Nasri’s Anti-Social Media, Theo Says Don’t Go & More

The dangers of Social Media for footballers was starkly highlighted last night. As Oliver Holt, Chief Sports Writer at The Daily Mirror, betrayed a private message from Rio Ferdinand, Samir Nasri was on the receiving end of abuse from private individuals. Following Wayne Rooney’s suit, Nasri fought fire with fire,

@immildlyracist listen come in front of me tell me what u tweet i will show who is th c***

The immediacy of Twitter is such that one pathetic Tweet backtracking elicited this response,

I just want tell you dont listen the newspaper and the rumours i will let you know if something happen

It encapsulates the problem and advantage of Twitter. 140 characters to undo several days journalistic work, an update straight from the horse’s mouth.

The normal relationship is one of sycophancy, “Jack, please RT…” or “Yes, please, show us another photo of Rosicky sleeping or your Nando’s lunch“. The distance between players and supporters is such that these zany antics supposedly bring them closer to us. It is a world away from sharing the same pub or streets of yesteryear.

What do players get out of it? Adulation? Maybe they genuinely enjoy it or judging by what has gone before, it massages their egos with the one that has the most followers the dressing room’s Chief Twit. Whatever the case, they have the right to use the medium without abuse.

Theo Walcott stepped into the debate observing,

I can understand why some players might be frustrated and thinking of leaving. They want to win things and we haven’t done that for six years.

Indeed, last season…no, let it go. Walcott is looking forward to meeting new teammates. Not if they are taking his place in the team, he won’t.

It is interesting that Walcott believes Arsenal have a small squad. Premsuably he is not referring to physique but the 25-man squad system, every club having the same number of players a nuance apparently lost on Theo. Expecting high calibre signings to bolster the team is not unique to supporters. Even youth alone cannot explain the apparent excitement in Theo’s words regarding Benzema, “Me, in the same team as him? You’re kidding“.

Hot Transfer News Ticker…Theo Walcott wants move back to South Coast…Photo shows him in a Bournemouth top….Hot Transfer News Ticker

This morning’s transfer gossip brings Arsenal closer to Willian. The Brazilian, the product of a misspelt youth, will cost £9m, The Sun solving Wenger’s problem with the fee of £13m by throwing in Denilson, valued at £4m.

Radio stations tried to get in first with the big news. In France, Gervinho is reportedly on his way to Arsenal, negotiations delayed with Arsène’s TF1 contractual obligations for analysis of the national side. The radio station’s dubious reputation tempers the story’s veracity.

As Cesc heads to his family for a break, if he did not know what was awaiting him, he does now. The ever-reliable Spanish media report that Arsène has agreed with Cesc that he can leave. Of course with Barcelona being very poor and Arsenal a registered charity, the fee will be considerably lower than any offer from Manchester City, Real Madrid or Chelsea.

If Alexis Sanchez signs for Manchester United instead of Barcelona, £30m is freed up to add to the €30m that the Catalans seem to want to pay Arsenal.

There is a snag. Apparently all of this is starting on Friday with a meeting between Cesc’s Agent Darren Dein – doing a fantastic job of endearing his father to Arsenal – and Barcelona so that they can work out the next step. Contacting Arsenal is a good starting point so I’ll be submitting my invoice should you follow that advice.

Elsewhere, Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain is going to cost more than a pretty penny whilst Madjid Bougherra has not even been linked to the club this summer but that isn’t going stop Rangers from trying to change his mind about leaving them. Brighton want Henri Lansbury whilst Phil Jones and Scott Dann will be a new defensive partnership next season although no-one seems to know where but the smart money is apparently on Arsenal. Or Liverpool. Or Aston Villa. Or Manchester United.

’til Tomorrow.

Posted on June 8, 2011, in Arsenal, Football, Premier League, Premiership, Soccer, Transfer Gossip and tagged , , , , . Bookmark the permalink. 188 Comments.

  1. misspelt youth, hahaha

  2. I see that you have been writing about possible transfer targets since the season ended. I respect the hope you have but cannot you still see what this manager and board want? Their target is to play in the CL every year and “compete” for trophies, as Kroenke put it. But not win any. There is a possibility that Arsenal may not qualify for the CL this season which may persuade the board or owner to get rid of Wenger next year.

    As regards transfers, it seems that Arsenal and Spurs are linked with the same players every day! We know that Wenger is looking for bargains which he cannot find. Contrast this with Chelsea or United who are linked with just a few players and will sign two or three of them. They want to win, they know only great players will win.

    Wenger will not buy any players this season but will let go of some. He may buy two teenagers and then send them out. For the sake of their careers, one hopes that Fabregas and Nasri leave and win medals and trophies with the respective clubs they join.

  3. “Misspelt youth”. Luv it!

  4. I hate the Summer, no football news and shit weather (in Northern Ireland anyway)

  5. “I see that you have been writing about possible transfer targets since the season ended. I respect the hope you have but cannot you still see what this manager and board want?”

    Think you’re missing the witty undertones of Yogi’s writing here, sir.

    ” Madjid Bougherra has not even been linked to the club this summer but that isn’t going stop Rangers from trying to change his mind”!

    “Phil Jones and Scott Dann will be a new defensive partnership next season although no-one seems to know where but the smart money is apparently on Arsenal. Or Liverpool. Or Aston Villa. Or Manchester United.”!!

    He’s having a laugh at the mainstream media, no?

  6. Theo strikes me as a very naive guy, God bless his heart. I think he means well and tries to be honest in all his interviews but you can tell he’s not media savvy and a bit immature. I think the club needs to work with the players on how to deal with the media if they aren’t already. 🙂

    20m for Jordan Henderson? What is this world coming to, if he is going for 20 surely Cesc who is far more accomplished and technically better than Henderson should go for 60m.

  7. LimparAssist

    Just Willian?

    I like Jordan Henderson, I think he’ll be a good player – but that money is insane. What it does do is make you very glad of players like Bartley, Lansbury, Gibbs and Wilshere.

  8. Kubla Khan

    Pretty sure I have seen you on this comment section before no? Anyway, transfer speculation is seen for what it really is on this blog.. a load of trash! You can’t help but laugh at some of the stories the media prints.

    You can just imagine Wenger getting his son to run to the corner shop every morning to pick up a few papers and have a laugh.

  9. Now Willian I like! He has looked damn good every time I’ve seen him play. He gave Barcelona a bit of a scare in the first half of the CL game, but Donetsk’s lump of a striker (Luiz Adriano, I think) missed a bunch of chances. They got trouced after that, but created as many chances as anyone I’ve seen over the past couple of years at the Camp Nou. Jadson (what is it with their messed up names?!) is f*cking good as well, but more of a central playmaker.

  10. Im guessing Kubla Khan isnt the sharpest tool in the box.

    “Me, in the same team as him? You’re kidding“

    lol

  11. YW the thing is if we sign any of players you name.As soon as they put on an Arsenal shirt you will be getting fans on here saying how great they are.It happened last year with Squillaci Koscielny and Chamakh.Its funny how peoples opinion of players changes when they put on an Arsenal shirt.And when they leave ie Helb Adebayor Gallas and Cole they were shit all along

  12. Martin

    Even the most cynical of Arsenal fans know how good the likes of Gallas, Cole and Adebayor were for us, they just prefer to forget. I don’t think you can say Squillaci, Koscielny and Chamakh all warmed to Arsenal fans instantly. Many slated Wenger once again for bringing in unknown players. Chamakh being an exception.

    Koscielny I think was a very good buy, Squillaci was just another temporary option to provide cover at the back after losing Sol and Silvestre. Squillaci suffered the most due to the pace of the Premiership, by all accounts he has been a solid defender in other leagues. Next season I think they will both perform better, lets just hope we sort out our defensive play on set-pieces (and attacking), as it will prove crucial. We play teams off the park then let in a goal from a freekick.. it has really knocked the stuffin out of us in many games.

  13. Dear YW,

    I love your blog.

    I also appreciate the effort to keep things fresh by changing the layout and theme every now and then.

    If I could offer one comment, it would be to say that this font (size, typeface etc) is more difficult to read than previous ones you’ve used. It fits much less on a line and therefore doesn’t scan quite as well. The wide sidebar doesn’t help this.

    Keep up the great work.

    Kind regards.

  14. I am reminded today what a very long close season this is likely to be and that the transfer window is a meeja fuelled marathon that saps the will and strength of even the keenest fan.

    By way of some relief I am looking forward to the Euro U21s starting at the weekend to see what the next generation might wash up – my guess is that with transfer fees likely to be steep this window with FIFA Fair Play due a few of the shrewder managers will be focussed on Denmark.

  15. OK, here’s a long video of Jadson’s passing. Not suggesting we sign him, it’s just enjoyable to watch. Also, it appears that Willian and Jádson are common names in Brazil, so put that down to ignorance on my part (not for the first time).

  16. Martin

    Adebayor – people still think he is a good player. Just an arsehole about money.
    Ashley Cole – people still think he is a good player. Just an arsehole about money.
    Hleb – Foolish and misguided but a decent player.
    Gallas – Decent player, not as good as he thinks, definite attitude problems, definitely not captain material

    I don’t think anyone’s opinions about their abilities changed, simply changed their opinions of them as a person. Which is normal for football fans, disloyalty is not tolerated.

    I like your idea of honesty in supporters though. Squillaci – You’re shit, Koscielny – WTF did we sign you? Chamakh – Useless. Yep, that ought to motivate a player and make them feel wanted at Arsenal.

    YW

  17. Christ, this transfer window is dragging already. How on earth do “journalists” get paid for making up transfer “stories” by making spurrious connections between any old player and any old club. It’s laughable that this is published.
    I think Gervinho could be coming to Arsenal as he fulfills the 3 main Arsenal criteria:

    1. He is cheap
    2. He plays in the French league/or is French
    3. He is francophone

    Didn’t we used to spread out net a bit wider than league 1!

  18. The Gervinho rumour is bullshit.

  19. I just got through watching a youtube compilation of Willian, OOU. Wish I hadn’t! Started picturing him in our shirt about halfway through… Damn you, transfer rumours. Damn you, youtube.

  20. LA,

    I don’t think the Jordan Henderson rumoured transfer fee could be compared to anything Bartley, Lansbury or Gibbs might fetch. He’s a regular in a Premier League team and they’re not, that fact alone makes him worth more than any of them, even if it is “only” Sunderland. Wilshere of course is on another level, a regular in a top four team and for England which I would say should at least double the amount Henderson is “worth”.

    I’m not bothering to watch YouTube of Willian as it can make anyone look good, but when I’ve seen him play before (against us mainly) I don’t recall being overly impressed.

  21. So, if the rumours are to be believed, Denilson’s big step up will be to Shakhtar?

    Makes his excuses for leaving seem pretty pathetic now, if not just downright bullshit. If anything he simply fell out of favour. Tense for him if he stays around next year.

  22. It feels weird to talk up other team’s players, but the home match against Shakhtar was a perfect team performance by us – in the away leg they caused us no end of trouble though, and Willian was a big part of that.

    It’s probably going to turn out to be no more than a figment of a hack’s imagination anyway, but I like him a lot.

    Anyway:

    http://www.arsenal.com/news/reserves-news/carl-jenkinson-joins-arsenal

  23. Hey, Shakhtar are one of the best sides on the continent – they’ve got a real European pedigree and core of very good Brazliian players, as well as guys like Srna, who’s one of the best right-backs around. Jádson’s also in the Copa America squad this summer. If Denilson goes there it’s still a step down, but not a massive one at all.

  24. Markus – Come on Markus, Shaktar will be a big step-up for Denilson as he will probably make the first team there which he is failing to do at Arsenal . I must admit though, I did find Denilson comment’s about wanting to leave “to win things” rather laughable, unless you means the championship or the Johnson’s Paint trophy (or whatever the bloody thing is called now).

  25. Hey Block4, yeah true. I wasn’t so much talking about how much we’d get if we hoiked them to Liverpool though, more that it’s important we secured players like this early and develop them ourselves, so now we’re not paying over the odds for young English talent.

    Also, Henderson was worth fuck all last summer. It only takes one breakthrough season. It’s a lot harder to get that breakthrough at Arsenal than at Sunderland but you can make it happen. Jack and Gibbo (back-up Arsenal leftback at 21 is no mean feat) are great examples. There’s a few more coming up behind them that I give a great chance, and lots more who aren’t English!

    I feel the same way about youtube, but at the same time you can spot natural touch and a cracking hit of the ball a mile off.

  26. Has anyone thought that the Nasri thing on Twitter could be him getting ready to join Man U and to get into the Man U way of tweeting, a la Rooney and Ferdinand? Perhaps he’s even started tapping up other Arsenal players, “hey Cesc, come to Man U with me if you want to win trophies”
    Only joking!!!
    The other thing I’ve been wondering, at the moment, in the transfer period, how does the Arsenal look to prospective targets. Collapsed at end of season, low morale, players asking to leave, nearly dropping out of CL place, comparitavely low wages, contract disputes…. if you were a promising young player, would you want to move to a team like that? Not sure that I would!
    Alternatively, you look at say Liverpool, on the rise, new dynamic manager, willing to splash the cash, could be heading for a period of glory! Would it be such a big decision to chose Liverpool?

  27. Theo really is thick as shit isnt he

  28. Ha ha! Defending your 2nd team there, OOU!

  29. Theo is a bit naive, not thick, but but saying that we have a small squad, he is essentialy referring to, as some of the players must think, the fact that there is a lack of quality back-up in the squad.

  30. At a time like this saying stupid shit like that to the press? As I stated earlier he’s thick as shit.

  31. Which idiot said Kosielny or Chamakh were shit Martin, no, no, no .. both fine players of Arsenal calibre; Kos is already highly rated from his first season and Chamakh has all the right attributes. Skillaci was never mentioned or meant in the same way; certainly it seemed and was a good buy at the time, a bit of experience, inexpensive, available, but more than that he was bought as a cover, and ended up starting far too often, as did Djourou. At the time Vermaelen was expected back “in a few weeks”. It exposed him for sure, but then we are talking of our 4th choice CB. As for Ade, Cole and Gallas; all fine players with strong skill, and I’m personally happy to see back of the all three for different reasons. I did however think we were a mite hasty in showing Toure the exit door, and couldn’t understand why (except that he wanted some o’ dat ManC money) and we have needed him, in a kind of Skillaci role, ever since he left. Pity.

  32. Haha, well I don’t really know much about them, LA. But I’d be doing my shopping in Eastern Europe and South America if I wanted value. If we were to sign Willian we’d be told that AW’s a cheapskate and whatever, but Shakhtar aren’t nobodies – I mean, they battered Roma in the CL this season and won the Uefa Cup a couple of years back. They’re hardly obscure, but just about far flung enough to ensure that we’d get a good deal.

    And £20 million for Jordan Henderson is a f*cking joke. If that sets the tone for the English market then I wouldn’t be surprised if we played no part. Except if a certain big-haired player has only one year left to run…

    Talking too much again!

  33. Theo, I do love you mate but, can’t count the amount of times I have said out loud “stay the fuck out the media and stick to letting your boots talk”. Before you first set back last season you were “man on fire” you then started the media interview shit and then got injured and never really hit the same heights on a regular basis.

    However, I happen to know a member of you family in Wiltshire and will try to get a message through to you to shut the fuck up and concentrate on football and changing Wenger’s mind to start you up front where you supposed to be.

  34. Matt Perry | June 8, 2011 at 11:39 am

    “Theo really is thick as shit isnt he”

    lol, footballers are rarely the sharpest bunch.
    I was disappointed with that Theo interview. Saying how much you want to play as a striker to the media is not cool.
    He should be discussing those sort of things with the manager, not the press.
    He’s not the only one though, and i wonder why they do that.

  35. If footballers havent learned by now they never will. They must gain something out of it. Surely its impossible to be that dense.

  36. Carl Jenkinson.

    I haven’t seen him play but, now I am shit worried that groundhog day has arrived for the 7th year on the trot. Is this what it’s going to be through out the rest of the transfer window? I really hope not.

    Undisclosed fee?! It’s not only fees that are undisclosed from us is it but, statements like that are dangerous in the KGB world of a worried Gooner.

    I can’t understand this like many other signings especially the ones made last year. I don’t yet share the view that Kos, Squillachi, DJ are up to it and that’s based on what I have seen and I do hope they improve next season like I keep being told. One thing for sure is that they must not be paired because they both have concentration issues which conceded goals. If they play wit TV or another experienced Premiership CB then they will be fine which brings me back to Carl Jenkinson. Ain’t seen him play but, nice to know he’s a Gooner.

    Because we haven’t heard anything that normally means that Wenger is hard at work and the media fuckers have no idea what he’s up to until it’s already happened.

    Just something to make us think “yeah we got a chance to build on last season with this new guy”. I’m not feeling that way yet.

  37. mumbai gooner

    Liverpool are spending crazy money..IMO they will not finish above 5th fighting with spuds

  38. Henristic | June 8, 2011 at 11:54 am

    I think he has every right to chat about that if he wants to. He is after all a striker whose done his time on the wings now and wants to get back to what he knows best.

    Easy for us to say he shouldn’t go to to press about it but, if it were you and you seen somebody as shit as Bendtner, playing in your position for so many years with no production or first touch you would also be very pissed off. I’m not saying he was right but, I know I would be super pissed as he sdone his time out there.

    To rub salt in the 3inch wide cut you then get subbed for Bendtner. Tell me,when we were chasing games and then you see Bendtner warming up and then Theo coming off for Bendtner do you think “Oh Yeah about time Wenger!” and then feel in your heart that we now have an edge and can go onto win the match?

    Theo isn’t as dumb as some might think I mean there are players who can’t simply clear a ball into the stands at a Cup Final which results in conceding a goal isn’t there?

  39. Lets all ask ourselves ………if you were the Arsenal skipper, would you make any sales or purchases until Nasri and Cesc futures with the club are resolved?

    The club roster needs to be settled sooner rather than later..

  40. Its a bit naive on Matt Perry’s and Henristic’s part to think that none of our players our concerned with the current situation we find ourselves in. Arsenal fans are running around screaming like babies while the media is feeding them all the ammunition they need to shit themselves.

    Arsenal players are a bit too honest at times, Theo is no exception. What I like about Theo’s comments is that he always puts the club 1st, he didn’t demand to be played up top or he will leave. We have known Theo would like to be our striker for the last what, 3 years?! Then theres players like Cesc, RvP who always speak openly to the fans about their ambitions etc.

    Call him a bit thick, but I actually respect a concerned player for opening his mouth. Would we rather he was afraid to speak openly or speak to his manager, then suddenly hand in a transfer request…

  41. I begin to think it likely that the Gervinho deal is more serious. It would be a fantastic purchase, you basically get two personalities (and who knows, perhaps there are more inside there) for one player, Gervinho and him, Gervinho. Both excelled at Lille as I understand.

    As for what Theo said, naaah, makes no difference to anything. It’s hardly ‘news’ that players are sentient beings who also think ‘what happened this last season; is something fundamentally wrong’? And then most will conclude, nope, it’s coming and coming soon; yep, we are that close, but we need a little more strength in depth now, two players is what we are talking about, and now I suspect three, with a Wenger surprise.

  42. What we are witnessing is actually the demise of Arsenal under Wenger. No amount of real or imagined signings can remedy the rot. We have no delusions about some football that Arsenal play, which is actually quite good but not enough to win trophies. Under Wenger, there will be no trophies, this year or till he is there, ie 2014. His arrogance is bewildering. After the last match, he said that ” we are not in a relegation scrap”! His ambition is gone, he has lost the dressing room. In a year or two, players like Ramsey, Walcott and Wilshere, who he gave chances to, will start to think of leaving.

    Wenger has lost the dressing room, the ability to motivate players and his comments are frankly embarassing since the last few seasons. He has lost the respect of fellow coaches, the media and the players. He is on borrowed time and living off the achievements in the beginning of his Arsenal career.

    We want the best for Arsenal but we don’t want to see the club die. Death for a club like Arsenal means non-CL football, trophyless years, mid-table finishes and mediocre players. His prevarications, excuses resemble that of Comical Ali. Unless and until the board and the mercenary owner don’t change and sign a new manager, there will be no signings worthy of their name and no trophies.

    If Wenger signs a few established English or foreign players this season, on that basis alone will I come to this blog and apologize. But he won’t!

  43. Zp,

    Ha ha. That is a brilliant idea. Especially for games, when we play against teams that have the 12th man on their side(ref). Gervinhio’s ‘other’, can always nullify that bias.

    Saw nothing wrong with Theo’s comments. What’s there to bitch about? That he wants to play as a striker, wants us to win things?

    And neither did I find Nasri’s comments any differently. Just wants a better pay. No flirting with United.

    So as of now, we’ve signed 2 Players from Barcelona, who we will sell them back for 50m each when they’ve led us to trophies. And a tall right back, for the future. Excellent business as usual.

  44. Chill out. Jenkinson is our replacement for Nordtveit. It’s not like he’ll be taking Sagna’s place.

  45. Oh f*ck off, Cobbled C*nt.

    Haha, ZP.

    I think if Theo had made these comments during the season nobody would give them a second thought. But the absence of real news means every word uttered by our players is scrutinised like crazy. There’s nothing in it for me.

  46. Kubla Khan,

    “If Wenger signs a few established English or foreign players this season, on that basis alone will I come to this blog and apologize. But he won’t!”

    And Chamakh, Squiallaci, And TV, weren’t established players? How about you fuck off right now, and only come to apologize here after every signing we make this summers? Go on. See you soon.

  47. Amazing that we should want to move a player from a position where he plays a part in just under a goal a game. 9 goals and 8 assists in 19 Premier League starts. Maybe just leave him to develop as it seems to be coming along nicely? And he’s not a winger, he’s a forward on the right side of our attack. Big difference. He spends a fair bit of time switching into the middle too. Is Arshavin a winger?

  48. Naive?
    Of course he and other players are concerned. I was telling you that just yesterday.
    Completely different matter to saying he’d prefer a certain position. What is the media or fans supposed to do about that? Is he trying to use the press to put pressure on the manager? Whats is the point talking to press/fans about stuff like that?

  49. One K short of a Komplete Kunt. Powerful imagination though… pure make believe.

  50. “What we are witnessing is actually the demise of Arsenal under Wenger”

    hhhahahahaha, joke of the day!

  51. Markus,

    Replacement for Nordveit? How many senior games did Nordveit play that he needed replacing so badly?

    Well he looks the part and sounds like a decent kid who is also a fan and fergie was chasing him around when he was only 17yrs old so he must have something special. Only seen a Youtube but, as LA said you can easily tell quality. Just see if he can make the step up now.

  52. It’s true, Markus. CJ (that’s quite catchy!) will be on the fringes of the first team squad this season. Hopefully we’re going back to using youngsters in the CC, so we’ll probably get our first sight of him there.

  53. @Kubla Khan’t
    You’d be better off on Online Gooner, you’ll be amongst friends and ‘Wenger haters’.

  54. Limpar

    When we are in full flow Theo is utilized perfectly. Against Chelsea his run behind the defence was a perfect example. So many important games where Arsenal have stepped up, Theo played a huge part in it. I do think he is very underrated on the right wing, but I do believe he is his best when drifting in.

    What kind of performances he can give us as a CF in front of a Van Persie or Chamakh will be interesting. I would like to see Wenger try it in a few games as we have clearly lacked something in the final 3rd towards the end of last season. If another wide player is brought in and a certain CF is to leave, I can see Theo getting a try out up front. Like you say though, it will be only a try out as we don’t know how effective he can be in our current formation.

  55. Kubla Khan | June 8, 2011 at 12:32 pm

    Your just an angry fan who has expressed himself in the wrong manner. Go have a wank and cupper and come back and explain yourself.

  56. ChrisGoona | June 8, 2011 at 12:50 pm

    That’s all I was trying to say really got lost somewhere. Because of my hatred for Bendtner in an Arsenal shirt I spit blood when he comes on because to me putting Theo up front when we are chasing seems more sense then having that big headed cunt lose the ball trying to do step overs and shit he can’t do.

    Henry……Walcott.

    Trust me, when defenders see these names on a team sheet they say to them selves “oh ff sake”.
    That’s due to a fear factor.

  57. Whose responsible for making up new song to sing at matches because this area also need looking at don’t you think?

  58. LimparAssist

    Yeah, CG, I can see it – I just think we’re sort of getting that already playing him where he is. This game is a good example. Watch how central his runs are. Often he’s the furthest player forward in our attack. I think 4-3-3 needs an incredible pivot in the middle. RVP is it, Chamakh plays that role very well too – albeit without the game-changing magic just yet. And then you have two, preferably quick forwards either side making clever runs in behind. Theo can’t play as that pivot yet, but he can be unplayable as one of those forwards.

  59. LimparAssist | June 8, 2011 at 12:39 pm

    “Amazing that we should want to move a player from a position where he plays a part in just under a goal a game. 9 goals and 8 assists in 19 Premier League starts. Maybe just leave him to develop as it seems to be coming along nicely? And he’s not a winger, he’s a forward on the right side of our attack. Big difference. He spends a fair bit of time switching into the middle too. Is Arshavin a winger?”

    You should be telling Theo that. Seems to me he’s the one most dissatisfied with his current position

  60. For sure, LA, Theo’s best postion is the one he’s in at the moment. His main strengths are his pace and the way he times his runs, and the best place we can put it all that to use is on the right on left.

    Actually, in van Gaal’s 4-3-3 at Ajax, Ronald de Boer (mainly a midfielder) was often used as a centre-forward, not because he was anything special in front of goal, but because he was one of the best around at linking up with teammates, and had terrifying wingers and attacking midfielders around him. Chamakh and RvP do it well with us. So maybe this whole false nine thing has been around a bit longer than we thought.

  61. george rodger

    So we can forget Jones.Thank fuck .1 down 87 to go.Samba next please.

  62. £16 million beats our record signing, doesn’t it?

  63. Blackburn CB Phil Jones currently at utd undergoing a medical. We have just another teen CB from the second tier as per last season. It’s not hard to see why certain Gooners, think the worse with what they see. Especially hearing both bit’s of news on the same afternoon.

    More to come though I hope as we will need more than that to push on next season.

  64. LimparAssist

    Both of our Gervinhos will be running rings round Phil Jones next season. Maybe all three of him.

  65. Why would anyone fear the worst? Henderson and Phil Jones have shown promise, but little more than that. The only worrying thing is the precedent the outrageous fees could set.

    If we’d spent that kind of money on two ultimately unproven players, the same fans that you say are fearing the worst would be absolutely apoplectic. £20 million would wipe out most of our budget. And I know the situation is slightly different, but Henderson has just been bought for £8 million more than Inter paid for Sneijder.

  66. george rodger | June 8, 2011 at 1:21 pm

    In fact fuck em all! Our defence as we have seen is top fucking dollar and doesn’t need no changing whatsoever does it?!

    Fucking brilliant at defending set plays and you wont’t see more balls into the box attacked than when it comes to our back line will you?

    And as for communication no other does it better.

    Yeah fuck em all and keep it like it is. No need to wish to improve eh!

    Fucking shareholders.

  67. Kubla Khan

    The only comments that are embarrassing are yours. Arsenal supporter my arse.

    YW

  68. LimparAssist

    Where did all those Cashley Ahole fanciers from yesterday go?

    Ashley Cole had the worst tackle success rate in the whole of Premier League in 2010/11 – 67%. Worst in the whole division.

  69. Well, these FSG guys at Liverpool certainly don’t mind splashing the cash eh?
    Does anyone know if that’s how they do business over at Red Sox? Me thinks they are trusting Comolli a bit too much. I can’t see Caroll and Henderson having resale values anywhere close to their quoted transfer fees.

  70. 16 million was the buy out clause. If United want to spend it let them. Fools.

  71. You can dress it up any stupid way if it makes you feel better. Walcots a fucking idiot. I’d like him to spend a day in my workplace and take the shit im getting cos he’s thick as shit. Why bother saying anything? It doesnt matter what you think theo, just play the game and shut the hell up. If youre going to say somehting, just lavish praise on the players and the club, you thick prick.

  72. “Ashley Cole had the worst tackle success rate in the whole of Premier League in 2010/11 – 67%. Worst in the whole division.”

    Best LB in the world my ***!

  73. Fuck up Matt

  74. Matt Perry | June 8, 2011 at 2:05 pm

    “You can dress it up any stupid way if it makes you feel better. Walcots a fucking idiot. I’d like him to spend a day in my workplace and take the shit im getting cos he’s thick as shit. Why bother saying anything? It doesnt matter what you think theo, just play the game and shut the hell up. If youre going to say somehting, just lavish praise on the players and the club, you thick prick.”

    Calm down dude. Whats with the insults?

  75. I would like to see Theo upfront in a 4 4 2 , his pace and finishing would be better served there. He himself wants to play there the manager has said it is where he will end up, he has done his time on the wing so lets see him play in his natural position. He possesses many of the same qualities at TH14 .
    I really dont get how people can get on Chamacks back, he did extremely well on his debut and will only get better next season.

  76. Markus, what would you like me to fuck up?

  77. My main problem with Walcott’s play is that he doesn’t use his strengths enough. He’s not particularly skilful, so getting the ball to feet and trying to beat his man is next to useless. His best attributes are pace and good finishing, so he should be looking to get in behind at every opportunity. With the likes of Fabregas, Wilshere, Van Persie, Nasri and Arshavin around they’ll find him if he keeps making the runs. His play with the ball into feet with a defender facing him up should be to pop it off and spin in behind and run on to the return pass. If he doesn’t get it then someone on the coaching staff should be drumming it into him.

  78. United sign a youngster for 17mill. Man city isn’t even in the market yet. Liverpool are on hyperdrive

    Aren’t clubs supposed to start planning for FFP rules? Or is it as Wenger said that clubs are in a dash to sign players before the rules come into effect?

  79. Henristic, im annoyed and saying so on an arsenal blog, no need to piss and moan about it, im not the first person to do this you know, i havent found a gap in the market

  80. LimparAssist

    ‘Ello, James. Tottenham sold anyone to Man Utd yet?

  81. Hello, its your favourite troll. Good spot Limpar, I thought id get a longer run then that. Thought id pop in and say hello cos I know you miss my original brand of witty banter.

    Limpar, not sold modric yet but dont worry it will happen, no one to blame but ourselves though, we even dropped more silly points then you guys.

    Im probably going to get banned now, so ill end by saying good luck on the upcoming season. I really hope you win something this year, you deserve it.

    Thankyou & Goodnight.

  82. LimparAssist

    You always were a good deal more value than some of our own fans on here, Jimbo. Good luck to your boys, and Happy St Totteringham’s Day in advance.

  83. Ashley Cole lovers… As in those who aren’t bias and do not suffer from memory loss and recall how much they love they had for him at one point in their lives and more over can still see pictures of him holding up silverware in an Arsenal shirt?

    His head got turned and he done the dirty but, I think we would be very naive or fucking dumb to think that was all it was and there was nothing going on at the club at the time that also made him look the other way.

  84. george rodger | June 8, 2011 at 1:21 pm

    “sky sources understands” (apologies William). That Wenger was speaking to him yesterday but, he chose utd. and

    So george rodger, it looks as though your shit out of luck and as you love to tell people “you also know fuckall shit” about what the team requires as Wenger is no longer going to satisfy you or your shareholder chums any more and will be looking to bring in players to help kick us on.

  85. Jabba's delights

    Henristic

    Yer they spend big with the Red Sox, but in a way that can be misleading as the Red Sox by a country mile have the 2nd biggest revenue in baseball.

    I think you will see alot of players also moving out of the Pool in the summer and their net spend wont actually be that huge. Plus they will reduce the wage bill which currently stands a bit higher than ours.

    The worry is that they have a proven record of making winners, where our Stan has a proven record of increasing revenue through bespoke tv deals but very little record of winning or spending to win in america. The Denver Nuggets his main love being the cheif example of this. For 8 years they have been consistently good getting to the playoffs which is a great record in american sport due to parity, but he never spent money to get them over the top. 7 of those years they got beat up in the 1st round of the playoffs.

    Delighted Liverpool are spending their cash on Henderson he is no better than Ramsey. Its a major worry that Utd are signing more depth and future quality though. De Gea, Jones, Young and a playmaker makes them significantly better than last year

  86. ZP still laughing at “Gervinho and him” highlight of the day!

  87. Yogi:

    Nice post again. Gonna be a long summer. Depressing seeing ManU finish 12 points ahead of us yet they believe they have to strengthen their team and they go out and get business done quickly. We struggle with media and with 2 of our 3 most critical attacking players being “wantaway”. You can talk all you want about terrible fans and shallow fans but I really want this team to be successful and win trophies and it feels like so many of the things we doing are not helping us do that. We are waiting and hoping for the day when ManU, Liverpool, Chelsea, ManCity go bust and then we will swoop in and be the dominant force in the universe. That glorious end point seems to be further away then it was 4 years ago. I know my glass has always been 1/2 empty but its very hard to feel positive about the overall direction and feel of our club at this point.

    Limpar:

    Great comments about Theo. Agree completely, his position is not a “winger”. I would like to see him more on the left side of the front 3.

  88. Plz nasir dnt leave we still need u….becuz u hv a better future in asnal u r our only hope nxt season u r d one to raise our trophy u nasir worcut wilshe ramzy n fabrigas bt fabrigas wants to leave d club.if fabrigash goes his carriar will b finished becuz baca r hoMes of stars. Becus ur carear will b finished ull b benched so dng go from don b

  89. I was going to write that the only season when Ashley came close to his Arsenal form was last season. But reading that stat from above I guess I could be wrong there.

  90. When financial fairplay does finally kick in, I hope it makes people value the depth of quality there is at this club. I just don’t see how anyone Arsenal fan can envy spending so much money on such mediocrity.

    Is it the size of the fee? The whole statement of intent thing?

    It looks to me like some people’s priorities are fucked.

    But I suppose when you put the Jones and Henderson transfers in that light they do make a bit more sense, even if they are still crazy. If this is indeed the final binge, then it follows that younger players should be more valuable in the final summer transfer window before the restrictions kick in. I still don’t think either are worth more than half their fees.

  91. Gr*t in hell.
    I see some self declared ‘experts’ are still struggling with the term ‘inside forward’.

    Ah well. One can but try.

  92. Of course Theo wants to play as a ‘striker’.
    He will. At times he already is.
    Perhaps his desire to score goals is what makes him the good ‘inside rightish’ or ‘inside leftish’ kind of player that he is.

  93. Well he dosent seem to feel he is playing as a striker at the moment if he has opened his mouth about it… Ive never really seen the two outside strikers possessing enough goal threat to be considered true strikers, Especially as Theo has a very good right foot shot and cant utilize that from the right.

  94. Not saying they’re going to make it for sure (although the signs do look good), but anyone who has seen Aneke and Afobe play together will get an idea of the value of having players develop a relationship on the pitch from a young age. It’s the product of years spent together in the same team.

    With the way we play, our goal has got to be to nurture that kind of partnership. It’s so much more important than spending money. Although I do agree of course that a smart signing or two can reinvigorate any side (the size of the fee doesn’t mean shit though).

    FP, I think he starts wide, but makes a lot of runs inside, which is what happens when you have a striker that drops off. Still an inside forward of course, but I guess you can see how some people don’t recognise it as such.

  95. ‘Especially as Theo has a very good right foot shot and cant utilize that from the right.’

    Pure unrefiuned gr*t from yet another *coughs* ‘expert’. Or maybe not.

    If one bother sto watch these games of football, or perchance refer to the guardian chalkboards, they will find that the bulk of Theo’s goals (there are quite a few) come from right footed shots in a certain zone of the right side of the opponents pelanty box.

  96. Man, I hope I’m not included as a “self-declared expert”. If it wasn’t so repetitive I’d put a disclaimer at the bottom of every post – just shooting the breeze!

  97. Anyone else think that Pedro is a diving version of Walcott? Not saying one is better, just similar.

    Anyway, a nice goal from Pedro against the Mancs, from a central/right sided position inside the penalty box the other week. Who’d have guessed that he could score such a goal with his good foot from such a position! Madness.

  98. Nah OOU.

  99. Jabba's delights

    I agree Finsbury Theo is an inside right and could do the same from the left where his finishing is even more deadly witness his goals against Shaktar and Germany U21 but the problem here and with Nasri and Arshavin cutting in is that we must then get our natural width from our full backs which we just dont get. They get into great positions but then their end product is weak, this must change if we are to break down teams who defend deep and congest the middle of the pitch

  100. I often think Theo should adopt the Marc Overmar’s style of attacking a defender….

    Kick it past him and run, no fancy tricks or movement.

    Worked for him!

  101. Thing with Theo is that he is already playing ahead of Van Persie most times and making central runs, but he still has defensive duties in the 4-3-3 system which inhibit him. If we had another midfielder covering him on the right in a fake 4-4-2 system he’d be even more unstoppable.

    FAKE 4-4-2 that is actually a 4-3-3! Get it sorted Wenger. Easy.

  102. tbf Theo has described himself as a winger in the past, trying to clarify his role in team: assists and then goals. Apparently he isn’t the brightest!

    Matt, there are times when he might do that. But he is also trying to develop and improve his skills. I don’t mind. He’ll still be able to ‘kick and run’ in a few years time. Bale is like walcott a few years ago, now he’s got to try and develop other areas of his game, starting at a later age. This way, Theo’s skillset has visibly improved and will get better (not an expert opinion, just ignorent speculation, but he is getting better in the old control department. Lovely chested control for his last goal).

  103. OOU:

    “With the way we play, our goal has got to be to nurture that kind of partnership. It’s so much more important than spending money.”

    Why in the world do those 2 have to be mutually exclusive? A hybrid of the 2 seems like the ideal way to build a club. Certainly the most emphasis is on player development but it feels to me like the pendulum has swung a bit to far and somehow we have lost site of the importance to player and fan morale to have some success today. You can argue that maintaining 3rd or 4th place on a budget is success but that doesn’t feel successful anymore. Afobe already had a brief flirtation with Barca (at least in the press) a couple of years ago so who knows what will happen in next year much less in 2 -4 when they are ready for regular first team action

  104. Hi all. I see Kubla Khan is back here dooming the fuck out. Screw off guy, “the demise of Arsenal under Wenger” Truly, the club is falling apart. Running at a profit and being in the Champions League sounds terrible!

    I personally enjoy hearing our players talk. It gives me a bit more of a connection with them on a human level rather than just adoring them for their skill. Theo is no exception. Would you expect a 21 year old to speak well infront of a camera knowing that millions of people are watching? He has not shown any disrespect for the club. Let the boy speak his mind (i’m talking to you Matt Perry)

    Another day in the office, work is life

  105. TimmyT if you paid attention to some of our games you would notice a similar pattern. Theo gets the ball on the right wing, gets the defender off balance, a couple dribbles then a low hard shot into the side netting.

  106. Another question. Have any of you had Arsenal related dreams? I had one last night where i was playing on the left wing against Barcalona! It was pretty fucking cool until 6:30 rolled around and I had to awake from my slumber.

  107. LimparAssist

    Did you stop reading OOUs post when you came to the end of that sentence, Bill?

  108. LimparAssist

    That sounds wicked, william. I can sympathise. I had a dream last night that Henri Lansbury and I were both on loan at Wigan. We combined wonderfully, notably in a 3-0 demolition of Wolves one rainy night in November.

    Wish I could make myself dream the big games.

  109. You really are just a miserable cunt arnt you finsbury,,, right miserable self righteous cunt…
    Wallow in your own misery and dont answer my posts if you get so annoyed,,,

  110. Henristic

    “Well, these FSG guys at Liverpool certainly don’t mind splashing the cash eh?
    Does anyone know if that’s how they do business over at Red Sox?”

    For the most part, the answer to your question is yes, this is how they do business with the Red Sox. Although the way “transfers” work in Major League Baseball is completely different, they are what you could call cash splashers. They bring in big names nearly every off season and have done so consistently over the past few years.

  111. William
    TimmyT if you paid attention to some of our games you would notice a similar pattern. Theo gets the ball on the right wing, gets the defender off balance, a couple dribbles then a low hard shot into the side netting.
    I never ever said he wasnt effective or didn’t score goals from there, he does. I still feel he could contribute more from a central or left sided position.. Just my humble opinion, dont see then need for abuse. Im not self righteous in my comments and never abuse or insult player, simply discuss ideas this seems to threaten those with below average intelligence.. like Finsbury.

  112. LimparAssist

    Speaking of demolishing Wolves, one of my favourite goals in recent years was Fabregas assisted by RVP at Molineux… all started off by Bac Sagna… picking it up deep, exchanging a couple 1-2s out wide before chipping in the perfect dinked ball for RVP to kill it dead for Cesc. Nothing weak about that end product. Sagna’s crossing is actually excellent. It’s just we’re not a crossing team. Probably put less crosses in than any other team in the league. Is that part of the plan do you think?

  113. Some would argue that every formation in the world is ultimately a fake 4-4-2

  114. Theo Walcott is something of an enigma. Sometimes I watch him play and he doesn’t seem to have a clue. I can understand Waddle’s comments about his football brain sometimes, when he seems to just run into defenders and lose the ball but sometimes he looks absolutely world class. In that cameo collection from the Spurs game, he looked superb.

    When I have doubts, I think about the following three comments I have heard in the past two years.

    1. After our first encounter with Barcelona in the season before last, one of their players highlighted Theo as the player they feared most from Arsenal.
    2. After the 2010 World Cup Finals, no lesser person than Lionel Messi said that he was shocked that England didn’t take Theo to the finals and he said that he thought Theo was England’s most dangerous player.
    3. Just before the end of the season, Robin Van Persie talked about just how important Theo is to Arsenal, in terms of his movement and the spatial awareness that he shows up front.

    I am minded to take notice of the comments of people with that kind of pedigree.

    I think we often see the superficial things, like Theo falling over the ball or giving it away cheaply but the players look more at the positive things that he does. If you are a defender and Theo has skinned you a dozen times in a match, you are a bit relieved if he trips over the ball on one occasion and you are hardly going to rubbish him for that. There is no doubt that Theo’s presence dictates that our opposition has to take special measures to deal with him.

    I say stick with him and he will come good!

  115. Yes Timmy T, i am always miserable when I have to use the wheel to scroll past your gr*t. A waste of electricity in these times.

    I’ll trust those who’ve made Walcott the player he is today to make the call at the right time for him to play more conventionally as a CF.

  116. Theo is just as good now as Thierry Henry was at the same age, and he didn’t turn out too bad did he?

  117. george rodger

    For “he choose United” read “we could not agree terms and £17 million you are having a laugh”

    If he has signed for United he must be worth it .because they never overpay and never make mistakes in the market.

    Goonerton.I am glad we did not sign him.How does that but me with the board?You are a bit thick,no?

  118. Theo is a wonderful player, what’s all this … debate about. Football brains and media brains are on different sides aren’t they, so don’t make him your media officer. His early season performances (prior to the injury) were fantastic and he had started to do some clever stuff, dribble effectively, and go one-two hey presto I’m through, shoot well and hard, and move into space for RvP to make a through pass. He moved fast and naturally inside with the ball at his feet, and looked dangerous. His later season play lacked that same confidence, but I have no doubt he is going to do more than run fast on the outside and cross.

    He is under-estimated, and all this crap about ‘football brain’ is punditry of the lower kind, which is lower than the normal kind, which is already depressing low.

  119. Theo doesn’t have to play out on the wing at all times. All I’m saying is that in some of games where he was replaced for that big face cunt it may of served us better moving him up the and dropping VP just behind. No defender in the Prem want to play against him given the choice.

    How the fuck can you see any logic about the comments from that cunt waddle about Theo?!
    What top pundit team does he work for and what has he done in the past?

  120. Someone should ask Waddle how his football brain was working when he blazed his penalty over the bar for England at the 1990 World Cup.

    Surely his football brain should of told him that hitting the target wouldn’t of been a bad idea.

  121. I did not mean to offend Timmy, I was responding to your statement.
    Watching the above video of young Theo against Spuds, it is clear to see how his movement up top clears space on other parts of the pitch. Chris Hansen fuck off!

  122. Matt

    His footballing brain indeed told him that. His money-making brain said, “Miss and you can make a mint from Pizza adverts.”

    YW

  123. At least Theo wanted to come to our club. Unlike a certain player who’s arse is forever being licked out on here…. He wasn’t forced to stay or had to begged to stay.

    His brains were in the right place then weren’t they?

    I just hope he doesn’t surf this article and read some of the shit on it regarding him from an ungrateful handful of sods.

  124. I may have got the name wrong there, I don’t watch those talk shows.

    “punditry of the lower kind, which is lower than the normal kind, which is already depressing low” well said, ZimPaul

  125. I wonder if anyone ever watched that advert and seeing Waddle persuaded them to buy a Pizza?

  126. Jabba's delights

    Limpar

    Another goal i loved against Wolves was this years effort in the first min at Molineaux. Song deep cross Chamack smashes his header in. Pure beauty

    it would be great to see what that boy could do if Arsene devised a plan to play to his strengths.

  127. mumbai gooner

    I second that markus

  128. Jabba’s delights | June 8, 2011 at 4:44 pm

    You me both. I do rate Chams highly but, sadly for him the system doesn’t quite suit his style of play at the moment.

  129. Arrrrrrrgh. Working opposite a Catalunian is frustrating at times. He sends me lovely snippets like:

    Acuerdo por Cesc
    El FC Barcelona y Cesc Fàbregas han llegado ya a un preacuerdo para que el jugador catalán se incorpore al equipo de Pep Guardiola de cara a la próxima temporada

    From Sport.es. He paraphrased a translation to ‘ Barca and Cesc have reached an agreement, and he will join Pep’s squad next year.

    Now, I highlighted one key component that is missing from this sickening pursuit, ARSENAL FOOTBALL CLUB.

    Not once, nada, are we referneced in any of thier media spin. Bastardos!

    I’m resigned to losing the Gas if we recieve a Ronaldo-esque fee OR if he hands in a transfer request. Nothing else.

  130. Theo’s had a really good season and now all he has to do is push on. However one thing I would lie to see him do more is shoot with his left foot because I see defenders forcing him to his left side often. He has the pace to take a quick step and shoot/cross with his right foot so I guess that’s why defenders do this. Theo does have the quality to shoot with his left foot as I remember a quite beautiful goal against Burnley in the 09-10 season.

  131. One accidental advantage of Chamakh is that he is very useful with his head when we are defending corner – and by God do we need to sharpen that little exercise – stick him on the near post he does not fuck up the header away

  132. Jabba's delights

    Often when we are playing at our very best its because we are getting decent crosses into the box and shooting from distance. We can be unplaybale when we arent so obsessed with tippy tappy and in retrospect our tippy tappy can work better if the oppostiion have to take account of the wide areas and our players shooting from distance.

    Its like a rugby team who only want to spin it wide, if they ever actually made the fringe defence defend honestly rather than drift it actually makes their elaborate wide game easier to put into action.

    Chamack was one of the best if not the best aerial forward in europe before he joined us he scored just as many as Rooney in the CL 2009-10. We must start utilising our players strengths better.

    Here in lies one of our issues both defensively and offensively. We say we dont practise set peices defensively which makes us poor offensively, but do we have one player in the squad who can put in a decent consistant set piece……? Chamack scored 80% of his goals from headers at Bordeaux the other side to that is he had Gourcoff putting the ball in for him.

  133. LimparAssist

    He scored with his head against Villa too. Ref chalked it off though for no apparent reason. Cunt.

  134. I like Chamack a lot and earlier last season he really showed his potential, but as people say, Wenger needs to play him to his strengths and he needs someone to supply. Could that player be Ryo Miyaichi?
    What seems to have been lost in the Jenkinson signing today is that Afobe and Aneke have both signed long term contracts along with the dutch kid, Oguzhan Ozyakup. He’s gonna be a mouthful for commentators in the future!

    Just thinking about this Phil Jones move to Man Utd. The boy is only 19, has only played 39 first team games in 2 seasons and they paid something like £17m for him. Glad Wenger didn’t get him, not at that price!

  135. Jabba's delights

    Northbank

    It is good news about Aneke and Afobe as both have real quality. Aneke was the guy wenger meant when he spoke about 14 year olds who are ‘technically perfect ‘3 years ago. If we could find a championship club that would take both that would be awesome. A good friend of mine is die hard palace fan and he always wonders why our clubs dont form a link. Myachi should go back to holland for a year, tired of players learning with us. When he is ready to compete for a 1st team place bring him back.

    With regards to Phil Jones i find it quite interesting. He is obvioulsy very talented and can play in midfield as well but he doesnt suit what we need. I think they basically took him over Rodwell who would also cost a huge amount. We dont need another short ball playing cb, we have 2 very good ones already, we need an absolute beeeeeast, then we have 4 cbs who compliment each other perfectly

  136. Gainsbourg69

    Martin: “YW the thing is if we sign any of players you name.As soon as they put on an Arsenal shirt you will be getting fans on here saying how great they are.It happened last year with Squillaci Koscielny and Chamakh.Its funny how peoples opinion of players changes when they put on an Arsenal shirt.And when they leave ie Helb Adebayor Gallas and Cole they were shit all along.”

    This makes no sense whatsoever.

  137. G69:

    Incredibly interesting series now. I still think the Heat are favorites but if the Mavs can take the next game that switches. Finally someone not named Dirk brought their A game last night. Offensive rebounds by Chandler were huge. I heard somewhere that the scores of these games have been closer then any finals series in history. Great stuff.

  138. Jabba's delights

    Bill

    Stevensen was the key. In both Mavs wins he has played just under 50 mins total, in both losses 28.

    HIs 3 pointers in such a tight series are just crucial, especially with so many of the Mavs not bringing their A game after crushing the Lakers inside 4.

  139. Limpar @ 3:37:

    No I read that sentence, however, many of us will give lip service to the idea that may be its time for some modifications of the way we have done business. However whenever a specific player or strengthening a specific position is discussed the standard “but we already have great players there and we don’t need anyone else” kicks in. I guess we have been fighting doomers and trolls for too long.

  140. Gainsbourg69

    Jabba’s delight: “Delighted Liverpool are spending their cash on Henderson he is no better than Ramsey. Its a major worry that Utd are signing more depth and future quality though. De Gea, Jones, Young and a playmaker makes them significantly better than last year.”

    How would De Gea, Jones and Young make Manure significantly better? Personally, I think Van der Sar’s retirement will weigh heavily on them for the next several seasons, regardless whether De Gea is a promising goalkeeper or not. He was their most important player in the last five years eventhough it was always Rooney, Giggs or Vidic who made the headlines. I can’t even begin to count how many times a brilliant save from Van der Sar kept them alive in tight matches. Not trying to poo-poo on De Gea, who is a good goalkeeper, but going from arguably the world’s best goalkeeper to a player who has never played a game in the EPL is a significant step down in quality.

    Jones is a good player. Whenever I saw him play for the U-21s he always looked composed and tidy. This being said, he is a hoofball player. He was one in the U-21s and he was one at Blackburn. Fergie will have to coach that out of him at all costs before he can make an impact at United. Therefore he’s not an improvement. If anything his transfer means one of Wes Brown, Evans or O’Shea are out.

    Young is not much of an improvement either. He’s a fast winger but wouldn’t offer any type of creative outlet for them up front like Ryan Giggs does. They’ll be ferociously fast down the wings, but not as creative. This means the opposition will be able to put a man on Rooney and their strikers will be starved for service.

  141. Gainsbourg69

    Interesting series indeed, Bill. This back and forth between the Heat and the Mavs is perhaps the most excited I’ve been about basketball for a long time.

    The Heat win in six if Lebron James can stop thinking about fooking Liverpool and starts to play.

  142. Bill@6.51

    Very perceptive post you made there.
    I suppose it really is hard to let go for some. Its all right to discuss changes on an abstract level. But on an individual level, each of our less popular players have been hyped on here (probably as response to the abuse of such players elsewhere) to the extent that letting them go now feels like a personal slap on the face for some supporters.
    I don’t know really. It just feels like its more of an ego thing for some… ‘I believed in this player, ergo he must be awesome. If he turns out to be less than great, then its the fans fault, or the refs, or the establishment, etc etc’.

    On the whole, it makes no real difference if some fans have ego issues. One just hopes Wenger isn’t like that. I prefer to think his tendency to hang on to under-performing players is more out of loyalty rather than refusal to admit mistakes.

  143. goonerton, love your work at McDonalds, but stay the fuck off blogs you thick sod.

  144. Dexter,

    a nice comment to sum up the whole Gallas thread yesterday.

  145. finsbury

    And his Theo commnts earlier too mate.

  146. So, we agreed a fee with Blackburn for Jones, but the lad chose to stay in he North West. Look like we are seriously in he market this cloe season, despite what some doomers would have us believe.

  147. William

    So you are happy with CL qualification and 4th place. Yo must be AW dream. No ambition,always ready to accept second best. How pathetic

  148. Dexter @ 8.44.

    Jones’ loss. According to the Bleeb:

    Tevez: ‘There’s nothing to do in Manchester, there are only two restaurantsy’!

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/13704323.stm

    I’ve been to the great NorthWest conurbation, and I can sympathise with the poor lad (Tevez).
    I don’t know why but something tells me that Tevez might be not be telling the truth here. That he has never ventured very far from Cheshire, and visted Rusholme for example.

  149. <restaurants

  150. Lamia. First off, I was provided my insight into what Kubla Cunt called the demise under Wenger. 2nd, I am happy with being in the Champions League. What fan thinks to themselves, god damnit Wenger you got us into a Champions League spot again!?!Am I completely satisfied with our season? Nope. Not in the slightest. Do i believe we will make a serious title challenge next year? Yes.

  151. *I was providing*

  152. Henristic:

    Who knows, Even though what we say here makes no difference to anyone and has no effect on the real world, pretending that is does is part of what makes blogging so addictive.

    Fans of professional sports clubs have never agreed on anything but the fan civil war that has broken out around this club and the polarizing figure that Arsene has become is beyond anything I have ever seen. As a fan when you have passionately believed and argued one side of the fence for so long it becomes hard to give even a centimeter. I think the boss passionately believes in what he is doing and the strong self belief makes it hard to give up a player he has nutured or anything about the system he has built from the tactics to the training methods, coaches etc etc etc. Will be an interesting summer, hopefully in the end whatever happens it turns out that Arsene does really know best.

  153. G69:

    Not sure where Lebron’s head went last night. I think he will be back with a vengence. If someone made my son’s college fund I would bet it on Miami but I am more hopeful that the Mavs can pull it off. Whatever happens I really hope it goes 7 games. Best final series I have seen for many years. I don’t know if you were around but the 1975 Boston/Cincinati baseball world series has always been my benchmark but this could be very close.

  154. Haha, what a f*cking lunatic.

  155. Its funny how every technical player we are linked with now is suddenly a ready made replacement for “wantaway” Nasri!

  156. OOU

    I presume you were talking about the tiresome little fuckwit known as Cuervo, our resident Barcelona supporting Mexican? An utter numpty who didn’t realise that Mrs YW is Catalan by birth…

    YW

  157. OOU

    Who? Mscerano or Huevo?

  158. More twitter humour

    The top 5 footballers from the 2010-11 season have been announced; Giggs Cort Given Thomas De Koch

  159. Oh the post has gone!

    Yeah, I meant Cuervo. So there’s no point swearing at him in Catalan then? Those guys have some outlandish insults.

  160. BBC Radio Lancaster is reporting that Phil Jones has failed his medical at Utd.

  161. Bob

    No-one else is yet. Nor does anyone seem to know a reason. Squillaci failed his first medical last year and we knocked the fee down from the original asking price. That is the likely outcome.

    YW

  162. Hmmm, some would say he should’ve just failed his medical and we went for a better defender YW!

  163. I never heard that about Squillaci before YW

  164. You never heard abouthis wooden leg Passenal? 😀

  165. It would explain a lot Dexter!

  166. Newcastle have bought a left back so they must be selling us that Enrique Inglasias after we sell Clichy to Inter Milan coz they sold their Lb.

  167. It seems that the readers of this blog continue to mistake criticism for anti-wenger stance. How predictable and pathetic! Today’s signing of the two young defenders by United and Arsenal shows the gulf in approach, ambition and the attractive powers of the two clubs but more understandably, of the two managers. And yet, the supporters of Arsenal dream of signings! I say: dream on under Wenger. It is free and cheap.

    As for you, who calls himself YW, I say: it isn’t my comments here that are embarrassing, it is your stance, the stance you make your juvenile and intellectually compromised readers to share with you. Your “followers” sir, are much like Wenger’s kids himself: feeble and not understanding what reality is.

  168. so is this Phil Jones good then, he must be welsh. Kubla lets wait and see who we sign this summer.

  169. Kubla Khan

    Your post shall remain as a testimony to the never-ending delusional tendencies of mankind. Your criticism is an anti-Wenger stance, you are found guilty by your own words.

    You have posted when evidence has already surfaced today that Arsenal matched United’s bid for Jones.

    Sir, you are a Grade A tit.

    YW

  170. Bill, OOU said: “…our goal has got to be to nurture that kind of partnership. It’s so much more important than spending money. Although I do agree of course that a smart signing or two can reinvigorate any side.”

    You said “Why in the world do those 2 have to be mutually exclusive?”

    I was just wondering if you read the whole sentence because it sounded as though you hadn’t.

    Then you and Henners go into one about doomers, trolls, slaps in the face, letting go, egos and whatever else you go on about.

    AW has said AFC are on the market, so to Gazidis, so to Brady. If you read carefully here on ACLF you’ll see that most of us are pretty excited about that and postulate daily on who we might be in for. So….. remind me again what you two are babbling on about? Are you upset about Phil Jupit… Phil Jones?

  171. Sorry kubla, you can lie to yourself perhaps, but your every post is full of bile and haterd masquerading as well thought out logical analysis.

    Phil Jones chose Unied over Arsenal, jus as Ramsey chose us over United nd Smaaling went to United (but hat one was more to do with United doubling our offer) So your points are baseless and a waste of everyone’s time.

  172. Sorry kubla, you can lie to yourself perhaps, but your every post is full of bile and haterd masquerading as well thought out logical analysis.

    Phil Jones chose Unied over Arsenal, jus as Ramsey chose us over United nd Smaaling went to United (but hat one was more to do with United doubling our offer) So your points are baseless and a waste of everyone’s time. Hope that helps?

  173. Yogi whats happening to my posts mate?

  174. Sorry KK, you can lie to yourself perhaps, but your every post is full of bile and hatred masquerading as well thought out logical analysis. Comparing is signin Jenkinson with United’s attempted signing of Jones shows just how desperate you are to try and create something out of nothing. They are 2 very different transfers. But you know that, you just choose to use it as another tick to beat the man you hate with. Just be honest FFS! There are too many people on here as it is pretending they are smething they arent.

    Phil Jones chose United over Arsenal, just as Ramsey chose us over United So your points are baseless and a waste of everyone’s time. Hope that helps?

  175. Ha! Thats sorted it then

  176. Dexter,

    Wasn’t I sticking to you script?

    You and finsbury can rub bums all night long till morning.

  177. It was an homage to your semi literate prattling about Theo, earlier goonerton. Dont you like it?

  178. Theo, I do love you mate but, can’t count the amount of times I have said out loud “stay the fuck out the media and stick to letting your boots talk”.I happen to know a member of you family in Wiltshire and will try to get a message through to you to shut the fuck up and concentrate on football and changing Wenger’s mind to start you up front where you supposed to be.
    —————————————————
    Just in case you have forgotten, it was this piece of genius prose.

  179. Gainsbourg69

    Kubla Kunt, Jenkins and Jones are both up and coming players. There’s absolutely no difference between what Wenger and Ferguson have bought. Or do you consider a bit part player for Blackburn who also happens to play for a quite mediocre England U-21s to be a huge signing?

    How pathetic of you, blah!

  180. Gainsbourg69

    Alex Ferguson and every other manager in the league is getting ready for the home grown players arm race. That’s why Ferguson has been buying up players like Smalling and Jones. We’ve been set up to meet our homegrown quota for years now. It’s going to be an interesting next few years. I believe Chelsea and Man shitty will have turbulent restructurings as well.

  181. Yeah its no surprise Fergie’s oing for the young expensive English players, as is Dagliesh at Liverpool. Its gonna result in Engloish players being even more over priced.

  182. All this time I though you were the genius.
    fuck.

  183. Nasir Jones-Nasri

    Kubla Khan,

    Go see a doctor as soon as possible. You need some help. And fast.

    Bill loves the supposed “civil war”doesn’t he? Look at how many words he uses there without even scratching the surface of the issue. You expect Wenger loyalists/fans of the beautiful game to listen to Monday Morning Quarterbacks like yourself and Jabbas Delights whose ideas about football are negative and boring not to mention the fact that you havent worked half a day in (European) football. We fucking get it already, Bill, a complete change in philosophy and tactics or else we have to keep listening to your broken record. I’d rather win our way without selling out, you’d rather see us turn into Man U lite and win at all costs. Which I find disgusting, I might add.

  184. Dexter | June 8, 2011 at 11:50 pm

    What’s has happened to your arrogant upper class post?
    Could be some working class Mac Ds employee hacked you or something.

  185. Wenger and the board out!

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