Arsene mentioned in his Manager’s Email about the need for the players to retain humility in their quest for silverware. Almost suspiciously in tandem with that Cesc offered the view that the captaincy has not changed him. I would suggest that it has but from the club point of view, in a positive manner. Fabregas is not going to be a Tony Adams shouter, they appear to be different personalities. He is of the Bobby Moore school of captaincy, leading by example, encouraging and presumably handing out chastisements when they are required.
However, in his play, maturity is shining through. He is helped this season by having a united dressing room with the biggest distraction removed to wetter surroundings. His performances this season seem unshackled, the burdens of inconsistency in the team as a whole relieving the necessity to single-handedly win games. That is not to decry his influence this season where in midfield, he has been the fulcrum of the side. The sporadic reappearance of Tomas Rosicky and the first full season of Andrei Arshavin has shared the weight. Returning to the first team will mean Samir Nasri and Theo Walcott can also accept their responsibilities for creation. Most players are chipping in with goals – Sagna and Clichy presumably saving their efforts for the winter – which is easing the need for any superman heroics on the Spaniards part.
The questions raised about William Gallas’ mental state are needless and insulting on the part of the interrogator. Events referred to were 12 months ago and nothing since he returned to the side should have led anyone to believe there has been a problem with his attitude. He has been utterly professional in his outlook and this season, consistent in performance, no little doubt due to the presence of a naturally left-sided central defender as a partner but also the solidity of Vermaelen’s outings.
The Belgian noted the start to the season, quietly underlining the determination of the squad to challenge for trophies:
If we look at the rankings, we are second and it is a message to other teams that we are involved in the race to be champions. It is good that we have had a good series of games. It is important to continue and stay focused on every game because there are a lot of important games.
To use a cliche, they are all important games. Whilst doing well in the ‘mini-league’ between the top four is important, three points gained in those matches count for the same as those won against lower placed sides which is where failings were highlighted last season. The cobwebs which were so clearly on display against the likes of Hull and Stoke have so far, been majestically swept away. That attitude needs to continue.
Injuries undoubtedly count but thus far, the squad has coped with them. More will come such is the nature of football but there are enough capable players in the squad to minimise their impact. On which front, the impending return of Theo Walcott can only help since Nicklas Bendtner has told the Danish media that he will be having a hernia op shortly. Presumably that means that he will not be back in the squad until December. Whilst there is cover on the right, a naturally attacking player serves Arsene well with Eboue providing the defensive requirement should he need that option.
Going into the break in second place with a game in hand sets up the uninterrupted club schedule nicely until Winter’s international friendlies. Building upon that is crucial to a challenge being made successfully next May.
’til Tomorrow























First again? Great read! What could these gunners be named when they win it all? The Cescy babes?
By: arsenalteranga on November 10, 2009
at 11:23 am
Only fabregas, you’ve always struck me as being about as average as a wet sock.
Conclusion: There’s little hope of improvement. At best you will become a dry sock.
By: LimparAssist on November 10, 2009
at 11:37 am
Great article YW. I feel roused again. As we begin to surface on the radar of the football zeitgeist, humility really is the key I think. 45 mins by 45 mins boys…
By: LimparAssist on November 10, 2009
at 11:39 am
great post yogi.
Weve got such a dedicated professional group of players. Beating sunderland is a must. Beating Chelsea in succession wuld realy send shockwaves through the media.
I get the feeling this season that this group of players will not so much as entertain letting hype about themselves go to their heads. They have their heads down and are very much focused on the task at hand.
People forget what a massive adjustment the first third of last season was. We lost 3 of our 4 first choice midfielders (hleb,flamini,rosicky). Adebayor showed his true colours to the press and degraded 20% on the pitch, we had the whole willy g situation etc… To top it off we lost our captain and arguably best player for 4 and a half months.
Arsene knows, and this season injuries aside everything is in place. It’s always been there. When people look at the big picture of 4 seasons without a trophy they miss the truth. Every little thing that has happened has largley been due to an inordinate amount of bad luck. If we get the luck with injuries alone this season, its ours to lose.
By: deano on November 10, 2009
at 11:45 am
Walter
Whats the difference between this season and last? Simple Adebayor.This guy poisoned the dressing room.He got his 80k a week and strolled around the pitch,he couldnt be bothered.And no games summed it up better than the two biggest games of the season the CL semi’s.
When Adebayor left it was like a cancer was removed from the club.Its no coincidence we are scoring more goals since he left
By: Kev the clockender on November 10, 2009
at 12:13 pm
Walter, no offense, but you are seeking a little bit too much publicity. Great articles but perhaps just post a link.
By: haho on November 10, 2009
at 12:25 pm
Kev the team has also gelled together nicely and play for each other unlike last season when it was everyone for himself. One year added experience helps. When we win this season would it be like the youngest side to win it?
Walter a minor correction -it was 5-1 against Portsmouth.
Denilson was my most improved player last season.
By: Firstlady on November 10, 2009
at 12:40 pm
Kev, the clockender.
Spot on. Expect him to be touting himself for a move from Man City within the next 18 months.
By: zicoinexile on November 10, 2009
at 12:43 pm
Walter is clearly an undergraduate student with a little too much time on his hands.
Good points but we don’t want an essay.
By: Arse Baggins on November 10, 2009
at 12:43 pm
http://www.arsenal.com/match-menu/3149295/first-team/arsenal-v-portsmouth?tab=report
By: perrygroves on November 10, 2009
at 12:47 pm
First lady…haven’t you heard? You can’t win anything with kids.
By: Darius Stone on November 10, 2009
at 12:49 pm
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By: Humility & Professionalism – The Cornerstones Of Champions? « A … on November 10, 2009
at 12:51 pm
So Cashley took the field against United with blood awash with painkillers to stem the gnawing discomfort of a depressed fracture to his fibia.
The injury was exacerbated (possibly not as a result of the weak-willed, flappy-arsed challenge of a lank scotch twat called Dazzy Fletch) – and now he’s out for a month (snigger).
Would Arsene Wenger have taken such a risk with one of our players? I think not. Our AW does all he can to prolong the careers of his charges, which includes placing trust in their understudies rather than pumping them full of anaesthetic to get them through a game.
With Kieran Gibbs and Armand Traore (not to mention Sylvester), we have of course an embarrassment of riches at left-back. If the shoe were on the other foot though, and Wenger faced with injuries to Ferreira, Zhirkov and Cole – I would fully expect him to put his faith in young Sam Hutchinson – as he has done with Gibbs, Clichy, and Gilbert in the past.
Chelsea continually live up to their dastardly image as the bad guys in some rubbish sport film; stopping at nothing, least of all ethical quandaries, to get a result. You’ve got to love how despicable they are – it makes us look like the Mighty Ducks.
Of course we’d have to cast someone stronger than Emilio Estevez in the role of AW. I’m thinking Gregory Peck. No…half a second… Clint Eastwood.
By: LimparAssist on November 10, 2009
at 12:53 pm
Players I would like to see more of this campaign:
Wilshere (5 min at the end of a game is all we ask for, Boss)
Denilson
Gibbs (will get a run now that Clichy’s out)
Fabianski (remember that double stop in the CC last year? think he could be something)
Also, curious what our best attacking line-up would be. Nasri, Fab, Song, Arsh, RVP, Walcott?
By: Bergkamp Ghoulfest on November 10, 2009
at 12:53 pm
Forgot Rosicky! At full fitness, he has to be in there somewhere.
By: Bergkamp Ghoulfest on November 10, 2009
at 12:54 pm
The main difference is the 4-3-3 and how well the team has adapted to it.
By: jkasper on November 10, 2009
at 1:00 pm
toure wants out. lets get get him. The Ivory Coast star was linked
with the Eastlands outfit after
his brother, Kolo, stated that he
would like to play alongside his
sibling, but Dimitri Seluk has
ruled that out.
According to the agent, Toure is
dismayed at Barcelona and
could well consider forcing his
way out of the European
champions.
“If Barca do not want Yaya then
I can name eight other clubs,
some of the biggest in the
world, who are interested in
signing him,” the representative
told radio station RAC-1.
“One thing I can say, though, is
that if he does leave Barca, he
will not go to Manchester City
because he will sign for a bigger
club.”
After seeing his client start only
four matches this season,
Toure’s agent expressed his
dismay at having penned a new
deal at Camp Nou in the
summer.
“We understand that in any big
team there will be rotation, but
why is it always the same player
that is rotated?” he questioned.
“How come [Seydou] Keita has
played ten games and Yaya
four?
“A few months ago we renewed
the contract with Barcelona,
despite having offers from some
very big clubs.
“My question now is why did
Barca want to renew Yaya’s
deal? To have him on the
bench? I do not understand.
“We respect the decisions made
by the coach and will not say
anything against what he
decides.”
By: gh gooner on November 10, 2009
at 1:01 pm
Yaya would not get into the team ahead of Alex Song.
By: LimparAssist on November 10, 2009
at 1:16 pm
Limpar Assist.
Do you think it’s possible that glory hunting ficklers masquerading as Arsenal fans are so blinded by their desire to see a big name signing that they’re incapable of acknowledging how good our players are?
For one, Yaya Toure failed his trial at Arsenal when he was Song’s age, and perhaps folks should have a little faith in Wenger for making a decision to keep a hold of Song instead of shipping him out.
By: Darius Stone on November 10, 2009
at 1:25 pm
Hi YW, great article as always. This squad definitely has what it takes to go all the way. Sometimes losing is a good thing as I’m sure the team will learn from the defeats and improve. It’s funny that the general consensus among the media seems to be one of reluctant endorsement of us as title contenders as they hopefully await our ‘inevitable’ collapse, which according to their expert opinion should be anytime soon. Hope our squad proves them wrong, dead wrong. Up Gunners!
By: legio on November 10, 2009
at 1:27 pm
Firstly I think walter should have gotten a lot more credit for his summaries of the squad and season comparisons. A short essay but why not post here, especially considering it’s almost faultless accuracy.
Great work Walter!
But more importantly Limpar surely Edward Norton for Wenger?
By: els on November 10, 2009
at 1:29 pm
walter, well written..
Glad u just put it straight here; saved me going on to another link… LOL
U the walter from untold arsenal?
By: team spirit on November 10, 2009
at 1:31 pm
exactly els… you beat me to it.
By: team spirit on November 10, 2009
at 1:32 pm
ok, just been to untold and seen the article there… so that answers my questions.
Still no probs about posting it here… its well worht reading
By: team spirit on November 10, 2009
at 1:34 pm
He is the Walter from UA Team Spirit. He is also a referee.
By: Dupsffokcuf on November 10, 2009
at 1:35 pm
I suppose should not get too far ahead but the end of January beginning of Feb looks like it will test the fluency of the whole squad.
Great post you always have a different angle on the info out their. Thanxs Yogi
By: Diaminedave on November 10, 2009
at 1:43 pm
Actually, I can see how Adebayor’s negative influence could’ve made a bad example. He with his lazyness and big money earning isn’t exactly the right example for our young players. Now with guys like Cesc, Vermaelen etc. giving it all, all our young players obviously get a motivation bonus.
By: EvilFiek on November 10, 2009
at 2:03 pm
uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/10112009/2/arsenal-bendtner-four-weeks.html. get well soon bendy.
By: goonadikt on November 10, 2009
at 2:04 pm
um walter…. isn’t that from the site, making the arsenal? definitely is mate
By: russian gooner on November 10, 2009
at 2:19 pm
this is pretty funny:
http://www.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=146962
I think the only real performance the crap togo thing put in was against us and he didn’t do that for Citeh. He did it for himself. Because he had something to prove? who knows how his stupid mind works.
I’ll admit that I was a bit worried that he’d found his form earlier this season (especially given that all the commentators were orgasming at the mention of his name for some reason), but a lot of people said that he’d revert back to his old ways. How right they were. May the ex-monaco togo thing never change.
By: abid on November 10, 2009
at 2:24 pm
Agree.
LimparAssist on November 10, 2009
at 11:37 am
By: Luke on November 10, 2009
at 2:34 pm
Haha, thanks Abid. Took the City fans long enough to realise why we dumped him when we did. Guess they were too trusting in what the media says about us Gunners fans giving him so much stick without mentioning what he did to make us hate him so much. Thanks again =)
By: legio on November 10, 2009
at 2:37 pm
These are still early days. I don’t care if Arsenal score 98 goals but wina trophy.
We have to be realistic that on certain days the gunners aint going to score aone or even two goals.This is because teams may park a truck and allied to a super goalie would frustrate the gunners.
Even so we have to make sure the defenders concentrate 110% and dont awol at set pieces and corner kicks.
By: James Smith on November 10, 2009
at 2:40 pm
This is for the non believers.
ARSENE KNOWS!
http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/13082009/63/hleb-wrong-leave-gunners.html
By: Planx on November 10, 2009
at 2:46 pm
That was one heck of a long essay. Reminds me of someone, who used to post here. I think he went by Nymarcus?
By: Ateeb on November 10, 2009
at 3:17 pm
jkasper you are spot on.
“The main difference is the 4-3-3 and how well the team has adapted to it.”
As much as I enjoyed reading Walter’s essay the most blidingly obvious reason is the change to a 4-3-3. I was very critical of whether Van Persie could adapt well to this change as he seemed to be attuned to playing as a SS but in all fairness he now seems to be the perfect striker. Able to score goals as well as provide.
I have also been a harsh critic of Fab4 but this seasons performances has been crucial to our campaign thus far. It is encouraging to see that he is working hard to iron out the weaker aspects of his game, his shooting and goal scoring have improved significantly and as such has contributed to over 20 goals so far.
I think most gooners who have followed this young Arsenal team for the past 4 years realise that we have an abundance of talent at this club and it is becoming obvious that the academy is producing wonderful talents that have been brought up playing the 4-3-3 system that there is healthy competition for places
By: 8 inch knob on November 10, 2009
at 3:18 pm
Our form is great its better having people marvel at our team to sensational extremes, rather than the constant talk of crisis..
If previous game form could be predicted with such certainty, would there be a reason to watch football?
By: Kitchen Sink on November 10, 2009
at 3:26 pm
Darius, from what I’ve seen of Yaya he seems a very decent player, and being a Toure he’s doubtless a lovely guy to boot. But he wouldn’t be afforded half the time on the ball in the Premiership as he gets in La Liga.
It’s a pace of game that Song has grown up with and now mastered. Song uses a whole armoury of little shoulder drops, half turns and ball shielding skills to buy himself time where others cannot.
els, Ed Norton is an interesting thought. I am also considering handing an audition to John Hurt – though I’m not sure he’s quite still got the physical strength for the role. But then I guess by that token we can safely, but sadly, rule out Gregory Peck.
By: LimparAssist on November 10, 2009
at 3:29 pm
Thanks for the link Abid…that was excellent!
By: axis on November 10, 2009
at 3:32 pm
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By: Gunner4Ever on November 10, 2009
at 3:50 pm
Limps,
While I agree that Alex Song has more than acquitted himself and is on the road to becoming a serious talent, to say that he would get into any team ahead of someone like Yaya is a serious stretch IMO. I watched YAYA not only anchor midfield last year against the chavs in the CL semis, but also seamlessly fill in at CB when they were 1-0 down with 10 men and only minutes left to go. It is junctures like this when real leaders stand up and be counted – and if I may respectfully say – that not only did YAYA stand up to be counted but generally played like a colossus that night at a point in the season when it mattered most.
Darius – Im not so sure that Wenger would turn away YAYA now! As brilliant as he is in scouting young talent – even AW doesn’t always get it right. Didn’t he also turn down Drogba and Eto??
The team is playing magnificently – and it really is heartwarming to see us play so well. And I think our young captain is developing into a great leader, especially when he plays things down in post match interviews while also mentioning that we need to be tighter defensively.
This team has a little way to go yet to fulfill its enormous potential. And Im quite happy to see us skip along merrily without the attention. But lets not overhype it. It was only 2 years ago when we were playing outstanding football and were way out in front – and we all knew what happened then.
Yaya Toure has a European Cup medal. And he won it by defeating the best teams in Europe by playing magnificent football. Its something we should respect and aspire to as a Club and as fans of the game.
By: Joe on November 10, 2009
at 3:51 pm
The humility that continues to be shown by our players is impressive. Lesson of mistakes past seemingly well learned. It is indeed moment like these that we, the GUNNERS, should celebrate no less.
It also remains our duty, as supporter, to raise our voice even higher when times are harder, when a pass goes astray and backs are against the wall. It is for us to keep that humility as well. We’ve come this far, and the need for Fickle-rs to be rooted out remains unwavering.
Now is the time to pile up our support reserves and resources, for when we are called to duty.
Happy GUNNERING…
By: SimbArsenal on November 10, 2009
at 4:05 pm
F*ck Off “Below Average” Howard.
By: Gunner4Ever on November 10, 2009
at 4:07 pm
Good read as ever, YW. These interlulls must be a bloody challenge but you always come up with the goods.
Sunderland will be a dangerous game as it is yet another difficult trip after heavy midweek fixtures. This will be particularly so if France &/or Russia are unsuccessful.
Gh-gooner’s introduction to the Yaya topic would put me off him straight away.
He looks a decent but limited player going forward from what I have seen & cannot get in the Barca side, so why should he be in ours?
I believe AW said there were work permit problems when we looked at him a few years back but he hasn’t pushed ‘the boat out’ to get him since so maybe he didn’t impress enough either.
Another drawback would be that if he were signed he would vie for the Song role, which would mean we would lose both at ACN times.
Anyway if AW fancies him we shall see but I doubt it very much.
Denilson should be back before the ACN but it is the one position, where there maybe room for a signing. Maybe a Grimondi type squad man who can do a job until Coquelin or Eastmond are ready.
Having said that Ramsey did ok for me against Wolves in the more defensive role but Song’s appearance showed what a difference he makes. He was near faultless & that is no slight on Diaby, who was not doing the Song job anyway.
Walter has every right to offer his excellent research. No one is obliged to read it or this meander for that matter.
By: Flint McCullough on November 10, 2009
at 4:45 pm
A football team is not a car…plug in a new part here, upgrade a part there, etc.
Quality is not the only reason a player fails to make it in a team.
There are many incredible players out there that would struggle to find a place in our team because of how our team is constructed.
By: axis on November 10, 2009
at 4:45 pm
Joe,
I’m not sure I saw Yaya do anything last season that I’m not confident of Song having the qualities to do this season.
I am sure Song will have the chance to stand up and be counted in some very big games this season, and I reckon he’ll do just that.
Unless he’s available at an absolute snip, Yaya to Arsenal won’t happen. He’d also have to content himself with being a squad player, rotating with Song – and this is the reason he seems to want out at Barca.
Isn’t he now cup-tied for the Champs league anyway?
Joe, let me tell you where I am with this; I don’t think Yaya Toure is a profitable investment or a marked improvement on what we already have – for this reason I will not be investing in your business. Joe, I’m out.
By: LimparAssist on November 10, 2009
at 4:56 pm
It would be fantastic if we could maintain an average of 3 goals per game. If we scored 100 we would win the league. Although we are keeping relatively few clean sheets it is obvious the defence is much stronger than last year because we are giving away fewer chances and don’t look in any way shaky at the back.
By: CJ on November 10, 2009
at 5:09 pm
Joe,
He’s not playing at Barca for a reason. So let’s not get silly with the hyperbole. As Flint pointed out, if he’s not getting minutes in Barca’s team why should he get minutes in a side that is clicking on all cylinders and producing the best football in Europe at the moment. It’s just another case of certain fans elevating an expensive established name from another club at the expense of our boys, imo. It’s one of the worst traits to have as a football fan, and it’s becoming increasingly prevalent among Arsenal supporters.
By: Nasir Jones-Nasri on November 10, 2009
at 5:14 pm
Not only is Yaya cup-tied, but he will be in Africa just like Song in January.
A small note: games against top 4 sides do count more than other games. Yes, they only give us 3 points. But they are also a chance to take points from direct rivals. When we lost at OT, we gifted ManU three points as well as losing three ourselves.
By: California Gooner on November 10, 2009
at 5:25 pm
Limps,
Im not advocating for one moment that we buy him! Wenger will not bring in someone that will leapfrog in front of the talent coming through – maybe a Vieira type as additional cover as interim cover for the ANC.
Apart form the points Flint raised – the fact that Kolo is gone and that AW already rejected him – makes that clear IMO.
I just don’t think its fair to say that Song is a better player – when Yaya’s credentials are proven and Song is still establishing himself.
By: Joe on November 10, 2009
at 5:26 pm
yeah, we sure aren’t giving away any chances, but the ones we do give away they either mess up or score- I’m not complaining though, this is experience, something we desperately need.
the fact is, we are all 1 year older than last year, song makes better decisions, cesc is becoming more of an all-round player, and rvp is putting away more chanes
By: zaparodje on November 10, 2009
at 5:29 pm
what arsenal players at the moment* would fit into barcelona’s first team? Cesc? Arshavin? RVP?
*considering the average age is 22 or something and barca’s in at least 5 years older
By: zaparodje on November 10, 2009
at 5:33 pm
Joe, yes, he’s a proven player. But he’s also a proven player seeing a lot of time on the bench. There’s this fickle thing called form that you seem to be ignoring, and Song has him in that department by a mile.
By: Nasir Jones-Nasri on November 10, 2009
at 5:43 pm
you know if last season had been this season, (the team, injuries, everything else) we would probs finish 7th considering how poor we were. but maybe gibbs wouldn’t have slipped…
By: zaparodje on November 10, 2009
at 5:49 pm
Get yer Yayas outta here! It’s all about Denilson and Song now.
By: OneOfUs on November 10, 2009
at 5:50 pm
yes OOU
By: Kitchen Sink on November 10, 2009
at 5:54 pm
i almost forgot denilson- oh don’t tell me rvp and cesc will play the friendlies- If they do, I shall ppersonally travel to the abodes of Bert van Marwijk and Vicente Del Bosque and burn them down
By: zaparodje on November 10, 2009
at 5:57 pm
Thats a fair point Nasir which I accept.
But having “Form” against the lieges and Az’s of the world is one thing…………delivering when is matters most in the Semi final of the CL against the Chavs is another.
Thats not hyperbole. Thats just fact.
By: Joe on November 10, 2009
at 5:58 pm
just kidding but it would be ppissing annoying
By: zaparodje on November 10, 2009
at 5:58 pm
when does Denilson come back?
By: California Gooner on November 10, 2009
at 5:59 pm
a few weeks hopefully
By: zaparodje on November 10, 2009
at 6:04 pm
Denilson’s back in training next week I think.
By: OneOfUs on November 10, 2009
at 6:06 pm
http://www.arsenal.com/news/injury-news
By: OneOfUs on November 10, 2009
at 6:07 pm
The team is playing “Champagne Football” to quote a Setanta broadcaster who are not necessarily known for remarks that are kindly to Arsenal. Mr. Wenger’s team is the premier sports team in my life.
By: Two Owls on November 10, 2009
at 6:12 pm
Glad to hear it Two Owls. Are Sheffield Wednesday your secondary sports team?
By: LimparAssist on November 10, 2009
at 6:16 pm
Alex Song is a much better player than Yaya Toure.
By: Frank on November 10, 2009
at 6:21 pm
Joe, why the sneering? Song has dominated big matches for us and for his country.
By: FunGunner on November 10, 2009
at 6:26 pm
Comparing Song and Yaya Toure is very subjective. For one, Song is 4 years younger. Yaya has had 4 extra years of mileage and it’s unfair to suggest that Song won’t reach and surpass the heights that Yaya has by the time he’s 26. The question is whether you’re willing to wait for Song to grow up.
As for Denilson’s return (someone asked earlier), I have a feeling the young Brazilian as well as Theo Walcott will be in contention for the Carling cup match against Man Shitty.
Perhaps this Carling cup team will give Sparky’s millionaires a run for their money.
Fabianski
Eboue/Gilbert Senderos Silvestre Gibbs/Traore
Ramsey Denilson Merida
Walcott Eduardo Vela
I’m not sure if Little Jack Willy will be back by then, but if he is, I’m sure Wenger will unleash him on Lescott and Bridge.
By: Darius Stone on November 10, 2009
at 6:31 pm
“you know if last season had been this season, (the team, injuries, everything else) we would probs finish 7th considering how poor we were. but maybe gibbs wouldn’t have slipped…”
I’m not sure what you’re trying to say…that first sentence is confusing but maybe you can explain.
What makes you think that we were poor last season? We had a few off games but overall, I don’t have many complaints…I’m not sure why people keep going back to certain moments (like the slip) when they had absolutely nothing to do with our quality, ambitions or desires. Football sometimes feels like real-life put on fast-forward. Certain things happen and there’s nothing you can do about them. Saying that our boys were poor is being ungrateful to their hard-work and desire.
I feel sorry for what Arsene had to go through and how people reacted to the team for certain stretches of the season. One of my most memorable moments last year was seeing some of our fans stay till the very end of the United game cheering our boys on. That made me feel proud and I’m sure the boys appreciated that as well.
We didn’t have a poor season. The only reason people can say that its poor is because Arsene has spoilt us.
We finished 4th last year, we;re one of only 2 teams to have reached the last 16 in Europe every year for the past decade, we’ve always played a beautiful brand of football and, thanks to Arsene, have set failure as a 4th place finish.
How poor of Arsenal to only finish 4th in 08/09 in all major competitions.
By: abid on November 10, 2009
at 6:33 pm
Darius Song is a grown man and a father of two..
By: Kitchen Sink on November 10, 2009
at 6:33 pm
you sound like rafa benitez: except this is how he talks:
Is fuct
Is fuct definently
we gon ta ween premier league, I dont care what you say is fuct
By: zaparodje on November 10, 2009
at 6:35 pm
@ Darius Stone
That’s a pretty good guess for the team v Man City, I think. And a tasty team. I particularly like the idea of a frontline combining Walcott’s pace and Eduardos’s & Vela’s trickery. And the midfield is well-balanced, too. But no doubt Wenger will throw us a curve ball or two in his selection!
By: FunGunner on November 10, 2009
at 6:39 pm
look, i have and will never lose faith wenger or the team, we did have a very poor season. I don’t want to admit it but thanks to injuries to cesc, rvp, gallas and umm…him, we were out of the title race in november, who did we beat to get to the f.a cup semis? Plymouth, Cardiff, Burnley and Hull. The c.l? Roma (this season we couldve buried all those chances we had i’m sure), and villareal. Weve had a lot harder.
I’m not moaning don’t get me wrong I’m just emphasizing the fact that so far, we look a lot stronger and together
By: zaparodje on November 10, 2009
at 6:40 pm
sorry at the end i was meant to say ”this season”
By: zaparodje on November 10, 2009
at 6:41 pm
@ Darius Stone
Also, don’t know what you think, but to my mind, Senderos seems to have come to terms with his lack of pace and adapted his game. He doesn’t panic and and commit a foul when players threaten to go past him. Would you agree?
By: FunGunner on November 10, 2009
at 6:43 pm
and abid, i didnt say the boys were poor, the season was
By: zaparodje on November 10, 2009
at 6:43 pm
I was impressed by Bendtner’s mature comments on receiving his Danish player of the year award
“It is an immensely great honour to be awarded Player of the Year by the fans,” said Bendtner.
“I want to thank all those fans who voted for me. I would also like to thank my parents who have believed in me all the time, and I wish to thank my coaches and my team-mates who made this possible for me.”
Just shows how maligned he has been by his portrayal in the media as an ego-manic. There is a huge difference between confidence and arrogance and I felt his comments fit with Yogi’s headline today.
By: Passenal on November 10, 2009
at 6:44 pm
Alex Song is already a better player than Yaya Toure. He has been schooled in playing the Arsenal way, and in some ways is the first ‘product’ of the Arsenal system. He will always work to improve his game, because he has been taught by Arsene Wenger. But he is superior in every department to Yaya Toure.
By: Frank on November 10, 2009
at 6:45 pm
I agree with Passenal
By: Frank on November 10, 2009
at 6:45 pm
“Denilson’s back in training next week I think.”
It will be great to see him back in the fold. He looked good in the early games and looked like he was ready to step up another level from his performances last season.
By: Passenal on November 10, 2009
at 6:56 pm
Blow me down if I don’t agree with Passenal again.
By: Frank on November 10, 2009
at 6:59 pm
Agree 100 percent, Frank.
Alex Song is superior to Yaya in pretty much every category, imo.
Age. Yep. Value. Yep. Skill set. Yep. Wears Arsenal colors proudly. Yep. Whining agent. Nope.
Give me Alex Song, or give me death.
By: Nasir Jones-Nasri on November 10, 2009
at 7:02 pm
@Passenal. Bendy’s speech could make the Oscar’s if he ever won one. I can see him on stage with the camera’s moving to Wenger in the audience as he speaks.
@Fun Gunner. In the 2 CC games that he’s played, Senderos has shown a calmness and maturity that is very encouraging. I would be comfortable for him to step up to the plate if an when he’s needed in the first team.
I think that spending a year at Milan and training with veterans like Maldini and Nestor would have done Sendy a hell of a lot of good. His confidence was an issue last time, but the current atmosphere in the dressing room and the general feeling around the club is infectious and I’m sure he’s benefitting. For the Carling cup, Sendy and Sly as a central defensive pairing are doing a damn good job.
I was very impressed with how Sly led the team and slowed things down when needed in the CC game against Liverpool. We needed to stay calm and composed and Sly’s experience showed.
By: Darius Stone on November 10, 2009
at 7:03 pm
Neves Denilson….Click Click Click
By: Gunner4Ever on November 10, 2009
at 7:07 pm
@Kitchen Sink 6:32 pm
I didn’t mean it in that sense. I’m sure Olivia will testify under oath that her husband is indeed a grown man.
I was trying to illustrate that not only is Song good enough now, an extra 4 years under his belt will make him a more phenominal player than he is now. He is by no means the finished article, but we love him at 22.
By: Darius Stone on November 10, 2009
at 7:08 pm
So you were stating what we should be well aware of, a player under Wenger getting better .. I understand..
G4E don’t get me excited..
By: Kitchen Sink on November 10, 2009
at 7:22 pm
I’m a bit concerned to read that France have not ruled out Diaby from being able to play on Saturday. I hope they are not intending to inject him with pain killers and send him back crocked to us. Domenech has previous in this regard.
By: Passenal on November 10, 2009
at 7:24 pm
I agree about the central defensive pair of Sendy and Sly Darius. I know the latter is hated by many because of his past associations, but he does have that experience of the big occasions which such a young team need. He made some really important interceptions in that CC game against Liverpool.
By: Passenal on November 10, 2009
at 7:29 pm
Why not KS? You should be excited, I’m very excited by our prospect and our progress. The young tree we planted and supported against the winds of Doom and Gloom a few years ago is about to deliver the delicious fruits we’ve been waiting for…It’s time to be excited even more than before.
Don’t hold back…but don’t lose focus.
By: G4E on November 10, 2009
at 7:34 pm
The only reason Yaya is considered a good player by some is that he is so big. Everything he does is noticed. He would cut a very poor figure in our midfield.
By: Poliziano on November 10, 2009
at 7:34 pm
Its just as well he so big then – because I wouldn’t have noticed this otherwise!
By: Joe on November 10, 2009
at 7:59 pm
I wouldn`t put anything past Domenech Passenal. He`s a desperate man.
Looking past the internationals, I see AW rotating the squad for Sunderland & Standard in preparation for Chelsea.
As we have practically qualified in the CL I would expect a slightly less magnificent XI to take the field against Liege.
We don`t field `weaker` sides these days
By: Paulie Walnuts on November 10, 2009
at 8:03 pm
I just want to keep this the most crucial of lulls a “slow burner”
focus is key
G4E I like it, the name ring bell like ring ding dong
He can never be wrong like ling ting tong..
By: Kitchen Sink on November 10, 2009
at 8:03 pm
Joe I think you suffer from the grass is greener syndrome. Yaya is a good player, but if Arsene was interested he has had countless opportunities to buy him before and always passed. If Yaya is really b*tching about sitting on the Barcelona bench, coming to Arsenal will not make a difference. He is unlikely to replace Song/Denilson as first choice because he does not have the PL experience and who knows how he would cope with playing the Arsenal way and playing PL style football. I would rather trust Arsene’s judgement than a ‘fan’ with limited information who thinks they know who would fit into our team.
By: Passenal on November 10, 2009
at 8:06 pm
Wow Joe those are great qualities to look for in a DM.
By: Kitchen Sink on November 10, 2009
at 8:07 pm
Well, Joe, if you think Yaya regularly scores goals like that, we should play him in attack. He would be an ideal replacement for Arshavin.
By: Poliziano on November 10, 2009
at 8:13 pm
Yeah that was a great goal Joe, but let’s not make like he does that every other game…
By: axis on November 10, 2009
at 8:20 pm
!!Pz
By: axis on November 10, 2009
at 8:21 pm
@ Darius
Agreed about Phil and Mik, as I will now call them.
***
@ Passenal
I saw that article about Diaby and my heart sank.
Does the entire French football establishment suffer from Wenger-envy?
***
Joe, search for Alex Song on YouTube, and I’m sure you’ll find impressive clips of him, as well. It sounds like you have convinced yourself that if only we had Yaya in the team, we would definitely win something. It doesn’t work like that. There are no guarantees, so why not just enjoy the football?
By: FunGunner on November 10, 2009
at 8:21 pm
Apparently there’s a new school of thought in football management that says new players should be chosen according to the contribution they can make to every game rather than by their best YouTube clips.
By: Poliziano on November 10, 2009
at 8:32 pm
How is the poor football fan to keep his list of transfer targets up to date when the managers keep moving the goal posts (as it were)? Who says there is nothing new under the sun?
By: Poliziano on November 10, 2009
at 8:35 pm
A few good tackles, a few good passes and a few good goals..
By: Kitchen Sink on November 10, 2009
at 8:44 pm
Alc’on, with their 1mil+ payroll just bounced Real Madrid out of the Copa del Ray…hahahahaaa…
By: axis on November 10, 2009
at 8:52 pm
Yaya is going to OilCity to join his big bro…it’s the most likely destination…after all, who is going to pay 20 million in a Yaya?
By: Gunner4Ever on November 10, 2009
at 8:54 pm
in the champions league knockouts i really wanna play ac milan or juventus, to prove to everyone we just are worthy of a top 5 place in europe.
i know we’ve done it b4 but i really want to do it with this team
By: zaparodje on November 10, 2009
at 9:07 pm
Beat me to it axis, but lets repeat. The Galacticos only managed to score one goal against Segunda B side Alcorcon at Santiago Bernabeu, how laughable is that. Lost 4-1 in aggregate, hahaha
Last year they lost to Real Union, also a Segunda B side, so 200m€ or whatever did not bring success at domestic cup.
By: anaconda on November 10, 2009
at 9:08 pm
Then to the saddest kind of football news. Hannover and German international goalkeeper Robert Enke has died today.
By: anaconda on November 10, 2009
at 9:09 pm
How did he die?
By: axis on November 10, 2009
at 9:12 pm
So far so good but the Gunners need to find goals when they battle Liverpool, Man U and Chelsea. This is the only weakness. The season looks very good. http://bobbygee.wordpress.com/
By: bobbygee on November 10, 2009
at 9:27 pm
axis
train
By: Kitchen Sink on November 10, 2009
at 9:40 pm
axis, report I saw said the preliminary evaluation by the Polizei suggested suicide.
Yaya over Song, you must be kidding. I’d love to see Yaya…on our bench in case Song needs a breather for 30 minutes.
Bummer about Bendtner, but you know his confidence will not suffer during the layoff and he will be back storming to go.
Good to see that Denilson will be in training, now he’s got to earn his spot back in the lineup. The team is clicking right now, I don’t really see a spot for him in the First XI.
By: Gris Gris on November 10, 2009
at 9:45 pm
Yaya is a very good player but I`d be amazed if we ever bought him.
I`d rather he stayed in Spain than join Man Citeh though as he`s a step up from De Jong & Barry but it`s unlikely he could displace Song on this season`s form.
Without a guarentee of first team football & with a big transfer fee & wages it`s a non starter IMO.
I`d rather we concluded new deals for Merida & Rosicky
By: Paulie Walnuts on November 10, 2009
at 10:06 pm
That’s awful…what a shame.
By: axis on November 10, 2009
at 10:20 pm
Really sad news about Enke. He actually played for Barca for a couple of years and there was a silent minute today at the beginning fo their match. The media reports it was most likely suicide and that he suffered from depression (he lost his two year old daughter three years ago)
By: EvilFiek on November 10, 2009
at 10:26 pm
Just to put things right.
The person who used the name “walter” and put the articles I wrote for the “untold arsenal” blog is not me.
Like I said I only do some things for the untold website.
So I would like to ask the person who copied my articles to stop this.
I’m not looking for any publicity for myself.
To the administrator of this blog : Feel free to remove the copied articles from the comments section if you wish.
By: walter on November 10, 2009
at 10:43 pm
Thanks for putting the record straight Walter – it seemed out of character for you. I suspect many of us who post here also know about ‘Untold Arsenal’ and would have read your articles there already.
By: Passenal on November 10, 2009
at 10:49 pm
Well it happened before and I find it rather annoying for the owners of this site (or other sites where it happened) to get someone over who just copys articles from other sites and put them somewhere out of place.
It brings down the good article that yogi wrote.
If I really would like to put my articles over here, which I dont want to, I will ask it to the owner of this site myself.
By: walter on November 10, 2009
at 11:05 pm
There are 2 walters around.
By: Luke on November 10, 2009
at 11:16 pm
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By: Top Posts « WordPress.com on November 11, 2009
at 12:12 am
Walter @ 11.05 has confirmed he is the real one and those articles were copied without his prior knowledge. As such they have been deleted which is why late readers of the post will wonder WTF is going on.
YW
By: Yogi's Warrior on November 11, 2009
at 12:47 am
Thanks for that vid Kitchen Sink. Song’s amazing and he seems to do everything so casually as well. Love the guy.
By: abid on November 11, 2009
at 2:04 am
Nerina Pallot is on Radcliffe and Maconie right now and she’s gorgeous and an Arsenal fan.
Even Mark Radcliffe who is a ManC fan was singing our praises.
By: steww on November 11, 2009
at 9:24 pm