Theo’s KO, Aaron’s OK And Other Gossip

Whilst Bugs and Daffy continue their eternal argument over whether it is Duck or Wabbit season, the media have decided that this week is open season on Theo Walcott. Well, it has been for quite a while with the abuse raining in on his head. As quickly as the media has built him up, they were waiting patiently to knock him down. That hat-trick in Zagreb must seem a lifetime ago.

That Capello did not include Walcott is not entirely surprising. Wright-Phillips and Lennon are more orthodox wingers; Walcott is a central striker in waiting, taking his footballing education on the right flank. They have better delivery from wide positions and this is apparently what Capello wants, not a player adept at passing through defences. He wants someone to hug the touchline; that is not Walcott’s game. If reports are to be believed, the recent friendlies saw Walcott play himself out of the squad.

Martin Keown was less dismissive in his criticism of Walcott than Chris Waddle – ‘no footballing brain‘ – or Paul Merson – ‘he has not improved one iota since joining Arsenal‘ – but biting nonetheless:

He runs at a frightening pace, he is rapid, but when he gets into those positions he is not able to think quickly enough, does he pull it back, does he shoot or does he go on his own? His decision making is the problem, he hasn’t been able to do that.

Under Capello it seemed as if he has been getting it right in the main, under Wenger, no, there has been a problem, whether or not that is the coaches’ fault, it has to be the players, he has just not played enough games.

It is hard to understand Keown’s logic. He is normally far better informed about players than the last sentence suggests. Quite simply, you cannot play if you are not fit. Walcott was screwed over by the selfish motives of Pearce and Capello last summer and is paying the price now.

The criticism of Wenger albeit tempered, fits with the media profile of the Arsenal coach. To blame him for injuries caused through overplaying is a bit rich, especially when he very vocally ciriticised the England set-up for the decision to call Walcott into the Under-21 and senior squad last summer. Those exertions limited the player to 15 starts (and 15 substitute appearances) in 2009/10; hardly proof of fitness.

That is not to say Keown is incorrect in his assessment of Walcott:

He has become a bit of a one-trick pony in terms of going for the line. People just double up on him.  When he has got time and space then he finds it a problem and he has got to sort that out with his game.

Walcott’s judgement is at times suspect yet he is 21 years old and has made 75 starts (plus 61 substitute appearances). To expect that aspect of his game to be perfect is incredibly naive. Problematically, Walcott came with great expectations and the burden of a huge price tag.

Add into that mix the folly of inclusion in the 2006 squad and constant pronouncements by successive England managers that Theo is the most naturally gifted English player of his generation, the snowball effect had built. Underpar performances for the national team over the past two years in the eyes of the media have meant the slow burning fires of disenchantment were gradually heating. The flames roared into life in the past fortnight but opinion was divided.

He has to pick himself up for next season. From a selfish point of view, Arsene will not be disappointed, knowing that Walcott will be fit for a full pre-season, motivated by this disappointment to show the world how good he really is. If the latter is an issue, then there is a problem. Nothing so far suggests that will be the case.

Looking at the rest of the squad, some surprise that Ledley King was recalled noting his well-reported injury problems, the question must be if he can sustain his fitness but most of the defence is adaptable and can play elsewhere, Cole, Warnock and Johnson the exceptions.

In midfield and attack, few surprises. Carrick’s inclusion is as back up for Barry should his fitness fail whilst Joe Cole has apparently been a shining light since the training camp began in Austria. As ever, no solution has been found for Gerrard and Lampard other than playing the former out of position.

Four strikers, four you could have named six months ago. Darren Bent may have scored regularly for his club but the absence of any of the big four trying to sign him when he was available sums up his level; good but not international quality. Heskey does not score enough but is favoured as a partner by Rooney and every England forward before him.

England will hold no surprises this summer. For anyone. Which means a probably quarter final exit.

Elsewhere, apparently another bright young thing is being readied for a loan. Francis Coquellin will be part of a deal to bring Laurent Koscielny to The Emirates, the Arsenal youngster to be sent to France for one season as a replacement is sought for William Gallas whose contract has apparently run its course.

No doubt there will be criticism this morning that Aaron Ramsey has been offered a new contract with his injury still some way to go before recovery. Not too sure why that will be a problem but given he is seen as a long-term replacement for Cesc, and the rest of the squad had new contracts last summer, surely it is better to keep him into the pattern of reward?

They have not stopped and Cheerleader-in-Chief, Xavi, thinks that he is some sort of Seer, as if repeating what the media say gives him some divine insight although they now think it will be well beyond the World Cup before any deal is done although I do wish this one was written by R.Sole instead.

’til Tomorrow.

Posted on June 2, 2010, in Arsenal, Football, Premier League, Premiership, Soccer, Transfer Gossip, World Cup 2010 and tagged , , , , , . Bookmark the permalink. 190 Comments.

  1. with evidence to proof too :p

  2. Glad to see that Rambo has been given a new contract, an expression of the board’s faith in him is good. I still think he will be immense when he’s back. Theo’s exclusion was a surprise for me, since SWP isn’t all too impressive. Adam Johnson played well, he’ll be good at 2012 Euro. Great article!

  3. An expression of Arsene Wenger’s faith in him is more likely. The Arsenal board are not involved in the process are they?

  4. top 8 getting closer

  5. From the previous blog comments…

    I have the same problem, Passenal, Big Al.

    Somehow we need to change the England setup from within so that we produce football at a national level of which we can be proud.

    I always thought that Theo was the foot in the door…..I suspect that he has been left out for other than footballing reasons.

  6. Walcott left out and the entire media seems over the moon.

    How many days before they all come down on Capello for leaving out the match winning option from the bench? End of the first round? second round? quarter final maybe?

  7. Those people in the press are so weired.

    They say Walcott is a one trick poney with no footballing brain and hasn’t improve one iota but when he scored that hat trick he was the next big thing after Owen and Rooney.

    It seems that they really want him to be the player to improve the National team but because he’s an Arsenal player, they just can’t praise him as their contract ask for an Arsenal thrashing per day.

    Well at least we’ll have quiet a few players well rested for next season with the likes of Walcott, Arshavin, TV, Nasri, Chamack, denilson, Djourou,… all looking the world cup at home, hoping they will benefit from it andperform well next season for Arsenal.

  8. “HARRY REDKNAPP fears that Tottenham target Joe Cole has already decided to join another club.
    The Chelsea midfielder, 28, could leave Stamford Bridge this summer having failed to agree a new deal.

    And Redknapp, who launched Cole’s career at West Ham, would love to sign him on a free transfer.

    But the Spurs boss said: “I’m a big fan but I have a feeling he’s already agreed a deal with someone else.”

    sorry for posting the name Harry Redknapp on this blogg!!!!

  9. thesun says that Capello dropped Theo because in both freindlies he didn’t hog the touchline like he was told to!

  10. Gutted for Theo, he deserved his place, played his part in the qualifiers only to be dropped out for SWP who has barely featured for City or England.

    Capello was apparently fuming at Theo after the Mexico game, had a go at him in the dressing room in front of everyone too – again this is from thesun so I can’t guarantee the validity of this. The national team has plagued his career so far, I think he should quit and focus on Arsenal, that would get the press off his case!

  11. I heard a rumour that in training Theo couldnt put a cross on Peter Crouch’s head, Theo is not a winger he is a striker, potentially the best striker in England

  12. There are lots of good teams in the World Cup, but England isn’t one of them. When Theo sees how badly they perform, I suspect he’ll be glad he was left at home.

  13. It’s a travesty that he wasn’t included in a depressingly below par England outfit.

    Hopefully this is the catalyst to push him to new hights.

    Wenger will know what to say, Theo will get a proper pre-season, and I suspect that he will make his impact early.

    England played football once under Capello and that was in Zagreb. They will all get found out very quickly.

  14. LimparAssist

    Joe Cole to Man United would make sense; no outlay for a club short on sheckles, big club so Cole is happy, and he offers a different line of attack from inside right if Valencia’s out-and-out wingplay isn’t working.

    But he also makes sense at Arsenal too… London boy, technically skillful, we like ’em cheap too, MASSIVE club, and he could play wide left or wide right for us.

    …having said that, he’s probably being shown around Steven Gerrard’s house as we speak, tip-toeing so as not to disturb Mrs Gerrard as she drapes herself over the sofa to watch Spanish Rosetta Stone DVDs on the plasma.

  15. Poliziano – from an Arsenal perspective, I won’t be too dissapointed to see England get knocked out early on as much as I want them to do well. I suspect quite a few thousand travelling fans will realise dropping Theo was a big mistake. As I said yesterday also, there are many piss poor players in the team, and others who I have no respect for.

    Anyway, I can see Theo kicking on from this now, this can only be used as a motivation to improve and prove people wrong.

  16. There never was a place for Theo in this England squad. The squad does not have enough quality. At least two players, Rooney and Gerrard showed open disdain towards him in the last two games.

    Capello has worked with this squad for many months now and all he has come up with is table football. Two banks of four and a big bloke or Wayne Rooney and his servant up front. Rigid, disciplined, dull beyond belief. Capello’s way….or ship out.

    Theo shipped out. He would not toe the line. Capello could not accept that.

    Theo is only going to shine in a creative, attack minded outfit. He needs a run of games with a full strength Arsenal squad. He will be a great player for Arsenal and for England. In the latter case it won’t happen before the old guard and Capello are gone.

  17. Perhaps Capello realised there is no place for a pearl in the England dung heap.

  18. Walcott was not a regular starter for us.That shows even Wenger didnt have complete faith in him.There are even Gooners on here who said they would rather have Eboue on the right side instead of Theo.And thats from Arsenal fans!!!!And he just hasnt progressed over the last 18 months.Pace alone is not enough Perry Groves was quick.Theo needs to learn to think about what he is doing.Maybe do what we did with Jack loan him out for a season

  19. Limpar

    Im a bit mixed over the Joe Cole situation – if we are going for him. I don’t see him as a player worth 100k a week, or even 80k. Hes not been Chelsea’s biggest player, hes a kind of luxury player.. which we have many!

    If Cesc goes.. I would like someone to come in who will orchestrate through the middle. Ramsey’s setback is cruel, Denilson is a decent player but not on Cesc’s level yet, Diaby is impressive but inconsistent to rely on him, Song is Mr reliable, but our holding player. Nasri could be the answer… we just need someone to dictate the play who is technically gifted and proven. This is all speculating on if Cesc leaves.. (hate to keep saying it: my personal opinions is hes staying as Barca won’t cough up)

    Cole for me wouldn’t be the answer, we don’t need him, but if we can bring him in as another option then would be a good move, while keeping Cesc!

  20. If Capello wants his wingers to just hug the line, I can see England going out in the second round or the quarter final.

    They havenot noticed, but football has moved ahead.

  21. Not being included in this England party will be the making of Theo Walcott.

  22. Frank, I agree with you. Once England make their exit in the world cup 2nd round, he will get a massive injection of confidence with the nation baying for Capello’s blood for not having picked a match winner in the form of Theo.

    If he was in the party, the opposite would have happened.

  23. In fact the more I think about it the more relieved I am that Theo is not in Capello’s squad.

  24. Oh yeah CG, he’s a million miles away from a Cesc replacement. But if he could temper his extravagant Chelsea wage demands to meet a more reasonable offer from us – in return for Champions League football and all the other joys of being an Arsenal player – then I think he’d be a useful squad player. I can’t really see it happening… I’m just saying.

  25. Frank

    I have the same feeling, at least they can’t blame Theo when we get knocked out now.

    I find it hilarious how people are criticising Theo’s performance against Mexico once again, I thought he was one of our better players. I didn’t catch the Japan game, I can’t handle 2 meaningless International friendlies featuring England within the same week!

  26. Keown’s been misquoted there. I heard it live and he actually said

    “He runs at a frightening pace, he is rapid, but when he gets into those positions he is not able to think quickly enough, does he pull it back, does he shoot or does he go on his own?It’s like his feet are too quick for his brain

    ie he goes too fast to make a decent decision when he does get to the line. Keown then said if he slowed himself down by 10% then he would give himself the time to make the right decision and that would come with more playing time and maturity.

  27. Second that.

  28. Limpar

    I would welcome him if it happened, he is one player from Chelsea I wouldn’t mind taking.

    Essien being another

  29. frank @10.07 that is.

  30. Rooney’s tantrum must have lead to a post match bitching of Theo after the Mexico game.

    The United scum got him booted out.

  31. theo always picks up injuries with england so fuck it

    a reminder for anyone who is interested…

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  32. Theo only has himself to blame, should have listen to Arsene. He has simply been used and dumped by the Fa set-up, perhaps he’ll finally realise where his priorities and loyalty should lie. On a positive note, he won’t be around Terry et al.

  33. The press calling walcott a one trick pony is rich bearing in mind england are hardly cutting edge and orthodox in their formation. England have been a one trick pony for years. And look how many trophies weve won. Exactly. Going for the standard heskey. FFS. How many long balls are Engalnd hoping to lob to Hesky against well drilled defences like Germany, Brazil, Portugal, Italy to name a few. England will be lucky to reach the quarters. Nuff said

    for arsenal and theo this could be a blessing in disguise. the guy cant win. if England lost he was likely to be a scapegoat. He can now focus on his game and reach maximum match fitness and help spearhead our assault on silverware.

  34. It would seem to me that cappelo did really want to take theo so gave him enough playing time to prove his form. It might have come down to the squad dynamics as cappello did say that would be a big factor. Not great for morale to have a red faced rooney shouting scouse and pointing the finger at you.

    I’m happy he is not going to be in the firing line although I think he could have pulled out some special performances given the chance.

  35. Fuc* the national team, England don’t deserve to have Theo playing for them

  36. I hope England don’t make it oyut of their group.
    How can anyone honestly expect Walcott to perform decently and consistantly with that much pressure, expectation and media scrutiny?

  37. chrisGoona
    I wouldn’t say that about the National team,I and I think a lot of fans, would always put his club before his country but the world cup is an amazing competition to watch and I imagine even more great to play it!

    It is a shame a few arsenal players got the diappointment of being left out from their respective national team (ie Nasri and Walcott) the experience gained from this kind of event is enormous but it will be good as well as it is a message that thay have to work hard to fullfill the expectation that comes from their great talent.

  38. The press are only making a hoo har about Theo
    to set up the next story.
    Capello the tactical genius or Capello gets it wrong.
    The more they jump up and down now the bigger the fuss then………

  39. some people I know would give me a proper ear full if I said fuck the national team but then the same people have given up watching england friendlies because they are so boring. There is nothing quite like the WC though so I will be in the pub getting caught up with the atmosphere of the england games hoping they win… however lifeless and embarrassing they may be.

  40. Alex Ice Cream

    I don’t like England anyway but I am not surprised that Theo has not been selected. I know that he has been injured but let’s be honest he hasn’t done much in the 4 years that he has been with Arsenal.

  41. England widemen PL 09-10 dribble success: Milner 33%, Walcott 34%, SWP 42%, Gerrard 42%, Lennon 47%, A Johnson 48%, J Cole 61%

    Interestingly Theo was at exactly 50% for the same stat last season. The under-21 tournament has cost him dear, as AW rightly predicted.

  42. Alex Ice Cream

    Yogi,

    I don’t agree about the point you made about Pearce and the u21s. Theo should have told Pearce where to go which is what Wenger wanted him to do. Instead Theo had his head full of the world cup and didn’t want to upset the England set up. His injury situation is at least partly self-inflicted.

    All we heard from Theo this year is world cup blah, blah. Even Wenger got annoyed at reporters asking about Theo and the world cup.

    Theo should concentrate on his football with Arsenal where he has done little to justify his large transfer fee and wages.

  43. A FEW DAYS AGO AT THE ENGLAND TRAINING CAMP

    [Fabio Capello’s office. Capello is sitting at his desk. Steven Gerrard and Wayne Rooney enter.]

    Rooney: Boss.

    Gerrard: Boss!

    Capello: Yes, boys. What is it that I can do for you?

    Rooney: It’s about Theo, boss.

    Capello: Ah, Theo! Magnificent player! Did you see the way he…

    Rooney and Gerrard: YES, YES…but the problem is…

    Capello: Mamma mia! He’s not injured, is he?

    Rooney: No.

    Capello: Well what’s the problem then?

    Gerrard: [Looking towards Rooney, then down at his feet.] The problem is, he makes us look like a pair of lumbering twats.

    Capello: [Chuckling] Well, son. Forgive me for stating the obvious, but you are…

    Rooney and Gerrard: YES, YES…

    Rooney: You know that…

    Gerrard: We know that…

    Rooney and Gerrard: But we don’t want everyone to know.

    Capello: Okay. This could be a case of – how you say? – closing the stable door after the horse has bolted, but what do you suggest?

    Rooney: We want you to drop him from the squad.

    Capello: Drop Theo? Drop our best player?

    Gerrard: That’s right. Otherwise, neither of us will go to South Africa.

    Capello: Well, Steven. I doubt we’d miss you much. I’m not sure whether you’ll play anyway. But you, Wayne – you might not be up to much, but you’re our only striker.

    Rooney: That’s right, boss.

    Gerrard: It’s him or us.

    Capello: It seems you leave me no choice. I’ll have to leave you both behind.

    Rooney: But boss!

    Gerrard: Boss!

    Capello: Sorry, boys, but I won’t be blackmailed.

    Rooney: But you’ll have to play Emile up front.

    Capello: Emile?

    Gerrard: That’s right, boss.

    Rooney: Seven goals in fifty-eight games.

    Capello: Porca miseria! I suppose I’ll have to drop Theo after all…but I won’t forget this.

  44. na Alex Ice Cream….he hasnt done much.

    Exept those 2 full field runs against liverpool resulting in goals.

    The assist for the second goal in the historic win against Milan at the San Siro.

    Brilliant goals in the CC final and FA Cup semi against Chelsea.

    the exquisite chip against Villa Real in the qf of champions league when the tie was still in the ballance.

    Brought us back to life with a goal against Barca.

    Ooh and assisted Bendtners goal in the Camp Nou.

    And a few others but there not worth mentioning Alex Ice Cream because the boy has offered nothing.

  45. Alex Ice Cream

    deano,

    That’s not much for 4 years work and millions in transfer fees and wages. Anelka at 18 did more in half a season than that although to be fair Anelka played in a far better team.

    Even the pass to Bendtner in the Camp Nou was behind him and made the finish far more difficult than it should have been.

  46. Good post Yogi. The English team isn’t good enough to win anything, leave alone the World Cup. Maybe when the Wilshere generation come of age will they be taken seriously. Interestingly Theo is the leader of the next generation. The youngest player in the present squad is 23. Theo is only 21, at 23 he should be immense. He said that Capello told him he’d use him in the European cup! England reminds me of Spain before the present generation – they were rubbish! But then the hard work began to pay off. And who knows when the hard work being put in by the likes of wenger and Trevor Brooking begins to pay off they may have no need for a maturing Rooney as Spain has no need for the mature Raul!

  47. Bravo Poliziano

    It sounds about right.

  48. Alex Ice Cream. Anelka peaked at 18! I’d rather Theo peaks at 26.

  49. To add insult to injury, Stuart Pearce is likely to pick Walcott for the next U-21 squad. And as naive as he is, he’ll most likely say how proud he is donning an England shirt, even at U-21 level. Walcott is just too nice.

  50. Furious Styles

    Bad for Theo this, the experience of playing under pressure alongside lot of grown ups would’ve done him good I reckon. The kid needs all the games he can get if he’s going to progress and a WC is no bad place to get those games.

    Also I’ve noticed he seems to have put on quite a bit of muscle the last year or two but he still needs to learn to actually use his newfound weight and power to his advantage.

  51. Alex Ice Cream

    Kenyan,

    Anelka peaked at 19 and he did have Dennis Bergkamp setting him up so I take the point.

  52. AIC

    Perhaps you could name any other player who has refused to compete in a Finals tournament for England at Under-21s so that he play in a World Cup qualifier with the senior squad?

    I can’t think of one.

    Capello takes the flak for this one. He is Pearce’s boss and having allowed him to pick Walcott, he is knowledgeable enough to be able to realise the potential for injuries.

    However, as an international boss he could not care less about club football unless they are going to be his next employers.

    YW

  53. Walcott vs. the defenders of ’98-’99 would’ve been absolutely devastating.

  54. Who will history absolve? ACLFers or the assorted members of the English press who have all united in conventional wisdom behind Capello vs Walcott. (The one thing that strikes me in the coverage is the defensiveness about Capello, as if his or the FA’s PR people have been busy at work.) In no particular order:

    “…. the Arsenal winger who caused such a stir when he made Sven-Goran Eriksson’s squad four years ago as a 17-year-old can have few complaints at being dumped from England’s current World Cup plans as the squad was trimmed to 23. – Frank Malley, SUNDERLAND ECHO

    “Capello is paid £5m-plus a season to apply his considerable wisdom to these dilemmas. His record says hard logic will have been applied to the dumping of Johnson and Walcott.” – Paul Hayward, THE GUARDIAN

    “England’s manager has made some questionable choices recently, flirting with the Capello Index and not instantly rejecting Inter Milan’s eyelash-fluttering, but the distinguished Italian cannot, and should not, be taken to task over Walcott.” – Henry Winter, TELEGRAPH

    “By dumping Theo Walcott, however, Capello reconfirmed that in matters on he pitch, at least, he is as sharp and stern as ever….It was also the correct call.” – John Dillon, DAILY EXPRESS

  55. “the defenders of ’98-’99” = Premier League defences circa ’98-’99…

    …not like The Defenders of the Universe.

  56. I’ve never really rated Capello but tbh I’ve been surprised how much game time he gave Walcott in the recent friendlies, given his less than stellar form for Arsenal this season due to injuries. Capello must really have wanted to include him in the squad, otherwise why play him so often?

    But then the only role I could see Walcott playing for England was as impact sub, which makes the fact that Capello has been playing him as a starter a little daft imo.

  57. Next season is really important for Theo, he’s got to show he can rise from this. There’s only so much Wenger can do about lifting his confidence imo. If he didn’t listen to wenger about playing for the U21s, why would he listen now?

    He’s got to show people he’s as good as he says. This will not be an easy task, as many defenders are now well aware of his abilities and can easily mark him out of the game. He’s got to adapt his game. I sense if he doesn’t improve on the wings, he’s never gonna get to be a striker for arsenal seeing the options we have in that department.

  58. watch the media U-turn when england get thrashed by who-ever and Capello fucks off to Inter.

    I get the feeling that the extra dimension that Walcott offers England will all of a sudden be acknowledged.

  59. I’ve just read Xavi’s comment about Cesc wanting to move to Barca

    “Xavi, speaking after training alongside Fábregas in the build-up to Spain’s World Cup campaign, said he expects the transfer to be completed: “Yes, certainly, and it also had to be like this.

    “Two years ago, I said Cesc would end up playing for Barcelona, and now it is clearer than ever. He has also expressed publicly that he wants to come to Barcelona and when a player wants to move to some place he ends up going. It is clear that Cesc will come to Barcelona.”

    Have I missed something? Did Cesc at any time state publicly he’d like to go to Barca? Why would he let his teamates make these sort of statement unchallenged?

  60. Furious Styles

    Deano

    what does walcott offer that lennon and/or swp doesnt offer? Honestly curious, I dont know them as players very well, all I know is they’re fast. like theo.

  61. Chill out some of you! Walcott being left out of the squad is not a personal afront to Walcott or some northern conspiracy against Arsenal.
    I can’t see someone like Capello being swayed by what some loud mouth northern monkeys in the team have to say.
    I can see why Walcott has been left out, despite his obvious talent and potential he hasn’t had the greatest of seasons really.
    He still has plenty of time to develop and this rejection could really spur him on to greater things. Let’s hope so.

  62. Haha! Song nutmegged was brilliant. Ole!

  63. Theo is not quite in full form so I dont really take great offense, if anything this is largely good news for arsenal fans. I guess people are still licking their wounds over the anti arsenal media spin… I don’t think it will knock his confidence and it may even inspire him to work harder.

    In fact I think I would have rather seen johnson go instead of theo and SWP as he is naturally left footed, in good form and adds something different… but thats just me.

  64. soory BigM

    I have to agree with Furious Styles… Theo has more to offer than the other 2 players. Lennon has had a better season for Spurs, Theo has been injured. But Wright Phillips hasn’t played at all, and hasn’t really impressed at all when he has played.

    Why play Theo in so many friendlies and qualifiers, using the lad along the way, making him believe he is part of the setup, then dump him on the final cut.

    It is very cruel, and I really feel for the lad, especially after being tagged along last time then scrutinised for being taken by Sven !

  65. Furious Styles

    For a start he’s a better finisher, he works harder defensivley, his final ball is nowhere near as bad as people make out.

    And he’s fast-er than SWP and Lennon.

  66. Well, it looks like Cesc is gone.

  67. If that is true, I won’t be too pleased after hearing PHW saying we will not enter negotiations for Cesc.

  68. @deano

    massive VID…. boy those boys could play. The ball moves so fast.. is that Djourou, RVP Song Eboue and Theo..? can see who the rest are, but they are sooo Fluid on the ball. Almost like using their hands..

  69. they will enter negotiations out of respect for fabregas because (cover your eyes now) he does clearly want to go which is why he said it is now in arsenes hands.

    this does not mean at all that he will definately go because arsene will not accept any deal that leaves us up shit creek.

    If all they have is 40m or so then I could see this happening with a player coming the other way… I just really hope we dont accept one of barcas throw away players. Again this could quite easily hinder the deal unless arsene can see some potential we dont know about.

  70. BBC is the second most reliable source after the official Arsenal website.

    I would point out they they havnt reported on any of the speculation over Cesc in anything other than the gossip column up until now, so its a depressing indication of there being truth in it.

    I hope this is all over and done with as soon as possible. I hope Arsenal get the right price.

    I hope that Barca suffer financially and that Mourinho destroys them in the league next year…secures the premira leage title at the Nou Camp mathematicaly AND runs onto the pitch to cellebrate again this time in his swimming trunks.

    I then hope Carles Puyol and Xavi slip because of the sprinklers being turned on and fall face first into the goal posts.

  71. Arsenalkabisa

    I know! and you know you have to be damn good to keep the ball away from Song when he’s that close. Yeah Djourou, Eboue, RvP..

    Great team spirit on show aswell.

  72. deano

    http://search.bbc.co.uk/search?go=toolbar&q=cesc

    plenty of Cesc rumours on the BBC, sorry mate

  73. CG

    You believe anything Hill-wood says? Remember what he said about Kroenke

  74. “Barcelona director Joan Oliver: “Everyone knows Cesc wants to play for Barca and that we want to sign him, but there’s a 3rd party: Arsenal”

    The player’s club is just a mere 3rd party. What utter shite…..such arrogance. Unbearable really.

  75. ChrisGoona,

    Yes but it’s clearly labled Gossip.

    I start to worry when its in the official news column not the gossip collumn that other publications pass off as official news.

  76. Hark

    I never take much notice to his comments, but he seemed pretty adament we would not negotiate. I’d rather PHW kept his mouth closed regarding team matters, he always lands himself or us in the shi*.

  77. From an Arsenal standpoint, Theo’s exclusion has to be a positive, right? No risk of injury (unless he hurts himself golfing this summer) and a source for motivation to improve.

    Here’s the thing, though. Wouldn’t last season have been a perfect opportunity to play Theo up front? RvP was hurt most of the season and it seemed like Arsene had no belief in Vela and Eduardo after awhile. Instead of having Bendtner all alone up front, why not take the opportunity at hand to move Theo to striker?

    Joe Cole – if he comes in, I guess this means the end of the line in London for Rosicky, right?

  78. deano

    Yes, lets just wait and see what happens.. if it’s true maybe Joe Cole is in talks with us.

  79. We will get £40m for Cesc.Barcelona have sat back and let things develop while its been us releasing all the denials in the press.Because they knew they have been in the driving seat all along Nothing less than £80m was the total coming from the club

  80. Lets not blame PHW.

    What he has or hasn’t said is largley inconsequential. At least he wants what is best for the club… and he wants respect for the club, even if he is guilty of being a bit tactless sometimes.

    One thing PHW dosent indulge in is vile courtship of other teams players and express disregard bordering on contempt for other clubs.

  81. Does anyone else think Rosicky can have a big part to play next season?

  82. I don’t want to see Rosicky leave but I suspect Wenger is maybe analysing whether its best, hes a talented footballer with experience who could yet recapture some decent form – tricky one.

    So many IF’s in our team with players returning from injuries.. its a shame our season was yet again ruined.

    Eduardo
    Rosicky
    Djourou
    Ramsey
    Walcott
    Gibbs

    all badly affected. Theres Van Persie too, but he looks to have come back ok.

  83. 40m is not enough.

    May sound like a nice figure, but we should really play hard ball with them.

    We have a player with 5 years left on his contract! Best CM around, our topscorer, our captain and our soul. If Arsenal accepts 40m we are a bunch of mugs.

  84. Add Clichy and Denilson to that list for long periods, Arshavin on and off constantly our injury list last season was nothing short of miraculous

    A bad miraculous, mind.

  85. Better yet, we should start a bidding war with Real and City. There are probably a few more clubs interested in Cesc.

    Lets do a deal that will benefit Arsenal, not fucking Cesc

  86. I agree 55-65 mil minimium. I suspect we will get that. Wenger is no mug and he will not take this lying down.

    He must be dissapointed and livid in equal measure at the way this has all happened.

  87. That BBC link pretty much seals it for me. I’m resigned to this happening before the World Cup. Wondering if Wenger will insist on having that young Ukrainian centre back Barca paid 20+ for in the deal. If it does happen, I guess I will like how the pundits will all be underestimating Arsenal yet again.

  88. I agree 40M is peanuts for a player like cesc! The bbc says we are holding for double the amount so 60M which sounds a bit better even though it kills me to think he might not be with us next season!

  89. CG,
    And heaven knows how many more casualties the world cup will bring given our luck with injuries.

  90. Hear Hear CG. However I worry that Wenger may have already promised him his move to Barca!

  91. YW,

    “An informal conversation with Arsenal became formal on 1 June and now an official approach has been made to the club,” said a Barca spokesman.

    That’s all that it says. I don’t understand it quite well. They’ve made a formal approach now. Does that mean we’ve entered the negotiations or just made notice of their official approach?

    To me it seems nothing really has changed, since they’ve just made a formal offer for him. Doesn’t mean we’ve entered into negotiations over price or anything of that sort.

    “I don’t think there is a special advance on, say, the price or anything, but it has moved on now.”

    It seems that they have moved on from being pricks who have been tapping up our player to making a formal bid. Means nothing.

  92. gunnerluc

    I am just dissapointed he dreams for playing such a bunch of cu*ts. Fuc* their history, and fuc* their trophies. Ain’t a better team to play for than Arsenal.

    I understand Wenger letting players go who want to leave, but, some of them really regret it. Henry, Hleb… Vieira probably does as well, so too Pires. Anelka. Cole seems ok with the fat pay cheque he picks up, plus hes out on the piss every night with scum like Terry. Apart from him Cesc will be a part of the players who thought grass was greener on the other side.

  93. Id actualy like us to get 70 million plus Messi and a contract that requires La Porta to give Moureen a lapdance with boobie tassels on, at the Bernabeu should Real win the league.

  94. ARSENAL… tell them to F-OFF

    Will make me sick watching them get their grubby hands on Cesc.

  95. I like the idea Deano but I prefer not to watch the lap-dance.

  96. ChrisGoona.

    I know, it hurts me to think of it….but whats even more hurtfull is the fact that Cesc wants their hands all over him.

  97. Whether Cesc is going or not I would not put faith in BBC Sport. Their Sports Editor until recently was Mihir Bose…well-known incompetent hack and Spud.

  98. deano

    As much as playing for Barcelona will be a dream come true to Cesc.. doesn’t he want more to win a trophy at Arsenal.. being the captain of our fine club, doesn’t he want to have something to look back on..? Just don’t make sense why he would want to leave at this stage.

    After watching his team mates get their legs broken, our players and club being constantly slagged off in the press… doesn’t he want the last laugh and a trophy to cap off his Arsenal career.

    It just don’t add up to me.

  99. dupsffokcuf

    Na we can send an official to verify that it happend…..And the tassels MUST be the proud Catalan colours of Barca.

  100. …it was the BBC who misreported the Beveren Affair.

  101. Note that the news is all coming from one direction at the moment – Barca. The fact they have now made a formal offer indicates nothing – other than their intention to sign Cesc is credible.

    I think they hope they can do this on the cheap by making the offer public (though not mentioning the amount) and thereby pressuring Arsenal.

    We have a good record of getting players for less than they are worth and selling for more then they are worth. In the case of Cesc it would be very surprising to see him sold for less then £50M – this is in keeping with current prices.

    I suspect Barca do not have, or will not pay the money. there seems to be a certain amount of Catalan arrogance here (as they though are just taking back rightful property).

    And so I still believe there is a decent chance Wenger will dig his heels in and say NO and just explain to Fab he wants one more year minimum and if he still wants to go then the price will be the same but he will be free to go.

    Regardless I do not envisage there being a situation where Fab is allowed to leave without commensurate remuneration.

  102. CG

    I went through this a couple of days after the rumours first came out and he didnt take the oppurtunity to rubbish them. Clichy does it on the regular. “Thanks but no thanks Madrid, Barca, Im happy at Arsenal.”

    It hurts because we overestimated his charater and his intelligence. As I’ve ranted before it hurts because he is representative of what Wenger is trying to achieve at Arsenal. Something very special. This is a public undermining of Arsenal football club by Cesc Fabregas and Barcellona.

    To think he kissed the badge this season. Pffft.

  103. The BBC story is that Barcelona have now openly admitted that they have sent a fax to Arsenal. Big deal.

    The only interesting piece of information in this sorry tale is that Cesc could not find the courage to state that he is an Arsenal player and not for sale…..

    For that alone I have lost all respect for the player. When he goes he will be in the same box as Cashley as far as I am concerned.

  104. I went to check what they say in the spanish press (marca and elmundodeportivo) and all those pricks are already saying it’s done deal and that the Barca 2011 will look like that:

    Valdes- Alves Puyol abidal – cesc xavi iniesta- Robben- villa-messi

    1st they really don’t know football if they want to put cesc as a DM!
    second I don’t see how they could spend 34M for villa, at least 50M-60M for cesc and another 30-40M for Robben with already more than 60M debts!
    Those guys do live in a sureal world where Euro notes grow in trees.

  105. missed pique

  106. Frank,

    Even if he stays, he’s still a prick.

    Arsene hasn’t really kept players who wanted to leave unless the club deemed it necessary for them to stay, due their importance over the team. I doubt it would be any different with Cesc. If Arsene has a good replacement in mind, he’d offload the fucker. If not, he’ll keep him for another season until a replacement is found.

  107. Possitives

    We still have our best player; Van Persie, who loves this club.

    We have an exciting new signing in Chamakh who has been criminaly over shadowed by this Cesc Barca bollocks.

    Walcott, Rosicky, Eduardo will all benefit from a summer break and proper pre-season.

    We have some new signings to look forward to soon!

    The future is bright.

  108. I wouldn’t go as far as calling him a Cashley, and I won’t be looking at his performances and wishing him well like I have been with Thierry Henry. I just will not be able to hold any respect for the guy if he leaves. This move would show a lack of respect to the captaincy, us fans, the club and Wenger who put his faith in him.

    He embarked on a project with us, and is the engine room of our team. Jumping ship means hes a quitter who deserves no respect.

  109. thanks deano I just had a beautiful mental image of jose and ronaldo partying on the grass of the nou camp with beach balls and swimming trunks because barca turned on the sprinklers early again!

    very much looking forward to jose probing the arrogance of barca next year. He can start by making a 70m offer for cesc!

  110. In my opinion Barcelona are acting like the complete arseholes they are because Cesc gave them the green light. If he had not informed them that he wanted to move then he would have made that clear over the last couple of weeks and the story is ended until the next transfer window.

    I doubt if Arsenal will hold out for silly money. £30-40m is most likely. That gives Arsenal a number of possibilities. I think the signing of Aaron to a longer term contract is a very significant move.

  111. I feel sad, but dropping theo is the right decision whether england do anything at the world cup or not.

    I had always hoped desperately that theo would become an established english player at arsenal. But in my heart of hearts, watching him play for the last 4 years, I had always suspected that he was never going to be the world class player that we all expected him to be.

    I think he will turn into a decent player with years by his side but will be nowhere near world class. He is another overhyped english player (sigh) who has been built up to be way better than he is.

    li’l jack’s emergence has softened the blow to me personally. He already looks twice the player that theo is and even if he lacks experience you can clearly see REAL QUALITY when you watch him play. Our team desperately needs a bit of local flavour and yes, jack is the hope of arsenal.

    If cesc goes, I dont think we should buy a replacement, just give jack the role and let him grow with us. We have thrown so many raw youngsters into the deep end to learn the hard way, so why not do it with jack as well.

    He will make mistakes but then rooney became the player he is because everton gave him his chances. So bring on Jack!

    Cheers all!

  112. I don’t begrudge Cesc wanting to leave. Its his boyhood club and he trained through their academy. Wouldn’t we expect the same from, say Wilshere, in similar circumstances? It only goes to show the downside of investing in youth. It might be cheap-er but it is a very risky approach to building a team if the main players aren’t childhood supporters of the club.

    I just wish he won some trophies before he left

  113. In fact the more I think about it the more likely it is that the Cesc thing will be sorted before the WC. If it is concluded by the end of next week it will not be deemed to have been indecent haste.

  114. Cesc will have a glorious sunny lifestlye in spain with all his friends and be a national hero. Over here he will live the quiet life and risk his leg broken every week while his fatiged father figure manager is derided in the press for being a french peado nonce…

    The grass may look greener now but in a few years he will look back at arsenal with fondness deep regret for what could have been given a few more years.

    I agree that cesc giving barca the green light is the catylst here and because wenger is so respectfull to his wishes we will not hold out for silly money. Wenger must be wary to try and temper the backlash from the media and fans however or he will make life very hard for himself.

  115. I won’t go as far as to treat cesc a fuc*er as we knew he wanted to go there.
    But the fact he kissed the badge and then treat us like we are preventing him to fullfill his dream leaves me fuming.
    Staying at Arsenal would be the best thing for him and him not realising it shows we overestimated his intelligence.

    He will not be there star player, he will be played out of position when playing because irrespective of his talent they will rotate the midfield and he will sit out on a lot of important games (after the inter game I’m sure guardiola will learn that an all attacking team is not the best thing to do and Cesc and Iniesta will be the one paying the price as they are the two most attacking).

    And he will not recieve the reception given to Henry, Viera, Pires or even Toure.

    I’ve lost all the little respect, Ive had for Barca and now hope for them to be crushed by Mourinho even if I’ve always disliked him!

  116. Arsenal teams down the ages have consisted almost entirely of non-Arsenal supporting players….Charlie George being one of the exceptions.

    There is no getting away from this. Cesc going to Barcelona at this stage is a small-minded, cowardly, unprofessional move. He will have deserted the club responsible for his success and did not even have the courage to come out and admit it.

  117. I can’t seriously understand why so many people are still stuck with the “poor boy cesc, wish him well in his motherland” shit.

    Some of these same people waste no time in jumping on Wenger.

  118. yeah but balancing your profession with your personal life is key to happiness so however unprofessional it loks like to us (everyone signs long term contracts if possible) you have to well………. sympathise somewhat with personal side. He is human after all.

  119. Jonny and Frank seem to be the only ones able to understand the BBC article. It simply quotes Barca as saying they could not make anything formal until June 1. It is now after June 1. They have made a formal approach. Big deal! Did anyone expect after all the talk sh!te that Barca would not make a formal approach? All the rest of you who are so ready to fall on your swords over this should chill out! Sh!t happens, Arsenal may sell Cesc, life goes on.

  120. ramsey and whilshire will be different

  121. I don’t see too much to reproach Fabregas over.

    Fuck off Barca though.

  122. i have this sick feeling that IF cesc goes arsenal will win the league AND champions league just to say “f*ck u barcac*nts”

  123. As an observation, I would say ‘So What’ if they have submitted a bid for Cesc. I could offer Arsenal £50 for the players registration, doesn’t mean that they will accept it. It would however, enable me to convince people that I was in negotiations with the club, if I needed to do so.

  124. LimparAssist

    Yup. Nothing’s changed at all. It’s barely even news.

    To be honest, I thought they’d entered into ‘discussions’ a couple of weeks ago.

    This is the bit when we say ‘jump’ and they say ‘how high?’ And if they can’t jump high enough we say ‘do one’.

    Ole Gunner, did you send a copy of you arse over there yet?

  125. YW, exactly.

    My fear is that Wenger allows a deal to happen just to satisfy Cesc. Wenger isn’t a Fergie who forces players to stay, he doesn’t mind selling because he will just bring another through the ranks. Wenger needs to look out for Arsenal on this one, otherwise next season we will have the same shit with Van Persie.

    We don’t have to sell, it’s simple. Thats the stance I expect Arsenal to take. Even if it means a slightly uncomfortable Cesc sticking around and pretending to be happy – if he wasn’t happy he shouldn’t have signed the contract in the first place, or became Captain. This is why I expect Arsenal to only sell at a really attractive figure. Like Man Utd with the Ronaldo affair.

  126. limpar
    you just made me picture of those catalan wankers receiving a picture of Ole’s arse instead of a fax from Arsenal accepting their offer. Brilliant!
    We should organise this, every gunner fan should send a picture of his arse to Barca!
    Or we should organise to have a pile of dung delivered in front of their office to make them know what we are ready to give them!

  127. Is it true that Pool are gonna sell benayoun just so they can attract Arab ivestment?

    And I’m in for the Arse faxing.

  128. Anyway, it’s not all bad news, we’ve heard from reliable sources tells us that personal terms have been agreed with Joe Cole and Wenger will rubber stamp it this week, good news indeed, when fit, he is a class act and it also means I get to watch the World Cup after all.

    LeShite reckon we got Cole then.. he had a good old rant about long term contracts too.. some points I actually have to agree on for once!!. They forgot to mention though the vital factor.. that long term contracts are needed nowadays in order to stop players leaving on a free!

  129. Arsenal will be the stronger for all of this. I will be faxing Lady Neena and Peter’s arses to Barcelona. Going to take me a while though. Can you get very big fax machines?

  130. I hope not about Cole.

    I remember his doing an “exclusive” for the NOTW a year and a bit back slating Arsenal.

    jumped up little fart he is.

  131. Re: Aaron Ramsey, I can only assume there are good reasons why Arsenal have chosen to agree a new contract for a player whose leg is, literally, in bits. Otherwise Wenger is certified insane. Remember that Surralex was mightily pissed off when Wenger grabbed Ramsey from the jaws of Man U. My guess is that Man U or other big clubs are taking a punt that Ramsey will make full recovery and bids have already been tabled.

  132. Chris i went there to see what was going on and after reading a few paragraphs i couldnt bring myself to finish reading. I can’t understand why they wouldnt want us to extend Ramsey contract, afterall he’s been through we need to show our faith in him.Sometime i think the bloggers just want to stir sh!t!!

  133. Cole – Mneh
    Cesc – Mneh

    Ramsey – Get In!!!!

  134. LimparAssist

    The problem comes when, inundated with arses, Beatriz the girl on the Barca frontdesk… starts putting any correspondence with the word ‘arse’ in it straight in the rubbish bin. When Arsenal Football Club’s official ‘Fuck You’ comes through, it may be lost in the maelstrom of arse we’ve sent them. Not the result we want when trying to nip things in the butt… er bud.

  135. Limpar,

    Would it be illegal to fax them my arse? Otherwise we should all just make copies of our arses and fax to (00 34) 93 496 37 67

  136. “Arsène Wenger will be very important to Theo… He is a great manager and a magnificent mentor to the young players at that club.”

    – Geoff Hurst.

    Henry played from the LW in ’98, 3 goals early on, dropped and then used as a sub in the later games I think. Guivarch performed a fine Heskey impersonation for France in that tournament.

    So, England will be relying on Rooney to play as well as Zidane, and for their wide players (who’ve been instructed to hug the touchline as orthodox whingers?) to score some goals?

    Maybe Lumpard will be England’s cunning secret weapon?

    I lost interest with the Capello Index when he chose to Stick with JT as Captain.
    Still, Desailly’s Final in ’94 (?) was one of the better games I’ve seen. But as history proves, with Capello, that was an exception.

  137. Ole is it that simple. If 100 of us did that could they really seriously prosecute???

    Count me in.

    Erm are we talking just cheeks or dot?
    I don’t want to be THE one that went to far.

  138. lmARSEo Limpar,

    Count me in, I’ll definatley do this just for the crack. We’ll show them that were not going to bend over for them…

  139. LimparAssist

    Ole, you hero. I feel like you turned the offer down yourself.

    Have that Barcelona. And fuck off.

  140. CLASSY

  141. How do you say fuck off in Catalan?

  142. YES, YES, TRIUMP!

    Fuck YOU Joan! And You Xavi, you scrotum.

    Fuck you FC Barcellona! !

  143. mwaaa ha haaa done deal. Lets sit tight for any police action. I’m blaming Ole and his almost hypnotic influence he has over me.

  144. YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    EXACLY THE RESPONSE I WAS HOPING FOR:

    http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/arsenal-turn-down-barca-offer-for-fabregas

    “Arsenal Football Club have today released the following statement about Cesc Fabregas:

    “Arsenal captain Cesc Fabregas is under contract with the Club until the summer of 2015. He is a highly valued member of the team and part of our future plans.

    “We have followed recent speculation linking Cesc with a move away from the Club but as there has never been any official approach for him, only two informal exchanges, in which we made it abundantly clear that we have no interest in transferring Cesc, we have refrained from publicly passing comment. However, yesterday evening we received an offer from Barcelona for Cesc and in response, we immediately and resolutely told them once again that we have no intention of selling our captain.

    “To be clear, we will not make any kind of counterproposal or enter into any discussion. Barcelona have publicly stated that they will respect our position and we expect that they will keep their word.”

  145. *TRIUMPH

    goodness me

  146. That statement says to me that we have refused to play childish transfer games.

    Still it’s a nervous time for the fans. But it feels good when this kind of correspondence comes out don’t it.

  147. els

    Have you realy sent your arse to barcelona?

  148. HUZZAH! Bite me dirty barcelona fans.

  149. Thats made me feel MUCH better! Nice one Arsenal 🙂

    By the way YW has posted again

  150. There we go, LimparAssist. No question of the Arsenal response being lost in a pile of arses because there won’t be one…response I mean…there will be a pile of arses.

  151. deano yeah??? Well I sent a pic of my cheeks to that fax number. I’d better not be the only one!

    CG, OLE, DEANO guys…

  152. So Ole
    Where did you get that fax number? Is it sure it’s the barca fax number?

    I just want to make sure, I don’t send my arse to an innocent spaniard!

    LET ALL DO IT FOR REAL! I can picture the headlines from elmundodeportivo:
    Barca recibe miles de photos de culo de los aficionados del Arsenal.
    Eso es el unica que el club va a recibir del Arsenal!

    I am so happy, Arsenal showed they had balls and can’t be bullied around!

  153. “. Barcelona have publicly stated that they will respect our position and we expect that they will keep their word.”

    I think that would be expecting too much from the d!cks!!!But atleast now that Arsenal has set the record straight, the story may die down and we can concentrate on watching the world cup and looking forward to the next season.

  154. els I’m in!!
    I am at work so I don’t want to send it from my work number but will do from a post office or somewhere I can find a fax!

  155. els.

    I promise my Arse is barcellona bound imminently.

    Kudos to you sir…a true pioneer.

  156. Ha ha. I think Ole should put his erm arse were his mou…. no that’s wrong. Erm I think Ole should join in the Crack.

    Gunnerluc I think you should also see if you could use the post office photocopier. That would really make the news.

  157. LOL will probably photocopy it in my own home to be honest. but it will be sent!!!

  158. Eleven Arsenal players going to S.A.Not bad, not bad at all.

  159. Silver Gunner

    ohh that statement was fooking brilliant lets hope they stick to their guns!!

  160. I love the last sentence in that statement.

    “you’ve said you’d respect our position, now let’s see you keep your word” Or else show the world what major cunts you are —twats

  161. I’ll send mine this evening boys.

    The fax number is for their Press room. From their official website.

    I’m going to add the following message; Fuck off…from all gooners

  162. This should be a big F.U. to the critics of Arsenal for their lack of responsiveness. Like any responsible and reasoned business, they waited until there was an official offer to swat it down publicly. Kudos to the club for staying above the nonsense in the media.

  163. now that is great news all round.
    naughty. Frank. i know what ur thinking. it aint so.

  164. Hate to put a dampener on your celebrations but if AFC is only playing hardball? I’ll be waiting till the end of the transfer window before celebrating.

  165. *but what if

  166. WOW! typically classy move from us.

    hopefully this is the end of it

  167. Henristic, I dont agree with Arsenal playing hard ball. One thing I notice about Arsenal is that if it is posted like this, this is what they mean.

    Look at how in spite of all the media speculation, there was never any comment on the site about. Wenger didnt say one word.

    BRILLIANT!

    The only issue would be Cesc acting a fool. Lets hope he sticks to the “Its in Wenger’s hands” statement.

  168. http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11670_6185227,00.html

    After dancing with their hand on Cesc’s ass Barcelona finally made a move.

  169. http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11670_6185680,00.html

    But a firm slap to the face by Cesc’s current boyfriend.

  170. This is planned so I believe the response he had from wenger in the “greatest discusion he had” was that he understand cesc’s desire to rejoin with Barca but that Arsenal won’t sell him until a suitable replacement is ready to take over.

    He just did not said he won’t come this summer because he does not want to have problems with barca or their fans.

  171. This shouldnt even be a story, its rather annoying but the response from Arsenal is very classy. We didnt get into any media crap like Barca. Now Barca look the fool while Arsenal can hold their heads high!

    The team shouldve been focused on getting over the hump. Looking at the way we are falling short and do what it takes to get to the point of winning the PL, not trying to bail out even after you signed a new contract.

    ARSENAL!!

    GOD BLESS!!!

  172. Metro.co.uk is reporting that Joe Cole has agreed a 3 year deal with arsenal http://bit.ly/cvIcAU

  173. Silver Gunner

    Joe Cole to arsenal a rumour or more lets hope the latter.

  174. I thought the cole thing was utter bullshit at first but he is starting to grow on me… he is direct and can dribble behind defensive lines. bit of a wild card to change a game.

    I would have assumed we dont need him but wenger said something about replacing players that leave so maybe eduardo is off then? wouldn’t mind if it was arshavin tbh

    should probably just shut up and wait for the official

  175. Silver Gunner

    word i agree arshavin’s heart does not seem to be here too many weird things coming from him through the media.

    Having said that he is still world class.

  176. Kitchen Sink

    what a shame..

  177. Ha ha ha! Fantastic response from Arsenal.
    Barca, watch and learn. That is how a truly big club behaves.

    It’s not the end of the media speculation, but it’s the end of the line for Barca’s bid, I feel. There is no wiggle room in that statement.
    Also, I don’t think we will have an unsettled player next season. At some level, the derisory amount offered will have sent Cesc a message about how much each club values him. Furthermore, I don’t think he is unhappy at Arsenal – and why would he be, apart from not having won trophies? I am guessing that his satisfaction with his current situation was what was established in THAT conversation – and why he said he was leaving it up to Wenger. (It’s up to Arsene anyway, but don’t tell Cesc that!)

  178. Arsenal say, “Stick it up your Barce.”

  179. Fabregas will be relieved by this. His chums in the Spanish team have put him under a lot of pressure to move to Barcelona. He didn’t want to go, but he didn’t want to refuse his buddies. He needed someone with authority to make the right decision for him, and Arsenal have done just that.

  180. shotta-gunna

    The ball was in our court once Cesc blinked and put it in Arsene’s hands. Now the club has told the Barca scum to bloody f*ck off. Excellent news.

    Barca’s options are limited. They can’t run to their insolvent Spanish banks and get a huge credit line. No siree, not in this climate. Their best bet is to use c*nts like Xavi, Puyol, Pique and Messi to unsettle Cesc. Those f*ckers should be concentrating on the world cup but we know they have a lot of time to mess with Cesc’s head.

  181. Poliziano – I hadn’t thought about it that way. We all know Cesc wants to play for Barca one day but being in his early 20’s Cesc has plenty of time. Maybe Cesc doubts whether he would be first choice there and if he were to end up on the bench for extended spells how long before Barca are looking at signing the next midfield superstar. At Arsenal he is guaranteed to start, improve and play himself into contention.

  182. The Ramsey contract will be as much about the player’s mental recovery from injury as anything else. Knowing he is wanted and has a future can only help his recovery.

  183. Does anyone have a stat or some information on other club’s players with leg breaks and how it has affected the rest of their playing carriers?

    It might be interesting to compare the recovery of Diaby, Eduardo, and now Ramsey with players from other teams. I can’t remember any other player from any top team like that?

  184. Anybody hear Adrian Durham on Talk Shite earlier.

    First of all arsenal were condemned for not already signing some of the “quality” england players going to the world cup. The assertion being that if we had signed them, say, 2 or 3 years ago, they would have improved us, as they are much better than some of the young players we have got now.

    Secondly arsenal were condemned for their current stance on Cesc Fabregas. The moral and righteous thing to do would be to let him go to Barcelona quietly, and for a much reduced fee, as he was plucked from their academy.

  185. Benitez being offered a 3m severance package.

    Adios amigo.

  186. Gainsbourg69

    Henristic:

    “I don’t begrudge Cesc wanting to leave. Its his boyhood club and he trained through their academy. Wouldn’t we expect the same from, say Wilshere, in similar circumstances? It only goes to show the downside of investing in youth. It might be cheap-er but it is a very risky approach to building a team if the main players aren’t childhood supporters of the club.”

    That’s a very minor downside considering how much money Wenger has made for the club with the sale of players he picks up for peanuts and sells for huge sums.

    Cesc was a major coup for Wenger. And although that kind of player doesn’t appear very often, Wenger seems to find those kinds of players more than any manager. So if Cesc leaves Arsenal make a huge bundle of money, promote or buy a player of the same caliber as Cesc and the debt is under control. Some may bitch and moan about not winning trophies and they’ll trash the youth project. But once the club clears its debt and it’s set up to better compete against the financially doped sides, then people will realize what sort of sacrifice Wenger has made. I mean, can you imagine Mourinho putting aside his ambition to help his club grow like Wenger has? I certainly don’t. Wenger should be praised for revolutionizing this club. Not have shit thrown at him because some babies want a trophie in order to brag to their friends.

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