I Was A Teenage Doombag Baby

While Yogi’s away Steww will play …

When Yogi told a few of us under which plant pot he’d hidden the key to ACLF Towers during his absence, we thought, well – put the cat out feed the fish – as long as we don’t get those two in any way muddled up we’ll be laughing. But there was a note pinned to the stuffed bear at the bottom of the big staircase in the main entrance hall which read ‘Oh and while you’re at it stick up some blog entries for me will you’. Daunted but not entirely loose of bowel I thought to myself, OK I can do this. And then I read the post script. ‘Stew how about a season preview, you know predictions for Arsenal 2010/11′ and after a while I realised the high pitched keening building to a terrifying crescendo was coming from me.

Allow me, if you will, to take you back in time. You’ll have to do the noises and imagine the picture going all wavy yourself. The year is 1978, it’s a Friday evening in May and I am in the little room beneath Redfield Road Methodist chapel playing something called shinty in an improbably small space with a group of other boys all dressed appropriately for an evening in the Scouts. Scouting for boys was big in Midsomer Norton in the seventies and even though I was only a year away from fags, spliffs booze and booze, and girls and booze, an evenings entertainment still involved more simple and innocent pursuits. This evening sticks in my mind for one reason only. The next day was the FA Cup Final, and The FA Cup was a massive event in those days.  Broadcast simultaneously on both (yes both) channels, the coverage started at about 9am with Cup Final It’s a Knockout and became more ridiculous as the day went on, but it was the only live televised game we got.

My earliest football memories involve David Webb scoring against Leeds in a replay at Old Trafford in 1970. However, Chelsea weren’t the team for me, despite Peter Osgood’s sideburns. When the little cardboard league ladder came out that autumn with it’s cut out tabs for each team to be raised and lowered as the season progressed, it was Arsenal who interested me. Hey I had just turned seven, I make no claims to understand why Bertie Mee’s men chose me but they did. Maybe it was Charlie George’s hair and sideburns in combination. Of course my first season as an Arsenal fan saw us win the double, culminating in that drawn out Cup Final and Charlie’s wonder goal. This football lark was going to be nothing but fun. Simple; you cheer for the team you like and they win everything. Joy. Until the next year. Dumped out of the final by the hated Leeds United and then nothing. Not one trophy, not one more cup final appearance throughout those miserable six years. I was a teenage doomer.

Until that Friday night scout hall in May 1978. The subject turned to the cup final and I laughed scornfully at the suggestion that lowly Ipswich Town with their little known manager Bobby something or other would cause us much trouble tomorrow. We wouldn’t just win, we would, in the words of David Pleat , give them a footballing masterclass. Not only did we have Jennings, Pat Rice and David O’Leary in defence, England star Malcolm ‘Supermac’ MacDonald up front but we had the worlds single greatest talent, the man for whom this very site is named, yes we had Liam Brady. I boasted, I bragged I put every last scout and scout master and parents coming to collect scouts in their place. We will win. It’s only a matter of how many we score. I was all too happy to believe that six long years (and boy are they long when you’re in your teens) were about to come to an end in front of a world wide audiance of gazillions.

This was to be my last ever public prediction of success for Arsenal.

I am not a superstitious man, and, touch wood, it’s never done me any harm. However, where football is concerned I have my, shall we say foibles. If I lost us that dreadful match and brought down all that pain on me and my team then it was a simple mistake to rectify; never again tell anyone that we are going to win anything. Ever.

This policy has had mixed success since that fateful Saturday. The feelings of despair which I experienced at the tender age of fifteen are just as intense and the hope, whilst not publicly expressed, burns just as fiercely.’Hang on though Stew’, I hear you cry, ‘you’re always on ACLF banging on about being positive and having belief’. Ah yes but here we reach the nub, the rub if you will. You see this place is like a haven of pro Arsenal positivity and it rubs off on one after a couple of seasons. It’s one of the reasons I love it and keep coming back for more. And if occasionally I let slip that I think we can win the league, well it’s only entre nous is it not? You won’t go telling anyone what I said will you? Because here’s the thing, (that wasn’t the thing back there that was a nub or rub, I forget which, this is definitely the thing) backed into a corner as I am by YW, I have to say what I think the season holds for us. It goes against my instincts, against decades of strict abstinence, but you see, last season, this old dog learned a few new tricks.

There was a regular poster with whom many of you are familiar. Frank never shirked or shrank from a fight. Forthright, scourge of the doom and gloom brigade, 100% Arsenal through to his marrow, he said that we would win by a country mile. And I got swept along with him as did many others. I believed it, I said it to myself, a country mile. ‘Ah ha – but Frank was wrong’ I hear you cry, ‘ you must feel as big and stupid  and as much of a jinx now as you did in 1978.’  Well, no actually. So what if the prediction didn’t come true? It actually enhanced an already exciting season, made me feel part of something good and positive and above all supportive. It gave me belief which kept the fire burning on the darkest days. And you know what? Frank was right to believe we could win by a mile. There was no reason we couldn’t have run away with it. So it didn’t work out that time but sport isn’t maths, things sometimes don’t add up. Arsene predicted the Invincibles one season early didn’t he?

This season I think we find ourselves uniquely placed among our peers with young players nurtured and brought up playing together the Arsenal way. The culmination of years of hard work has blessed us with this squad of staggeringly talented players and a manager who could walk into any boardroom in the world and be offered a job. To be here now at this moment in our club’s history and to witness the fruition of all those years work; well, why wouldn’t you feel proud, why wouldn’t you feel positive?

I don’t know if Frank will ever come back so I’ll say it for him. A country mile folks, that’s my prediction. And until it’s mathematically impossible to win I’ll believe we will win. When you watched the first half on Sunday as we  majestically passed Liverpool off the pitch, at Anfield, on their managers début you just knew this team could go anywhere and do anything. And even when they contrived to somehow lose a goal the determination, and yes grit, that they showed whilst never losing their cool was wonderful. The two match changing substitutes, one in the autumn of his career the other still in his early spring encapsulate all that is great about our club and that blend of youth, experience, never say die and our unique brand of Wengerball is as good as anything out there and on it’s day, better.

A country mile.

Just don’t tell anyone I said it will you?

About steww

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Posted on August 19, 2010, in Arsenal. Bookmark the permalink. 403 Comments.

  1. 2nd again

  2. Good positive stuff Stew. I like you hate predicting what will happen during the season but I always hope for the best. To me that is what a supporter always does.

  3. Loving these posts from the forum’s various contributors. I will always give my undying support to this team. All I can ask for is commitment from our players. Now onto various topics of discussion.

    1) Nasri out for one month, will this effect him once he’s back? It’s a shame since he’s been mercurial during the pre-season. I can only hope this doesn’t anger him or demotivate him. We’re barely thin in his position with Fabregas, Rosicky and Wilshere all capable of filling in his duties for the time being.

    2) Rumours about us signing Squillaci for 8 million. Admittedly, I don’t know much about him but he has featured for Sevilla (regularly) and the France national team. Any player that can play at such a level for consecutive seasons can boast undoubted quality. I’m all for it even with Djourou coming back from injury.

    3) Schwartzer and Given rumours are gathering momentum and I don’t know about you guys but I truly believe Schwartzer is a quality GK and has been impressive with Fulham. I don’t mind Almunia to be honest but I think Schwartzer is just that much better than him.

    4) Youthful players like Kwadwo Asamoah (21) and Serge Gnabry (15) are also on Wenger’s radar. Asamoah is said to have ”strong tackling, close ball control and ability to pick the right pass”. Spot on, exactly the type of player required to cover for Alex Song. Serge is of an unknown quantity but if Wenger is interested he must be a talented kid.

    I hope all our signings are wrapped up before the Blackpool game so that we can get a clear indication of how our team is shaping up for the season. COYMFG!!!

  4. Brilliant post, Steww.

  5. Neither Given or Schwarzer seem any better than MA to me. All 3 are good shot stoppers but all 3 also flap at set pieces. Maybe it is all these new balls that are making keepers look worse now days.

  6. Nice article, Steww.

    I myself will never ever predict anything – ohh, I just did ;-)

    And as you say, Piresaholic, Sqiddley-Diddley sounds good. But with that name, maybe he should play in goal.

  7. A country smile.

    I agree with Steww, and Frank, while we fell away at the end, I am convinced that inside the the guts of the team we crashed a psycholgical barrier last season, the “you know what, we can do this” barrier, and this season are rewards, not automatically a gong, as Steww says football is not maths, but we will go forward again, no doubt whatsoever, and every season in the foreseeable future. The thing is, the thing is … beware, once this team reaches the top once, it will not stop.

  8. @Dup- Every keeper has a flap in them, case in point Reina on Sunday. As a shot stopper I believe Schwarzer is superior to Almunia. He’s more vocal and vastly experienced in every aspect. If anything Almunia needs some competition as he seems to have stagnated with no one vying for his spot. I won’t be greatly disappointed if Almunia remains our No.1 but I think he’s had enough chances to solidify his name on the team sheet and our team deserves to be strengthened in every aspect so that no excuses can be made.

  9. Nice one, we all know we can do this is a question of having faith in the way we play the game and the players at the club!

    Come on you gunners!!!

  10. Excellent stuff Steww – a most enjoyable start to the day.

    The thing (rub, nub) is that though we haven’t won for the last 5,6 9 – whatevah – years I honestly feel that the last three seasons were well within our reach of winning.

    It sounds to many like excuses or a tired mantra but no other team has had to cope with the bizarre and remarkable panoply of injuries we have suffered.

    I still believe a fit RVP would have been enough cutting edge to win us the league last season – never mind the truly dizzy heights we achieved on the injury table (14 players at one point I believe!).

    Everyone knows this team/squad is ‘close’ – if the fortune and misfortune could be shared out a little more evenly this season we could well run away with it.

    Anywho – nice contribution to the fold sir – lets keep it positive and clutch close the belief and hold onto our hats.

  11. Good post. Nostalgic at times.
    Just asking – How long is a country mile? :) :D

  12. sheesh…Steww, That is a very good post but I really dont know why people have to get so over sensitive about this “doomers vs believers” stuff. I agree it is important to be positive and believe but do we really need to be this soppy about it?

    Just state your point strongly and unabashedly in a sensible way. Why do people have to worry about whatever anyone else says? This is an open forum and you will get all types. I have always found frank amusing despite myself not being his favorite poster here.

    So Steww, great attitude you have got there, keep it up and dont let a few “doomers” ruin your state of chosen bliss which is great to see.

    Cheers!

  13. Very well said.

  14. The most delightful news of the week was Le Gaffer signing on. He is the living example of loyalty.

  15. Thanks naga – wasn’t aware I displayed any over sensitivity at all. In fact this is a very doomer friendly post, I admit to understanding the frustrations of youngsters going through 5 or more trophyless seasons. I feel their pain. Of course with great age comes perspective. These times pass, and at least we are challenging not like when I was going through my first trophy drought.

  16. Wenger’s boys are coming of age.I really get a feeling that we will closely contest for the second place this season.

  17. At last, the culprit for the ’78 debacle reveals himself. And to think, for all these years I’ve been blaming those “unlucky” underpants!
    p.s. @ Zama – it depends which country you are in..

  18. Bloody good steww.

    Lovely writing. You captured that innocence of the juvenile supporter that we all once were, when football was bright and shiny. Every cup final was an event and Charlie was in his glory. Ah, youth.

    Jumpers for goalposts, isn’t it?

  19. Is it ok for me predict us winning it by 2 country miles?

    Great article Steww, like the title, and nice to get a little background on your early Arsenal days.

    One thing I would like to ask you.. Have you always remained optimistic every season since you started supporting, or do you get a sense of realisation kicking in when you think the team isn’t good enough?

    For me the last 15 years with Wenger in charge, I have always thought we had a chance, even if we lost a couple players in certain seasons. What gets me is most of us fans think we have the quality to do it, yet the media and everone else thinks we are miles away. I hope its the media being wrong, which they usually are…

  20. what happend to frank ??

    did he stop posting here ??

  21. Isn’t YW around to get this racist prick of the site

  22. Thanks Bob
    redmark, yes it was me, you blamed Willie Young all those years didn’t you?
    Chris, I admit to some dark times, before George Graham and definitely before Arsene came.

  23. Naga

    The most optimistic and supportive fans have as much right to display their anger towards the doomers, as the doomers have displayed to the team and manager.

    If you can dish it out, expect someone to throw it right back.

    Anyway what did you make of the new signings Naga?

  24. I remember getting excited about signing Willie Young!

  25. What comments?

  26. The optimistic fan

    Chris Goona,what do you mean my optimistic fans?

    The fans who know that we wont win anything anymore with Wenger in charge

  27. Bob, I can remember getting soo excited when Alan Ball came!

  28. The optimistic fan

    TBF,I was excited about Silvestre signing,thinking that he would bring in experience to our centre back.

    I still think that we should have offered him a new contract,he did nothing wrong and was wrongly given the stick,along with Diaby and Denilson,who IMO will rule Europe this season.

  29. Good nostalgic stuff Steww, my first real memory of Arsenal was the five minute final the following year, Alan Sunderland’s fro in all it’s glory…!!!

  30. Hmm. That’s open to a bit of On The Buses nudge nudge wink wink misinterpretation now I read back.

  31. Blimey 1971 brings back huge memories. My stupid cousin decided to get married that afternoon and it was a race to get back to the house in time for kick off against Liverpool. When Steven Heighway scored, the house erupted. Not only had my stupid cousin got married on the day my Arsenal were playing in the Cup Final, she had married into a bunch of Scouse scum! That is hard for an 11 year old to take. Bob Wilson getting beaten on his near post and the commentators going on and and on and on about it made it worse. Then the real drama unfolded. Equalizer! Was it Eddie Kelly, was it George Graham? Did I care at the time? Nope. Suddenly the house appeared to have more Arsenal than Scouse fans in it. Where the hell did all these Arsenal fans appear from? And when Charlie George layed magestically on the Wembley turf, arms outstretched, it seemed the whole street had gone Arsenal mad! Frank McLintock lifted the Cup and the Double was ours! My stupid cousin lived in High Barnet and I was on the bottom of Salisbury Road for hours after that game, waving my Arsenal scarf to car after car of revelling Arsenal fans. I thought back to how the 1970/71 season had started. Arsenal? top 6 at best was the pundits view. No defence, dodgy keeper, won’t score enough goals. Same as you Steww, I leave the predictions to others. I only know that this is a Mighty Club.

  32. Supercod – how I remember that one!

  33. Jaygooner – it’s like Zimpaul said yesterday, the memories are what arsenal really give us. Brilliant post mate, happy days.

  34. Cheers steww.. my interest began during the early 90′s. I had Merson, Wright, Seaman, and the rest posted all over my bedroom walls. The 1st season I remember, I was in my very early teens when we finished somewhere mid-table in 93 I think.

    For me then every year it grew a more serious hobby supporting Arsenal, so I havn’t quite experienced such depressing times, nor have I the memory of my early teens to remember the football we played. Just the big occasions, Seaman fingertip penalty save, Cup finals, European games etc..

    Even though I never experienced them times, I realise that other clubs do not provide their fans with such joyful football and I respect what Wenger has brought to our club. A trophy may be something fond to look back on, and remember in your old age. But we are privileged to having enjoyment week in week out. For me, that is better than a trophy, and long may it continue.

    A trophy at the end of this season never the less, will be remarkable, and cap off all the work that has been put in behind the scenes with keeping Arsenal FC up there. There is nothing worse than going un-rewarded, this is where all the doomer type ill-feeling comes from mainly. They just got to remember to remain supportive, thats all we can do, if they can’t enjoy it at least then what is the point. Just imagine if some of the football you experienced came back around……

  35. £200,000 pounds. I remember watching us stuff, I think, Southampton 5 -1 (maybe) and Alan Ball sitting on the ball gesturing to their players to come and get it.

    He never really did it for me in an Arsenal shirt. I remember watching Radford, in one of those excellent interviews Bob Wilson used to do on Arsenal TV when it was on Sky, suggest that Ball was one of the main reasons why that team didn’t perform and broke up. He had to be the main man.

  36. ACLF’s massive ‘strength in depth’. The squad is deep and outstanding. Good post, Steww

  37. Looks like some preferred Graham. James?

  38. Thegoonermaster

    My best memory was none other than the injury time goal at the Anfield.

  39. Bob I was young, the media told me he was a BIG SIGNING so I believed it!
    Supermac did one of those interviews and you could still feel the agony when he had to retire through injury. He loved playing for us and was almost in tears decades later when he recalled walking out of Highbury for the last time.

  40. Sebastien Squillaci is on the verge of a move to the Gunners, after being omitted from Sevilla’s Champions League qualifier last night. Arsene Wenger is keen to bring the 30-year-old centre-back to the Emirates to add some experience to his youthful defence. (Daily Mirror)

    Only the Daily Mirror.. but this is the type of signing we need. I just hoped it would be an already established Premiership CB. You just don’t see value for money, or any Premiership clubs willing to part with their players this season.

  41. Morning,

    I thjnk any half decent keeper would be a good thing (either Given or Schwarzer). In part this is because Almunia always seemed to play better with a decent challenge. He always seemed better when trying to knock Mad Jens off of top spot, or trying to keep him out. Likewise, when Poom was around.

  42. So many memories of exciting signings … Peter Marinello; Charlie Nicholas; Vladomir Petrovic …

    But one that sticks vividly: Last game of the 2003/04 season … some tall, skinny dude in a striped suit is presented to the crowd. Step up RVP! Good job it was before the game …!

  43. I’m getting the same feeling I got with GG’s young team from the late 80′s. Young, hungry, talented players from the youth set up blended with some quality older heads. I can’t help think that it’s just a matter of time!

  44. What a lovely post! I have a very similar early Arsenal experience, albeit a couple of decades later. Arsenal picked me when I was 7, in 1988. Like you, I’m not sure why that London team was the one I chose, but choose I did. And of course, by the end of the season I had seen Anfield ’89 and life was never the same ever again.

    I have one wonderful memory of an Arsenal prediction. I was 18 and in 6th form, and had an awesome English teacher whose one failing was to be a Man U fan. And I remember saying to him WEEKS before our we magically started to reel United in at the end of that double winning season, ‘You know, I just have a feeling we’re gonna win it this year…’ I’ve never forgotten that certainty I had at that moment…or the feeling of complete ecstasy as Bould played the pass of his life for Adams to thump home the 4th at Everton. Amazing times!

  45. Steww, Willie Young at the back – now there was a ‘stopper’…..

  46. I would like to publically apologise to Willie Young. For 32 years I have blamed the sweaty ex spud for that fateful day in May 78.
    But now I know it was you Steww!

    Well written Steww, nice start to the day.

  47. Well done Steww,

    “So what if the prediction didn’t come true? It actually enhanced an already exciting season, made me feel part of something good and positive and above all supportive. It gave me belief which kept the fire burning on the darkest days. And you know what?”

    Just about sums it up.

    Two days to go and then we can unleash the dogs of war… I fear for Blackpool in my hopes.

    COYG

  48. Albo – Adam’s goal remains one of my all time favourites. That Bouldy should have played the pass too, it just summed up how Arsene liberated that iron back four.

  49. Extremely well written post Stew! And for this I congratulate you. Country mile eh? :-D

    … Country mile. Period.

  50. Looks like the final two pieces of the jigsaw will be Squillaci and Schwarzer.

  51. Ey Steww. That sure is a seven star article right there. You can write. You can damn write. A country mile it will be.

    I remember in the gloom of last season I asked Frank, almost accusingly, where the country, mile was.

    His reply was something like: best football, country mile. Best manager, country mile, Best club, country mile, most attractive football, country mile, Vermalen, song, Cesc, country mile.

    Trophys were not the only country mile for him. I feel deep down that in a year or two this team will eclipse the invincibles.

    I feel we may even end up tapping Messi unashemedly… just to spite.

    A country Mile

  52. Thanks Arsenalkabisa, much appreciated. You’re right there is so much more than just winning. Hmmm given me an idea there….

  53. Sevilla’s Sporting Director, a guy called Ramón Rodríoghuz Verdejo, has confirmed that Arsenal have tabled a bid for Squillaci.

    Speculation that the transfer fee has already been agreed at £7.4M.

    I know very little about Squillaci. I saw him play for France last Winter alongside Gallas and he looked ok.

  54. Sevilla’s sports director Ramon Rodriguez: “Squillaci has asked us not to play (against Braga) because of the offer of an important team…but for the moment, we consider that the offer is inadequate and Squillaci is still a player of Sevilla”

  55. I’ll believe it when Yogi says it’s true.

  56. Enjoyed that immensely. Lovely writing, steww. Great to hear old Arsenal tales like that one, and Jaygooner’s.

    And of course Frank was right. A year early just like Arsene.

  57. @OG

    Think its at Gazidi’s docket now. If he negotiated for Arshavin, after midnight had passed, who is Squillaci???

  58. Hey and the best thing is LA when you screw up the italics I can go into your post and edit it. Mwah ha ha ha the power.

  59. Don’t test me, steww.

  60. oooh – brave

  61. That was lovely, steww, really entertaining read. And great memories to read about.

    I am a mere Johnny-come-lately compared to some of you, but I hope my passion for the club and its values is as strong.

  62. Perspective is one of the few benefits of getting old, everything else about it stinks. You strike me as a fan with their heart in the right place FG

  63. @FG, I refer to myself as the Wenger Generation.

    I was curious about a manager who has the same name as his club…

    All i remember is from Overmars, Petit, Vieira Kanu {his heart illness days, never caught him while at inter..}.

    So I too may be as new as you.. roughly 96 0r 97..

  64. Here’s a different kind of memory. Mid-1980s and early 1990s. Few matches were broadcast to this part of Africa live, and no local matches were filmed, maybe the odd final. So everybody used radio. Saturday afternoon and family and friends sitting round a radio switching from BBC radio saturday afternoon sports to local commentaries.

    So you got 2 minutes of Arsenal v. whatever, and then waited 5-10 minutes for the next bit, but if there was a goal they’d go back immediately. Shouts and whooping around a radio. We scored! The anticipation alone was amazing. You can’t beat radio commentary, or the commentators. I have great nostalgia and now miss it.

    Sunday morning, the kids at church, and us at a local hotel that screened edited excerpts from Saturday games, but you already knew the score, and a write up from the Sunday papers. No matter. Shouts and screams, we scored!!!!!!!

    That’s how a few of us followed english football for many years. Gradually, one by one, local Arsenal support grew, and from 1997, exploded.

    A country mile is as long as it is. You only know how it is after walking it. That’s Frank.

    Thanks Steww.

  65. FG, on YG’s reporting of the Squillaci link yesterday: I thought the “Leaves Nordveit Out In The Cold” line was actually quite sweet. You know where you are with that site because they unashamedly back the youngsters to the hilt. Any 1st appearance for an academy player is celebrated as a victory, and any new signing that might bump them down the order is seen as a threat. The headline is a bit silly in the wider context of Arsenal, but in a way I think it’s pretty cool. It’s good to have a site backing the yoots 100%.

    No idea if anything will come of it but I think Squillaci would be a great signing myself. And he hardly looks out of place in this photo, does he?

    http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/06xM4Iu4686Mi/610x.jpg

  66. Well said, Arsenalkabisa… Well said!

  67. Nice one Steww, best guest spot by a country mile.

    Know nothing about Squillaci, but our recent CB signings have been good, and I’m sure he’ll be no different. It’s just reassuring to know that we’re after anyone at all.

  68. Right, I’m off out with the dogs see you all later.

  69. Lequipe.fr also says the squillacci transfer is pretty much a done deal. They say the player and Arsenal have agreed terms and Sevilla has accepted to let him leave but still want a bit more money.

    He’s been one of the defender I’ve earmarked at the beginning of the summer as a good replacement for gallas. He is a strong quality defender and has been consistent during his spell with Lyon and Sevilla and I’m pretty sure he was in the Monaco team that went to the CL finals only to be beaten by Mourihno’s porto.

    Tbo i don’t really care if we bring a gk or not. Given or Schwarzer could give good competition to Almunia but I would not want big Al to be sold if one comes in as I still think big Al has the edge on both of them. Like this we could loan Fabianski to give him a well needed competitive run in goal and loan either Sczenzny or Mannone for some good experience.

    As for the prediction, I’m probably jinxing it too steww, as my friends taunt me on how we will do and I always confidently respond that we will do the double (PL & CL) but I think our squad is really ready for the fight with a very strong first eleven and and 2nd string that many PL team would look in envy when comparing to their first.

    Come on you gunners!

  70. I read Fulham wants Vela plus cash for an old man. Good joke but not funny.

  71. That’s right Stew:

    We should just stick our heads in the sand and pretend everything is Hunky Dory.

    Just like we did last year, and year before.

    Because if you close your eyes and begin to chant “a country mile, by a country mile”……you will be whisked away like Dorothy was in the wizard of Oz because “theres no place like home…….there’s no place like home” isn’t that right Stew?

    You might find this hard to believe but y’know the reason I came to aclf was because I was continuously slagged off for supporting Wenger on another blog..!! And yet what I have seen over the past 5 years is the exact same repetitive mistakes happening time and time again – and the abject refusal to acknowledge this on this blog just dilutes its credibility.

    Furthermore – guys like myself, AIC and of late, Bill, who merely voiced such concerns were treated with a large degree of hostility, by wankers like Frank in particular – the very person you, hilariously adorn.

    What you advocate is no forum for debate.

    But if that makes you happy – then hey way to go Stew! That was a great article. Your just wonderful Stew! Country miles…….here we come..!!

  72. Why did you wait for poor steww to leave the house before being a cunt, Joe?

  73. “…hey way to go Stew! That was a great article. Your just wonderful Stew! Country miles…….here we come..!!”
    See you turned it round right at the end, well done Joe. You too can believe.

  74. I just checked before I left, I know how they operate LA.

  75. I miss Frank. And Pz. Ponyboy popped in to say hello. You sound a like a little lost boy Joe.

  76. If we could rely on Djourou to be fit for the most part of a season, then the need to buy wouldn’t be so high.

    We have 3 very good CB’s, and another couple as backup.

  77. @ Joe

    I’ll remind you that no-one escapes criticism on this blog – it’s just that the terms in which it is couched are muted and insult-free. And we don’t feel obliged to go over and over the same ground day after day.

    I would be very happy to explain again why most of us feel that our first duty is to support, and to go into the areas where I personally disagree with your assessments of the last season or any particular player, or the manager.

    But I would like to hear from you first how and why you think that insulting our players or our manager, or the regular rehearsing of mistakes/bad decisions/bad performances/perceived weaknesses – by fans, on a blog – can improve our league position, win us cups, develop players, or cause the transfer market to unfreeze. Or indeed anything else useful to AFC. More succintly, what would be the point of it?
    Your complaint about the posters on here is always that we are complacent. That implies that you think we can and should be doing something about what you feel is wrong, and that the thing that we should be doing is criticising. So tell me why.

  78. Joe,

    You missed the whole point of the post. Steww was actually sympathising with the doomer race if you like. Nothing will be perfect, and everyone has their own opinion on team affairs. Is it right that 2000 Arsenal fans come onto blogs to scream about signing players, does that mean it is widely accepted that this is the solution?

    No it isn’t, because there are another 50,000 who support the club no matter what who can’t be fucked to come on and listen to your dirzzle.

    End of the day supporters are a paying customer, if you ain’t happy, don’t pay, don’t go to the games. From what I see there are always 60,000 entertained fans turning up. Maybe you should detach yourself from the club if you don’t agree with its principles in playing good football, and not be taken for mugs.

    So guess what that makes you Joe…

  79. Good job Steww. I am no longer surprised by any of the ACLF regulars who are filling in for YW. Your posts in the Comments section alawys speak to your high standards. You are definitely part of YW’s 1st team. Who’s next? Ole?

    PS: Maybe your homage to Frank will bring him out of retirement.

  80. FG

    Maybe he wants us to start posting along the lines of…

    “we will get another 20 freak injuries this season, 4th is our target”

    “Denilson loses the ball, Almunia is never perfect, and Song looks lazy, we will never win the league”

    “Cesc is leaving, we might as well give up now”

    “RvP won’t play much, we are fucked”

    …Then we will all look at our computer screens ready and willing to pop a few pills to stop reading the painful shite that they like.

    Good thing is so far most the shite the doomer bunch come up with comes back to haunt them..

    For example: slating Song, Bendtner, Eboue, Verm…

    next on the cards is Alumina, Walcott, Diaby, and Denilson once again.

    They just never fucking learn.

  81. “Nothing will be perfect, and everyone has their own opinion on team affairs.”

    Quite right, CG – we as a club or as a team can never achieve perfection, BUT we strive towards it nonetheless. That does not mean we cannot appreciate what we HAVE achieved.

  82. Hi Joe
    I feel your hurt and your pain about five years with no tin pots to gloat about.
    During those years, I guess you missed the emergence of the most exciting, vibrant and potentially brilliant football team the Premier League will ever see. If you desire short term silverware, I am sure Chelski, Manure or MankCity will gladly welcome you into their glory hunting throngs. Once a Gooner, always a Gooner. EIE. If you cannot get that through your thick brain, sorry mate, you are a lost cause. And don’t come back giving it large when I am proved right about The Mighty Arsenal.

  83. ChrisGoona @ 8:56.

    I think our new signings are superb. The kozzer impressed me and was our best defender at anfield by far. He never lost concentration even once and he has to keep that going because we know the other 3 of our back line is prone to it.

    Like I said before, I think our back line will struggle aerially but kozzer is definitely an improvement no doubt.

    Chamakh didnt do much but it is clear to see he is a nuisance, exactly what we need. Lets hope they are not the last ones to come in.

    And by the way, despite what happened Almunia is still twice as good as flapianski. :)

    Cheers!

  84. @ CG

    I would just like someone – anyone – to explain to me what is the great service to the club that they think they are performing.

  85. Bragging Rights Ltd

    Squillaci fits the bill, n’est ce pas?

    It doesn’t surprise me much to here that we’ve agreed a fee either, as I’m pretty sure that Sevilla really need the money. I think they sacked their manager last year when it looked like they wouldn’t get the CL place. Apparently they’d have been in a heap of trouble if they hadn’t made it.

  86. Stew, thank you for a most interesting post. I do not possess your Arsenal pedigree. All the way back to 1070! I have only been around for the Wenger years. Although I followed football since the sixties, I have been a follower of Arsenal football since the reign of Wenger. It was he who attracted me to Arsenal’s wonderful style of football.

    Now Stew, did I actually hear you mention Alan Ball’s name or was that…. or was that… just an hallucination?? And, if I did hear you correctly, was that the same Alan Ball who played for the Vancouver Whitecaps of the defunct North American Soccer League. If that is the one and the same, I watched Alan play for Vancover throughout the sixties and win the league championship one season. What a player he was during his prime. Did he not play for Leeds as well?

  87. Bragging Rights Ltd

    hear

  88. Guys after reading that I think I owe you an update on Frank.

    He’s doing fine. He’s mellowed out now and is getting used to his new home. I dont blame him for being so angry at first, so would I if i’d been bundeled into the back of a van and taken against my will. I’ll tell him you said hello.

  89. My gosh that is a long time! Let’s try 1970!

  90. And by the way, despite what happened Almunia is still twice as good as flapianski.

    What happened?

  91. well said Jaygoooner

  92. Steww – and that great commentary of Martin Taylor, a crescendo into a scream…’Would you believe IT!!!’ Wonderful.

    Joe – the thing is that really, everything is hunky-dory. It just depends on your perspective. My problem with Doomers (I actually can’t believe there are now enough of them that they have a collective noun. How depressing!) is that they are inherently selfish. They care more about themselves than they care about the club. By that I mean, they place the gratification they will feel when we win a trophy far higher than they place gratification in the incredible solid foundation the current regime is building for our club. 

    The strange thing is that the entire framework of the debate is so contrary to the spirit of what football should all be about. When I was young, there was almost no worse insult than to be called a glory supporter. It was almost a point of pride that you supported some 3rd division club rather than Manchester United or Liverpool, because you cared about FOOTBALL, not trophies. Afterall, if the only ‘point’ of a football club is to win silverware, then what is the point in supporting any club but the 2 or 3 at the top. Why should teams like Preston or Watford even exist? Now it seems that if you are not a glory supporter you don’t really care about your club.

    Well I say that the opposite is true. When we lose a game and the usual suspects start spouting bile, I think they are far more interested in their OWN feelings of hurt and disappointment than they are in the club. The people who moan about the club being run ‘like a business’ (as if that’s a bad thing!!!) are not thinking about the club they supposedly love, because if they were they would be overjoyed that our club has such a bright and sustainable future ahead of it. It is a selfishness that seems particularly prevalent at Arsenal football club at the moment.

    Next time you find yourself slating Wenger for being frugal in the transfer market and for balancing the books and for running the club in a responsible and sustainable way, ask yourself this. If a Portsmouth fan were given the choice today – you can have your club back, properly run and within budget but your FA Cup victory never happened, which do you think they’d go for?

  93. ChrisGoona

    A football match at anfield last sunday. :)

  94. There were occasions that Frank howled like a Wolf, but I thought that was just part of his personality and not part of a psychotic process that actually required treatment.

  95. I like the look and sound of Mr. Squillacci. Pity it’s not a young, unknown Zambian wizard to make the groaners squeal, but you can’t have it all.

    I see a paper today has put a figure on ManC’s owners’ bill thus far … one billion pounds. Could that be right? Is that what you buy a title for these days?

  96. Bragging Rights Ltd

    It actually looks like this guy will be at the club before the weekend.

  97. Bragging Rights Ltd

    “Pity it’s not a young, unknown Zambian wizard to make the groaners squeal (…)”

    But he is French – it’s surely the next best thing.

  98. Good points, albo. A different perspective that is no less true for it.

  99. Frank will box your ears James and you won’t like it.

  100. Popping in again to be the 100th person to say “Top Post – and top man, Steww” (Now I know he’s out with the dogs ofcourse…)

    Have to admire Arsene ; did ANYBODY ever think of Squillaci ? Well, yes, a certain genius…

  101. Naga

    So you are too blaming Almunia for Ngog’s rocket shot.

  102. Delia-----Block 112

    Thoroughly enjoyed reminiscences from you all. How many of you remember the Charles Buchan Football Monthly, essential reading in my youth. My bedroom walls were covered with pages torn from this magazine with the likes of Danny Clapton , Vic Groves and Derek Tapscott, none of whom were good enough to grace the Emirates.
    Wengerball was not played by Arsenal in those days or anyone else. We were frequntly humiliated by the Spuds who were the best footballing side at the time. I went home to Norfolk from Highbury most Saturdays disappointed but I never considered any other team .Think what I would have missed had I done so!
    Now my kitchen has posters of AW. RVP, Mozart and Nasri adorning the walls . 55 years may have past but I’m still that kid at heart and can’t wait to catch my train on Saturday for my AFC fix.
    I’m very optimistic about our Season, will wait and watch with eager anticipation.

  103. Can someone tell me, (and this is my only bone of contention, really) – why a new player [ Sol -yep, i know], Silvestre, GK can come in at 30 + ; yet we show the exit to Gilberto et al when they reach that age. Nonsensical.

  104. ChrisGoona

    No, I am just highlighting our GK situation. Almunia flapped at a few crosses and I believe a top class GK should not be beaten at this near post. But the point is that even then, almunia is better than flapianski.

    In simple words I am saying, flapianski should be gotten rid of as soon as possible, him making noises this week about becoming arsenal no. 1 scared the crap out of me.

    If no one comes in, it has to be Almunia(no.1) and sxperznhy (no.2)

    Just a passing mention in case some people might want almunia out because of the anfield match and want flapianski in his place.

    Cheers! :)

  105. Any doubts over Wenger making a bad decision in not topping 90k a week for Joe Cole were surely put to bed on the weekend.

    A midfield of… 1st game back Diaby, forgotten man Rosicky, and lil Jack Wilshire proved to much for the rated England International.

    Can anyone remember any contribution he had on the game, apart from the red card of course!

  106. Ponyboy, I’d start running if I was you

  107. Now we have a French, Swiss, Belgian, Polish-French, French-with-Italian-name, English, reserve-Cameroonian and potentially-Norwegian back line, with Polish, Spanish-almost-English, and Italian keepers. Perfect! Have I missed any?

  108. Naga

    Not everyone is as short mided basing judgement on a game by game basis.

    Almunia is a good keeper, Fabianski isn’t quite ready, but I am sure you would have agreed 2 years ago that he could become number 1 like everyone else did. What has changed that? He still has time to prove his worth to Wenger. He must be doing something right in training and for Poland to keep getting the nod.

    I know he makes mistakes, but as anyone who has seen the affects of television and new media on a players reputation knows, it is blown way out of proportion.

    Even you being as ready and willing to quickly name call on a player should be able to accept this.

    How would you like it if I called you .. Nagashitsupporter?

  109. I don’t exactly think that my cup is brimming over with optimism, but I know that Arsenal will have a better year than last providing that we can keep the injury gremlins from creeping back into the squad. We could have done much better last year if we did not have virtually our starting eleven in the treatment room.

  110. @ ponyboy

    It’s 32, not 30.
    And to be fair, only Silvestre was actually shown the door. We wanted Campbell to stay, but he decided to move closer to his new wife’s relatives (and get regular first-team games) and Gallas felt he was worth two years at full whack as opposed to one year, or even two years at half pay.

  111. PonyBoy it has to do with money, wage bill and intricacies of contracts that’s all, as 30+ players seek 2+ year extensions and Arsenal insists on a one-year maybe-renewable deal.

  112. haha ZP

    That probably explains our lack of understanding at the back!

    Saying that we had our whole back 4 being French and we still leaked goals.

  113. @ Two Owls

    Yup. Ludicrous injury list completely screwed us last season. It was a bridge too far in the end.

  114. @ ponyboy

    And keepers are different.

  115. Of course they have a common language called Enfrapolswispanorit.

    Yes FG it’s 32+

  116. ChrisGoona

    ok..ok… lets not argue over this, it spoils everyones mood, Let peace reign…

    “Nagashitsupporter”? You have given me some colourful names over the years, let me give you one in return..

    Christhegreatgoona. :)

    Love your enthusiasm.

    Cheers!

  117. Bragging Rights Ltd

    It looks like AW’s trying to rebuild the First French Empire. Now we know why he didn’t try and sign Akinfeev.

    I only hope it’s not too late to stop him.

  118. Kos doesn’t need a language, he has the ‘look’.

  119. Joe,

    Country mile. We’ll win by a country mile. And you will be sick

  120. And come to think of it, Gilberto wanted to move for regular first team football as well, didn’t he? AW couldn’t give him that.

  121. Kos doesn’t need a language, he has the ‘look’.

    ha ha, ZimPaul!

  122. True,FG, GK’s are different…. but if it really comes down to money ~ how much more is a new signing than an extension..and why is it so inflexible (except with Dennis ofcourse) – a few extra quid for Gallas would surely have been worth it…
    James, I’m running… from you!

  123. This is England

    Stew
    such bad memories of that cup final. My now wife and I nearly split up over that game.

  124. Naga

    Ok fair enough. I wanted to call you Nagashitski but i didn’t know if you would have got the point.

    Flappianksi is a term other supporters use, Wenger is a pedofile is another stupid chant. You going along with the stupid player name calling doesn’t say much for yourself does it?

  125. Ponyboy – I know what you mean. If only Pires had done a Bergkamp and stayed with us. Problem is these guys see themselves as first choicers still when really hand on heart Gilberto, love him as I do looked off the pace in his last season. Good cover but not a starter any more.
    This new guy, if he is coming is back up to young and talented players, Campbell didn’t want to be that nor did Gallas.

  126. btw: this has been running through my mind-cage: “I just checked in to see what condition my [team's] condition was in”.

  127. ponyboy

    I doubt many more on this blog are missing Gallas after seeing Koscielny. Gallas wants 1st team football, and a big contract. Why should we give him that when he normally gets injured once a year, and he was already one of our highest earners and and a bad influence in the dressing room by reports?

  128. Speaking of ‘Joe’ and ‘country’ reminds of Country Joe and the Fish.

    And it’s one, two, three
    What are we fighting for
    Don’t ask me I don’t give a damn
    Next stop is Vietnam
    And it’s five, six, seven
    Open up the pearly gates
    Ah, ain’t no time to wonder why
    Whoopee
    We all going to die

    Ok, I don’t know which part of the old befuddled brain that association came from …

  129. Bragging Rights Ltd

    Yeah, me too, PB! I’ve been thinking about that song as well – I wanted to make it work, but the lyrics are too crazy; minds getting torn and whatnot. It would have turned out even worse than usual.

  130. Bragging Rights Ltd

    And when it comes to Joe, the instant connection has to be Lookout Joe.

  131. Or ‘Hey Joe’, Hendrix version, oddly enough a classic rock-blues in Zimbabwe, every guitarist could sing and play it once upon a time.

  132. Who can stop chris goona when he is in such a mood? :)

  133. nice one steww good post.

    I completely agree with the superstition nonsense. In day to day life I like to think of myself as a perfectly rational bloke. But when it comes to Arsenal I have so many bizzare traits and rituals i’m an embaressment to all around me.

    Funny though i’m sure it works.

    By the way carlos vela PLUS cash for schwarzer???

  134. ChrisG… Gallas was a good player who scored goals for us and although he was not a dynamic personality, he was an excellent centre back who was very stable when he was fit. I would have liked him to have stayed a while longer. Has Gallas actually signed with anyone at this point. If he has not signed with anyone might there still be an opportunity to have him back with the team. Oh dear.

  135. Fair point Steww…and no-one seemed sad to see Billy G go… but we never know the full story; if Gilberto can still make the Brazilian national team.. and Bobby, Patrick.. am sure TH14 would have stayed too, had he a crystal ball.
    However, that’s past – am getting Doomy!:-)

  136. I enjoyed reading it Steww.

    It would be nice to get a view from an Arsenal supporter who lived through the 60s(no I am not being facetious).

  137. i’m jealous of all your memories…i have been an arsenal supporter in name all my life, but only truly started following the club properly in 00-01. grew up in turkey and my parent’s friends who we saw every summer lived in muswell hill, and their youngest son who is my age got me onto the gunners. went to an international school where it was all american sport and not a care about footy. then changed to a turkish school where i was the only foreign student, and the ridicule i continually received for that defeat to galatasaray drove me to become the fan i am today. 3 years of turks gloating, pouring over newsnow, ‘watching’ every match we played via eurosport/some other sites text updates much to the chargrin of my father who resented me spending 1.5 hours on a dial up watching words: what joy to come to england for university and finally be able to watch more than the occasional match – and what a season! invincibles. i dont care that every year i have spent in england since has been largely unsuccesfull, the joy that arsenal have brought me and the pride they have instilled at every level is worth a thousand trophies.

    after years of searching, i’m so happy to have found ACLF, arsenal vision and stone cold arsenal where like minded and true fans reside and where i’m not driven to apoplectic rage by immature and dense 14 yearolds.

    cheers all, loving the guest posts

  138. Saw TH14 playing for his now New York team and coming up with some moves. Had to be taken off at half time due to thigh strain and therein is the problem with players over thirty with but a few exceptions.

  139. All in all, listening to viewpoints and angles of opinion, shades of this and that, memories and reminiscences, technical, cultural, economic contexts, facts, figures, probabilities, variables, results, players, opposition, system, I too can confirm that Arsenal is in good health and fine spirit. A country mile, no more and no less.

    Perhaps an unknown, young, possibly bespectacled, skinny-legged Zambian football wizard short, but that’s all. Roll on 2010/11.

  140. Well here’s a tale to warm your cockles…. my dad, who saw the Mighty Arsenal in the 30′s …told me the best of lies, at 6 years old. “Son,” he said..”Arsenal are the only team to have never been relegated.”
    “Support them!”
    Then i was taken to see Ipswich Town and have never looked back…

  141. Phew, that’s better.

    It started for me at the preseason Makita Cup in 1994. I wasn’t the most assertive child, but I bustled some kid over the thigh-high white bar that used to separate the the pitch from the stand to get David Seaman’s autograph. Stefan Schwarz hit the post and behind me a fat guy in the old yellow and blue adidas away shirt shouted some words I’d never heard before.

  142. Two Owls

    I was always supoprtive of Gallas when he was an Arsenal player, you don’t have to write to me how good he was as I always liked him as a player, the FACT is now he isn’t an Arsenal player.

    He had a contract offer on the table from last year I believe. Move on, we have actively been looking for replacements.

    Gallas obviously decided that the offer Arsenal gave him wasn’t good enough and he would rather sit at home watching telle.

    Naga

    My 1 question to you is, If you feel a bit embarassed with me putting the Wenger chart to you, why do you feel insulting Fabianski is an ok thing to do?

    For me both are just as damaging to Arsenal. Fabianski chants more so, as he is a youngish player looking to prove himself.

    Surely you know what such negative shite can do to a players confidence, even the most promising like Senderos. We don’t need our players fighting against the opposition and our own fans.

  143. @ Fun gunner.

    Its kind of like when you first get up in the morning and you discover that there is a dampness there behind the ears. However, when you reach back you discover that a snake has been sleeping there all along. Bloody Hell that is insulting to have a snake crawl into the sleeping bag. But you could think of it another way, he did keep your toes warm.

  144. Gallas is an idiot. I am a William Gallas fan. The player, not the man. All I ever saw him do was compete. But having made some £16M (based on popular estimates of how much earns) from the club in the last 4 years, he shouldn’t have made money his bottomline

  145. Agreed Ole Gunner. You call him an idiot while I think of him as having an ego that got in the way of his thinking. Which, I guess, still makes him short of a brick. But, as you say, what a player he was. Nevertheless, sad to see him turn down an Arsenal contract with a team that appreciated his play.

  146. Naga gunner on August 19, 2010
    at 12:23 pm

    “I believe a top class GK should not be beaten at this near post”

    If this is the measure of top class GK’s, then quite simply I’m strugling to name one.

    Which experienced keeper hasn’t been beaten at the near post?

  147. Charles Buchan’s Football Monthly.

    Those were the days. Proper football magazines with proper pictures.

  148. cracking post steww, well done sir.

    Gallas was a bloody good mercenery. But we don’t need him now. Not giving in to his ludicrous demands is another of a long line of understated victories for football our manager has provided over the summer.

    Koscielny is more exciting anyway.

    I still think we will see one or two players come in bofore the end of August. The games before which we should comfortably win even if Wenger has to play fabregas and vela as cover centrebacks.

    Is that disrespectful to our opposition or confidence in our quality?

  149. Gadget on August 19, 2010
    at 1:46 pm

    Every keeper is beaten at their near post multiple times EVERY SINGLE SEASON.

    That’s just nonsense foistered on us by commentators all these years.

  150. Am I the only person that thought that shot from Ngog was nigh unsavable?

    It was hit with such force that, unless he had judged EXACTLY where the ball is going (down to luck, face it) he had NO chance of saving.

    Who saw Eto’o's goal against Manchester United in the Champions League final?

    I’ve heared people on here championing Jaskelainen as a suitable replacement for Almunia, yet Rosicky emphaticaly smashed one in at his near post last season.

  151. Gallas had problems with some team mates Toure was sold for this reason, Nasri said they did not speak to each other and a few other where in the same position according to Samir but I recall Gallas saying that he did not have many friends in the dressing room but that it did not matter because they were professional.

    So I believe his agent turned his head around saying all those big teams had called to know if he was free so he got cocky and went for the bluff but Glazidis did not buy it and now he is out in the cold as no club has offered him a better offer. I guess he might regret it know but wenger has moved along as he said he and sylvestre would sign for another club and his number 10 given to Robin so I can’t see gallas coming back to us.

    Having said that he has been great for us and I will always remember him as a great player who worn the Arsenal shirt and wish him all the luck!

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  153. @ Two Owls

    Eh? Did you mean to say that to me?

    But if I woke up and there was a snake within 50 metres of me, let alone inside my sleeping bag I would scream myself rigid. Sod the warm toes.

  154. Am I the only person that thought that shot from Ngog was nigh unsavable?

    No, you’re not!

  155. Sevilla’s President going public with these negotiations is an attempt to force our hand, isn’t it?

    I can’t see them holding out indefinitely for £7 million (or whatever figure they want), for someone they bought for £5 million when he was 28 two years ago.

    I think we’ll get our man at some point today or tomorrow.

  156. I agree with you Deano!
    N’Gog is not a great striker but his shot was almost unstoppable.

  157. I hope so Limpar

  158. Limpar,

    Apparently they’ve called a board meeting to evaluate the bid. On some of the Sevilla blogs, it seems it’s a done deal.

    There were some quotes in which they say this Sevilla guy said the bid was unacceptable. Do you know the origin of those quotes? I haven’t seen them in the Spanish media?

  159. OLe AS say Seville want a higher offer.

    I am a bit worried he only made 14 appearances last season and is injury prone

  160. Ngog isn’t too bad a player, he has been hitting in the goals in pre-season, and the qualifier they played.

    He seemed to outjump Verm and Kosc a few times too.

  161. First, Great post, then Albo, your comment is also great, i am just feeling happy to see that most of Arsenal fans still think that way and finally

    Squillaci is for most people unknown however

    He played with Monaco and was in the team that played against Porto in 2004 CL final, then he moved to Lyon and was part of the 7 times champions in a row with Lyon and also qualified for CL every years on and now plays for Seville wich is not a bad side either.

    Seville don’t want to let him go for £8m but if we can grab him it could be a big relief.

  162. SOLGOONER

    It wouldn’t matter too much, we only really want someone to make about 15 or so appearances over the season.

    This will come about when 2 of Verm, Djourou, and Kosc are injured at 1 time.

  163. Mr Furious Styles

    young guns dude going on about a rumour that frimpong has done his knee and is out for 9 mths. what the hell?

  164. Ole, can’t remember where I read it but apparently Sevilla President, Ramon Someone-or-other, was asked about it outside the stadium at the Braga game last night. He said ‘at present, the bid is insufficient’. No idea if that’s true or what.

    Agree with you on the near post thing btw. Standard stupid commentator cliche. Conceding from a set-piece – UNFORGIVEABLE, conceding at your near post – UNFORGIVEABLE. Striker clips one wide… ‘His manager will be delighted by those dangerous areas he keeps taking up’. Bollocks! Keepers have an ‘orrible job these days.

  165. Do you have a link Solgooner? I just looked at AS, and their story doesn’t say Sevilla has asked for a better offer. it just says they will evaluate the offer today.

  166. Ole,

    If we win the league by a country mile – my heart will truly soar and I will be the first person to come on this blog an apologise to all in sundry about my doubts and misconceptions, lest you think that I would even take the remotest morsel of pleasure in seeing us fall short.

    But my head and my heart tell me two different things Ole and it’s the same ding dong that I’ve seen in last years pre-season and the years before. Our continuing propensity to concede goals will undo all the progress we make in all the other areas both on and off the pitch.

    Albo,

    At least do yourself some credit when making assertions and attributing them to me by getting some facts right:

    1. I have never lambasted Wenger for being frugal. I think the model of self sustainment is something that he deserves immense credit for especially when building a stadium and developing a youth policy
    2. Nor have called for big name signings at stupendous prices, ever.
    3. And as for labelling me a “doomer” or as Ole calls me a “Chav”; I would have thought gentlemen of your ilk would at least put a little thought and effort into a proper slight, one that was even someway substantiated – rather than just finding the nearest pigeon hole ala school boy names.
    And finally, as for your point about me being selfish because we havn’t some tin pot – you don’t get it do you? A major trophy substantiates the youth policy and Wengers direction. It copper fastens the model as an example to other clubs and I would argue that this is more important for football in general than the mere satisfaction of Arsenal fans. This is the benchmark Wenger has set himself..!! This is the benchmark that he has received unilateral support from the Club and the majority of fans. And a European Cup would fill the only gap on his CV and elevate his status to possibly being one of the truly great managers the game has ever seen..!

  167. Stewwwwwwwwwwww,

    That was great, I love it when people share their early Arsenal memories on ACLF. I am as you guys know a Wenger baby, so have been overly spoilt for the last decade and will continue to be since our very own genius will be staying. I can`t really say how important that is, but it just is.

    Best news this year, by a country mile!!

    Anyhoo who is up next…I vote for FG, Shotta and Passenal to take their place in the team next.

  168. Ok Joe.

    Country mile. We’ll win by a country mile.

  169. Solgooner,

    I just re-read the article on AS. It does have that quote.

  170. The Frimpong story is a rumour at present. Not widely repeated either.

  171. Injury prone?! He’s made 111 first team appearances in four seasons… comparable to anyone. More than Rio, more than Carvalho, as many as Cannavaro. And he’s earmarked as back-up. He had an ankle injury last season which he recovered from in time to make the World Cup squad. That does not make him ‘injury prone’.

    Have you ever heard the expression, ‘don’t be a dick’, SOLGOONER?

  172. Joe’s heard it.

  173. Sometimes us in the pro-Arsenal corner are accused of rose tinted spectacles, unfounded optimism or being blind to the teams failings.
    At least we don’t have to make shit up to prove our point though.

  174. Joe, did you see my email earlier? Any thoughts yet?

  175. LOL@LA

    I see PB, has come on here for a moan. Now, now that is no way to behave especially after such a long absent. What I want to hear about are more stories about those glamorous holidays your always going on.

    On Giberto, he left Arsenal because Arsene won`t granutee him a place on the team every week, which he needed to make sure he play all those lovely side way(didn`t learn that at Arsenal
    ) passes he plays in the Brazilian MF. It`s all worked out well for him, hasn`t it.

    Now with a new manager in, he has been dropped from the Brazil squad and it doesn`t look like he has any chance of making it back in.

    On Pires, do you really think our beautiful ballerina could of taken the rough and tumble of PL for much longer. He can barely manage 60mins in La Liga. I personally think his career would be over by now had he stayed. Also there was that CL final business.

    The rest wanted to go to other clubs. Good riddance.

  176. I have a feeling that everyone has forgotten Bob`s lesson, laugh or you will cry.

    Joe is a joke to me now. I usually just skip his post or just laugh. His just a grumpy old man. That seems to think that he can convince us here on ACLF that he knows better than Arsene.

    I doubt if it came to it he could on any given subject, but FOOTBALL…… Dude PLEASEEEEEEE

  177. I want Squicalli and I want a nickname. Sqwilly doesn’t sound right. Squeaky? Hmmm. No. Skilly sounds OK. But anyway an experienced, versatile defender who can exchange choice swear-words as easily with Almunia as with Verm and the rest, and perhaps the odd Italian with Mannone, yep.

    Come on Sevilla. He’s got Arsenal DNA. He’s actually one of ours, out on loan all these years.

  178. lol zimpaul!

    Xavi is right the DNA fact works all the time!

  179. FRIMPONG JUST CONFIRMED OUT FOR THE SEASON.
    HURT WHILST TRAININGIN DUBLIN

  180. The fence is such an uncomfortable place to sit. Ask Alex Ice Cream man. Ask Joe. Ask anybody.

  181. Poor, poor boy. This was shaping up to be his breakout season.

  182. Correct Sol, Irish radio saying hes out for 9 months.

  183. Cruciate ligaments. I can hardly believe it. Such staggering bad luck.

  184. where has that been confirmed?

  185. Well, it’s a good thing we have Song, Eastmond, Denilson, Diaby plus Djourou and Nordveit at a pinch who can play some sort of DM role. Arsenal players are dropping like flies. Oh, has the new season started already?

  186. Wow, caps and everything Sol. You couldn’t wait to shout that one from the rooftops, could you?

    Hard to know what this means since he’s yet to play for the first team. I suppose Nordtveit and Eastmond can cover if we get really stretched.

  187. What was he doing out in Dublin

  188. I’m sorry for Frimpong.

  189. playing for the platinium one challenge against shamrock and Man U reserve

  190. the worst thing, if I remember well, is that he also missed last season with injury!

  191. Maria – not a moan… (the shame of it!) ~ just a question..which, in your inimitable, albeit poorly-spelled way, you have answered.
    Thought Gilberto was really the one fish angler-Arsene truly let go; but it’s easy to be sentimental. tbh – Not many of us thought he had the legs.. but he had the Spirit…
    Man, these bloody injuries…we are cursed!

  192. I’d say that we’ll see more of Wilshere playing deeper in midfield after this.

  193. I would held onto Pires until he was 45, just for sentimental reasons, coming on you know with 3 minutes to go.

  194. It’s true wilshere can do that job quite admirably too. He looks a tough lad.

  195. Pb – LOL, blame it on the crackberry. Good to see you back.

  196. Steww!!

    Wonderful…really wonderful post! Full marks for content and style.

  197. Really sad news about The frimp. I was looking forward to watching the young man get a few games under his belt.

    I suspect Wenger might recall Le Coq from his loan in France to make up the numbers. Le Coq did very well at the under 19 Euros.

  198. Great post for doomers, by some guy called Shane.

    I would say 95% of the people on here have no concept what so ever about how a football club should be ran. They really fail to understand how a self sufficient club should be ran. There is no club in the world other then maybe Bayern Munich that is ran as well as ours. Wenger has a whole lot to do with that. I am a fan of this club because it is ran how a football club should be ran. If you have no clue what I am talking about then I can direct to the club you really should be supporting.

    1) If you are looking for a club with a Multibillionaire owner that can by players like they are in a fantasy league then I will point you in the direction of Manchester City and Chelsea.

    2) If you prefer a club that is in hundreds of millions of dollars in debt yet continues to spend money like it is nothing with disregard to society and football, then I would like to direct you to Real Madrid and Barcelona.

    3) If you would like to support a club who’s owners bought the club by putting the club in debt yet they still seem to be allowed to buy players then I would like to direct you Manchester united and liverpool.

    4) If you would like to support a club that has shown what happens when you don’t live with in their means then you can go support Leeds or Portsmouth.

    5) Last but not least, if you would like to support a well ran club that respects the game and works within their own means by building a competitive squad and building the clubs stature through other means rather than just praying a super rich guy comes in saves us. If that is the club you are looking for than welcome to ARSENAL.

    Your choice but stop complaining if you are supporting the wrong club.

    Read More: http://younggunsblog.co.uk/2010/08/nordtveit-in-the-cold-as-wenger-moves-for-squillaci/#ixzz0x3w370kC

  199. Yeah, Maria, I like that guy’s posts. There are a couple of good regulars on those youth blogs.

  200. To think Arsene may sigh FOUR players this transfer window.

  201. Poor boy Frimp. Shit happens. We are stacked with midfielders though. I am sure Wenger will reconsider sending Lansbury out on loan.

    PS: Someone should box James ears until it is red. Would never make dare make such a shitty comment if Frank was around.

  202. Whatever happened to Bischoff?

  203. Bischoff never actually existed

  204. Bischoff was sold to a portuguese club last year

  205. Shame about frimpong but i doubt he would have got much game time with the first team – now its gonna be longer for the kid before hes back in the fold again

  206. Bisch was invited to explore his career in the big wide world ‘out there’.

  207. He would have got onto the bench now and again, probably played a “dead” game in the CL, shoo-in for CC side, maybe even FA Cup… So sad.

  208. It’s haggling time again, I tell ya one thing i would not like to try and sell Wenger anything, i’d only walk out knowing i’d just got done.

  209. Ha! That’s a great post Maria.

    I agree Duke…Wenger is doing the usual biz…getting his price. The players will come in.

  210. Lets hope Frimpong gets back his form for next season.

  211. …I really hope that the whole Gallas to spuds thing is just talk.

  212. Aany truth to the reports that Armand is off to Benfica for 4mill.

  213. 4 mil euros apparently (with the usual add on/sell on clauses no doubt)

    maybe then wel have enough to bid for the ozzie at fulham!!

  214. Four may return for Blackpool clash – Song, Djourou, Denilson and Fabregas could all figure

  215. Well written Steww, great stuff. This has to be teh best football blog around!

    Albo @ 12:03, I think that couldve been a guest article. well said.

    Frimpong? No way?!

    This is terrible news.

  216. Great guest posts this week – enjoyed everyone of them, thank you.
    Having lived in the countryside before my move “westwards” – a country mile is the distance you can cover in “ten minutes” with ten minutes actually being an undefinable amount of time by an undisclosed means of transport. This confuses my American wife and kids, especially when we were in Cornwall and London e.g. Houses of Parliament – 10 minutes, Borough Market – 10 minutes, Portreath beach – 10 minutes, the Lizard – 10 minutes. They don’t ask me anymore.
    Down Arsenal nostalga lane – my parents encouraged me as a very young boy in the late 50′s to support Arsenal (my Mum claiming that on the basis that she was born in Woolwich, which would make Frank exasperated). I can remember sending the results to my brother doing his National Service in Cyprus. I also remember attending the Wembley final against Swindon. Bobby, Bobby, Bobby Gould.
    Jumpers for goalposts…

  217. Very nice post Steww and I like the humor and a bit of history too. Keep it up and don’t drink all the beer.

  218. Am really devastated by the Frimpong news. Saw big things coming his way this season. Don’t understand why our emerging players always have their careers punctuated by injuries??

  219. I bet Wenger is a demon down the old car boots.

  220. I found a copy of Ray Illingworth’s Complete Guide To Spin Bowling at a carboot sale once. It had been left behind, discarded in a soggy cardboard box of various other tat that had failed to sell. I read it cover to cover the same night and I still have it. Teaches you all you need to know to be a gritty nuisance of a spin bowler… most of which is good old Northern toil and repetition. Thank you, Ray.

  221. MDGunner
    Wembley 1969. I had never heard of Swindon and thought Don Rogers was some piss-poor Country and Western singer. After being booted all over the place by Leeds United (that was some hard team, even their physio would put the boot in given a chance) in the 1968 Final Arsenal were going to walk it against a bunch of done nothing country bumpkins. I learnt a huge lesson that day. NEVER underestimate your opposition, whoever they are. ‘Arry? I hope you are twitching before your game against the Older Boys.

  222. Jaygooner
    Whenever I drove past Swindon on the M4 I noticed a horrible small of shit. I always hoped that it was their punishment for the ’69 Final.

  223. *smell

  224. haha MDGunner
    It was the Horse of the Year Show manure the Swindon fans took home with them thinking it was Wembley turf.

  225. Poor Frimpong. I was really looking forward to seeing him break into the first team this season. I hope he comes back stronger than ever.

    I hope Wenger can land Squillaci. I used to watch him while he was at Monaco and he was a solid defender. It’s not bad having a France international waiting on the wings, is it?

  226. top post!

  227. Holly shit. Milner cost Man City 26 million. I think they overpayed at least ten million pounds for him. What’s this world coming to?

  228. Gainsbourg..they got joleon lescott for 24 mil..joleon lescott!! 24 million!! And we got vermaelen for 10 million.

  229. Fukin el, we have just put in the same £2m bid for Schwarzer!!! cheeky bastads. we really are a tight ass club. couldnt even up it to £2.5m. now im all up for not bankrupting the club but fu*k about that is some hardball tactics. thing is we are not in the best position to mess around are we.

  230. Limpar – NOW there is no way Alex Song would be considered back up for CB..what a pity, it was only yesterday we were expecting big things from Frimp…9 months? out of words..

  231. Duke, that’s a perfect tactic after Schwarzer put in a transfer request. We may eventually end up paying more than the 2 millions but Fulham will be a club standing in the way of an old man’s last wish of a decent career.

  232. Remember your pledge Duke. I’m watching you.

  233. What I don’t understand is us going for a 30 years old defender with an 8 million Euros cost? Doesn’t sound like Arsene or Arsenal.

  234. Never negotiate with terrorists, Duke.

    We’ve just reminded them that there’s an offer there if they fancy taking £2 million for an old goalkeeper. I doubt anyone else will be going in for him. This is probably their last chance to make some money on him. Maybe they’ll say yes last minute, maybe we’ll say, ‘ok, 2.5mil’ last minute… or maybe it’s an elaborate smokescreen to cover up a move for Buffon.

    Personally I think there are 1 or 2 other goalkeepers we’re pursuing, wearing the suckers down (*nods at shotta*). But I don’t think Shay Given’s one of them for some reason.

  235. Duke Goonem, when a player has put in a transfer request, it strengthens your position. £2m for a 37 year old in the twilight of his career who may not even be first choice is a reasonable starting position. Arsene is talking up his existing options because he does not want Fulham to think he is desperate. If you are going to play transfer poker, you have to be prepared to keep the hand you’ve got if you can’t improve it, or you’ll be held to ransom for something that may not turn out to be as good as you thought. It’s always a risk.

    Another excellent post – you’ve really kept up the standards set this week Steww. I love the nostalgia too.

  236. I know mj. I’m absolutely gutted for him. He was my ‘one to watch’ this season. Last season’s one to watch was Ramsey. I should just stop fucking picking one to watch really shouldn’t I…

  237. The issue with contract negotiations and wages is that if you have a proper wage structure — instead of a “Pay twice as much as the player has been earning so far”-policy that clubs like Man City or Real MADrid adopt — even a “few” bucks extra will make a difference in the end. If you have the policy to only pay, say, 50k a week max for a player aged over 30, and that player demands 60k, it might seem like “just a bit more”. But in the end, other players will start demanding the same. They will use that example as a predecent and then you are faced with the choice of either paying more than you intend for ALL players or losing them. With a clear wage structure players know what they can expect. It benefits both the team and the players.

  238. Imagine playing poker against this!

    http://u.goal.com/28500/28548_news.jpg

  239. Can be make another cheeky 2 mill bid for Messi….

  240. HEY STEWW… nice deputing for YW.

    Well done there

  241. I think that’s right. It’s known now that there are two ‘keepers available. That means Arsene can play as hard a ball as he likes.

    I wonder though who the ‘other’ ‘keeper is in Limpars’ belief.

  242. Joe

    Apologies, as my writing was really not at all clear. Although my initial comment (that everything was ‘hunky-dory’) was aimed at you, the rest of the post was actually more a general comment aimed at the doom and gloom merchants that are so prevalent on the internet at the moment. It certainly wasn’t meant to be a comment on any specific posts you had made, and in retrospect should probably have been in a new paragraph!

    While I see your point about trophies, I have to disagree. I think you are arguing within the framework of a debate that is set by a media with skewed priorities and ideals. Wenger is a winner, and as such you are right to say that the benchmark that he has set himself will be to win trophies with this team. But winning a trophy needn’t be the benchmark by which it is judged.

    Let me put it this way – at the moment pretty much every article and opinion in the media obsesses with the lack of trophies and the lack of big name signings (with the occasional admission that we play beautiful football and, far more rarely, a grudging admission that the club is run extremely well).

    Now imagine that every article and talking head on sky sports instead obsessed with how brilliantly run the club is, how wonderful it is that ONE team is following a responsible, self-sustaining business model, how great it is that there is a wealth of young British talent emerging from one of the finest academies in the country, and how fantastic that one team is flying the flag for awe-inspiring attacking football (with the odd grudging admission that trophies have been lacking in the most recent years).

    In this context, do you think there would be nearly as much doom and gloom coming from the supporters? Nearly as much dissatisfaction with the recent trophy haul? I very much doubt it. But instead we have allowed a relatively hostile media to set the framework of all of the debate that surrounds our club, and the more people parrot it, the more pervasive it will become.

    Yes it hurts me like hell every time we loose a match in the league, or get knocked out of another cup competition, but I’m still immensely proud of the club, its players and certainly of its manager.

    (And, by the way, when it comes to ‘copper fastening the model as an example to other clubs’, I would argue that in this changed economic climate that has already occurred without us winning a trophy. You only need to look at Manchester United’s spending this summer to see that they are essentially following Wenger’s paradigm, but 5 years later than him. Smalling and particularly Bebe are very much signings of the Wenger mould, while Chicharito’s fine performance at the World Cup has obscured that even he is a classic Wenger signing – unknown, relatively cheap and with tons of potential.)

  243. Fulham? Unacceptable. No way they will get Vela. He is worth far more than 2 millions. 8 or so, at least. Though I wouldnt mind if we paid 2 mil and gave them Vela ON LOAN. But selling him? Bugger off, Fulham. I hope Schwarzer is going to throw some nice own goals when they face us.

  244. Vela maria!? they must be mad!

    I know you would personally go and locate Mr. Wenger and give him a piece of your mind if he was ever foolish enough to do that!

  245. They can say whatever
    I’ma do whatever
    No gain is forever
    Yup, you know this

    Tougher than a lion
    Ain’t no need in tryin’
    I live where the sky ends
    Yup, you know this

    Never lyin’, truth teller
    That Wenga reign, just won’t let up
    All black on, blacked out shades
    Red white tie

    I’ma rock this shit with passion, as in
    goin’ til they say stop
    And my runway never looked so clear
    I’m the best coach in right here

    No fear, and while you getting your cry on
    I’m signing my player on
    Sincere, I see you aiming at my pedestal
    I betta let ya’ know

    That I, I, I, I’m so hard
    Ah yeah, yeah, yeah, I’m so hard
    That I, I, I, I’m so hard
    Ah yeah, yeah, yeah, I’m so hard
    That I, I, I, I’m so hard
    Ah yeah, yeah, yeah, I’m so hard
    So hard, so hard, so hard, so hard

    Ah yeah, yeah, yeah
    That Wenga reign just won’t let up
    Ah yeah, yeah, yeah
    That Wenga reign just won’t let up
    Ah yeah, yeah, yeah
    That Wenga reign just won’t let up
    So hard, so hard, so hard, so hard

    All up on it
    Know you wanna clone it
    Aint like me
    That Hughes is a phony
    Ride that cheat, cheat, cheat like a pony
    Meet me at the top (top, top)
    Gettin’ lonely

    Who think they test me now
    Run through your town
    I shut it down
    Brilliant, resilient
    I won’t pay more than 2 million

  246. well, we are the ones giving them the impresssion he is that important to us.

    Vela is worth 2 of MS!

    I don’t rate him better than almunia… he had done absolutely nothing to prove himself a better keeper!

  247. Again, an excellent post Albo.

  248. You’ve gotta love Wenger (and Gazidis). £2 million for Schwarzer. Now that is playing hard ball. 36 year old keeper who has put in a transfer request. Take that Mark Ooze. We are no *suckers*. Also a strong message to the Almunia-bashers; Schwarzer is no automatic no. 1 if and when he is signed.

    It bears repeating; under AW no club, agent or player is going to rip off Arsenal FC, no f*cking way.

    PS: LA – Be careful when calling my name. I am lurking. LOL.

  249. That’s a lot of work there G4E.

  250. TS, maybe another keeper would do god for Almunia. I read a comment before and I agree Almunia played better when there was another experienced goalie in the squad.

    Fulham are crazy asking for Vela but I gues we cannot blame them for trying.

  251. G4E at 6.26 pm –

    thats a very valid point

  252. Excellent piece G4E @ 7:22 pm.Do You have a lot of time on your hands or is it the Arsenalytis?

  253. Albo
    You are a top poster. Excellent, clear, unassailable logic.

  254. Hey CBob…It’s all and anything for Arsenal and yes Shotta, to ease up the Arsenalitis pressure :)

  255. Agreed Steww, I would say that albo’s two posts have been the best of the day. Brilliant stuff!

    Read this comment, this has to be one of the silliest comments ever to be written. Regarding a list of the PL’s top 10 players of all time.

    “I’m an arsenal fan, and as much as it pains me to say it… Roy keane should definatley be on this list, vieira wouldn’t be the player he was without Roy keane

  256. MJ

    Maybe it’s another one of those smoke screens.

  257. Thanks so much steww. Been reading the blog religiously for the last couple of years but only plucked up the courage to actually say something for the first time today!

  258. G4E – I hope its not just smoke without fire!
    Albo – I thank heavens you did!

  259. Steww,

    I’ve been listening to electro re-mixes of Wheatus for the last hour. Once that chorus snakes it’s way into your brain, that’s it. All hope is lost.

    -

    “Grimandi Knows.”

    Someone, on another Arsenal blog wrote that, can’t remember where. Made sense to me. Plenty of evidence. Like Kos!

    I did read somewhere that Ajax might need to sell a few players, a ‘keeper too. Probably on D(**Ms)-Day. The report might have been inaccurate.

  260. Albo – Agreed with the rest of the “massive”. Those were two incisive pieces. It may cause some reflection by the merchants of doom and gloom. I hope.

  261. Welcome to ACLF Albo – now that you’ve broken your duck, don’t be a stranger. That was real quality posting.

  262. http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/jay-simpson-joins-hull-city?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+arsenal-news+%28News+Feed%29

    It’s official then. It’s always hard to see a prospect go, but he was not going to break into the first team. Had the 25 player rule not been in place, he may have been given further opportunities, but it wasn’t to be. I hope he carves out a good career for himself and if he makes it to a higher level, I’m sure there will be a suitable sell-on clause so that Arsenal benefit from his development.

  263. I agree passenal, its a shame.

    But with JET, Vela and the like in front of him in the pecking order it was all he could do.

    I too hope he has a good career and am sure he will end up a premier league regular at some stage.

  264. I wish Jay Simpson the best. Its reallyis hard to see these youngsters go. I actually thought he would make it at Arsenal.

    Such is life

    Anyway he is still in the game and will get to play.

  265. Thanks Stew. Lovely post.

    A nice trip down memory lane.

  266. But….Hull ??? Oh Lord.

  267. I’m sure he will be disappointed not to have made it at Arsenal especially as he is supposedly an Arsenal supporter, but at least thanks to the education he has had at Arsenal, he will be able to play football and make a good living for himself. Which is preferable to the life he might have had without that opportunity. Hopefully he will appreciate that and not be bitter about it. It is really tough to make it in football and only the mentally strong and supremely talented will do so.

  268. One day, when Jay has just enjoyed his break through season at the Nou Camp we can get him back for peanuts thanks to that lovely North London DNA.
    Seriously, I wish him all the best. We keep feeding these English players into the league don’t we?

  269. Paulie Walnuts

    Albo,

    Good stuff – keep it coming

    All the best to Jay S at `ull

    Gallas having a medical at the Tots tomorrow …

  270. Thanks guys. It is a shame about Simpson, but I think the problem was that there are not just a host of names ahead of him but there are also players with perhaps more quality behind him too. JET, Wellington Silva and Afobe will all be looking to break into the 1st team squad in the next year or 2 and look capable of leap-frogging him. Hope he does well though…

  271. Campbell came to win trophies, Gallas went for money.

  272. Simpson will do well wherever he goes – he’s a hard worker with a great attitude.

    Hi, Albo – lovely to meet you.

  273. Poor old Gallas has scraped the bottom of the barrel and is left with Tottenham as his only option.

  274. Gallas is a superb player, but you’d think they’d go for someone with a better injury record, given their issues at CB.
    I bet they only want him because he was previously with us. They want to feel that they prised him away from us. As opposed to being daft enough to meet his wage demands.

  275. Is gallas seriously going to spurs?! It looks like he’s on a london merry go round next hell be at west ham

  276. We’re currently 2-0 up in the Platinum One challenge against Man U Reserves. JET (penalty) and Wellington Silva.

  277. He is a good defender, but each season with us he spent at least 1/3rd of it injured. He was never a ‘gunner’ so I’m pretty much indifferent to his departure and his final destination. He is the epitome of the modern day football mercenary. Arsenal made him a good offer but he thought he could do better elsewhere so good riddance to bad rubbish.

  278. And as I write, 2-1. Curses.

  279. It’s now 2 – 1 FG

  280. Come on Arsenal!

  281. Pass, FG….where are you guys getting the scores from?…any links?

  282. Albo…you’ve been holding out on us. :)
    Should have spoken up long ago. Thanks for joining in.

  283. Young Guns updates.

  284. thanks Fg…

  285. Young Guns Twitter updates Arseman

  286. 2 – 1 to the Arsenal

  287. Must also say welcome to Albo. Keep the posts coming.

    Delia I don’t know if you knew that there was A site for Charles Buchan’s Football Monthly but it’s here.

    http://www.charlesbuchansfootballmonthly.com/

    Finally, why does Joe try to ruin everybody’s day. The miserable sod.

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  288. Thanks Passenal…just wish there was some way we could watch it…Can’t wait to see Wellington Silva play!!!

  289. I agree. He scored the winning goal Arseman. Hopefully it won’t be long until he becomes official.

  290. Passenal, was that the final score?

  291. We will sign Wellington Silva properly when he is 18, in January, according to YG.

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  293. Two things occurred to me after reading that post. Firstly, to be positive about Arsenal is infinitely more enjoyable. Secondly, although I think I understand why Frank doesn’t post anymore, I do miss his no nonsense, informed positivity for the reason above.

    I will continue to enjoy supporting Arsenal, thanks Steww for stirring thoughts and memories, an enjoyable read.

  294. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

  295. You will not hear much in the media about Wellington Silva due to him not signing for the mancs.

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  297. Too true dups….but thats how we like it….no hype…and then BAM!…they won’t know what hit them.

  298. Man U reserves won on Sunday. We beat them tonight. So if we win against Shamrock Rovers it will give us some more shiny things.

  299. dupsffokcuf – yes that was the final score. And you are right about manure. When they sign a player it’s like the second coming of the messiah, but when it’s an Arsenal player…

  300. As long as goals are not taken into account dupsffokcuf as manure beat Shamrock by 3 – 0, so we will have to better their score.

  301. Matty, you can read Frank’s thoughts at

    http://londonletter.wordpress.com/

  302. According to the hacks at sky….Gallas is set for a medical at the spuds…

    http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_6323987,00.html

  303. Gallas will be a Spud according to reports. He is still a good player but the dressing room will be better without him.

  304. Is this Snap thingy bothering anyone else?

  305. I know these people are professionals but how can Gallas want to play for 3 rival London teams.

  306. Pain in the arse Big Al.

  307. F*ck off Albo!!!

  308. Phew, that’s good to hear.

  309. Obviously a joke there.

  310. is gallas on some kind of london merry go round, next he will be at west ham

  311. I was joking OOU.

  312. Gallas has the morals of a french alley cat. or not to be racist it could be any nationality alley cat.

  313. Clive Allen played for Three london teams didnt he?

  314. so, nasri, frimpong…whos next..why are we so damn injury prone fgs!

  315. At least an alley cat defends it’s own territory.

  316. If the boss really wants Schwarzer and we miss getting him because we are not willing to throw in an extra 1M then we are doing wrong by the players and the fans. 1 – 2M is not going to be any risk to our long term financial status. If we have to overpay slightly this one time it does not send us over to the dark side and forever lead us to overpaying for players and eventual financial disaster. If we are really bidding on him and the transfer request would suggest we are then obviously our management thinks he will help us. Lets go get him and get on with the business of winning the title. Dilly dallying over the last 1M is not helping the team.

  317. Bill ffs when will you ever learn. Arsenal will not pay over the top for any player. He is not worth more than 2 million at his age.

  318. I don’t think I would compare him to an alley cat because as dupsffokcuf says an alley cat at least defends it’s own territory! He is a complete nomad, no loyalty to any particular territory, more a case of wherever he lays his hat…

  319. So thats where Frank is…obviously to big for aclf now.

  320. I personally don’t think he is even worth the 2 million offered.

  321. aha Passenal, like Paul Young.

  322. F*ckoffspuds,

    he is for us coz we need a keeper! we should go to £3m i reckon. Given is never coming, shitty wont allow it.

  323. I would like to watch a poker game (high stakes) with Bill, AIC, Joe and Wenger.

    My vote for the winner – Wenger.

  324. I could put Duke in that game as well.

  325. We heard the same crap about Arshavin – that we were too tight to pay enough and nearly lost him. We heard the same shite about the lesser Ronaldo, that for the sake of a paltry 12 million we could have had him.
    People who write this display a breathtaking inability to understand how this club has been run for years and years.

  326. do you guys think wellington silva could play in the premier league if he is thaat good or at least fa cup and stuff like that

  327. Duke did you notice how your last comment looked very much like gooner2′s posts.

  328. well said Bill. of course on the surface Schwarzer isnt worth £2-3m but we need a decent keeper. we got Chamakh an excellent player for nowt, fukin love a freebie but cant just once pay a little over.

  329. He will Zap, after January.

  330. who is gooner2?

  331. I’m off to read me book and and warm the bed for my better half. Good night folks, and thanks to those who read and enjoyed the piece, this has been one of the best days chatting here. Hardly a crumb of crap from the D&G table has fallen into our beautiful feast of Arsenal love.

  332. Fucking glad Bill & Duke do not run my finances.

  333. Good book I hope, (not some sordid mag).

  334. Fulham want 4 millions. A million more we could get Shay Given who is younger and better. I think we should stick with Almunia and bring in Chesney in as second keeper.

  335. well here is the thing dups,

    if we refuse to pay more then £2m for Schwarzer and end up playing Al n fabianski this seaon we will lose more then Two fukin mil in prize money.

  336. niiiice im looking forward to seeing him already

  337. Bill & Duke, sounds like a couple of good ol country boys.

  338. Got a crystal ball have you Duke?

  339. I do not want to argue if Schwarzer is better then almunia. We have covered that ground. However if the boss thinks we need a new keeper then it is not fair to the fans, to our players and especially to Almunia to have him in this limbo that he an the team is now in.

    If we need new GK lets get him. Missing the player the boss thinks will help the team because of $1M and hurting our chance to win just so we can say that we never overpay is dumb.

  340. i would personally keep fabianski..maybe loan him out i think wenger should trust szsezsny enough to have him as the back up

  341. talking of bad luck Frimpong was just starting to sniff around the 1st team and now he is rued out for 9 months.Sorry for the lad

  342. Fulham, with their great defence (half of which some fans wanted at Arsenal) & keeper were 12th conceding 46 goals last season.

    Some improvement for 4 million that would be.

  343. Zap – we have signed Silva and have paid 65% of the transfer fee, but he can’t play for us until his 18th birthday (FIFA rules don’t let Brazilians play in Europe until they are 18). He had a training visa this summer (and was granted an extension so he can play in the Platinum One Challenge) but can’t officially play for us until Jan 2011.

  344. Gallas to the spurs?

    Blow wow!

    That guy seems to be a bit of a weirdo!

  345. Bill you still do not get it do you. The boss thinks we need a keeper to push Almunia. He does not think Schwarzer is worth more than 2 million for that position. So who is correct, you or him?

  346. dupsffokcuf – thanks, much appreciated.

  347. I agree dupsffokcuf, Schwarzer is not necessarily coming in as first choice. He is there to compete with Almunia, so £2m sounds about right.

  348. But passenal Fulham wont sell for £2m , he is their best player. so what then? we have no one to compete with Al and the goalkeeping circus will continue?

  349. Passenal, it really annoys me that they cannot see that a keeper behind a mass defence is going to look better than a keeper in an attacking side.

    If your team leaves only 1 or 2 defenders back when you attack it leaves more chances of one on one with your keeper.

    Conversely, if you do not have attacking full backs and your centre backs stay at home your keeper has few chances of one on one.

  350. Duke, so be it. It Wenger does not think he is worth more then who am I to argue. I bet he watches more Fulham games than me or you.

  351. Duke it’s like I said earlier, Arsenal probably have their upper limit as to how much they think he is worth to them, they will start the bidding as low as possible so that they can make the best possible deal. I think Arsene and Ivan are experienced enough to be able to play this game, but you always have to be prepared to walk away or you leave yourself open to the mercy of the selling club.

  352. im confident Al will save one on ones and pens. its the easy things he f*cks up. like crosses and weak shots to the center of goal.

  353. “but you always have to be prepared to walk away or you leave yourself open to the mercy of the selling club.”

    Or lose a lot of money gambling, Passenal.

  354. Just like Schwarzer & Given then Duke.

  355. “like crosses and weak shots to the center of goal.”

    When has Almunia been responsible for lots of (weak shots to the center of goal)?

  356. dups im never gunner win this one, goodnight mate.

    we should pay 3 though.

  357. lol Duke. 2 million. Goodnight.

  358. I’m fighting for my place in the ACLF team here Duke.

  359. feel so sorry for frimpong he was really looking like he could challenge for some defensive midfield duty and what a horrible injury aswell, i pray he gets back to full fitness with no hiccups.

  360. Thanks albo..

    i really hope highlights of the platinum one challege will be on youtube

  361. Gallas to the Spuds is the best punishment for both.

  362. What then is that Schwartzer stays in Fulham and has another average season. The mighty Arsenal meanwhile will roll on.

  363. when van persie came on against liverpool it was just… wow..we started to actually penetrate, its like the perfect example of a lock needing a key, and van persie was the key, it was like a wizard was summoned when everybody needed him..what a damn brilliant player he is turning into

  364. Cannot argue with that Zap.

    You sorted this yet?

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  365. no mayn i dunno how to do it

  366. THe club has its principles — and it has to keep its principles. Arsenal can never EVER pay over the odds. Not for wages, not for transfer fees. If we do it even once, we leave ourselves exposed and all in all we are in a weaker position for future transfers of any kind.

  367. .0
    /ll\
    ll
    /\o

    see..

  368. Evil..your avatar sure does match your name

  369. unfortunately i cant find silva’s goal yet

  370. Tennessee Arsenal

    What a good post! Thanks.

  371. If Gallas really goes to Sp*ds…whatever? I mean, he was never really “Arsenal” and while I think he is a very good defender and I liked him playing for us, in the end I never really cared about him. He always had this mercenary aura about him and if he goes it will just prove that he is a man without loyalty. Whatever, Gallas, whatever.

  372. Btw has anyone seen cesc’s photo in the official profile pic on arsenal.com…looks like xavi and co. have taken revenge on us by feeding him too much paella! he looks fat!

  373. PIRESAHOLIC (8:02am) – please be advised that “mercurial” means inconsistent. I think the term you were looking for may have been “imperious”?

  374. Crafty Byson, it can also mean, eloquence or shrewdness.

  375. does anyone really care though dups

  376. your up pretty late dups, how is it going bearing the late night wind with your sails

  377. Stupid Spuds always fighting for our left overs.

  378. youre right maria

  379. tbh some of our avatars match the personality, maria with your smily optomistic face, crafty bison with a…crafty bison look and evil with a…evil look and then bill the scary boring guy lol

  380. Lol, very true.

    Leave Dups alone his trying to get on the ACLF team. You should be too. While you made the squad, you didn`t make it to the first eleven if I remember rightly.

    Also what’s the shiny new toy that’s got everyone excited.

  381. hay i should be on the first team, i hear bill is whats up with that..im not having that r u serious bill! Hell put the defenders too sleep with another one of his boring statements to let the oposition score easily!!

  382. LOOOOOOL.

    He made it because you have to be a little crazy to be a goalie and one thing about Bill is he is never shys away from a fight. (I mean he gets tons of abuse from us everyday.)

    The fact is he would keep drill that defence till they were defending in their sleep leaving the likes of myself and S-G the confidence to attack, attack, attack.

  383. haha what are u and shotta gunna the two forwards..oh well i would be happy if i am the impact sub, walcott v barcelona kind of thing

  384. Yes that’s what I like to hear. Fight for your place Zap!!!

  385. so whats the team in full?

  386. shiny new toy? whats that..?

  387. i am in a bit of a dilemma, although i am algerian, morocco runs in my blood and its where my family live and where i visit, and what dya know their playing eachother in the cup of nations qualifyers!!!! i dont know who to support..

  388. I was watching Arse al TV and they claim that Chamack ws born in France but hoose to pay for Morroco is that true Zap.

    I think it would have to be Morroco for me, guys are hotter, fabolous beaches and some nice mosques and markets. I love Morroco.

  389. maria.

    you should go to algeria,guys are hotters believe me.

  390. New post up.

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