Arsenal 3 – 0 Tottenham Hotspur
1 – 0 van Persie (43)
2 – 0 Fabregas (43)
3 – 0 van Persie (60)
It was three but should have been double that. Nitpicking is a favourite pastime of Arsenal supporters. Just joshing. Or was I? The empty rhetoric of Tottenham was exposed for exactly what it was; there is no way that the two squads are comparable. A lack of heart, fire and guts. The hollowness of the calls for Arsenal to sign some English players to get the spirit so hyped of those players shone through.
Tottenham showed the guts of a Wildebeest which had been devoured and scavanged in the savannah for weeks on end. Predictably, Robbie Keane’s bragadoccio ended with his ignominous departure midway through the second half, succumbing to injury having produced nothing of note to back up his claims of parity in the playing staff.
A derby win that for an hour pushed Arsenal to second, one below where they would have been had two late goals not been conceded at Upton Park the week before. If the midweek win over Liverpool partially erased that memory, consigning the potential pattern of conceding late goals to the dustbin was carried out emphatically. The opening forty minutes could be described as even in that van Persie dragged a shot wide following good work by Fabregas whilst Corluka deflected an effort by Arshavin to safety. Even in that Fabregas brought a good save from Gomes whilst Arshavin struck a shot wide from the right side of the effort. Even in that the visitors best effort came when Song tackled Keane in the area and the ball rebounded off the Irishman’s leg for a goal kick. It was only even in effort because Tottenham were doing a lot of chasing and harrying of the ball.
The match turned as the interval loomed on the horizon. Sagna took advantage of lackadiasical marking, crossing from the right for van Persie to show true predatory instinct to get in front of King to direct his shot to the goal. Gomes had little chance as the Dutchman’s technique kept the ball low.
Straight from the kick-off, Fabregas found space and statuesque opponents, still enough to have tourists in Trafalgar square gasping with awe at the lifelike nature of the art. Tottenham were simply appalling. Tackles were half-hearted, the description coming through my magnanomous disposition this fine day. According to the official website, 11 seconds elapsed from the restart to Cesc burying the goal past the hopelessly exposed Gomes.
In that time, van Persie managed what could barely be described as a challenge, allowing the Spaniard to dance exquisitly past several Tottenham players to score, winning this weeks Strictly Come Dancing in the process such was the twinkling of his toes. Two goal leads are rarely dropped in consecutive weeks by any side and Arsenal were not in the mood to do so in this match.
The second half saw chances to increase the lead squandered from the unlikeliest of sources. Either side of van Persie’s goal, Eduardo had one on one’s with Gomes; both times the ‘keeper prevailed as the Croat first effort was well-saved whilst the second saw him in two minds as to lob or slide the ball past the advancing custodian. A shame that the second was wide of the post.
If the second Arsenal goal was comedy defending, the third was pure Keystone Cops. Eduardo was fouled on the right, the linesman flagged and everybody stopped not seeing Clattenburg’s outstretched arms playing the advantage. Sagna realised and advanced to play the ball into the centre. Inexplicably neither Gomes or King cut out what was essentially a poor pass; it turned into a fine cross when van Persie nudged the ball over the line.
Almunia returned to goal and was for large parts a spectator. When Spurs did get shots on target, the Spaniard invariably had a comfortable save to make. Part of that was the defence and midfield starving Crouch of service. Spurs had a game plan to make his height count but when the ball did reach him, the Arsenal players learned the lessons of the past, backed off and won the knockdown. Equally the fullbacks both pressed hard to contain any wide threat. Bentley was rendered a passenger, proving that his ego is bigger than his talent. Clichy may not have grabbed headlines with assists but had his most solid game for a while, adept at going forward, the defensive cobwebs shaken clear.
Arsene lost control in the second half as Diaby and Song pushed forward but they got the message soon enough about reigning in any hopes of a fightback. There may be some bemusement in the media about the incident but little doubt it was something that was worked on in training. Both of them held their positions well and used the ball effectively. Diaby could perhaps have done better with his chance in the second half but like Song, is showing with a run in the team, why Arsene retained faith in the players when others did not.
With Chelsea meeting United next weekend, a win was crucial to maintain pressure on the media’s Big Two. Signs this morning that the top of the table is getting crowded with current form being noted and a realisation in their eyes that Arsene may not have been so mad with the odd suggestion that, whisper it, this team can challenge for silverware.
’til Tomorrow.























Challenge for silverware? You poor deluded fool, Yogi. We don’t know where the goals are coming from and we should have signed Palacious…our goalkeepers are poor… er..
By: consolsbob on November 1, 2009
at 10:17 am
Can I just say that I loved Muppet’s anger and outrage yesterday. I just love it.
By: consolsbob on November 1, 2009
at 10:18 am
We are two players short of a title winning team.A quality keeper and a back up CH.Sort that out in january and its our title.
By: R vP on November 1, 2009
at 10:31 am
Spurs were rubbish but so were west ham the previous week.Its the dropping of stupid points that have to be cut out for us to gain success.
YW
Song was excellent but i cant agree about Diaby 1st half he was piss poor, he gives possesion away too much.I just cant wait for Nasri to return
By: Arsene Rose on November 1, 2009
at 10:40 am
Bentley should have been sent off!!!! When is a deliberate hand ball not an automatic yellow card? Which brings on the second issue, that late studs up challenge on Vermallen is again a rediculously obvious yellow card!! 3-0 win doesn’t mask the dodgy ref decisions
By: Haddenbauer on November 1, 2009
at 10:42 am
Spurs nothing to the Gunners.
By: Van Josphat on November 1, 2009
at 10:46 am
Good report, YW.
By: Le Bob on November 1, 2009
at 11:11 am
spurs they are sick. Consoslobob u cal yourself. You are sick too.why do you always blame arsenal players alway, is it only diaby on the field, are you blind to see eduado and arshavin lost so many scoring chances. Pls stop blaming arsenal player.
By: ayodeji on November 1, 2009
at 11:11 am
Alan Hansen summed it up: “Ledley (on first name terms are we now, Hansen ?) had a [ugh] ‘bad day at the office’.
Redknapp was equally brilliant : ” Sunday morning stuff”
~ May have these quotes a tad wrong, but the essence.
So no mention of Cesc’s opportunism, sharpness and fantastic run..or RvP’s incredible speed and technique then ?
Loved the way they both roared when scoring..
By: ponyboy on November 1, 2009
at 11:24 am
Having scored, rather.
Consols – are you sick ?
By: ponyboy on November 1, 2009
at 11:25 am
ayodeji
sarcasm is easy to miss…
YW
By: Yogi's Warrior on November 1, 2009
at 11:25 am
Has anybody else noticed that there is a rash of prats first thing in the morning? As for Ponyboy…
By: consolsbob on November 1, 2009
at 11:25 am
Can we get any medication to treat these rashes?
By: Yogi's Warrior on November 1, 2009
at 11:26 am
Diaby was pathethic in the game against Spurs as he has been in a lot of Arsenal games he featured in!
He needs to realise that he would be more appreciated by the team and supporters if he would just release the ball immideiately instead of trying to dribble the whole pitch and in the process loose possession of the ball.
By: Frankomania on November 1, 2009
at 11:33 am
ooops… went to the wrong blog and posted there. Another blog looks just like this
JUST ABOUT PERFECT.
Great post Yogi! The team was just superb yesterday. What is important is that we kept a clean sheet without much alarm. Everyone in the team with the exception if the clueless diaby worked their socks off and they deserve all the plaudits they get.
THANK YOU ARSENE.
I just loved the way arsene went ballistic when we were 3-0 trying to prevent the players from getting complacent. We dont see this enough from arsene, and it was a joy to watch because it is essential that we dont give the opposition an inch.
This team does need kicks up their backside frequently and I am glad arsene is starting to to that. This is the WAY FORWARD. Ohh just loved arsene with his sleeves rolled up… way to go gaffer!!
Complacency must be STAMPED OUT!
LEADING BY EXAMPLE.
Cesc is truly becoming our talisman, Great to see him flaling his hands at the start of the half laying into the team verbally to keep them focussed. His pre match rhetoric was concerned with finding the “KILLER INSTINCT” and didnt our skipper lead by example with his goal and performance.
The new mr. Arsenal, enough said!!
Good commentary by andy gray, I really enjoyed it despite the lack of englishmen in our team, he was fair and seemed to be enjoying the match as a football fan unlike martin last week who seemed to EXULT when west ham got back (of course the hammers had 5 englishmen), you could detect it.
And andy was right when he said the poor sod bentley should have been sent off in the first 8 minutes for the blatant hand ball and the foul on thomas vermaelen.
He made good comments about song remaining behind to cover the back four when we were in the lead and I agree with him, it does as he said “technically” give us more stability having numbers back.
All in all this performance has eclipsed that of our fulham one which prior to this was our best performance. A fine show of character, grit, maturity and long may it continue…
Only bad news, bentner out, that is a blow!
And of course our fans at the game was fantastic, great atmosphere lets keep it up!
Cheers all!!
By: naga gunner on November 1, 2009
at 11:39 am
Will you people back off Diaby – I’m sick of every season having a different scapegoat. He plays for Arsenal, he contributed to the win yesterday and he should be supported. If you support the team, you support the whole team. How many times does Arsene have to prove you wrong before you STFU?
By: Passenal on November 1, 2009
at 11:48 am
I understand Wenger’s anger in the second half…
Ppl like Shava and Diaby have to track back.. Seems Fab is learning to do it more now although he needs to run a bit more and dictate the tempo even when we are 3 up…
RVP has great spirit and work ethic… The back 4 were great… If we can get the TV attitute to the rest of this team, particularly in front, then we will be champions…
By: Rob on November 1, 2009
at 11:52 am
Yogi you are a very forgiving man I suppose based on how people used to slag off Song and Ebuoe its OK to give Diably the benefit of the doubt, but hes so inconsistent he cannot permanently retain the position. hes good for the sqaud and his height is a halp but lets give Merida or Coquelin a chance against AAlkmaar, I must say Bentnders work rate and help in defence were great till he was injured . he is a vital part of the squad and hsi stength and heading have improved dramatically.
By: SOLGOONER on November 1, 2009
at 11:58 am
Diaby had a good second half, he was poor in the first half giving the ball away.
Hated the commentary as usual – “Spurs unlucky not to be ahead” at 40 mins – when they had 0 shots and Gomes had made an unbelievable save from Fab.”Spurs too much time in midfield” when we dominated possession.
By: Arshenal on November 1, 2009
at 12:10 pm
Agree with Passenal. We win as a team and lose as a team, get off Diabys back. He done some good and bad things throughout the game but the team WON – enjoy it! Wenger will know if and when its time to try somebody new in his position…..I hope. Diaby is capable of greatness, he just needs to find consistency. He is still fairly young and is an excellent player to have in the squad. My gripe is that the crowds dissatisfaction with him was audiable within the ground, that is not good for the lad.
By: Matty Boy on November 1, 2009
at 12:30 pm
I agree. Good analysis Yogi. However, in my opinion (especially in the second half) Diaby had one of his best games of the season. He won some really good tackles and kept his passing simple. Yo mentioned he’s doing better and yesterday he played like we need him to: conservatively He’s not my favorite player but he tries hard and he’s a gooner which means he’s our gooner. I relish the day when Nasri takes his spot back but Arsene knows what he wants tactically and Diaby is preferred to Ramsey for some reason so I’m inclined to believe it’s a good reason. I feel for the guy because you can tell he wants nothing more than to do well for Arsenal.
Anyway, on another note, I praise this particular performance in spite of the fact we didn’t actually play at our attacking best but we played with maturity and confidence. Song had another great game and Cesc…well Cesc is one of the top 5 players in the world hands down. He bossed the midfield like a true Captain. And his celebration, after what was definitely the goal of the season so far, was all any Arsenal fan should need to stop doubting his passion for our club. “Mr. Arsenal” in deed.
In the end, the best part of this game was the way the back four played. Strong and organized: like true title contenders. I don’t think Sanga got beaten on the right all day and Clichy had his best game in ages. Gallas looked a bit nervous but you can always count on Vermaelen to do the job. And what a job. He and Song won the Crouch knock downs every time.
In fairness if both teams were at full strength it would have been a more exciting and close game.
We should have won 5 nil in all fairness but for our best out-in-out striker missing two chances he would have buried any other day.
Enough rambling. Arsenal were miles ahead of spurs and it just shows…without a history of greatness and expectation the “pretenders” will always be just that.
PS: I would love to see Arsene as passionate as he was yesterday all the time. Throwing his coat in anger because Song and Diaby wouldn’t stay back: priceless.
By: brentCPH on November 1, 2009
at 12:38 pm
I really can’t get my head round the idea that we have a small squad. As for the idea that the Spud’s have a superior squad to ours – good grief. How many other teams have midfielders with the quality of Cesc, Rosicky and Nasri?
Oh and where’s Bentley the flying twat today?
By: Marc on November 1, 2009
at 12:53 pm
It’s cute how the supporters were desperately trying to tell Sagna that the play was on.
Wonderful football. As always when watching after knowing the positive results, Arsenal as a team looked even more mesmerising. Have to give a special mention to Fabregas for that truly inspiring goal, can’t stop playing that goal on repeat.
The only bad thing was Bendtner. Hope he’ll be back soon :’(
About the so-called lazy players:
It’s understandable that many supporters like to see players show obvious devotion, hard work, grit, running around the pitch non-stop, veins popping up cos they care, etc.
But the fact is, not every players can be like that even if they want to. Not everybody have that kind of stamina, and it may simply not be the most effective way of playing for them. It doesn’t mean they don’t work as hard as they can or that they give less contribution to the team.
(…stating the obvious isn’t fun.)
Anyway fantastic win, yay!!!
By: Asianfansince97 on November 1, 2009
at 12:58 pm
I am not for booing Diaby.. He is an arsenal player and will develop into a great player..
When Cesc started playing, Wenger said the team is paying for his education with points…same for Diaby, we are maybe winning only 3-0 cause he is palying..sometimes we will lose also.
It is his first run of games since he came here. He got an ankle injury in an assault by an everton clown which took 1 year to heal, then he took 1 year to get to fitness, now is his first run of games…so i am willing to be patient with him.. He is much better that nasri when he will settle…he and song in the midfield will be like monsters…Forget iniesta and xavi in 2 years, we will dominate europe too
By: Rob on November 1, 2009
at 1:04 pm
The problem for Spurs on that 2nd goal was that their only player that can tackle worth a damn, Palacios, was the one who comically gave the ball away and was out of position for Cesc’s run.
I’m sure Doomers out there were really disappointed to see Cesc’s muted reaction to his goal and his sulky celebration. Not exactly looking like his heart is elsewhere…
By: lagooner on November 1, 2009
at 1:04 pm
The same piss poor supporters who spent most of the past 2-3 years demanding that Song be sold (that we splash the cash on the proverbial “big, ugly” defensive midfielder) are the same ones who every game slate Diaby. How blind can you be? Diaby is not only a gooner; he is only 21, amazingly talented, physically superior to 99% of all professional midfielders in the game, and can do fantastic things that simply cannot be taught. He can only attain greatness by playing on a regular basis. I have no fear that Diaby will become a great Arsenal player despite the competion from Nasri, Denilson, Ramsay et al.
By: shottagunna on November 1, 2009
at 1:06 pm
Marc
our carling cup team can match them i rhink
ramsy for cesc
wilshere for rosicky
merida for nasri
By: santino on November 1, 2009
at 1:06 pm
nice piece, always loved, this blogs….only i can’t Spurs Dickheaded fanslike consolbob – who are too ashamed to be to associated, with their, mud of a club… Disguising as gooners, and infiltrating gooner sites….SHAME ON U!
By: boozy on November 1, 2009
at 1:11 pm
loving the reactions about consolbobs comment @
10:17 am
is sarcasm banned for this season?
By: santino on November 1, 2009
at 1:15 pm
Lets all get together and sing; “There is Only One Arsene Wenger.” Didn’t Arsene say Palacios is OK but not good enough for Arsenal, I already have Alex Song? Well he must have said something like that.
Unlike Benitez and most other managers in the EPL, once Arsene has identified a young player as a unique talent he sticks by them and allow them to grow and develop into great players. That is why young players with any shred of ability make Arsenal 1st choice; if they had any doubts in the past those must have been erased as they look at what Benitez has done to Babel.
By: shotta-gunna on November 1, 2009
at 1:18 pm
diaby situation is not a big problem .arsene will give him a run of games , if he can deal with the pressure and contribute he will stay otherwise somebody else will get the node .
By: santino on November 1, 2009
at 1:21 pm
Only yesterday in the Times I read that ‘..Wenger could have signed Palacios, the ‘English ’sort of player that Arsenal have been crying out for for years, and chose not to…’ So I paid particular attention to him during the game.
The man is slow. He mistimes tackles. He runs around a lot. fair dues. He will make a career. Not at Arsenal. He is not in our class.
‘Preparation H’ has it’s adherents, Yogi.
By: consolsbob on November 1, 2009
at 1:26 pm
arsene might have kept palacious if flamini left a year ago than he did. steve bruce said something like that when he signed him. as for song wenger said he is a center back and dont have the stamina to play dm.
By: santino on November 1, 2009
at 1:26 pm
WTF? Consols is being attacked by these newly minted supporters. To paraphrase Shakespeare:
“Sarcasm is lost to brutish beasts.”
By: shotta-gunna on November 1, 2009
at 1:33 pm
Consols – This ‘running around a lot’ apparently is part of Harry’s coaching ethos. Isn’t this what he was said to have asked of Pavluchenko when he 1st came to Spurs?
By: shotta-gunna on November 1, 2009
at 1:38 pm
On the issue about Diaby; I think doomers and anti-Diaby folk should get used to having him around. He has a vital role to play in the Arsenal midfield, and clearly, Wenger feels that his talent and potential is worth sticking with and Diaby will only improve and realise this potential with a run of games.
As much as he sometimes shows his rustiness, it’s fair to say that selective amnesia is being applied by those who refuse to acknowledge Diaby’s contribution to the team. His positive contributions far outweigh the mistakes he makes.
The more games he plays, the better he will be and no amount of moaning will stop Wenger from persevering with the talent.
What people forget is that the emerging Arsenal powerhouse of a midfield has an average age of 21. Even Chelsea’s geriatric midfield superstars know that they ain’t spring chickens any more and this Arsenal team is about to take over the mantle and dominate football for years to come. Why would Wenger not want to see this through by acting in a knee jerk way and not giving Diaby the space to grow into the role as he has with Song, Denilson, Fabregas and many others.
By: Darius Stone on November 1, 2009
at 1:39 pm
wahat about our draw against man ciy ? time for revenge ? a home draw would have been nice .
By: santino on November 1, 2009
at 1:45 pm
In the end, Arsene is always right. It was proven with Eboue (and I have to admit that I was one of the people who wanted to see him sold last year), with Song and with Diaby it’ll be eventually proven, too.
He is young and has to mature, and how is he supposed to do that without playing first team football in games that matter? He did have some dodgy scenes in the first half, but I think he played really good in the second half. Especially his ability to hold the ball while fighting of several Sp*ds impressed me.
By: EvilFiek on November 1, 2009
at 1:53 pm
Running around a lot is an ethos well etched in the English football psyche. Love for blood and thunder and a disdain for the beautiful game is nurtured by both the media and the football system.
When players like Palacios, Mascherano, Tevez, etc are hailed more than Song, Denilson or even Berbatov then there is a basic problem in the parameters used to determine how good a player is.
When some of our own fans rate Palacios higher than Song you see how deep the doctrine of running-around-like-headless-chickens in ingrained.
By: wengerball on November 1, 2009
at 2:02 pm
Darius – I am heartened by your observations.
EvilFiek – I don’t have a problem with those who say I was wrong; my problem is with those hypocrites who turn from one scapegoat to the next, continuing the same negative attitudes to exceptionally talented youngsters being brought through by Arsene. Most of the time it is covered with bias and prejuidicwe which has nothing to do with the long term success of the club.
By: shotta-gunna on November 1, 2009
at 2:04 pm
consolsbob
You Spud you !!!
By: Flint McCullough on November 1, 2009
at 2:15 pm
why are people immune to talking about arshavins form. He was piss poor yesterday, lost the ball so many times, kept on falling over.
By: Reece on November 1, 2009
at 2:18 pm
Look, Diaby is starting every game because Denilson AND Nasri AND Rosicky AND Walcott are all injured. So there’s not as much rotation. Cesc and Song are both automatics now, Diaby most certainly is not. But he’s ahead of Ramsey and Merida in the pecking order because physically he’s a beast.
I don’t understand the commentary of “gifting” goals. Most good scoring chances result from some sort of defensive deficiency. It’s not the norm for teams to go 90 mins making zero defensive errors. The difference is who pounces and finishes. We pounced. We finished. Because we’re awesome.
By: nolaboyd on November 1, 2009
at 2:23 pm
Spot on naga, consolb, darius Diaby bashing and booing by the fans is just plane crazy. The beauty of a ‘team’ is that when one person is having an off day someone else is always going to step to the plate. The team needs us to get beehind them all the time. Even Cesc has days when he gives the ball away cheaply. You can be sure the editor of the Times will be eating that very paper today after saying Arsene missed out on Palacios…the one that got away…like the other stick we used to be beaten with Lassana Diarra or Lass as he calls himself. I cant wait to here the bactracking journos and pundits when media darlings Chelski and Manure are ecliped by Arsenal. They will probably say we always new the Gunners could do it.
By: Gooner4Life on November 1, 2009
at 2:23 pm
Got that spot on, YW.
Diaby did have a spell when nothing was going right for him, yesterday.
To his credit he never attempted to hide & worked hard throughout. Although his constructive side, which we all know he has, never really got going, he is making a big improvement on his defensive capabilities. The Spuds were a tall side, he was very useful in countering that.
Still needs to improve on his concentration & it looked to me that this was the cause of AW’s wobbly. I don’t ever remember AW doing that at a home game before. Certainly not in such a red mist manner. Annie will be sowing the buttons back on his jacket today.
Spellbinding stuff from AH on MOTD. On a week where our kids have beaten a fairly expensive Liverpool side with 5 or 6 1st team contenders unavailable he says (virtually agreeing with Keene about the magnificence of the Spud’s squad) “Arsenal are ok 1-11 but….”
When is the Liverpool or Manchester derby ever shunted to the also rans spot on that joke of a programme?
By: Flint McCullough on November 1, 2009
at 2:34 pm
Howay lads… Good show u lot dished out. Absolute class. Arry should just accept that we were out played, shake wenger by the hand and move on. Keano was wrong to say what he said. We should worry about our current debt of 325m quid and our new stadium than talking about the arse’s bench. Anyway lots of luck for the title lads.
By: BentleyTheFlyingSpur on November 1, 2009
at 2:43 pm
I think this week has shown just much strength in depth Arsenal have. Whatever side could put out two teams as strong as these:
—————–Almunia—————
Sagna—Gallas—Vermallen—Clichy
—–Fabregas—Song—-Diaby——-
—Rosicky——RvP—–Arshavin—–
—————Manonne—————–
Eboue—Djourou—Senderos—Gibbs
—-Nasri—-Denilson—-Ramsey——
—-Walcott—-Bendtner—-Eduardo—
Injuries have meant that the first team has to a degree picked itself so far this year, but Arsene is going to have some difficult choices when everyone is fit.
By: Nick on November 1, 2009
at 2:44 pm
I didnt hear any booin at the Grove yesterday. I sure as shite hope no Gooners booed one of our players.
I thought Diaby has played better, first half, but he has been playing very well since he has had a run in the side and improved 2nd half.
But it was a great team performance, a fantastic result and the deafening chants of “Who are you?”at the away “support” was hilarious!
And how the fuck Bentley was not sent off, I do not know? The ref seemed to allow the spuds players impunity from having any cards dished out to em.
And I am truely shocked that consolsbob has been unmasked as a sleeper! A spud no less!
By: Spike on November 1, 2009
at 2:50 pm
Another very important positive that needs to be noted from this result was the way our defenders (both were great yesterday) especially gallas coped and dealt with the SECOND BALLS (in this case all knockdowns from crouch).
I think if our central pair can improve on this, we can considerably minnimize the defensive vulnerability of our team. Again predictibably we lost almost all of the aerial balls but what we did very well was to defend the second balls efficiently and squeezed out the dangers.
This is very much method to deal with the likes of bolton in the future because though kevin davies scores headers, they mainly cause panic from his knockdowns, so if we our central pair can find the way to deal with it, we will go a long way in nullifying the TRIED AND TESTED method of beating arsenal. Same goes for stoke.
Both defenders have great positional sense so it can be implemented successfully, because they likes of drogba and davies will more often than not, have the edge aerially over our defenders but if we can shut out their entire team from them their effectiveness will be greatly sterilized.
I think that is the way forward.
Cheers all!!
By: naga gunner on November 1, 2009
at 2:57 pm
Made the mistake of watching MotD last night. The complete lack of recognition for the result, performance, team and manager is quite apparent.
As Phil “Top3″ Thompson asserted on the 1st game of the season, we are also rans, the spud and Pool lovin feckers on that dinosaur of a prgramme just cannot bring themselves to mention us as serious title contenders. Every loss, or even draw is jumped on as proof we need a Tony Adams, or that we are “fragile at the back” (Andy Dunn) etc etc.
It is funny as hell proving all these clueless agenda driven pricks wrong.
By: Spike on November 1, 2009
at 2:58 pm
re: shottagunna @1:06
Diaby will be 24 before the end of this season. But I suppose you could deduct 2 years from his age for time missed due to injury and return to fitness and say he’s 21.
By: KansasGooner on November 1, 2009
at 3:15 pm
the media is playing down the significance of nld and arsenal. i kind of expecting that after the rise of city.
By: santino on November 1, 2009
at 3:19 pm
I feel sorry for the doomers, Denilson is injured, Song is proving them wrong week in week out so they’ve a new poster boy in Diaby. ” 21 years of age and to paraphrase these footballing goldfish he’s simply not good enough. Hell improve and mature in two or three years time he’ll be a monster. Were only really seeing the beginning of the development of this team. 16 points out of the last 18 for any other team that would be championship form but the media reduce it down a bad 2nd half against West Ham.
I’ve got a recording of the ultimate Arsenal hater and he does have some stiff competition Steve Claridge on 5 live giving his expert assessment on Arsenal, during his analysis he stresses how we’d be lucky to finish anywhere near the top four, how Everton, Spurs, Man City and Villa all had the potential to usurp us and have better squads, how we lack depth and how Wenger may have to go before next season. Can’t wait to hear what he has to say at the end of the season.
By: Bradys right foot on November 1, 2009
at 3:20 pm
Yes! It’s all been a lie. Outed, you say! Freed, I reply! After years of living a lie I can tell it as it really is.
‘Arry is a better manager than Wenger. We have a better squad than Arsenal. Robbie is better than RVP and Jenas better than Fabregas. Huddlestone is solid muscle. Bentley is the new Bergkamp. We will have a new stadium. We will win the Premiership. The Earth is flat and the moon is made of green cheese.
By: consolsbob on November 1, 2009
at 3:21 pm
Excuse Naga but Vermalean got his fair share of those “first” balls despite not being the tall, ugly, humongous center-half 90% of bloggers demanded all-year. Not only is he good in the air but he is a 100 times better going forward than that bloke from Fulham who was defender du jour during the summer.
I know what kills the pundits and their echo-chamber in the Arsenal blogsphere; Arsene Knows Best.
By: shotta-gunna on November 1, 2009
at 3:22 pm
Are you enjoying your freedom consolsbob? It won’t be long until the men in white coats come for you. Don’t fight it, go along with the nice men, they’ll put you somewhere where you can get a nice rest.
By: Passenal on November 1, 2009
at 3:25 pm
Take it easy Consols; they might believe you! LOL.
By: shotta-gunna on November 1, 2009
at 3:26 pm
apart from the moon and earth thing i disagree with everything.
By: santino on November 1, 2009
at 3:30 pm
He will be alright with men in white coats with a basketball playing cockerell for a badge.
I believe you can still be hung for treason.
By: Flint McCullough on November 1, 2009
at 3:31 pm
As long as they give me the same pills as Ponyboy has, I’ll be fine.
You’ve spoilt it now Flint. The thought of pulling on a Spud shirt actually made me feel nauseous.
By: consolsbob on November 1, 2009
at 3:37 pm
Kansas Gooner – We are both off on Diaby’s age, I more than you. Born 11 May 1986 makes him 23 by my count. But you are absolutely correct; given the time he has been out injured he is more like 21 in Arsenal time.
I just Wikied Diaby and learnt that he is far more intelligent than we give him credit; “Before joining Arsenal, Diaby reportedly turned down a move to Arsenal’s rivals Chelsea…” Smart man, if he had joined that lot he would probably now be on loan to Hull or in football purgatory like Jon Obi Mikel who at 22 is a similar physical specimen.
By: shotta-gunna on November 1, 2009
at 3:37 pm
Am worried what we do if either TV or Billy get a long term injury.I heard Ray Parlour say on the radio today that Song could play CH.But that would weaken the midfield
Senderos or Silvestre do not fill me with confidence.Can you imagine these two v Drogba
The Chelsea game at the Grove will be the big test
a real 6 pointer
By: Arsene Rose on November 1, 2009
at 3:37 pm
dont worry arsene insured both of them with 2 movie stars sylvester stallone and Jean-Claude Van Damme
By: santino on November 1, 2009
at 3:52 pm
I wonder if Adrian Durham still insist’s that Redknapp is a better manager then Sir Wenger.
By: DukeGoonem on November 1, 2009
at 4:03 pm
He probably does, but then, Adrian Durham is a well known idiot.
By: consolsbob on November 1, 2009
at 4:05 pm
I’m just looking forward to every game this squad plays this season.
Abou Diaby at AFC total appearances:
05/06: 16
06/07: 18
07/08: 28
08/09: 36
Total in last two seasons: 64
Last season was his first season in England where he managed to get a vaguely consistent run of games.
Song was long ago picked out for a big future role at AFC, was sent on loan to Charlton in the EPL as a 17 year old (many Charlton fans said he was one of their better players that season, he played a lot of games) and is a regular for Cameroon. Both at Charlton and for Cameroon he played more or less the same role/position he does in the current, fluid set up at AFC. He hasn’t suffered a horrific broken leg, & so is obviously much further ahead in his development.
I also heard one theory that Diaby played for a season at LM to help re-strengthen that leg, he was much younger when he had his injury unlike a fully mature player such as Eduardo. Last season was interrupted by injuries too, same as the season before, so really, we are only seeing him get a run in his natural areas of the pitch for the first time this season, like Denilson last season (although Denilson did have to cover at RM when various were out injured…). And like Denilson, he will have grown in confidence and consistency by Christmas.
Denilson:
06/07: 19
07/08: 23
08/09: 51 !!!
Total in last two seasons: 74
Alex Song:
05/06: 9
06/07: 6
07/08: 15
08/09: 48 !!!
Total in last two seasons: 63
By: Finsburyparker on November 1, 2009
at 4:14 pm
ARSENE ROSE THATS MY WORST NIGHTMARE TV OR WG INJURED AND SENDEROS AGAINST DROGHNA
By: SOLGOONER on November 1, 2009
at 4:16 pm
Song played 12 times for Charlton in 06/07
By: Finsburyparker on November 1, 2009
at 4:22 pm
great result yesterday.just love the rvp and cecs celebrations.i thought our football was slow yesterday but i’ll take that result any day .the suporters were fantantic yesterday,the Emerites should be like that for every home game.good post as usual yogi.
By: trinigooner on November 1, 2009
at 4:29 pm
Adrian Durham is a career journalist who is dependent on creating an atmosphere of controversy to sell his weekday radio show. Very predictable and dingy tabloid journalism where Durham makes a presentation with an equally clueless idiot in an attempt to play good cop bad cop.
His sidekick Darren Gough will take a controversial opposing position from Durham to invent the air of controversy and they will solicit phone calls to make it look that people out there are really angry about their concocted subject matter.
Don’t be surprised on Monday for Durham to start his show by stating that Arsenal are still crap and beating Tottenham means shit, and Gough taking the opposite view that Tottenham can’t still hit the top four.
Pathetic really. In fact Durham’s producer should be taken out back and shot for lack of creativity. But like many tabloids, their aim is to create controversy enough to anger people to call and protest. It makes their station look busy.
By: Darius Stone on November 1, 2009
at 4:31 pm
That’s as good a description of the modern media as any, Darius.
Sad, isn’t it? Anybody remember journalistic integrity or the respect that the BBC used to be held in worldwide?
Sold for a cheap headline.
By: consolsbob on November 1, 2009
at 4:56 pm
Don’t be surprised if tomorrow’s invented controversy is the “vile abuse” good ol Arry had to endure from ONE solitary Arsenal fan yesterday!
It will conveniently over take any talk about Arsenal’s performance and not one of the hypocritical twats will have the nerve to mention the chants Wenger has suffered and still does from 1000s of opposition fans; mainly spuds and Mancs.
By: Spike on November 1, 2009
at 5:15 pm
DS
Do what most Gooners do.Dont listen to Talkshite.If you dont listen you wont get upset.
By: Arsene Rose on November 1, 2009
at 5:23 pm
Sorry Bob but i wasnt around back then when the bbc was respected. You are showing your age now are’nt you.
Had a little listen earlier to that fat Danny something or other, you know that fat yiddo on talkshite. well he and every spud that rang in whilst i was driving somewhere to dump something off that was constantly giving off a whining noise and really pissing me off, were saying how tottenham let us score our goals by being lazy. no talk about how RVp, Fab n Saggy were just to clever for them dicks.
By: DukeGoonem on November 1, 2009
at 5:34 pm
To be fair AR Drogba has terrorised even the best defenders. Ferdinand and Vidic were battered at the bridge. And the last time Drogba played and we lost Toure and Gallas were the defensive partnership.Believe me there is no team in the prem or on earth that wouldnt suffer without their first choice CH. Chelsea struggle without Terry/Carvalho , Manu without Ferdinand/vidic no team is immune. Dont believe that any team would fair better. I think Swiss Tony will surprise a lot of people. Anyway its the referee weve got to worry about. That Drogba has scored so many offside goals against us it is unreal. This time we will break Cheskis heart.
By: Gooner4Life on November 1, 2009
at 5:37 pm
I actually thought that the chavs ‘wonder goal’ was offside.
Your wife finally went too far did she Duke?
The woman must be a saint.
By: consolsbob on November 1, 2009
at 5:45 pm
Chelski’s heart? You mean that piece of coal? They have no hearts!
By: Spike on November 1, 2009
at 5:46 pm
I thought after the AZ game that maybe we were suffering from a backlash, either intentional or otherwise from Eduardo’s shit-storm, created by the Celtic players, SFA big knobs and some politician.
After Wenger’s comments about it, seemes there might actually be something to it then.
What odds on us not getting a single penalty this season?
By: Spike on November 1, 2009
at 5:57 pm
Consols ~ am sure you’re rather bored of your “outing”..but it was only a question of time before those chickens [and cocks] got to you..
Seriously: Where are the Spud blogs ? Looking, as one does, for a little Shadenfreude this a.m, i Googled them, and they’re still debating Martin Jol…
Seems we have a plethora of good, bad and obnoxious blogs, whereas they have none.
Step up to the centre circle, you totts..
By: ponyboy on November 1, 2009
at 6:03 pm
Seriously, Pb, the whole episode backfired as it really did make me feel physically sick putting myself inside a spud skin, even in jest. Shudder central.
Perry Groves on 606 if anyone is interested.
By: consolsbob on November 1, 2009
at 6:17 pm
I quite like Harry Hotspur – try googling that, PB. The spuds fans are pretty good at gallows humour. And when you add Schadenfreude you’ve got quite an entertaining mix.
By: OneOfUs on November 1, 2009
at 6:18 pm
Thanks Big Al / CB… Shall check them out…
By: ponyboy on November 1, 2009
at 6:24 pm
A very sad spud just blamed Clattenberg for their defeat yesterday. Funny really because I thought he had a shocker too.
He seemed to be making decisions based on his own personal rule book rather than that supplied by the FA. Very eccentric.
By: consolsbob on November 1, 2009
at 6:25 pm
I think Spurs were unlucky yesterday – unlucky to have inferior players in every position.
By: Poliziano on November 1, 2009
at 6:29 pm
Poor spuds, now out of the top 4.
hahahahaha.
By: notlager on November 1, 2009
at 6:38 pm
I think you are being unfair on ‘arry, Pz, there was no luck involved.
It takes decades of experience and a lot of money to build a side like we saw play us at the NHOF yesterday.
By: consolsbob on November 1, 2009
at 6:39 pm
Consoles. I followed your cue and switched on 606. I had popped out for a sec and thought I heard Perry Groves in the background stating that Alex Song is not good enough for Arsenal and he can’t hack the big games.
What an idiot. Groves still wants Wenger to buy a hard man ‘who is capable of braking up play’ in the middle of the park. Some of these pundits should get a real job and get back into the real world.
By: Darius Stone on November 1, 2009
at 6:48 pm
speaking of schadenfreude, what’s up with Hleb? Is he frustated?
By: notlager on November 1, 2009
at 6:54 pm
Darius – heard exactly the same thing; have to disagree ; he said he’d call him a great player if he can play this way against Chavski etc.
Apparently no-one ever sees or hears the same thing, rather like every snowflake is unique… (?)
By: ponyboy on November 1, 2009
at 6:54 pm
I agree with you both. He is of the dolphin impersonator persuasion. I did not claim that his views were worth listening to, although his views on Benitez seem sound enough!
Incidentally, it occurred to me that as a player he was the Craig Bellamy of his day
By: consolsbob on November 1, 2009
at 6:59 pm
Fran Merida is a studio pundit on the now (7pm) (SS1) Malaga vs Valencia match.
Intelligent comments and very good english!
Only downside is that Guillem Balague will undoubtedly be tapping him up for whatever Spanish team currently he works for (Ath Madrdi and Seville have expressed interest in Merida).
I suspect the delay in Merida’s new contract is only over negotiations for higher wages, particularly with the lousy UK tax position. I hope that Arsenal make a suitable exception for this talented player.
By: jbh on November 1, 2009
at 7:09 pm
PB…Like I said, I was out back in the garden and was only coming back so I put 2 and 2 together.
But seriously, Song was magnificent at Old Trafford. If playing a blinder against the other big 3 sides (Chelski, Manure and Liverpool) is the yard stick to measure a first class DM, then we all have the Old Trafford match to go by – and in that match, Song passed with flying colours.
Perry Groves doesn’t have any more information than we do and if he doesn’t recognize what Song can do based on his performance criteria, then I can only conclude that he has decided that Song will never be good enough. That makes him an idiot in my book.
By the way, has anyone noticed that the pundits and hacks who pissed in the wind at the beginning of the season with their “Arsenal will drop out of the top 4 because they’re just not good enough” nonsense have now changed their tune to the 4th place will be a fight between Arsenal, Liverpool and Man City. I’m talking about punks like Claridge, Hanson and Phil “There’s only a big 3″ Thompson.
Hopefully, by the end of November, we’ll change the tune to “Arsenal will not go the full length, they’ll faulter in the cold winter of the north west”.
Even when Arsenal win the premiership, it will never be because Arsenal were worthy champions and they played like champions. It’ll be because Chelski, Manure, Liverpool and Man City weren’t good enough.
Sky sports have a bigger problem because their marketign strategy for this season includes the ‘Sky 4′ of Chelski Manure Liverpool and Man City. They clearly had no plan of Arsenal crashing this party.
By: Darius Stone on November 1, 2009
at 7:11 pm
Why would anyone expect Perry Groves to be any better, or knowledgeable a pundit than merson, or Thompson or Claridge or Wright?
He has no insider knowledge, he played the game, but that is hardly a yard stick for football intelligence.
He is just as prone to lazy generalisations and making up his mind on a player just like any fan does.
Arsenal are weak defensively apparantly, yet in the same sentence a pundit will say what a great partnership Gallas and Vermeallen are!
Just becuae an ex-player gets sent to remial Presenters college, doesnt mean what he says will be worth a toss, just that he will say it, on cue, to the right camera in a nice suit.
By: Spike on November 1, 2009
at 7:25 pm
Of course, that is supposed to be remedial! Durrr
By: Spike on November 1, 2009
at 7:26 pm
Pundit of the Week:
Glen Hoddle (SS Ch league) re Arsenal:
“great pretty play, good to watch (when have we heard this before) but they are not clinical enough, they do not score enough when in scoring position”
Lets not let the facts get in the way of the opinion Glen.
Premier League this year:
Chelsea – shots/attempts 202, goals 28 (efficiency 13.9%)
MU – shots 152, goals 23 (efficiency 15.1%)
Liv – shots 164, goals 25 (efficiency 15.2%)
Ars – shots 155, goals 32 (efficiency 20.6%)
Last years CL winners – Barcelona shots 176, goals 32 (efficiency 18.2%)
By: jbh on November 1, 2009
at 7:46 pm
http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/2510/newzombiehalloweenposte.jpg
By: abid on November 1, 2009
at 7:55 pm
Great to see `Arry sucking those lemons yesterday.
I can`t understand why people are worried about Chelsea either. We`ll put them away too.
On Diaby – he looks low on confidence to me & the reason he kept it simple was largely because he was terrified of doing something wrong & getting stick from the crowd.
I can`t understand it at all. Some Real Madrid players are only picked away from the Bernebeu & the way we`re going we`ll be the same at this rate.
By: Paulie Walnuts on November 1, 2009
at 8:05 pm
jbh – very good.
I think a movement should be started which highlights this bullshit punditry. The moment that Jamie Redknapp said that our squad was weaker due to the loss of Toure and Adebayor, he lost all credibility. If a pundit can say something as glib as that, then it follows that everything else they say is equally suspect.
Andy Dunn, not even mentioning Arsenal on the Sunday Suppository, choose to highlight instead, that Liverpool’s squad was weaker in comparison to the chavs and the mancs.
It will be a beautiful moment, if arsenal do win the title, to write to these smug bastards, like John Richardson and Andy Dunn, with their chavs and mancs love in, and tell them that if they had any pride, they should end their careers as tabloid bullshitters and go and do something with a bit more substance.
By: Muppet on November 1, 2009
at 8:06 pm
Muppet. You’re onto something right there.
I think we should create a dossier for each of these pundits containing their bullshit and countering their ridiculous assertions with facts like what JBH has found above.
If we write to them, they’ll only throw it in the bin. We should just publish the dossier in our own terms and on our own blogs and point them and their enemies to it.
The truth is that these punks know that they were wrong about Arsenal and short of willing us to fail so that they don’t look as idiotic as they sound, they ignore what Arsenal is doing in the hope that we’ll slip up. When we occasionally draw a game or give away a goal, rest assured they’ll rear their ugly mugs with the usual “soft underbelly” and no English grit and steel” nonsense.
Take yesterday for example. They couldn’t even recognize the brilliance of RVP and Cesc to execute the first two goals in the space of 50 secs. They’re hell bent on suggesting that spurs rolled over in embarrassment. If we win with efficiency they say we don’t play well and we didn’t play Wengerball.
By: Darius Stone on November 1, 2009
at 8:20 pm
Muppet;
What? Didn’t Andy Dunng mention that he said that the spuds would beat us yesterday either? I am sure he was dying to pull himself up for suggesting that Arsenal are fragile and that Arry’s spuds would have too much for us.
Because as we all kow, these hacks are forever admitting when they get it 100% wrong aint they, erm.
By: Spike on November 1, 2009
at 8:29 pm
Absolutely Darius. If and english player had scored the goal that Cesc did yesterday, there would have been headlines hailing him as the new messi. Did you see any english player score a goal as good as that in the last 10 years ? Did you ? So, given that it was so good, and was it Wenger’s 1000th goal, or thereabouts, who do we see closing out Match of The Day – we see dogbreath scoring from a single tap in.
The media in this country are so hopelessly biased towards their favourites, Drogba, Lampard, Rooney, Torres, Terry, that they try to convince themselves that Spurs have a squad with lot’s of depth (Hansan’s comment last night). Fuck off Hansan, the carling cup team that we put out on Wednesday would have beaten spurs. What an absolute joke of a statement coming from supposedly one of the foremost pundits in the country. If angels could weep.
By: Muppet on November 1, 2009
at 8:30 pm
Spike,
No.. Did he predict that ? Surprise Surprise. No wonder he didn’t want to mention the arsenal game.
By: Muppet on November 1, 2009
at 8:33 pm
Yeah, let’s compile a list of these twats, who, let’s not forget, get a freakin wage for churning out lazy, half baked bollocks.
Andy Dunn, Stan Doggiemore, Phil Top 3 Thompson, Brian Woolnough, Martin spud Lipton, Rob Weasely and Ian Wright all said we wouldn’t even finish top 4. And those are the ones I can remember.
By: Spike on November 1, 2009
at 8:34 pm
Pedants corner:
PUNDIT – From the Sanskrit; a LEARNED and ERUDITE person, who knows what there is to know, spiritually and otherwise; an advisor to the king..should be versed in the Shastras – which takes atleast 20 years –
Couch potatoes, the – aaargh!!
Frothing at the mouth, so time to lie down and twitch.
By: ponyboy on November 1, 2009
at 8:34 pm
For those who want Arsenal to venture into the mad world of sugar daddy billionaires:
Mr Nello (the restaurant owner) presented the Chelsea owner with a commemorative football at the end of his meal. He said: ‘I love soccer and I have lots of balls that I give away to special customers. Roman was happy.
‘I told him he should buy the New York Yankees but he said, “No thank you, I have enough trouble with Chelsea as it is. Let me finish off what I am doing with them first.”’
Last night Mr Abramovich’s spokesman confirmed he was in the New York restaurant on Friday lunchtime with his girlfriend, son and friends.
I wonder what ‘finishing what I’m doing with Chelsea’ means?
By: Darius Stone on November 1, 2009
at 8:48 pm
To the person who mentioned Claridge: was that the program last week that had Lee Dixon on as well? What was remarkable to me was how wholeheartedly our very own Lee queued behind Claridge to crap on our team.
Diaby: morons go on and on about how a fit Nasri will displace him. Diaby is in on merit. Nasri was fit , last 2 games. Diaby is still in the team
By: ole gunner on November 1, 2009
at 8:49 pm
Muppet;
Yep, he did alright!
Arsenal could win the next 10 games 1-0 and some of these twats would STILL suggest we are either defensively weak, or too profligate infront of goal, or both!
The fact they could equate the sells of Kolo and Ade as Arsenal becoming weaker shows them up for what they are; lazy, cliche ridden fools. They don’t research or look at the bigger picture, or take into account, other players development, natural progression etc.
When CRonaldo loeft United, most of the Fergie brown nosers in the media came out with bullshit like; “Oh his departure will allow Rooney the freedom to shine…”
Wheras all we got was “Arsenal sell 2 players, therefore they are now weaker.”
By: Spike on November 1, 2009
at 8:53 pm
Will we get a penalty given for us this season? If only Eduardo had known that Arsenal are always punished beyond reason & often in unspoken ways.
B
By: ole gunner on November 1, 2009
at 9:03 pm
I am realy not one for conspiracy theories. I realy do think that life just not that exciting. But theres no denying you lot are on to something.
There is absoloutley no way around it, everyone seems to be anti-arsenal, and unless there all closet bnp folks i just cant understand why?
I couldnt believe the negativity coming out of the commentry box at sky when we tonked blackburn the other week.
For me the worst of the lot….and there is an awful lot is graeme souness…no one quite does it with as much venom and contempt as him….playing down the win against milan criminaly a couple of seasons back. How jamie redknapp is a pundit is one of the great mysteries of life.
By: deano on November 1, 2009
at 9:04 pm
Yeah Spike. Actually, on a bright note, to give Andy Gray some credit, he said tonight on his post match program that he was not one of those doom and gloom merchants who were so negative about arsenal’s chances pre-season. He said that arsenal had a fantastic young team who had gained a year of experience, and he even analysed some of the tactics yesterday where he believe that lessons were being learned in light of some of problems where we have lost leads after that last year. So, well done Andy Gray.
By: Muppet on November 1, 2009
at 9:06 pm
also the fact vermaelen dosent even seem to be acknowledged is very suspect indeed.
Fabregases goal yesterday gets better every time I see it.
Determination, desire, technique and class will never see a better combined exhibition this season.
Why is it not recognised by the people who are paid to recognise it?
By: deano on November 1, 2009
at 9:07 pm
also johnathon pearce…..love him
By: deano on November 1, 2009
at 9:08 pm
Sorry – where we have lost leads after going ahead in games over the last year.
By: Muppet on November 1, 2009
at 9:09 pm
We’re the best team in the league so far this season. The pundits can shove that reality up their individual arses.
By: ole gunner on November 1, 2009
at 9:11 pm
It’s easy Deano. Some are anti-Wenger. Some are anti-Arsenal spuds. Many are BNP-lite and hate our phrenchness.
What I still want to know is what basis anyone could have for saying led King is better than Gallas.
By: ole gunner on November 1, 2009
at 9:22 pm
Harry was right when he said
“I thought they were edgy, they were giving the ball away, the crowd was moaning at every mistake”
granted the rest of his diatribe was way off base, but I think we are glossing over the fact that Arsenal wasn’t that good, especially in the first half. Careless passing and hard work by Spurs made it difficult for us to get into the flow of the game.
Having said that, it must bode well to to play at 75% yet win by 3 goals, if it were any other top 4 team it would be called championship winning potential.
By: wengerball on November 1, 2009
at 9:23 pm
Following some of the hysterical media reaction to our conceding a two goa lead at West Ham last week I`ve searched in vain for similar in respect of Stoke & West Ham doing likewise yesterday. What`s more, Stoke conceded twice to set plays so I`d imagine they`ll soon be seen as soft centred, lacking in killer instinct & physically inept.
Where Arsenal are concerned pundits get lazy. They feign to love our football then always follow it with a `but`& you just feel we`re constantly pidgeon-holed. How many times have you heard Hansen or `Lawro` go on about Bolton / Thugburn being our nemesis but if you look at the facts they rarely do well against us.
By: Paulie Walnuts on November 1, 2009
at 9:25 pm
Sorry if this is old news, but I just read that Almunia has been dealing family tragedy. According to Steve Stammers.
“Almunia has been comforting his wife since his mother-in-law was killed in a car crash in Spain six weeks ago.
Although the 32-year-old showed immense professionalism and stuck rigidly to his training schedule, manager Arsene Wenger decided Almunia should be given time to deal with the tragedy and left him out of the first-team line-up.”
By: wengerball on November 1, 2009
at 9:26 pm
Muppet;
Yeah, kudos to Gray. He has been one of the very few pundits who saw the potential in this team for success.
Never thought I’d say that! Fair play to him.
By: Spike on November 1, 2009
at 9:30 pm
Well, a few dusted off the old “If we had a Tony Adams we wouldnt have lost a 2 goal lead vs West ham.”
I’m sorry, would Tony Adams have been able to cajole the ref into seeing that the foul for the freekick that lead to the 1st hammers goal was no bleedin foul? Or that Parker and then Cole dived to get a penalty? Or perhaps Adams would’ve had a 6th sense and known that Mannone would divert the ball into the path of Cole?
Wow! We definitely miss a Tony Adams like that for sure.
By: Spike on November 1, 2009
at 9:36 pm
wengerball, the edgyness was understandable. They no doubt had the 4 – 4 in their heads and were more scared of making a mistake than really going for it. That is was the spuds were able to capitalize on in the opening 40 minutes. But once we got our noses in front the handbrake came off and we could and should have slaughtered them, but for some wayward finishing.
Re the pundits – a great example of their lack of research was Merson yesterday claiming that Denilson’s absence is due to him having been dropped! If you are going to get paid to comment it would take no great effort to find out that Denilson is injured. That to me says it all and is absolutely disgraceful particularly given that he is ex-Arsenal and also gets paid for a monthly column in the Arsenal magazine.
By: Passenal on November 1, 2009
at 9:41 pm
Dogbreath…ha ha.Love it Muppet.Spot on Darius, Spike, jbh. There is definitely an unashamadley sickening media bias bordering on xenophobia towards chelsea and Man u as they extole the empty one dimensional values that make all these journo types foam at the mouth.
Someone seems to have convinced these trolls that titles can be won in only one way as if the formula for success was that straight forward..Forget that both clubs are running at unservicable levels of debt, stiffling the development of youth, have questionable morals , are perennial agitators and disrespectors of refs, illegally tap up players, dive outrageously, are dull, are favoured by refs. It is best to ignore their misinformed twaddle until we get some proper pundits who dont have an agenda.
Is it not strange how we are called weak but at the same time Wenger is accused of having the worst disiplinary record and players sent of with red cards. How we are accused of having a poor susd when our 2nd string could beat most teams.Furthermore wtf is with where are the goals going to come from when the whole team can score for fun. Wenger is breaking the mould every season and we have got the doomers riled.
By: Gooner4Life on November 1, 2009
at 9:45 pm
Just one more from me on hacks and pundits tonight anyway!
I saw a Sun hacks column in which he dragged up the old chaesnut about how a team can’t win a league with a poor keeper. Slated all FOUR of our keepers, saying none of them were good enough. Well, how the feck he can drag poor young Szesny into any keeper debate is beyond me, considering he has played ONE senior game, oh and kept a clean sheet FFS!
Then he brought up Richard Wright as proof of WEnger’s failing in this department. I suppose the fact Richard Wright won a league title in his 1st season with us was probably left out due to the fact he had reached his word limit on the article.
By: Spike on November 1, 2009
at 9:57 pm
Spike, they will continue to find sticks to beat us with, but each one is getting thinner.
By: Passenal on November 1, 2009
at 10:11 pm
Passenal;
I know. its
By: Spike on November 1, 2009
at 10:24 pm
getting thinner and thinner!
By: Spike on November 1, 2009
at 10:25 pm
“granted the rest of his diatribe was way off base, but I think we are glossing over the fact that Arsenal wasn’t that good, especially in the first half”
Ok, this is what gets me mad…how can you say that we weren’t good when Sp*rs, like West Ham, had decided to pack the midfield and play an incredibly negative game? They tried to prevent our players from getting any chances and space but the boys kept on trying and trying and trying. It was a good tactic but, as someone pointed out, very risky given the fact that we have the potential to knock in 4 goals on average at home. Our creativity and persistance won out in the end but don’t accuse the team of playing badly. They worked their socks off to get the game going. It was difficult and anyone could see that.
I understood the moans Diaby was getting because, frankly, he was slightly off. I got a bit agitated as well and I regret it. Ole Gunner was right the other time…Diaby can do a fantastic job its just that sometimes the crowd seem to scare him into not trying risky things. I’ll maintain that I wish others were given more of a run in the team in his place at times. It’s one thing discussing something on a blog and quite another to actually whine about a player during a match. At home. Ridiculous. He’s put on an Arsenal shirt, he’s on the pitch, he’s playing for us so just shut up or cheer him on. There’s no point in helping the opposition by getting on his back.
Anyway, re-watch the game if you like…this is the 10th time I’ve read that Arsenal won because the opposition played badly. It’s starting to sound really silly now to be honest. 1 time lucky, yes. twice lucky, sure. 10 + 3 times? You’re having a laugh.
By: abid on November 1, 2009
at 10:26 pm
err..by “risky” I mean Diaby-esque stuff in a good way. Like creative dribbles or attempts at passing and so on. I liked his performance in the final 30 minutes of the second half but I’m sure he would’ve gotten into the game much sooner had it not been for the pressure.
By: abid on November 1, 2009
at 10:29 pm
agreed abid……….patheticly brainless journalism aside….how exciting is this season turning out to be?
Chelsea game at the end of the month. A brilliant opportunity to show exactly how good we are.
By: deano on November 1, 2009
at 10:45 pm
abid, the whole point is that the constant slagging off of Diaby on blogs and pointing out his short-comings is exactly why his every error is greeted by audible groans in the ground. You appear to be an intelligent person, but I’m amazed that you cannot see the obvious link. I actually read a stat somewhere that he made 4 poor passes out of 45 yesterday. How many stray passes did Arshavin make? And I think you are wrong about better players who could have replaced him. Ramsey is young and inexperienced, not good in the air and gives the ball away a lot – on Weds he nearly gifted Liverpool a chance to equalize by fart-arsing about on the ball in front of our penalty box. Nasri is a good player but he does not have the height or physicality of Diaby. Denilson, Rosicky and Walcott are injured and Merida and Wilshere could not do the job that Diaby was asked to do yesterday. Arsene will pick the player who is right for the tactics he wants to play, so you might as well accept that and support all the players regardless of your personal preferences.
By: Passenal on November 1, 2009
at 10:54 pm
Well said abid. We’re all getting sick of the nonsense that the opposition have all been playing badly. Everton of course, were distracted by the Lescott saga. Fulham, Blackburn, Birmingham, Portsmouth – all going through adjustments and transition. All 3 of the Arsenal goals yesterday ? – all accidents or gifts courtesy of the tottenham defence. Hmmmm….
By: Muppet on November 1, 2009
at 11:03 pm
Well said Passenal. The lens through which Diaby bashers are viewing, is reinforcing each passage of play that doesn’t meet their expectations, the view that Diaby doesn’t cut it, in their eyes. An objective lens would observe that Fabregas lost the ball, Arshavin lost the ball, and on occasions, Van Persie lost the ball. It seems to me, observing Wenger’s instructions, that Song and Diaby were being asked to play the role of 2 holding midfielders, but as Andy Gray pointed out, not for the whole game, but especially after we went 3-0 up, to protect the lead. This being the case, what is the problem ? Diaby is fast, combative and athletic. He has an eye for the goal, and hasn’t yet completed a full season without having an injury. He needs a run of games, which is what Wenger is giving him.
By: Muppet on November 1, 2009
at 11:14 pm
Here here Passenal and Muppet.
Diaby has to be given the run of games that he needs to cement his confidence and play freely. Without these games there’s no way he can build consistency.
Frankly speaking, Arshavin and Cesc sometimes have howlers that no one seems to notice.
Diaby has a specific job in the team, and his doomers are choosing not to acknowledge his contribution to our team. We’re lucky then that he doesn’t get the same amount of grief from Wenger or his team mates for they already know what he’s truly capable of, and like themselves, will never begrudge a colleague the opportunity to realise their potential. If Wenger didn’t tough it out with them, they wouldn’t be who they are.
By: Darius Stone on November 1, 2009
at 11:24 pm
Ole gunner on November 1, 2009
at 8:49 pm
“To the person who mentioned Claridge: was that the program last week that had Lee Dixon on as well? What was remarkable to me was how wholeheartedly our very own Lee queued behind Claridge to crap on our team.
Diaby: morons go on and on about how a fit Nasri will displace him. Diaby is in on merit. Nasri was fit , last 2 games. Diaby is still in the team”.
No m8 this was at the start of the season, the anti arsenal bias is real and so entrenched that the we are “still in need of a striker” , “lack depth” “need a dm” etc etc etc.
47 goals we’ve scored this season in all competitions 32 of which have been in the league after 10 games. To put that into perspective Everton managed 55 in the league last year and Villa 54 and Fulham finished the season on 39 goals, that the teams that finished 5th 6th and 7th last year.
The media analysis of Arsenal isn’t lazy, isn’t inept, it’s simply bias. It is what a number of journalists and ex players want to believe, deliberately propagate hoping it will be corrosive, the reality of where this Arsenal team are is very different.
Bendtnar, Waltcot, Vela, RVP, Eduardo, Arshavin, Rosicky, Nasri, Fabregas are the creative and attacking options and for me it stacks up against any team in the world, but those players aren’t good enough for Steve Claridge or Andy Dunn. Now I’m not an expert but given that we have never been lucky enough to have them fit at the same time and still manage to score would seem to suggest the strength of the team. But I forgot we can only score when other teams gift us Goals, none of the old cliches of good teams punishing mistakes applies to the Gunners its always the other teams fault that we win.
By: Bradys right foot on November 1, 2009
at 11:31 pm
Darius/Muppet, I’m glad that Wenger is not influenced by the crowd or he would have never played 16 year old Fabregas and given up on Song, Denilson and Eboue before they could show their capabilities. I’m not sure how many times some supporters need to be shown that they are wrong to make snap judgements before they just sit down, shut up and support every player wearing an Arsenal shirt.
By: Passenal on November 1, 2009
at 11:33 pm
i am still not impressed with this performance even though we won.but their is stll alot of work to be done in order for us to look like a serious title genuine side.but i still think we need to buy some players to boost up our squad.and i think the position we desperately need to strengthen is defensive midfield.and i Don’t think song and denilson are the players who i think might do that job of being a defensive midfielde.but thanks to arsene that we have to stick with then players.
By: gooner2 on November 1, 2009
at 11:40 pm
them players i meant.
By: gooner2 on November 1, 2009
at 11:42 pm
I don’t believe that Wenger has had to “tough it out” with any of our players. The notion that players like Song and Eboue played badly for month after month and yet were kept in the team is a myth. Song had perhaps a couple of games last season where he looked a little sluggish. Eboue also had a couple of games which went wrong for one reason or another. The doomers, however, have not been guilty of lack of faith, but of a wish to find fault where there is none. In an effort to to justify their perfidy in retrospect, they have spread the lie that Wenger had to show great indulgence to these players. In other words, they have tried to turn Wenger into themselves. It won’t work.
By: Poliziano on November 1, 2009
at 11:44 pm
gooner2 – you can’t have it all, we’ve had better performances and come out with nothing. 3 points is 3 points.
By: Passenal on November 1, 2009
at 11:45 pm
Good point, gooner2. Denilson was completely anonymous yesterday.
By: Poliziano on November 1, 2009
at 11:47 pm
I wish gooner2 would become anonymous.
By: Dupsffokcuf on November 1, 2009
at 11:53 pm
Poliziano
yes i know denilson was completely anonymous yesterday but when he returns back to the aquad he will do nothing but shit.
Dupsffokcuf
i hope you die to.
By: gooner2 on November 2, 2009
at 12:13 am
squad i meant.
By: gooner2 on November 2, 2009
at 12:22 am
gooner2 it seems your brain already died.
By: Dupsffokcuf on November 2, 2009
at 12:23 am
no It’s the other way around mate.coz my brain is fully funtioned and i Don’t drink any alcohol to fill my brain up as you do.
By: gooner2 on November 2, 2009
at 12:36 am
Credit where its due:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/nov/01/alex-ferguson-arsene-wenger-manchester-united
Now we can only hope that the message penatrates some of their supports’ thick skulls.
By: abid on November 2, 2009
at 12:37 am
Passenal: “I’m glad that Wenger is not influenced by the crowd or he would have never played 16 year old Fabregas and given up on Song, Denilson and Eboue before they could show their capabilities.”
I’m not worried. Wenger’s belief in his team and players have never wavered. Even when players are transferred, he has always been gracious in recognising their contributions. These ex-players’ true worth to us are often revealed by themselves when they start to bad mouthed us, but never by Wenger.
By: Luke on November 2, 2009
at 2:01 am
The commentators at Birmingham v Man City game yesterday was enthusing so much about Shay Givens. If they are honest about it, the penalty taken by McFadden was a poor and entirely saveable one. Birmingham should have buried Money City good and proper as Man City was that poor.
By: Luke on November 2, 2009
at 2:14 am
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By: Gunner4Ever on November 2, 2009
at 2:24 am
There were times last season that Van Persie was absolute rubbish. He’d get the ball taken away from him easier than I’ve seen for quite a long time. Since Van Persie is one of the golden boys he doesn’t get picked on. Better yet he gets tremendous leeway when he is out of form. On the other hand players like Song, Eboue, Bendtner, Diaby and Denilson get no slack eventhough they do well more than they do badly. Personally, I’ve liked Diaby ever since he came to Arsenal. His form is a bit frustrating sometimes but anyone not seeing the huge potential inherent in that player needs to get his eyes checked. The same goes for Bendtner and the rest.
By: Gainsbourg69 on November 2, 2009
at 3:04 am
has anyone looked at the fixture list for the end of this month and early December? It’s brutal:
11-29 SUN Chelsea
12-1 TUE at Man City (Carling)
12-2 WED Bolton
12-5 SAT Stoke
12-9 WED at Olymiakos (UCL)
12-13 SUN at Liverpool
12-16 WED at Burnley
12-19 SAT Hull
unless the Bolton game can be moved again we will almost have no option but to play a team of reserves in the Carling Cup. The bench players should see plenty of time in Athens as well.
By: KansasGooner on November 2, 2009
at 3:34 am
Gainsbourg69
Given your perception that van Persie last season was absolute rubbish, the unconventional deployment of van Persie as the main striker leading the line this season is another Wenger’s masterstroke. It’s absolute genius!
By: Luke on November 2, 2009
at 4:03 am
van Persie’s transfer fee: £2.75 million
By: Luke on November 2, 2009
at 4:05 am
Kansas Gooner. I’m sure the Bolton fixture was made earlier without consideration of teams’ progress in the Carling Cup competition. That fixture should be postponed.
By: Luke on November 2, 2009
at 4:07 am
@Kansas Gooner.
Everyone will be arning their palying time now. Around that time Denilson should be coming back.
Some options For Mid:
Diaby Cesc Song
Denilson Cesc Song
Denilson Ramsey Song
Eboue Nasri Song
Diaby Nasri Cong
We are covered for those games. Hoper we get bendtner back in and Eduardo in full steam.
Other than the Chelsea game, of which we will be at par or higher than them in points, am not worried by any game. We have a large enough squad.
Upwards and onwards
By: arsenalkabisa on November 2, 2009
at 6:04 am
… someone would think there was a huge gulf in class between both teams.There wasn’t. Arsenal got lucky in that Spurs switched off at a crucial point in the game…
Interesting how more than Eight teams have switched off at crucial points in the game while playing Arsenal….
Spurs switched off Thrice!!!
By: arsenalkabisa on November 2, 2009
at 6:11 am
@Luke
That Bolton game is our game in hand. It will probably get postponed if we progress in the Carling cup
By: arsenalkabisa on November 2, 2009
at 6:12 am
The defense, including the much-maligned Almunia, was sensational yesterday. Absolutely terrific from Sagna and his dangerous crossing, Vermaelen and Gallas and their stalwart defending to Clichy and his composure and interceptions.
Wouldn’t rate any of them below a 9.
By: arsenalkabisa on November 2, 2009
at 6:29 am
When all is said and done, usually more was ever said than was done.
We at Arsenal FC shall do our talking on the pitch. Like Fabregas did with a sensational 2nd goal on Saturday that demonstrated his skill, confidence and talent.
If we were lucky last Saturday, then West Ham was lucky the week before and so was Alkmaar. Let’s just ignore all the anti-Arsenal negative talk.
By: Luke on November 2, 2009
at 6:46 am
Arshavin was shit on Saturday,come to think of it he has been for while(bar the goals) how many people noted that? I couldnt wait for him to be subbed. Glad to see even though Diaby had a shaky start, he improved tremendously in the 2nd half. Song as usual he was a star, Vermaelen and Gallas looked better than Vidic and Rio…that goal from Fab should have been the goal of the wk, everyone played their socks off and we got 3 goals(shd have been 5, the two missed from Eduardo any other day would have been goals),kept a clean sheet and still people underrate us.
Consolbob, noticed how people were on your case, they all seem to be new here so forgive them. Looking forward to Az come wednesday, we sure do have a bone to pick with them.
By: firstlady on November 2, 2009
at 6:58 am
firstlady – no I wouldn’t say he was shit, but then I don’t say that about any of our players in a public forum as it would be far too good reading for Spurs and ManU fans.
However I agree that the ludicrous expectations of last season have not been met. He hasn’t looked as lethal in pre-season nor these early matches. Give him time, he is a real talent and that will win out. Form is temporary and class is permanent.
By: steww on November 2, 2009
at 7:23 am
@stew and FL
Are you two demented?
His unpredictable runs were troublesome to the spurs defense. If am not wrong one mazy run even led to Cesc shooting for that unbelievable save from Gomes.
He runs at defenders like no one else… just wish he had the blistering pace of Theo… am sure he can match Theo on a quarter of a pitch
By: arsenalkabisa on November 2, 2009
at 7:38 am
More garbage about “backbone” from Alan Hansen: Arsène Wenger has given Arsenal much-needed backbone
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/leagues/premierleague/arsenal/6480967/Alan-Hansen-Arsene-Wenger-has-given-Arsenal-much-needed-backbone.html
By: Luke on November 2, 2009
at 8:05 am
@Luke
…When Chelsea face Manchester United at Stamford Bridge on Sunday, it will be a clash between the two teams most likely to win the league, but Arsène Wenger has now finally got both clubs genuinely looking over their shoulder at Arsenal.
is it only I, or has that phrase changed from the prior phrase:
blah blah blah blah blah Arsenal will Finish out of the top four blah blah blah blah blah Liverpool will win the EPL this year blah blah blah
By: arsenalkabisa on November 2, 2009
at 8:42 am
arsenalkabisa. I’m rooting for Chelsea 0-0 Man U in score, and 2-2 in red cards this Sunday. Hahaha.
By: Luke on November 2, 2009
at 8:52 am
hahahhaha Luke.
Either a man win or a draw. hope Chelsea drops some points.
Plus if man wins and the media focuses on them for a few more months, we will continue to slip under the radar… they forget we have a game in hand.
Hope The November bug doesn’t bite us. November/ December looks mental!!!
By: arsenalkabisa on November 2, 2009
at 8:55 am
I dont think Arshavin was shit, he played like he normally does. Drifts in and out of the game, makes a few amazing decisive passes, and half the time pops up with a goal or assist. Today was a today he didnt get the award, but you just know with Arshavin he is very likely to score. His vision, talent, and finishing is up there with the best. Why get on his back on a game where he didnt score. Please keep your mouth shut those who chat rubbish.
I have to say Diaby was absolutely terrible on the ball, he seems to have lost alot of confidence. I just hope he can swing things around and get the crowd on his side before we see another Eboue relapse. Our players shouldn’t be subjected to this sort of behaviour from their own supporters. I will keep on saying it, EVEN ADE didn’t deserve the stick he got. None of our players should receive that treatment while wearing an Arsenal shirt.
What good does it exactly do?
By: ChrisGoona on November 2, 2009
at 9:13 am
arsenalkabisa
2 away games now.. hoping for 6 points here and we will be in a fine position.
This is where the Song’s, Diaby’s, Eboues prove their worth. Their pyhsical presence will allow the Arshavins, and Cescs to dictate these tricky away encounters. Plus maybe Diaby can get some game time without the home crowd on his case!
By: ChrisGoona on November 2, 2009
at 9:15 am
Do you not see the hypocrisy in your own post ChrisGoona? Arshavin had an off day in some people’s opinions and they have expressed that, but he must not be criticised, yet Diaby who is younger and less experienced is described as ‘terrible on the ball’? Either all players are criticised for a poor performance or preferably none of them are. I’ll leave it to Arsene to decide who needs a word in their ear.
By: Passenal on November 2, 2009
at 9:19 am
ChrisGoona
Agree with you. We shouldn’t expect our players to be consistently perfect. Arshavin is doing fine with more to come from him. Genius deserves some lattitude for an occasional dip, and pls don’t expect Arshavin to run around like a headless chicken just to fit the “work ethic” mould.
By: Luke on November 2, 2009
at 9:22 am
http://www.arsenal.com/match/report/0910/post/first-team/arsenal-3-0-tottenham-hotspur-report?tab=gallery
look at: Pat Rice, Wenger, Eboue, Gibbs, Senderos, Nasri… that is what Cesc doeas to people…
Long may he live
By: arsenalkabisa on November 2, 2009
at 9:27 am
Agree with first lady, Arshavin was v poor indeed. He just doesn’t look interested. Take a look at him when he’s playing for Russia, he’s a completely different player.
Diaby didn’t have a great game but i thought his main role was to help combat against the height of Crouch, and to his credit he did very well. It would have been a very different game if Spurs had Lennon & Defoe in their team.
I thought Vermaelen was sensational again, player of the season contender?
By: rev on November 2, 2009
at 9:38 am
http://www.arsenal.com/assets/_files/images/nov_09/gun__1257149456_spurs31102009_8.jpg
By: arsenalkabisa on November 2, 2009
at 9:39 am
Hi…am new to the blog….love it! and love how Tom Dart sums up fabs goal “As Tottenham panicked and Fàbregas dribbled boldly forth, it was one of those moments when individual genius senses collective idiocy; when you realise that greatness is a combination of opportunism, technique and courage.” collective idiocy…i couldn’t have said it better myself..
By: Arseman on November 2, 2009
at 9:58 am
Passenal well said.. Most days I just don’t have the stomach for it..
By: Kitchen Sink on November 2, 2009
at 10:06 am
Passenal i agree..
I love Arshavin, but it just sucks how everyone picks on other players and never pick on stars when they have an off day. I havent been impressed much by Arshavin this season. And its not jus because he didnt score in that game, some of his passes were woeful!!Maybe he wasnt shit but he was terrible.
By: firstlady on November 2, 2009
at 10:50 am
Passenal @ 9:19 am – Excellent observation. We can’t be hypocrites to this or that Arsenal player and then in the next breath demand consistency from the pundits. Duh!
By: shotta-gunna on November 2, 2009
at 11:42 am
“Given your perception that van Persie last season was absolute rubbish, the unconventional deployment of van Persie as the main striker leading the line this season is another Wenger’s masterstroke. It’s absolute genius!”
I never said he was absolute rubbish. I said that he was bad from time to time. Don’t quote me on things I didn’t say. He had bad games last season just like Cesc had bad games last season yet no one ever moaned about them because they’re untouchable. The double standard is laughable.
By: Gainsbourg69 on November 2, 2009
at 5:56 pm
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