Arsène Shoots And Misses The Target In TV Spat & More

Had the internet been around in my father’s day, this morning would have been a match preview. A simple enough affair, one that would have appeared every Saturday and in midweek, which in Arsenal’s case was always a Tuesday for home games. Times have changed and that straightforward pattern, sometimes for the good, others when the world is apparently against you all.

The rest of the time, well, he probably would have been little different from you or I now; a mix of tattle and gossip with interesting stories coming through every now and then. Certainly the manager’s media duties mean everything is seemingly more accessible, the club’s profile raised higher helps. One thing that has been interesting in researching Arsenal On This Day – this morning’s post is a 5-4 win over Manchester City in 1961 – is that transfer speculation has always been around, albeit to a lesser degree than the saturation of today. Which is where Wenger started, refuting rumours of trying to sign Salomon Kalou, whilst observing that Andrey Arshavin‘s inconsistency is not decaying his Arsenal career – he is indeed, efficient – and that the only place Marouane Chamakh is going this January is the African Cup of Nations. The manager indicated that Arshavin might be offered a new contract and that the Moroccan is indeed returning. Nobody has reportedly quipped that it is only to clear out his locker.

Having good-humouredly answered those points, he apparently became prickly on the subject of Tottenham pointing out that this was Arsenal Football Club. It was something quite easily spotted, for example Arsène was sitting behind a desk answering questions and talking to the media. Unlike others who lean out of their Ranger Rover windows, telling the waiting media that “Samba’s a t’rfic player who’d rather come to a war-torn borough in Norf Lahndan than QPR but he’s at Blackburn and I don’t disrespect other teams by talking about the players on their books“, before heading off to Dorest mansions.

The media were the real targets, specifically those who broadcast matches live. Arsène railed against the fixture list a claiming that the process was subject to undue influence from one or more outside sources or even from rival clubs.

It would be – and is – easy to look at Wenger’s words and find little sympathy with the game as a whole. Ever since the early 90s when the big clubs looked through the round and square aerials, their ability to control the fixture list has been eroded. At the centre of this is the archaic notion that televising a fixture at 3pm on Saturday will cause a drop in the actual attendances across the whole of the league. There is no evidence to support the theory but like racism and homophobia, it is deeply entrenched, ingrained into the sport.

And I find it impossible to have any sympathy with Wenger. Arsenal can refuse to have the FA Cup tie against Aston Villa; it is within their power to defy the broadcaster ESPN and choose to have the match played on Saturday or Sunday. Except they the Arsenal board lack the courage to stand up to television even though there are sound sporting reasons to do so. Instead, starting with Aston Villa, there are three games in six days. That is lunacy, even with the squad system and unnecessary considering the other free midweek dates in the rest of the season.

And all this for a measly £125k appearance fee. That is a drop in the ocean in the grand scheme of things. Whilst the club may argue that there are commerical and marketing reasons beyond the fee, ultimately they should not lose sight of the fact that this is a troubled season for the squad. The poor start has led to a significant margin being opened not just to the top but to even third place. Neither is yet insurmountable but in order to give themselves the best chance to recapture lost ground, surely someone in authority at the club looked at the unnecessary pressure that would be applied to the players? Arguments such as fielding a weakened team do not wash in this instance; Wenger will field a side to win the games knowing that Villa will view the FA Cup as a winnable trophy whilst Bolton and Blackburn will not take any risks with their Premier League survival at stake.

Wenger suggested that the list might be open to abuse. Well, that is the price of success. Or failure. The prime slots in the television schedule will go to the successful teams. Manchester United do not play on Monday nights because Sky know that the prime audience for them is Saturday or Sunday. Alex Ferguson’s silverware haul has arrived at the same time as Sky’s investment in the game. The broadcaster could not have chosen a better team to dominate the English game. Wenger threatened that dominance until the current trophyless run began in 2006. This era’s Leeds United to United’s Liverpool, if you like; the odd smattering of trophies which is successful by any other club’s standards except those of the club winning more.

Is that undue influence over the broadcaster or simply market forces at work? Wenger’s complaint is valid about the lunacy of the fixtures but looking a little closer to home provides him with the real culprits.

’til Tomorrow.

Posted on January 14, 2012, in Arsenal, FA Cup, Football, Premier League, Soccer and tagged , , , , . Bookmark the permalink. 172 Comments.

  1. The arsenal are not rebels.arsenal is a conservative club loath to upset anybody

  2. Imagine …me 1st

  3. Blimey YW, we say Arsene, others call him Wenger.

  4. or 2nd (sigh)

  5. melcfromfinsburypark

    Couldn’t agree more with you Yogi. A manager being outspoken about such a topic is surely a no win situation. Yes, football has sold its soul, but everyone knows that already and has known it for years. If the Clubs want to do something about the TV schedules, then they should argue their point(s) collectively and, at least to begin with, privately, with the Premier League. Speaking out as Arsene has it just asking for ridicule.

  6. steww

    I flit between the two, depending how annoyed I am with him!

  7. I’d be more than prickly if I was AW, Yogi.

    I concur with witholding sympathy per fixture issues because we should be more than ready for the grenades & land mines waiting to rupture our season as usual.

    “Counter their moves Arsene”..
    Yes some of us believe in AA, lean on faith for Marouane but it wouldn’t hurt to go get some of that Geriatrix magic potion for those that are not scoring goals..
    Hypnotize them, triple-psyche them

    We just have to go for the jugular
    Swansea tomorrow
    Man U…

    Win all these games & they can do whatever the f**k they want with the fixtures.

  8. I am anxious about the Swansea game tomorror. They are no mugs and very dangerous at home. We need the points but I am under no illusions about the size of the challenge.

    I’m hoping that TH12 (the footballer formerly known as TH14) comes on for all of the second half: fitness improvements permitting. I think a lot will come down to how our midfield perform and how clinical we are in front of goal.

  9. My limited prediction for tomorrow ( partly based on my views of what needs to happen for us to win and on my view of our recent fixtures) is that Song gets MOTM.


  10. Why was wenger bitchin about tv? Complete bollocks really and deflectin from the real issues of him still doin nothin to address the lack of depth in the squad.
    Yogi, its wenger atm.

  11. If we win tomorrow itll b back to Arséne again.

  12. Oh i do hope Luke saw Wenger press conference, particularly the bit about us not being interested in Kalou. Because id hate for him to waste his time moanin about wenger signing him, oh too late.

  13. Aman

    It’s crap. Arsenal had no obligation to allow the FA Cup tie to be televised. They chose to allow ESPN to do so, making Wenger’s whole complaint invalid.

  14. I think that the team that won the first Premier League title would always have the potentail to go on to dominate. The new financail advantages were always going to be a big gap. I think had Arsenal won the first premier league title we would have had a better time. However, lets take nothing away from Fergie or Man U, remarkeable consitency

  15. All of the top clubs face this problem, so we are no different to them in this respect. More fixtures simply means your squad has to be strong enough to cope with it.

  16. Smart move though, nobody looks inot arsenals transfare buisness or non existing transfare buisness now. Nobody even cares about arsenal. All that matters now is that some frenchy thinks he knows better! And that’s jus simply rude..

  17. So either he is close to buying someone and does not want publicity around it or he is buying no one and diverts attention from that.

    Or he is mad.. I think one of the two first though…

  18. Hope we don’t have a repeat of the second half at craven cottage where all our players were tired due to fixture congestion when we play Villa or Man Utd.

  19. As far as depth, it seemed that most of the teams that have played in the most competitions had a harder time than expected over the Christmas/New year period. City have all the depth in the world and struggled same way.

    Arsene makes a valid point, and if our team had no depth we would not be where we are in the PL.

  20. Wenger’s complaint is valid about the lunacy of the fixtures but looking a little closer to home provides him with the real culprits.

    that can be applied to most of the obstacles weve had to face recently..

    good post..

    and i agree with dex again..

  21. It’s about money, no?

  22. I disagree with dex by the way. Not even sure why this discussion even had to go there.

  23. Actually I don’t agree with Dexter here.

    I am as much in favour of additions to the squad as anyone but the point has been very well made by some, FG in particular, that the right player has to be available.

    Perhaps he isn’t.

    Wenger might be stubborn but Arsene isn’t stupid.

  24. PaulN

    Your job is to disagree with me man and mine is to throw occasional spanners in the works, but hopefully a bit good humoured sometimes too!

    Im havin a bit of a moan this week, its been mainly saved up from the last transfer window i mean, theres no point moanin about sigbings, or the lack there of when the windows shut.

  25. Wenger might be stubborn but Arsene isn’t stupid.


  26. The right player Cbob? You really believe that? Wow. I used to, not any more, not since we signed the likes of Silvestre. That killed that particular PRSpin for me. I just think its a combination of ineptitude, lack of ambition and good olparsimonand btw, I love fungunner and her insight, but disagree on this one. We didnt sign a defebder last jan and we were stretched,. We ve needed a striker since the summer so we sign a cheap dude who doesnt even get game time, false economy if you ask me and yes i am borin myself here so fuck knows what it must be like for eveyone else!

    I promise to move on when we win tomorrow.

  27. Baafuor from Arsenal

    The people running Arsenal Football club do not make decisions based on footballing grounds!Its all about the MONEY,MONEY and MONEY!They are just greedy!

  28. Very good Cbob – doing that gosh darn wisdom thang again.

  29. heres the thing..

    in the summer we brought in about 7 players in the space of the last two days..
    theres thousands of players we have zillion scouts and we have a bag full of money..

    when we hit the market we really know how to hit it…

    but sometimes..we choose not to..

    the right players always available..

  30. We have so far 10 cup games at home this season (5 in domestic caps and 5 in Europe). Correct me if I’m wrong, this number is unprecedented and promises good financial results. The money must be their if we want to spend.

    Interesting what Wenger is saying about Ramsey. Looks like long term he sees Song, jack and Ramsey as his first choice midfield. Jack and Ramsey will need to improve their creative and goal scoring sides for this combination to work. And Song has not signed a new contract yet.

    Tough game tomorrow. We were lucky to escape with 3 points at home against Swansey. If we drop points, the pressure before the ManU game will be immense. I hope for a committed professional performance with high tempo and good concentration from the start.

  31. The fact we go for player X (he’s really good btw) and dont sign him shouldnt be the end of the matter. You go for one player, miss out, then go for an alternative. We go for a player miss out, tell everyon we almost signed him and thats it, job done! 🙂 Its not even a new thing, when we were looking for a player to (try and) replace Vieira, Wenger tried to sign Baptista when he was at Sevilla, we missed out and signed…. absolutely fucking no one. The previous year we almost signed Carrick (for £2.7m) Vieira changed his mind at the last minute and we didnt bother to sign Carrick, I think thats when the Pardew/WEnger tiff started.

    BTW, I am aware its quite a tricky thing to pull off, with agreement needed by all 3 parties (Jagielka didnt want to leave the northwest apparantly, although again, we didnt come close to EVerton’s valuation, thats a recurring theme too), but this blanket response that well, you know, the right player might not be available and in january players might not want to leave and jeopardise their international place, etc and is only partly true.


    Those transfers last summer were planned months in advance and not at all a knee jerk reaction to our shite start to the season.

  32. SV

    I fully expect a win tomorrow. Swansea are not a surprise package any more, so we won’t go there with a blaise attitude expecting to win easily.

  33. mattgoonerknight

    Alex is going to QPR – not really relevant to any of the above but as I’m feeling starved from gooner transfer gossip…

    Let’s postulate that we will sign a forward – I really haven’t got a clue who it would/ could be. I realise that many an AW signing have been both obscure and on the whole relatively unknown and have more often than not turned out to be world beaters but I feel on this occasion the target surely does need to be in the proven rather than the enigmatic category.

    So we’ll probably sign noone or some teenage protégé from ligue 2 ; )


  34. You have a point Dex. No doubt, but the past doesn’t always inform the future.

    Caught up on the last couple of days posts.

    Jonny, good luck with your dad. I lost mine a few years ago at the age of 84, He used to go to Highbury with his dad in the ’30’s.

    Talk as much as you can to him would be my advice. I got as lot out of him in the last few years but know that I could, and should, have got more. Just to understand his life and experiences. He was in the Marines for 24 years and I don’t really know as much about that as I should.

    Pricelss stuff that just gets lost.

  35. Just seen that Mertesacker is ill and not 100% for the game. Shit that aint good.

  36. dex..
    i agree i didnt think they were all knee jerk but i dont think they were planned as much as what ppl think. arteta came in without a medical..
    but the point im making is..obviously these players had been watched for a long time…bfg was due to come in next year but we decided to bring it forward cos wenger finally decided we had a defensive weakness and we couldnt mess about anymore…but we actually went for it and it didnt take us that long to sign them once we decided to act..and it also shows that signing players when you need them works..cos it got us out of the shit didnt it..

    im 100% sure we have our eyes on lots of players this window,..

    but will we get one..

    i think we problems at all..but its only if the club chooses and at the minute it seems they are waiting but when you consider where we are in the league and all the problems weve had in the passed with players contracts and our poor second half to the season im not entirely sure why and i dont beleive for one minute its cos there aint players out there..

  37. CBob

    I am on a whingeathon at the moment man, I do realise that, but it stems from what has happened previously; transfer in AND outs, performances all combined. I just feel we are always a couple of players short, last season around this time it was in defence, this year its upfront!

    I would concur on your advice to Jonny as well. my Dad died when I was 6, so I’d cherish any time with your old man mate.

  38. JJ

    Thats a concern man, we would rather wait a year to get Mertesacker for free rather than get him in now. That would be a fine thing, if we had also signed a top defender, the fact that wasnt on the cards in scary shit man and a false economy; wait a year to get a player for free and hope for the best this year. Same applies to signing the likes of Squillaci and Park; spend £2-4m on them and then be surprised they arent good enough, while refusing to pay the going rate for decent players and then be surprised we struggle.

  39. Having tried to sign players on their own with some rather mixed results (Torres, Luiz, Ramires), Chelsea decided to go for players Wenger has been interested in (Mata, Cahil). Why bother with scouting? Who knows, it may actually work.

  40. @Dexter
    Hope you are right about Swansea. If we deliver a reasonable performance, we’ll get the result.

    I wonder how sharp RVP will play after a short break.

  41. MTK
    So we’ll probably sign noone or some teenage protégé from ligue 2 ; )

    theres a young man banging goals in for fun over in huddersfeild who i wouldnt mind us taking a punt on..

    i pointed him out before xmas and obviously everyone reads this blog and they all sent scouts to watch him recently 🙂 apparently there was 20 scouts and 8 of them were PL..


  42. Yeah, those scouts must lap up all your insights man! 🙂

    We’ve got a player from Oman on trial, so Jordan Rhodes wouldnt be too much of a stretch.

  43. Deep thanks Consols. It’s going to be a difficult year (or so) and I am conflicted about moving in with him (I don’t want to watch his deterioration), but I fully intend to follow your advice. He’s ex-RAF, formerly taught geography, took up medicine at 28, became the dean at Trinity College Dublin, and then the foremost expert in gastroenterology, wrote a book that was – at the time – considered the greatest manual on the small intestine and at the end of distinguished career he ended up losing most of his colleagues, as friends, for becoming a whistle-blower about malpractice in the NHS. He didn’t care. He’s since become the biggest authority on ‘best practice’ and is an advisor to governments around the world. He set out to make a difference to life around him and sacrificed a lot to achieve that. He was an absent father but I deeply admire him as a human and I am confident I would feel the same even if he wasn’t my dad. Which is about as good a compliment as I can give.

  44. dex im obviously in the wrong job

    im expecting arsene to be on the blower any time soon …

    whos the lad from oman?? is he our left back??

  45. mattgoonerknight


    Jordan Rhodes?

    I’m not sure that’s who we’d want mate – can you really imagine it?

    Well, he could be one for the future but this time, on this occasion, I say fuck the future:)

    Let’s play champ manager – I’d like to hear reasons against Demba Ba (pending a thorough medical of course) – funding could be recouped in the summer by cutting our losses with Vela and Bendtner…..

  46. mattgoonerknight

    Dexter, JJ

    Oman second division no less!

  47. Oman first division, they went up this season.

  48. I heard wenger has been up all night scowering the indian premier division for some exciting midfielders.

  49. Jonny,

    Your dad is one of those very few people who have had a richly valuable and fantastic life, and done something which has benefited many others.

    I am sure he knows you are rightly proud of him! 🙂
    Watching a parent’s health deteriorate is no fun, but it is part of life, and part of being a good and dutiful son to stick with it, however painful!

    Sadly the majority of us just tick along and do nothing of note, and won’t be missed by anyone but friends and immediate family.

  50. mattgoonerknight


    Sorry – my bad. Teach me for looking up stats on wiki!!

  51. The same old crap just seems to get regurgitated time and again.

    Let me see? Oh yes.

    — Arsene Wenger is a scrooge.
    — Arsenal are only interested in money.
    — Arsenal won’t spend, spend, spend.
    — Every blogger who believes the above, is also a much better judge of players than Wenger.
    — Every blogger who believes the above, is also privy to the confidential management information, discussions, decisions and vision of the Arsenal Board of Directors and is in a great position to disagree with everything they are doing.
    — Yadda, yadda, yadda, etc, etc!!

    That’s fine, just do not expect anyone with a modicum of cranial activity to agree with you.

  52. mattgoonerknight

    Someone’s got their knickers in a twist…

  53. We could have easily signed Scott Parker in the summer. We had a deal agreed for Mata then backed out because we didn’t wanted to reduce the fees we received for Fabregas and Na$ri (!!!!!) and we knew we needed a striker but Park was the best our fabled scouting team could come up with.

    I’m not really convinced that we can get anyone worthwhile in January but we have to a) pray we make the top 4 and b) in the summer, get the right players (not cheap alternatives) and give them time to bed in so that the next season isn’t dead by October.

  54. I know there are thick ingrates in the world but to this day it staggers me that anyone can not SEE what Wenger has brought to this club. The fact that people exist who claim to be fans, let alone ‘supporters’ and think it is acceptable to use words that should be reserved for the despicable and valueless still staggers me. Le Grove’s comment section is a vile depository of filth and the fact that they do nothing to moderate it is a tacit endorsement by it’s absence.
    Thankfully there is an ACLF antidote for those with a modicum of cranial activity.

  55. We play a special brand of football and that requires a special brand of footballer.

    Many have tried to copy AW’s brand and few have succeeded.

    Even fewer are qualified to judge which players are capable of playing the Arsenal way. Doubt too many of those will be reading this – or any – blog, to be honest.

    AW has consistently said we need the right players AT THE RIGHT PRICE; those players also have to want to come to us. And even AW will make mistakes (Francis Jeffers springs to mind). We all know English players ARE massively over-priced (I give you Andy Carroll as the benchmark). I doubt, by AW’s precise criteria, there ARE always players available.

    And having saddled AFC with the burden of repaying the investment in a new stadium, I’m pretty sure he feels doubly obligated to get things right. We are lucky beyond belief to have a guy in it for the long haul even if his reticence to gamble with the future of the club renders him unpopular with the media and certain elements of the fan base.

    Just listening to Paul Merson SLAUGHTERING Samir Nasri on Sky’s Soccer Saturday programme – the essence being that as the going has got tough for Citeh in recent weeks, Nasri has ‘disappeared’ in the same way he disappeared for AFC last season when things started going pear-shaped following the Birmingham cup game.

    Fair comment, I think, and no-one rushing to contradict him, Jeff.

  56. mattgoonerknight

    I’ve an idea for an interesting, informative and entertaining blog.

    Regrading any ongoing or future events, you are only allowed to passively speculate on what may happen; analysing the possible ramifications of Arsenal’s potential footballing and economic decisions without actually offering a personal opinion. It is strongly advised to wait until all club decisions are made and officially announced before conducting your objective analysis, as this minimises the possibility of forming an opinion that differs from the clubs actions.

    Please note – any criticism in any shape or form of Arsenal F.C or anybody associated with Arsenal F.C is strictly forbidden.

  57. I don’t think you’ll regret the time one little bit Jonny. When my Dad went, I missed him more than I thought I would. I still do.

    When he was ill, towards the end, I was planning to move him in with me but he went very quickly. I regret that.

  58. mattgoonerknight


  59. Flint McCullough

    So you are clearly happy that we keep getting mainly away games within 48 hours of the previous game. When it happened against Fulham that was reasonable as they had also had a similar schedule. The worst recent case was Man City v Liverpool in the PL on a Tuesday night when City had played away on the Sunday & Liverpool on the previous Friday.

    Do you know for certain that clubs can unilaterally turn down a tv game & what might Villa have to say about it?

    Simplistic Peytonesque club & AW rubbishing twaddle, not worthy of you YW.

    This really is not a new issue so I am surprised it has not been brought up before.

  60. Matt,

    Try thinking outside the box. It really does not hurt. 🙂

    Everyone has the right to posit an opinion about the team, its style of play, which players are full of skill, guts and bring value to the team — and which do not.

    Everyone has the right to express an opinion disagreeing with the manager regarding his team selection or his team format etc.

    No one, to my knowledge, has tried to gainsay that bloggers can and should have differing opinions and the right to express those opinions, it is a free society and makes blogging enjoyable.

    But that is what they are —- opinions — and have no more gravitas than that!

    What this blogger objects to is the unwarranted and fundamentally crass observations, which I am not going to repeat, that brook no arguments in denigrating our brilliant manager and doing so in that insufferably priggish manner that implies that ‘Joe Bloggs’ knows better than Monsieur Wenger.

    THAT attitude is unacceptable to any supporter worth his salt!

  61. Yogi:

    Great post. Money and tv schedules run all major professional sports today, not just football. Nothing we or any club can do other then bend over, drop our knickers and take it like the men we are. I have no idea how much control we actually over the schedule but we should use whatever control we do have to give ourselves the best possible chance of success. If we didn’t do that then shame on us.

  62. I 100% disagree with you Yogi where is the evidence for your claim? I have never once heard that it’s up to the clubs to decide and I would be interested to know which clubs have refused to have their game moved for TV. Man c, who could afford to turn down the money have had to play key games with very little recovery time in between. Even Alex Ferguson has complained about TV scheduling so your support of man u’s fixture scheduling is extraordinary. There is a contract, with the TV companies and it should be up to the PL to ensure that there is a fair balance in the scheduling of fixtures. It happens in other leagues where they will ensure that teams playing in the CL midweek get an early weekend fixture to maximise recovery time. I don’t see what is wrong with expecting some thought and consideration to be given to these issues.

  63. Blimey. Poor old Yogi getting it in the neck from a pair of ACLF heavyweights.

    With no actual knowlege of the facts, my memory is that Yogi is right. Arsenal could have turned down the TV coverage.

    Of course, I could be wrong too.

  64. Bill,

    I do not pretend to know all the contractual niceties of the Premier League contract with the TV companies.

    However, it is usual practice when a body, such as the Premier League, representing all the clubs at such contractual discussions, have the authority of all the clubs ceded to that body, and as AW implies, individual clubs cannot then specifically object to individual administration decisions made by the third party (the TV companies).

    What AW seems to be objecting to is the ability of the more influential clubs to ‘lean’ on the TV companies directly, (see Ferguson’s rants) and by so doing obtain better deals for their clubs, at the expense of the others (Arsenal).

  65. Dex, how long are going to complain about the same thing? We are at the half way line and moving forward.

  66. If Arsenal turn down the TV showing, does the team lose money?

    Has anyone ever turned it down?

    The onus is (or should be ) on the FA to do what is right and fair for all the teams? Common sense should prevail.

  67. Dex:

    This summer was a mess and it has cost us dearly this season. Look at the archives of this blog, arseblog and all the other reasonable blogs as far back as last April or may and all were saying the same thing. We need to make definitive decisions and get the players we need early in the summer to be sure we are ready for season and help restore confidence after last seasons meltdown. A poor start was easily predictable prospectively if we maintained business as usual.

    Postulating that a series of unfortunate events and circumstances beyond our control prevented our brain trust in London colney from doing what needed to be done is way to much to believe. They are much to talented and intelligent to not be able to roll with the punches. As Darius often points out our usual MO is to get one first team player relatively early in the window and then troll around for bargains at the very end. That’s been our strategy for years and that’s what happened. We seem to be driven by our standard operating proceedure. We were never going to get jones and the offers we made for jagielka and Cahill had no chance of being successful, but we could play around with lowball offers all we wanted because we had the less expensive alternative of mert any time we wanted. Everyone knewcwe needed a LB and why we waited to get santos is the biggest mystery. We have watched Traore for several years and if we did not know that he was not going to make the cut before August then our scouts have a real problem

    Enough of ranting, RVP and TH12 to score tomorrow for a relatively comfortable win against a tough opponent. Hope mert gets well soon.

  68. Yes great idea ,turn down the request and antagonise the media.
    Good plan ,that just what we need.
    Arsene is right.He usually is.So is Yogi as it goes.But not today.
    We have lost some good posters here in the last year or so and sadly missed they are .But some of the new guys and galls are filling the gap well.Red Arse for example.

  69. Red arse:

    Here in the us the tv networks drive everything. The most desirable games in terms of ratings get the most valuable tv slots and my understanding is that the clubs have to go along. ManU is the biggest ratings draw so I would expect their games to get the time slots that potentially have the biggest ratings irregardless of how that affects their fixture list. I dont know if he really can but if Fergie actually has the power to change his games out of the prime tv slots just to make his fixture list easier and no one else can, then we should complain. It should be Ivan and our front office staff complaining to the FA and then leaking it to the world if they don’t get satisfaction. If we really do have the power to improve our fixture list and we just don’t have the cajones to put up a fight (which is what I thought yogi implied) then shame on us.

  70. red arse is an idiot..
    ive blogged with him ages i never rated his comments..

    good to see you again RA.. 😉

    george..i think the point is that this club doesnt need the money that this game will generate live on espn or whatever..
    it wont even touch the sides..not even diabys wages for a month..

    on the other hand we are at a critical stage of our transition this 3 games in 6 days really going to help?? of course its not its daft bearing in mind it could potentially cost us 50mil next year..

    150k…50mil…no contest..

    we can ease our fixture schedule and make it as easy for ourselves as possible if we tell them to shove the deal for this game up their arse..its not worth the risk..its not like we are cancelling the fixture and throwing ourselves out of the cup its just saying no thanks we dont want to be on tv for this one we’ll play our game when weve had more than 30mins rest after the last one and you can keep the 50p your paying us to fuck ourselves up in doing it

    but as usual its just another example of us doing things the right way in the best interests of the club isnt it?? take the hits on the pitch in order to grab any cash we can when we can but long term??? its just asking for trouble..

  71. give me a break man!

    Arsenal should play the blasted game, done.

    The issue at hand is not Arsenal but the FA doing things the wrong way.

  72. By the way georhe, Colour Sgt. Bourne, ” Because we’re here lad, because we’re here’.

    Did you know that the BBC recorded an interview with him in the 1930’s?

    Must have been fascinating.

    The BBC wiped it, ‘to save space’, in the 1960’s.

  73. I have to say I disagree with Yogi too. AW has every right to point out the flaws in the scheduling, much like every manager has done so at one point. Indeed Yogi and almost everyone on here has complained about this very fat too.

    George – Red Arse is hardly new but in fairness it is nice to see him back again after a long absence.

    Jonny – Great advice from C’Bob. Which I think you are in full agreement with. I am very close to my own Father and know almost everything there is worth knowing about his life. Some things I would rather not have known! 🙂 but I do realise I am one of the lucky ones, as he was always around. Treasure every moment mate and it will stand to you.

  74. Arsenal have been doing this for years and no one said a word. Now that Arsene says that the scheduling needs fixing, the team is not looking out for it’s best interest of the team by playing!?
    Do you know how many clubs would love to make it on TV? That is a privilege for both the players and supporter. You complain, but you cannot bite the hand that has fed you as far as generating more money, TV! That would be foolish!

  75. Paul -N : But it is not like TV is not making money out of the deal either, is it now? So which hand is feeding who? AW has every right to complain and should not feel he has to be quiet simply because it is a privilage to play on TV. No doubt it is but it is one that we have earned, not simply been given. As such we have every right to insist that we have ample time in between games for our players to recover from the previous game and be ready for the next.

  76. Read my comment again IG. I am for Arsene saying something but not down with the blame game going on here.

  77. Frimpong starts against the Tots. Come on boy!

  78. Lol. Van der vart just got Frimponged.

  79. mattgoonerknight

    Red Arse | January 14, 2012 at 12:27 pm

    Regarding the above earlier post – rather than me needing to think outside the box, maybe you were thinking outside of this blog, as I feel the rant was somewhat unwarranted if directed at people on here.

    Those who have posted “unwarranted and fundamentally crass observations…that brook no arguments in denigrating our brilliant manager” have done so simply by default – that it is your opinion that they are crass observations which denigrate Arsene – opinion again being the operative word in this dialectic.

    On today’s evidence, no one is calling AW a bad manager. Noone is calling for AWs head or suggesting he should spend millions the club do not have, putting us into debt in an attempt to overhaul a weak squad. Noone today has suggested that Arsenal F.C is only concerned with the bank balance – that the board are happy with upper mediocrity just so long as we turn a healthy profit each year.

    I have notice (myself obviously included) people asking for signings to strengthen the squad and questioning the reasons why we appear to be perennially, shall we say quirky, in the transfer market.

    Let me put this to you – and forget the in’s and out’s and hows – would you like to see / have already seen a Left back and a forward (Henry doesn’t count) come into the club in this transfer window.

    If you do (like me) and Arsene doesn’t (who knows), it’s ok, it doesn’t mean you think you know more than the great man himself.

    IAWT COYG!!!!!

  80. I see Liverpool are playing a 5-4-1 formation against Stoke at HOME. With Carrol on the bench. Now as far as statements of intent go, that surely must tell all ‘Pool fans what the rest of thir season will look like, no? King Kenny my arse! Lame Duck is more like it.

  81. One up to Wolves.

  82. Go Wolves!!!!! And would you believe the Chavs score when Torres shot smacks off the underside of the bar, then smacks off one of Fat Lampard’s double chins and then goes in?

  83. Rooney misses a penalty!!!! This day is starting out pretty good!!

  84. Its seem ESPN in India has bowed to the services of Steve MacMahon,,showing Liverpool’s game instead of Spurs or Chelsea..

  85. Can’t bear to watch the shitty football United play..really

  86. Nice to see 10 man Blackburn scoring right before halftime. Same cannot be said seeing Scholes doing the same for Utd. Now if only Wolves can hang on, although in fairness from what whta the Beeb say they should be at least 2-0 up.

  87. Damn..united lead but spurs trail…St Totts predictions anyone 😀 ???

  88. Hi, JonJon, 🙂

    I am indeed an idiot! 🙂 Damn, I was trying to keep that quiet.

    Matt, OK, I hear you.

    The smiley face at the end of my ‘outside the box’ comment was a clue that I meant it to be light hearted.

    I was, in fact, making a general comment earlier, not specific to ACLF (which I enjoy) and not referring to you in particular.
    I must have struck a nerve with you tho, to have caused your rather facetious response @1:05 p.m. Still, if the cap fits ………………..

    That aside, the generality of my comment is inarguable correct and I do not retract a word of it.

    I note that prior to your latest comment, @ 3:17, you prefaced your diatribe with the famous “IF” word — “if directed at people on here”.
    My reply, in the second para, above, has made abundantly clear the answer to that.

    It would have been common courtesy, before getting all hissy over a perceived slight, to have asked me first, that would have saved a lot of unnecessary recriminations.

    I am perfectly happy to put this exchange down to ‘a misunderstanding’ and start afresh, but if that is not your wish – so be it!

    Personally, I would prefer to be friends! 🙂

  89. Adebayor had a goal, knocked off. Looked like the shot was going in, but then the twat, Adebayor turned it in from what looked like an off side position. He might have been on.
    Wolves scored from a corner that should have been a goal kick.

  90. Hi Irish, 🙂

    I rather like “Lame Duck Kenny” instead of the idiotic “King Kenny”!!

    Altho, I think you had a typo with the first letter of the second word. I am sure you meant ‘F’ and not ‘D’? 🙂

  91. Oh, my word. Frimpong volleys one straight at the keeper. That would have made my day.

  92. Bollocks, spuds back in it.

  93. Hi Bill, 🙂

    The Networks pay big bucks and do call the shots. I suspect in the context of the Premier League that was what AW meant by selling our ‘footie’ soul.

    I do not think for one minute that any club can formally influence the TV guys to arrange their schedules to suit themselves, but both Sir Purple Nose, and now the Shitty manager Mankini have publicly screamed at how unfair the schedules are to them. aaahh didums!

    Rather than fall out with the richest club in the world, and the most widely supported club in the world, the suspicion is that Sky and ESPN will cave. (I thought that was what Yogi meant too).

    As Elvis sang == “suspicions haunting my mind”. 😳

  94. Frimpong gets a standing ovation from Wolves away support as he leaves the game.

  95. I hate the way manutd play. But they win anyways!

  96. The ref is fecking shite. But wolves are holding out despite.

  97. Was Daglish buying Carroll a risk, a gamble or a stupid bet?

  98. Red arse

    In the us scheduling is controlled by the tv networks. They pay the big bucks. All of sports has sold its soul. I was very surprised when yogi said we actually have some control. If we do have some control then we should take advantage but if we don’t have any control then we do the best with the hand we are dealt. The schedule is insane sometimes and I understand why anyone would complain.

  99. Well done to Blackburn, and thank you to Wolves and Frimpong for a gutsy performance. And a big Fuck You You Twat to the worlds greatest striker NB52 for playing like crap and missing right at the end as usual against the Chavs.

    Right I am off for the day and will be spending it with The Girlfriend, not quite sure how that worked out but it did, so I shall make the best of it. It also means I get to watch the game tomorrow uninterrupted 😀 Hope you all have a great weekend and that we get the 3 points tomorrow in a thriller of a game.

  100. Well done wolves..Chelsea just about sneaked it, but definitely will drop points away from home, actually all 4 teams had good, relatively easy on paper home fixtures this weekend, and 2 draws is a very good result for us..

  101. PaulN

    Have you not twigged? Ive been moaning since January 1st. (Thats a clue BTW)

    Come on man, think outside the box.

  102. Well well, as soon as the spuds start chatting about the league they choke. More of that please.

    Nice one Frimpong.

  103. Wenger is bang on about the fixtures being cooked up by the TV companies. How many times do we get a “Super Sunday” of 2 massive derbies conveniently scheduled to occur the same week? Just lopk at the fixtures next weekend; spuds play city and we play United. Stinks and has done ever since we had to play Leeds back in 99 a day before manu and they were the penultimate games of the season and we lost the title by a point.

  104. George

    Who is it that you miss who doesnt post here anymore? Is it JD by any chance?

  105. “Saad is fast and strong and he likes to train hard and learn. Hopefully he will do well. I told him Arsenal are a top team and not many get this kind of chance. I wish him all the luck and said, ‘do your best, show what you can do and the rest is with Allah’. He’s a young talent and this is a great chance for him.”

    Ali Al Habsi on our LB trialist

  106. mattgoonerknight

    Red Arse,

    I noted the smiley but didn’t think it equated with the preceding statement, which I read it as rather condescending – hey ho : )

    Ok, so it was a general statement – perhaps you should either state it’s generality or direct your diatribe to those concerned accordingly. Seems a bit odd to not state that you are referring to the contributions of those on other blogs when posting a rant which could be easily misinterpreted as a response to posters above.

    You’re right though, it did touch a nerve as the lambasting of those who have anything other than, as jonny referred to it a couple of days ago, the “ultra-left” view , is a recurring theme on ACLF – one which I relish challenging!

    If you’ve taken offence to being questioned and feel that I have been unnecessarily hostile, then I apologise.

    Friends is good with me although I’ve a feeling we’ll have to agree to disagree : )

    Good day on the results front hey!!!!!

  107. Frank,Muppet, limps,ole.Maria,Northbank69.To name but a few Dexter.
    Frank most of all.He was made of the right stuff.No splinters in his backside.

    And Darius has disappeared from the face of the earth.People keep telling me not to worry.But I do.Really.

  108. Congratulations to spurs. 1st team to concede 1000 goals in the PL

  109. Ha! Nice one dups!

  110. George

    Maria and LimparAssist still post. Darius has disapeared you’re right man while Northbank69 is around, just about, although he wasnt all there to begin with 🙂

    I’m sure frank posted the other day, Muppet doesnt bother though, which is a shame.

  111. Dexter,not with any regularity they dont

  112. Don’t see much of Gunner4Ever either.

  113. Spurs and Liverpool drop points today. Hopefully we can hold serve tomorrow.

  114. George

    LA does man. People move on though, you have to learn to accept that.

  115. I miss alexicecream.

  116. But what if someday you and JJ “move on”?
    What will I do then?
    No, I could not cope with the loss.

  117. Dexter

    I bet you miss AIC as much as I miss Peter Storey’s Budgie.

  118. Why the switch from ‘Arsene’ to ‘Wenger.’ Please don’t follow Myles Palmer down THAT route!

  119. Tim.That’s a low blow mate

  120. ‘Wenger’ for Doomers
    ‘Arsene’ for Sycophants

  121. George @ 6:23

    Been a tough year for the club. End of last season and the summer and this season have been rugged.. I think most will be back at some point when things get better. Transfer windows always the most frustrating time

  122. Tharts Mr Wenger to you, you doomer!

    Tim; that is a fucking well low blow man. Can’t see Yogi going that route, the scrapin the bottom of the barrell route.

  123. Madrid losing at half time, again. Mallorca 1 – 0 Madrid

  124. Happy to see those around us drop points. Chelsea should’ve lost were it not for B52 and that horiible Gardner. What a shit player he is. Dirty and shit is no way to go through a career. B52, is also shit and apparently a vandal now. Fuck him.

    The boys need to stay among the third or fourth spot until we get our injured players back. Because once they come back the team will be a whole lot better.

    I don’t know when it’s going to happen but the Spuds will do a Spuds. Today they didn’t get the rub of the green and drew. All of their games up to now have been incredibly close. They’re going to get found out sooner rather than later. I hope.

  125. Bill, our summer buys weren’t a disaster. How can you say they’re a disaster when all of them took to team in less than a month? Some of them only took two games to get up to speed. How you can doubt Wenger and his transfer dealings is beyond me. You’re a gentle doomer.

  126. Bendtner (alias the best striker in the world) missed an easy chance at the end of the game, the knob.

  127. G69

    You know what I mean. The players we bought are excellent, it was what happened before they came on board that was so problematic.

  128. Bill,It was only problematic because we had and have no clue as to how things went.None,not a scooby.
    (Even Dexter and JJ hardly knew much)

  129. Oh I know George, I know everything.

  130. Look, cant we all just move on from what happened last year!?!? 🙂 God some of you lot really need to move on.

  131. I tell you, you can plot my posts alongside whether I have a hangover, or whether I am getting ready to go out and have taken some mood altering substances. This moaning I was morning, now I am as happy as the proverbial pig in shite. Strange that.

  132. Follows on from Big Al’s piece yesterday. Which BTW was a real departure from the usual football related stuff. Great read, didnt get a chance to post yesterday, so belated thanks dude.

  133. Seeya Dups, George, Gains, Bill et Big al…

    Off to get my groove on.


  134. What happened, Bill? Gervinho and Alex Song were both suspended and we lost a few games.

  135. “Gervinho and Alex Song were both suspended and we lost a few games.”

    Exactly, Gains. I was just thinking while watching Loserpool game today, what could have been if we had those two!

    Two points dropped by the Spuds, it’s our chance to close in. COYG!

  136. Irish / Paul / George

    AW is complaining but the ‘scheduling’ was within Arsenal’s control. Quite simply, they could have declined the live appearance and the match would have been on the Saturday / Sunday. When the choice was theirs to make, complaining about it is just making a fool of yourself.

  137. George

    You should be thrilled about what Wenger had to say on Arshavin. Hope he starts getting games under his belt and turns up with goals and assists.

    Come on Arsh!

  138. Passenal @1.28pm & Flint earlier

    It is within Arsenal’s remit for the FA Cup contract, not within the PL contract. In that one clubs cannot decline the Sky deal.

  139. YW

    Very well written post as usual. And we can’t have two things at the same time. We had to man up and control the fixture or just put our heads down and play those games as they come.

    Just hoping our injury situation doesn’t worsen during that period. We really need to kick on this season and really can’t afford the implosion of recent years. Squad rotation and Fatigue management is key.

  140. How good do you think Gary Cahill would be at Chelsea?

  141. Dexter-

    What was that Simpsons video for? 😀

  142. Jonny

    What do you think about India’s chances to salvage the 3rd test at Perth? Is the Oz pace attack too good?

    And India has to really stop hiding behind the veil of fatigue. It is an absolute disgrace that they skipped net practice for a day of hunting before this test. Where is the regret for losing 2 tests?

  143. As far as I can see – and it is only a cursory glance – the club has never been required to play two games in 48 hours because of TV.

  144. Sriram,

    The whitewash is most likely, India are not performing at all well.

  145. JJ-
    “i think we problems at all..but its only if the club chooses and at the minute it seems they are waiting but when you consider where we are in the league and all the problems weve had in the passed with players contracts and our poor second half to the season im not entirely sure why and i dont beleive for one minute its cos there aint players out there..”

    I am sure it can be done too, I think Arsene is waiting to look at how the players who are out return from their respective injuries. We might have a busy last week again to fill in our requirements. Since, the PL is out of hand and we are taking 4th place as a trophy by itself. We could actually go for the FA Cup, that is a very realistic challenge and one that we are capable of achieving. CL is a very different equation and I wouldn’t try guessing what will happen against Milan.

  146. I too worry about Darius… hope all is well and he has actually gone gone to visit a really hinder part with no internet access for the last few weeks… Looking forward to seeing him on back to celebrate when we win things at the end of the season.

    Note that we will win things!

  147. YW

    Yes, shocking to see the way we have performed. It really shows how we got to No.1 spot in Test cricket before the England series. Apparently we had 26 tests played in the subcontinent.

  148. Team Spirit

    Thats the spirit!

  149. Yogi, you assumed that Arsene was talking specifically about the FA cup game but, that is not how I read it. In regards to the PL, he has a valid point.

  150. Yogi,I take it you read my post so I will not repeat myself.
    Other than to say he may just have used this moment to make his point.Which is a good and valid one.
    He does not look stupid to me ,ever.

  151. Passenal,

    Reading through the article, Wenger was pointing out more about the fixtures in the Premier league and the lack of control of the clubs on them.

    I think YW’s point revolved around the club’s power to postpone the FA cup match to the weekend and releasing the congestion in our fixtures, rather than complaining about them.

    I am assuming, the PL game would be postponed to a free midweek.

  152. YW,

    Earlier during our CC match against Bolton, there was no telecast and we were talking about ways in which the club can televise through their network and tap it as a source of revenue. Do you think there is a reason, the club did not try to postpone the FA cup game for loss of live telecast? Is there a revenue stream in there that the club don’t want to lose?

  153. Blimey! Bill (and others) has no objection to the tv companies running the football schedules and taking care of their most favored. The corporations know best. What a surprise!

  154. Hello shotta.
    you went MIA?

  155. Ok guys,

    I’m off now. Good night!

    We are organising a small football tournament in our locality as a tribute to our Indian footballing legend Baichung Bhutia. Hoping to have a great game of football and a great result for us against the Swans.

    Let’s kick start the second half of our season tomoro! COYG!

  156. Pass

    He specifically pointed to the three upcoming games – my point is that he is wrong to point fingers at the TV companies when the club has sat twiddling it’s thumbs when they could have forced the match to take place 24-48 hours earlier. And to be honest, complaining about outside influences struck me as an strange outburst, as if there is some cabal pointedly against Arsenal. It’s just madness.

    Oh and those who moaned earlier about surname / first name – I’ve been doing it for years!

  157. George

    I never said he looked / was stupid. I said I have no sympathy with his arguments. Now if he’d gone off on one about loan players…

  158. Sririam – They get £125k for the match. Can’t see that is a major loss, especially since there will be a consequent loss of other revenue due to the game being on a Monday night rather than Saturday afternoon.

  159. @ Bill at 7:46 pm

    I must be an optimist – I usually enjoy the transfer window, it reminds me of the excitement children have imagining what they might get for Christmas. I try to focus on that, rather than what has happened too often of late: not ending up with what/who we wanted! Very happy with 3Gs, the Ox, Arteta, and Mertesacker; pretty happy with Benayoun (probably we should use him more). Let’s hope Park proves to be the album you come to love once you’ve played it a few times, rather than the dodgy socks your Aunt gives you that you never wear. 😉

    @Sriram at 9:03 pm

    Dexter’s tumbleweed video? Maybe a subtle reference to how few posts there were/are…

    Jonny, I hope it goes as well as it can with your father. That’s an interesting history. Mrs Boots’ father probably knew your father (fellow esteemed gastroenterologist). As others have said, you’re doing a good thing, and I don’t think you will regret it.

    I’m quite optimistic about tomorrow. Not sure why, as Swansea looked very good at the Emirates, and I don’t think they have conceded many at home (maybe not more than one in any game? too lazy to check). Let’s hope it’s the next step on our path towards overtaking our London nemeses.

  160. Dups – You cheeky little batard!! 😀 That had me laughing so hard I almost pissed my pants!!! It has been years since I have seen this particular beauty, the man was a genius it must be said. One of the funniest ever, if not the funniest. I remember he called Prince Charles a “little grovelling bastard” live on TV in the 90’s, it caused massive uproar obviously. He then faxed him wondering if a knighthood was now out of the question? it wasn’t as he was given one several years later, albeit an honorary one due to his Irish citizenship. The guys from Monty Python say he was the funniest man ever and indeed he laid the groundwork for their own fame. Legend!!

  161. @duppofkuff
    Funniest. Video. Tnx. Two of my favorite comedians. Are Johnathan winters. &. Diana. Carvy.
    So now it’s the. Oman league we are shopping. At. :|.
    Well ,if. Saad is as good as al habsee then all right. Next. Year the Iranian. League. don’t. Laugh. I here. There. Are someo nice players down there. long live the revolution. :-/

  162. Wow Jonny your father sounds like he lived a complete life: well almost. He made great achievements and made his mark on the professions he chose and on his world. With high achievers like that most times their family-life suffers. They simply could not find enough time to be good parents or spouses. But whatever you feel for him you must forgive him and let him know that you do not harbor any ill-feelings towards him. Let him go in peace. You will be free and will be happy you did when he is gone..

  163. Dups @11:15pm,

    Too true. Smith owes Abou, gooners and football an unpayable debt. Regarding the former, this fact seems to be overlooked all too often!

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