Eastenders – West Ham Preview

All of the media attention is turned northwards to Anfield, the scent of Rafa Benitez’s blood too much for them to ignore, leaving Arsene to prepare for this afternoon’s visit to Upton Park in relative calm. With no new injury worries from the midweek jaunt to Alkmaar, the squad is strengthened by the return of Eduardo from thigh-knack whilst Nicklas Bendtner’s groin-knack may have sufficiently healed for him to reclaim a place on the bench. Tomas Rosicky is still missing whilst Fabianski and Nasri seem likely to play in the Carling Cup clash with Liverpool to regain more match sharpness before perhaps making a first team comeback against the Tiny Tots next weekend.

West Ham are in poor form, there is no argument from that about that fact either. No wins since the opening day of the season with one point from their opening three home games has left them in the bottom three and seemingly in some trouble, three tough games immediately after this one will do little to assauge those fears either. They are, in fact, a prime example of a team that has caused so many problems for Arsenal in recent seasons. It is a sign of the squad’s maturity this season that anything other than an Arsenal win will be a major surprise.

Thankfully, Gianfranco Zola is adamant that he will not sacrifice his playing style in the chase for safety. Whether or not he is speaking with a forked tongue remains to be seen for it would be brave of him to step up to the plate and take Arsenal on at playing football rather than packing his midfield. It is a derby so expect some “full-blooded” tackles to arrive in the East End this afternoon but even then, Arsenal are well-placed to deal with them as Blackburn and Birmingham found out in recent weeks.

A key component of the improved Arsenal performances is Thomas Vermaelen, still sneaking under radars when the “signings of the summer” are mentioned in the press. Speaking in the Telegraph, the Belgian international seems almost grateful to be at Arsenal, surprised at the persistence of Steve Rowley who having watched him be part of a defence that conceded ten goals in two games, pursued him to a training camp for the national team.

His determination shown on the pitch continues off it, quietly understated. Such has been the level of his performances that those who decried him for not being a six foot ten centre back are having to revise their opinions. Kneejerk judgements are being served up in a crust over humble pie:

I know I’m not tall but, if you speak to people at Ajax they’ll tell you I was the best header there. They don’t care about how big I am, whenever we were defending a corner I always had to take the tallest guy. I’m not that tall but you have to jump so that’s how I try and compensate. I never trained for it. It’s just timing, I guess.

Vermaelen is quick to praise the talents of the Arsenal squad:

Playing and training with so many big stars, the beginning was a bit like a dream. I think Fábregas is brilliant. If you play against him in the little training games – eight against eight – it is almost impossible to win.

One of the reasons that the defence is playing well is the consistency of Alex Song. Emmanuel Eboue acknowledged this in this morning’s News of the World:

He can be like Makelele now that he has his chance to play. He has shown the supporters what he can do and they have started to believe in him

Consistency has been the key to that. Song is the template for those such as Eboue, winning over doubters. Even then, Song is the current version of Paul Davis, occupying the key defensive role to allow other attacking players to flourish having gradually won over supporters. Davis had similar problems initially with people clamouring for a hard tackling midfielder, failing to appreciate that anticipation is as much of a winning model in midfield as being prepared to dive in where boots are flying. In many instances, being able to anticipate is more advantageous to the attack, quickly releasing the ball for others to prompt.

Not too many changes should be expected this afternoon. Almunia is not guaranteed a place in the starting line-up with Arsene refusing to state outright that the Spaniard is his number one, preferring to deny that the Spaniard is not his number one. It is a subtle difference in words but should be motivating for him to prove Wenger wrong whilst letting Mannone know that performances are key to retaining his place. It would be harsh for the Italian to be dropped yet in some ways not that surprising. Perhaps Wenger is going to wait until the next international break before making that change.

I would expect a line-up of:

Mannone; Sagna, Gallas, Vermaelen, Clichy; Song, Fabregas, Diaby; Eboue, van Persie, Arshavin

to start this afternoon. As always a win is crucial to the title race. If United slip, the defeat at Old Trafford is almost negated, the gap one point to the reigning champions in the event of Arsenal and Liverpool winning. With Tottenham making a mockery of the pundits claiming they are now a top four side, there is a chance to put pressure on the top two.

Enjoy the match wherever you are watching it. ’til Tomorrow.

Posted on October 25, 2009, in Arsenal, Football, Premier League, Premiership, Soccer and tagged , , , , . Bookmark the permalink. 287 Comments.

  1. Fsho. Thank god for the late kickoff. I can wake up at an Earthly hour.

    2-0 to us.

  2. West Ham fan here guys and have to say that we need a win but really can’t even see us holding on for a draw, as for Vermaelen sneaking under the radar, he is top draw and would love a striker with his finishing ability in our squad.
    Genuinley mean good luck for the rest of the season but am praying for 3 points today, oh OK praying not to get humiliated. COYI.

  3. Very cool post Will. Good luck to your season also. Arsene likes you too, that’s clear. West Ham for the top …. um … 6. It would please us all no end if you could finish above tottenham please. May your resurgence really kick in next week!!!

  4. An interesting day of football to look forward to.

    The game today may not be as straight forward as we would want, but I believe we can do a professional job and put pressure at the top of the table. It’ll be nice also to have a Liverpool win or draw against the Mancs.

  5. I’m always amused to see YW quote NOTW.

  6. arsenal will beat west ham no doubt. i wonder why vela never starts?!?!?!?!?!?!, despite being excellent in the carling cup he never gets started in the league!!

    i think he should start instead of eboue against west ham, and if it doesnt work out, he can be subbed, but he has to be played, otherwise we will lose an amazing talent because he will be frustrated at his lack of first team football

  7. YW;

    Your blog is antithethical to tabloids….in my head.

  8. zalpa – stay calm. He’s young, learning his trade behind some great names and while I agree about his talent he himself admitted last year to not being ready.

  9. Yogi – If ManU drop points today and we win the result at Old Trafford will have been negated. We will be 1 or 2 points behind with a game in hand (Bolton at home).

    Almost a quarter of the way through the season and we are keeping pace with ManU and Chelsea with a reasonable degree of comfort.

  10. Excellent preview Yogi & I`m in 100% agreement on the starting XI if NB only makes the bench.

    Song has been exceptional so far this season but it`s no surprise following his progress last term. Vela is a couple of years behind him in development but will no doubt get there.

    Paul Davis may not have been hard tackling but boy , could he pack a punch.

    It`s going to be tricky at WHU today but thankfully they try to play a bit so our class should tell in the end.

    As usual, any win will do.

  11. im putting some money on eboue to score first….he’s due a goal i can feel it in the winds. the breezy winds.

  12. If Mannone was going to be dropped he would have been dropped after his error v Birmingham.But he did nothing wrong v AZ so he must keep his place.We are still unbeaten when Don Vito has started

    3-1 today hope Nic 52 starts instead of Eboue

  13. Gunner From Nigeria

    A bit apprehensive with this match but, i am quietly confident we would triumph. Keeping it tight at the back is key in case the goals arrives late.
    That Scott Parker should behave himself today as i don’t want any ligament injuries to our players. Re: Walcott

  14. Come on you GUNNERS! Great post Will, good luck this season outside of your matches with us. I’m a big fan of Zola as a manager and want to see him do well ( outside of matches against Arsenal).

    This is another important game against a squad that Arsenal should beat. With results starting to be a little strange (anyone think the Liverpool – manure match will be a normal one) a win today is more important than ever.

    ARSENAL

  15. I can’t remember a time where the Mancs & the Scousers were both in such poor form going into a match against each other, really hard game to call…which means it’ll probably be a really boring draw.

  16. haha lawro just praised “burgertoff’s” first touch

  17. this is such a dull game both sides poor

  18. Again United players mobbing the ref and Rooney whining endlessly but never carded.

    The respect for referee kind of crap pisses on itself as long as these kind of things go on. And FA overruling their one match bans (when they eventually get them) does not help much either.

  19. Torres is so brilliant. I didn’t think he’d score but the way he kept his cool was amazing and that touch…wow. Liverpool are lucky to have him.

    I think a draw would be better for us but a loss for United would wipe some of the smugness off of Ferguson which would be great. In any case, United dropping points is always a good occassion.

  20. argh! why would you sub Torres! >_< 10 minutes to go. argh!

  21. A R S E N A L

  22. oh Mannone in net! Didn’t see that one coming…

    also Nasri on the bench as well as Nicklas and Eboue starts.

  23. This match is hilarious. Seriously, Slur Alex’s head’s about to pop. Surely he’s paying for those comments about Wiley with some of these decisions.

  24. A goal from Ngog?! Now we’ve got to be in the twilight zone!

  25. never write Liverpool off as Arsene said…

  26. What time is it YW?

    Either you need to change your clocks or I do. This type of thing has always confused me.

    COME ON ARSENAL

  27. How did Reina get there in time to be the first to gongratulate N’Gog :D Some good sprinting there by him.

    So, Liverpool goes to Fulham without Mascherano and no Vidic for United’s game against Blackburn.

  28. Oh, wait a minute, the Carling Cup games count in this, right?

  29. yeah…this season’s turning into something else.

  30. Does anybody have a link to watch the game today?

  31. Well well well.

    Perfect scorline and result. Always good to see the Mancs lose and a good fight for Liverpool towards the end.

    What is it with Vidic and getting sent off against Liverpool?

    Of course all this means nothing if we don’t collect the points in East London.

  32. can’t find any reliable links….they;re showing the Citeh game for some reason :( boo!

  33. COME ON YOU GUNNERS!!!!!!

  34. OOU,

    Ngog is a good player. He’s no Torres but he’s no Bobby Zamora. Don’t believe the hype.

  35. If we win our 2 games in hand we’re potentially Top of the league!!

  36. oh for the love of!
    why are we playing in WHITE?!

  37. Same old bollocks from Jamie Rednapp, ‘…Arsenal have surprised me this season..didn’t think they’d be as good….very young midfield…..no strength in depth…blah,blah…sorry but I don’t actually know anything about Arsenal….Liverpool…blah blah….my Dad….’

  38. He probably is, OG. In fact, I feel the same way about Lucas, but as long as Liverpool fans are willing to savage their own players, I’ll be only too happy to join in.

  39. What a save from Don Vito.

    This game was never going to be straight forward.

  40. RVP!!!!

  41. Click Click Click

    Stand up Mr. Van Persie.

  42. First Sagna assist in centuries.

  43. And come on, Fulham – make it 3-2 against Man City.

  44. Fun Gunner.

    Man City should be worried about conceding 2 goals after they were 2 nil up. And Bobby Zamora missed a sitter for Fulham in the first half.

  45. this ref needs to cut back on giving all these free-kicks to Westham a bit. It’s getting ridiculous.

  46. Clear penalty not given from the handball early in the game as well.

  47. anyone got a working stream?

  48. I’m a bit worried about that. He seems a bit too whistle happy against Arsenal :(

  49. SKY commentator must have been reading the Arsenal blogs; calling TV the Verminator!
    All a bit scrappy so far. Lots of work for Diaby and Song today I fancy.

  50. Come on!

  51. That is Diaby’s weakness the mistimed slider. Otherwise he’s done well.

  52. Not passing smoothly so far.

  53. GET IN!

  54. Gallas!!!!!!!

  55. It’s hard to…
    If other teams fail to prevent Arsenal’s passing, there’s no way they’ll make it out alive. That’s why WestHam will do everything they can to break up play and close up spaces.

  56. Let’s have a clean sheet as well. Come you lovely boys in red!

  57. Come on, I meant! :)

  58. Good deal! We are no where near our best and still up by 2, Impressive!

  59. And a draw at Eastlands. Well done, Fulham. Well deserved, I’m sure.

  60. Thank you anurag. That stream doesn’t seem to want to load for me though unfortunately. 5Live will have to do. Well done to all the Gooners at Upton Park, in great voice as usual, loud and clear over the radio.

    COME ON ARSENAL

  61. Vermaelen taking free kicks, now! And why not?

  62. City’s little run of confidence and hype is over, reminds me of Villa last season.

  63. And we’re not even playing at our best. As long as we don’t fall asleep I don’t care but I’d hope we keep fighting until the final whistle.

  64. How the fuck are you supposed to get the ball off Song? He is brilliant.

  65. See that kool play by song? brilliant!

  66. Steww, Ha Ha! my sentiments exactly!

  67. i feel so conflicted….

    The diplomat within me wants the score to stay the way it is to save face for zola, a manager who adopts an admirimble footballing philosophy.

    but there is an undeniable lust for more goals..

  68. maybe one more?

  69. We look good every time we play now. Confidence running through the team to the supporters and back again.

    The World is ours!

  70. Same – no streams working ; but Romford Pele hiding his delight…lovely!!

  71. Honestly, Song’s footwork is Gullit-like. Once he perfects his game-reading, and improves concentration he’ll be as good or better than anyone in the league.

  72. 1 more goal and I reckon Arsene might give Nasri and Ramsey a run. Nicklas should get involved as well.

    It’d be brilliant if we kept a clean sheet. So far the defence has done great job and they’ve been everywhere. TV running down the left and throwing in a cross…and taking free-kicks 0_o What is this world coming to?

    Woe betide our opponents as PHW would say!

  73. Nasri’s English has improved exponentially.. he sounds amped to get back into the squad after his injury, which he admits was the first bone he’s ever broken..

  74. I love the Romford Pele. Boyhood West Ham fan you know, no accounting for taste though I suppose…half a second, that stream just started working. Bless you anurag x

  75. Fungunner…a bit Freudian, there, in your excitement ? Funny…

  76. Sorry, you cant take any prisoners in football! score as many goals as possible and drive fear into other teams.

  77. lol ponyboy and trust you to pick up on that!

    @ DS
    just seen your comment – won’t say anything yet because we have a 2-0 lead and I am superstitious…

  78. quick bets who will score next?

    EBOUE

  79. Get in there Clichy

  80. Tomkins ?

  81. Why won’t he yellow card Song FFS? We need him to miss Wednesday.,

  82. We don’t want the yellow card yet, steww – imagine if he gets a second yellow and then red?

  83. (apologies if that’s a jinx, people)

  84. Faberge to score next

  85. Good point FG. Maybe in the 80th min then Arsene can sub him.

  86. How do you guys rate our play?
    From what I’ve seen its OK but apparently Ray Parlour think’s we’ve been poor?
    Don’t think we’re poor but definitely not at our best.

  87. ring a ding ding

  88. Not poor at all – it is an away performance, the onus is on them to attack us and we are containing them comfortably. We just miss TR7 is all.

  89. OMG…Fab, he nearly made my heart skip a beat.

  90. Great run and shot wasn’t it abid.

  91. Ray Parlour can go f*** himself. We’re leading 2-0, surely we cant be playing poorly. We’re getting the job done, quite calmly as well. They’re all playing as a unit, when defending which is great to see.
    And does Ray Parlous realise the players we have on the bench? They’d walk in to any team in Europe. I hope he brings on Eduardo, and Nasri for a while. Wishful thinking though, wouldn’t risk Nasri.

  92. Super Gael Clichy.

  93. Is Clichy OK? I’m only listening on the ATVO feed.

  94. come on now ateeb. Parlour is looking for a career in commentry and i think he’s just over compensating not to seem biased towards the gunners. Its actualy more of a backhanded compliment actualy. Not at our best but still producing some great stuff and deservedly in front.

  95. This game sounds like a job for Aaron Ramsey.

  96. Damn.

  97. Clichy is fine. crap. They score, from an undeserved free kick.

    Almunia might be smiling, again.

  98. Totally agree Ateeb. Anyone criticises Arsenal can go fuck himself. I’m an Arsenal fan you see.

  99. COME ON ARSENAL

  100. Get up Parker you sack of shit

  101. Ateeb ~ disagree ! Ray is doing his best to…mmmm..yeah..am getting nervous!

  102. oh come on. We were sailing through as well

  103. come on arsenal

  104. How did we get away with that penalty appeal?

  105. Come on, Arsenal!!
    Poor Gael – he’s being assaulted left right and centre.

  106. Lolz. Pb, no need to be worried, Verminator will save us.

    Time for a change, take off Eboue, he’s giving the ball away too much.

  107. oh my god what what what what what what what

  108. come on mannone

  109. Darius,

    We didn’t. The reff made up for his earlier miss.

    FU** FU**!!!!!!!!`

  110. This is ridiculous.

  111. COME ON ARSENAL!

  112. EDUARDOOOOOOO ANYONE?!!?!?! BENDTNER??? NASRRIII??!?!?!!

  113. Big finish lads, c’mon.

  114. ok ive changed my mind parlour can fuck himself. putting his negativity through the airwaves.

  115. Come on Nikky

  116. There you go Ateeb.

  117. fourth game we’re in the process of throwing away. we’d better fight for this one like never before.

  118. AA seems slow today

  119. See ya Scotty!

  120. F*ck off Scott Parker.

  121. COME ON ARSENAL!!!!

  122. abid – dodgy refereeing does not equate to us throwing anything away.

  123. beam him up

  124. The old 4-2-4 ought to do it

  125. I know…but we had the chance to step our of first gear and play with some urgency. we didn’t. the refereeing has been rubbish but this was ours to win.

  126. 4mins. Kamaaaaan

  127. How did that stay out???

  128. Oh I hate Robert Green!

  129. agree abid – not picking a fight just disappointed.

  130. come on arsenal……….anyone show greatness

  131. That Diamanti is a bit of a dick.

  132. yeah I know…so am I :(

  133. not the end of the world….. fair play to west ham

  134. Right…Who’s to blame for this.

  135. fucking hell.
    well, we’ve inspired two under-achieving teams so I guess we’ve done a bit of a service to football and thrown away 4 games.

  136. Ouch! Never a free kick and never a penalty.

    Still, this shit will even out later on.

  137. FOR F*** SAKES. EBOUE WAS HORRIBLE. KEPT GIVING THE BALL AWAY. WHY THE F*** is DIABY STILL PLAYING IN AN ARSENAL SHIRT? 1 GOOD GAME FOLLLOWED BY 3 SHIT GAMES. SONG A CB? DONT’ MAKE ME LAUGH!!!

  138. Love the Arsenal but this is a blasted shame!

  139. the whole team is…and the fucking ref.

  140. Oh, damn damn damn. At least we’re still third.

  141. Duke,

    You know who the culprits are. The usual suspects. Eduardo on the bench and play eboue? F***. Even Benetiz would have gotten that right.

  142. Ourselves. The goddamn ourselves.

    God, sometimes I’m so frustrated with why I support Arsenal. Yes, they have good players, yes, they play marvelous football, and all, but that’s only one thing which pisses me so off, is that they are so bloody complacent.

    Oh, one nil up, two nil up, and they just proceed to COMPLETELY FALL ASLEEP. This is not the first time we’ve seen things like this, and if you see sides like liverpool/United/chelsea, you can really see the fire in every man fighting for the ball.

    Fire? I see crap in the team that just played. Maybe it’s fatigue, I concede, but the way they played at the at was as if they had just completely given up and felt that a draw was good enough.

  143. Emotional…fucking emotional.

    I was laughing at the poor refereeing that saw Man poo lose.

    Even right at the death that was a penalty on RVP.

  144. I dont like to question Wenger but the subs should’ve come on a tad earlier, they didn’t have much time to work with.

    Ref really left his mark on the game. Missed 50/50 penalty for them but made up for it with a soft penalty, then gave Parker a soft second yellow.

    Whatever. Hopefully we’ll wake up in time for Spurs.

  145. deano, dont look at it so easy, remember how we always thought things were gonna turn aroung last season. We are great but we have too many mental lapses.

    the penalty was a farce, thats for sure.

    Come on Arsenal, lets get focused, we have faith that you can do it!

  146. We refuse to capitalize when the teams above us lose points….we totally refuse…I’m so disappointed, that’s bullshit and we can’t blame it on a dump ass ref or bad luck.

    Yes West Ham fought hard, but we let them.

  147. Where are the fucking trolls? Bring them on.

    LOL! What a waste of 2 points. Though I’m glad we didn’t lose, I’m actually pissed off about gifting away a 2 goal lead.

    Like I said earlier on today, this game was never going to be straight forward.

  148. no….this smarts….im gutted….but put it into perspective…..the reffing wasnt great but this was always going to be a tricky AWAY game against a decent side with a good manager who were absoloutley desparate for a posative result. We were great at times but fell a bit short. Not to much damage done…. I can see other” top” teams losing points at upton.

  149. The trolls have regrouped full onslaught ahead.. (still feeling a bit raw)*sigh* bring it on..

  150. Get fucked Bicko.

  151. That’s absolutely right BICKO. F*** I don’t know why im supporting this s*** team. It’s a nightmare. If you’re in, we could start supporting some other team?! A team with fire and shit up there A***.

  152. This is the kind of result that can turn round a season for ill…

    The players looked graven after the equaliser.

  153. I especially enjoyed the fire shown by United earlier today. Spot on.

    You twat.

  154. Sorry, its not about blame, but this a very dissapointing lo, sorry draw. Why do we have so many stupid errors, why? It not enough to say we will work it out”, work it out and stay blasted focused.

  155. The subs were on surprisingly late considering that we were playing just ok. still, there was enough quality on the pitch to run circles around West Ham but they didn’t. 2 goals up and I was worried about them losing focus and sadly, they did.

    I really wish we’d stop doing this. We have the quality to win the league, what’s with the attitude? Why can’t we keep fighting? Fatigue? We’ve had a 4 day break and the first team doesn’t play till next weekend. That’s no excuse. Almost everyone dropped points today, we should’ve been eyeing 1st place after our game on the 31st. Instead, we still trail.

    Sorry, I’m incredibly upset. Gifting a draw to AZ was bad but not dissapointing. However, we don’t seem to be learning from our mistakes. We should’ve learnt from playing United but we didn’t. We didn’t learn from Brum and we didn’t learn from AZ and now we’ve paid the price.

  156. Another goalkeeping error today! We really do need a top class keeper.

  157. Thats it from me. We will still win the PL!!!

  158. Irate Man United fan on the radio, seemingly suddenly to have noticed their lack of strength in depth. Sounds like somebody splashed tobasco sauce in his gusset. Excellent.

  159. better late than never
    wake up arsenal…..

    anyways
    we dropped 8 pts till now
    only 2 above us chelsea n shitty
    n that too not by much…

    nothing is so scary
    win against spurs at home and title is on again

  160. So what if this was the consecutive away game, and the players playing, today, all have had no rest what so ever, because of the injuries to other players. Thats no fu**** excuse. We should have won this. Diaby’s a joke. No fire, as Bicko rightly noted.

  161. Not having watched (only listened), I just wanted to ask, would you say it was more a case of not taking our chances to go further ahead, or more that mistakes were made to lead to their goals?

  162. Gutted…Another game we should have won and in which we were never under pressure. A poor punch by Don Vito for the first and soft penalty for the last. Undefeated…Onwards and upwards. Up to 3rd.

  163. hahah….that fucking yanks on back on 606….the one who thinks that putting accents on when he says players names hides the fact hes american and knows nothing about sooooooccccccccccccccccccccccccccceeeerr

    AS FOR you doomers….put your toys back in your pram…and roll yourself of the cliffs of dover.

  164. I feel sorry for RVP. He was fantastic today.

  165. The whole team and Wenger should be forced by Gazidis to do 100 push ups before training starts tomorrow. Wenger should have brought on the subs while we were 2 nil up to clean up.

    I heard a rumour that English lads don’t dive. FFS, Scottie beam me up and Carlton Cole were drama queens.

    But the truth is we’ve only got ourselves to blame. I sincerely hope this bitch slaps the team into reality.

    We could have been at the top of the table with our game in hand and that’s what really pisses me off. What’s the point of having an advantage and gifting it out.

    Well played Zola. Your boys played to their strengths.

  166. Yes, we cannot blame this on bad luck/referee. The defence has to be sorted out or we’ll lose against better teams. Cole did prove himself to be a handful.

  167. Mistakes again! West Ham created very little! Thought Eboue should have been replaced much earlier! Arshavin wasn’t at his best. Missed Rosicky today to link up the play.

  168. @ LimparAssist

    ha ha ha

  169. Ateeb, we shouldve won the game, no excuses. You know, I am no doomer but this is a joke. Forget that “tired” excuse. 2 UP?

  170. ok Ateeb, I don’t know if you’re being sarcastic or serious. There’s a fine line between being dissapointed and sad because and saying stupid things.

    I’m upset because I know these boys have the potential to be champions. They just need to learn how to focus and control games for 100 minutes. The fact that this game was ours and we threw it away is what gets me. Especially since now Chelsea are going to be incredibly hard to catch.

    There’s a fine line between that and insulting the team. I love our boys and I know they can do it, they just need someone to stoke a fire under thei lapsing arses.

    We can’t afford any more of this crap. I’m not sure why we waited so long for the subs though. Zola acted with urgency but we were trying to cruise through with minimal effort.

    Anyway, if we can channel our anger into next weekends game, this stupidity might compensate.

  171. Jamie Redknapp is a twat. The 2 referee decisions were diabolical, and OG is right, there was a clear push on VP as he came in on goal.

    The 1st decision was absolutely laughable. Is it a foul when you run into a player on the edge of the box without the ball ? The ball spun off both players and then the West Ham player ran into Diaby with his arms outstretched. They both grabbed eachother and the referee gave the foul to West Ham. How on earth was Diaby supposed to react ? Should he have allowed the West Ham player to knock him over ?

    We’ve see all this before, and the clear anti-arsenal bias in the commentary and punditry. Arsenal were below par today, but the result was a scandal.

  172. How many bitch slaps do we need before we wake up, Darius?

    We’ve been bitched slapped for the third consecutive season now, but we refuse to maintain the lead.

    IDIOTS. Mannone punches like a girl, FFS. Bring in a keeper, buy Greeen. Or just trade Green for Fabianski, Almunia and Mannone put together.

  173. Ole? Darius Stone? LimparAssist?

    Do you have an answer for me?

  174. But we had 2 penalties not given today.

  175. Yes, we should have won but this is a game where the other team has a chance -always. We will win the next game.

    We are still comfortably the best team in the division, which all will see at the end of the season.

    Onwards and upwards.

  176. Darius – I agree with that. Wenger should have realised that this current set-up was lacking urgency and should have tried to speed things up a bit. We needed Nicklas much earlier on and we didn’t need Diaby for the last 30 minutes or so.

  177. I meant was it a case of ceding two unlucky goals after not taking our chances, OR that we made mistakes to cede the goals?

  178. abid, why Are Chelsea going to be hard to catch. If we win our game in hand, that would be 2 point behind them, no? They have dropped points this season, they are not great. We are the best team in the PL no doubt!

  179. It was our mistakes Fun, we did not press the game when we were ahead.

  180. Fun gunner – your question 7:26 pm (or 6.26 – Yogi’s time is off)

    I think the whole team has to get a spanking for this one. It’s not fair just to blame the defensive aspects and the mistakes leading to the free kick or penalties. We didn’t take our chances to close the game well enough.

    Even my missus who is a Chav supporter is pissed off with us for gifting Westham the goals.

    It’s not enough also to blame poor refereeing decisions. We should have put the game well beyond the reach of any referee.

  181. Did u see ESPN? They switched back to the studio a little before the game ended and there was this ex-ManU pundit biting his nails off? Wonder what was on his mind?

  182. Chelsea are impossible to catch now. The 2 consecutive defeats, will NEVER happen again. And we’re going to go on in an unbeaten run of a million draws. Why did Eboue play? Why?!!

  183. To all those idiots on here who said when AZ equalised after they had been outplayed dont worry it doesnt matter i hope you are happy now
    It does matter because we are playing teams off the park but not killing them off
    In so many games this team just switches off and we get punished.
    Wenger should have took Eboue and Diaby off much earlier because we neede that 3rd goal to kill West Ham down.TWO POINTS DROPPED
    We can have no excuses today

  184. Thanks for responding, Consolsbob and DS.

  185. Listening to Wenger on Arsenal TV. He’s flummoxed. Can’t explain how we lost.

  186. ateeb calm down…just calm down. These things happen. Would you have put money on wigan beating chelsea? Football is perhaps the most unpredictable sport….and is largley chaotic despite the high level of jargon that goes into analysing it….. We were unlucky and complacent today NOT lacking the cutting edge that plagued us for large periods last season. While this hurts for tonight, I cant help but feel very positive indeed for the future of this squad. Theres quality and desire and despite this disapointment we are 2 points behind.

  187. Relax ffs. We didn’t lose away from home. The team looked fatigued, as they didn’t have FIRE. Not a bad result at all. It’s just the 9th game, still a lot more to go. We’ve been taking out teams the last 2 months, and West Ham, had it coming given that they were bottom of the table. Well played RVP, you’re a star.

  188. The first goal was poor defending, the second was just a bit silly. No excuses for either. The real mistake was not to pursue another goal with a bit more determination. It is not easy to turn attacking play back on.

    Still, we nearly did it, another ten minutes and we would have.

    We move on.

  189. I might feel philosophical about today’s result after a good night’s sleep, but why lie – I’m actually pissed off about losing 2 points when we didn’t need to.

    The only saving grace is that Tottenham are back where they belong and that is beneath us in the table.

    Assuming we can actually win our game in hand, we’re only 2 points behind Chelski and we just have to turn that around when we play them on 29th Nov.

  190. For the 2nd game running we have thrown away a win because we took our foot off the gas.Wenger should read the riot act to them.In the second half we were taking it too easy instead of going for a third goal

    If Carlton Cole is available in the january window we should sign him he is the best forward i have seen play against us this season

  191. Sorry about that Deano. I’ve had these doomer feelings building up for ages now. To go on such a rant, and it seems a draw would be the only way I could let things out. If all goes well, we’ll have Eduardo and Nasri back for next game, and hopefully Rosicky too.

  192. Apart from the Fulham game Manone has made several mistakes that cost us goals. unfortunately Almunia is not that much better, Shea Given at 8 million was a bargain we missed

  193. Ateed

    We looked tired.Are you having a laugh?.We had a 5 day break FFS.
    We dropped 2 pts because we weren’t good enough to finish West Ham off
    Today was not a good result.West Ham are 2nd bottom FFS

  194. Still speaking out of your a*****, Solgooner?

  195. Arshavin was well below par why have a go at Ebuoe he wasnt that bad.
    Cole would be a great addition in January but we know AW wont buy anyone

  196. This squad are very special indeed. A minor set back today but a point from an away game in London is not a problem. We are really only two points behind Chelski. By January we will have pole position and we will win the EPL by a country mile this season. Be patient, there are some decent sides in the Prem this year.

    ….Arsenal….

  197. Ateeb- I know that you are one of the insiders here, but I have to say that I find your posts quite annoying. Sarcasm is best dished out in small portions.

  198. What’s making my head spin is that we played well, and were comfortably on top. If the game was on they still wouldnt have scored from open play by now.

  199. Frank do you think we can win the EPL with the existing squad if Cesc or TV gets injured

  200. Frank,

    I do think the title race will be us and Chelski.

    Just hope our boys learn from these early setbacks.

  201. Paul N – I was speaking relative to how things would’ve been had we won.

    I think that its realistic for Chelsea to drop 6 more points before the end of the season…10 at most. If this is true, it leaves us with a margin of 4 or 8 points which can be risky.

    See, its not the draw that concerns me all that much, its moreso the fact that we seem unable to control games. We’ve gifted away ALL of our losses/draws this season. If we fail to learn, this could be a big headache come November. I doubt Chelsea are the type to do what we did today and against AZ and against Brum and against United with such alarming consistency.

    Of course it’s still early days but if 4 games isn’t enough to learn a lesson, then I don’t know what is.

  202. thats allright we just need to be positive……sometimes i get the feeling that arsenal fans are intelligent but for too cynical. Writing off our own team quicker than jamie redknapp. Does that force the squad to doubt their own ability? They are young and we need to get behind them. There isnt a single player that I would want sold. Diaby did not have a bad game. There are once again calls on 606 for the fabled lord of the rings troll in midfield who cost 30 million.

    Oscar wilde once said a cynic is a man that knows the cost of everything and the value of nothing….

  203. For fuckssakes…it was looking like 3-0, clean sheet, top of the league (psychologically).

  204. Oh Yea Trolls of the land of Arsenal, don’t disappoint the masses.

    Come out and make your case for Wenger to be fired, Don Vito to be thrown to the lions, Gallas and Vermaelen locked up for 3 months at Belmarsh prison for criminally negligent defending, Sagna and Clichy to be sent for execution in Tower bridge because they’re utterly useless, Song, Eboue and Diaby to be deported, Fabregas and Arshavin to be sent to the firing squad, and Van Persie will do well in camp XRay even if Obama wants to close the damn thing down.

    And Usmanov should immediately mount a hostile takeover of Arsenal and spend proper money to get world class players to buy titles.

    LOL! This team is just useless.

  205. abid,

    I’m sure Chelsea will drop 3-4 times that number of points.

  206. Lolz. No worries. Cheslea will be losing 4 key players for the African cup of nations. They will drop points then. It’s us only this season. We will win the EPL with THIS squad.

  207. We will not win the title until we buy a top class keeper.How many goals have we conceded this season that have been done to goalkeeping errors?

    TV and Gallas may be scoring goals at the right end but we are conceding more goals at the other end this season.

  208. @ Consolsbob
    “The first goal was poor defending, the second was just a bit silly. No excuses for either. The real mistake was not to pursue another goal with a bit more determination.

    That’s what it sounded like.

    It is not easy to turn attacking play back on.”
    Shrewd observation.

    I wonder if it was a case of us thinking – now that we are 2-0 up, we must play a bit more conservatively, so as not to throw the game away, but we took it too far, were too conservative and didn’t go for the jugular?

  209. Ateeb, has it right.

  210. Why oh why cant this team kill teams off??

    West ham were crap yet we let them off the hook.Too many off our players didnt come out for the 2nd half.And what was Mannone doing for their first goal? We need a quality keeper in january

  211. I’m not dooming the team or anything, but I just am pissed, as a fan.

    Fatigue and all that is an issue, and injury is also hit, but the point is that we were 2-0 up and we lost it. And this has happened numerous times already, even last season, anyone remember games against Aston Villa and the infamous Birmingham?

    I think it’s just complacency. Maybe it’s the age, but I don’t want to blame that, we have a young, brilliant squad that’s good enough to win, and we don’t need more players. All we need to the team now is just focus, pure mental focus. I saw Wenger’s face at the end, and I would completely sympathise with him.

    My point about the fire to fight on was because I was so pissed at watching the match, and comparing the attitudes of the two teams. One side, were at the bottom half of the table, only one win in their last 8 or so games, and facing a very very strong, technical free-flowing football game. They even went 2-0 down. The other was residing at the top half, on a run, scoring freely and fighting for a premiership championship.

    Yet it was the men that were 2-0 down that had the fire to win, that I wish our team had. This is the learning point we can really take from WHU, they really fought back.

    And if we could emulate that for the season, this season would be ours.

  212. Despite all the gloom (including mine) we’ve actually climbed up the table.

  213. we don’t need to by anyone. this isn’t a question of quality but one of mentality. We have a very young squad but they need to learn fast.

    I hope you’re right OG! I just want them to learn from their mistakes so so badly. come on boys!

    They owe us for todays performance. They;d better make October the 31st the best October 31st there ever has been.

  214. At this stage of the season it is advisable to ignore the points or at least just keep an eye on the table in general terms. Just watch carefully the ability of each squad. One particular sqaud stands out in terms of quality and depth. Going to be close at the top. Except for one team with more quality than the rest….Arsenal….just watch and be patient.

    Btw…you don’t have to give your support. The squad have got used to shit suppport for three seasons now.They don’t need you to win the EPL and ECL, they can do it on their own.

  215. by – buy*
    sorry, I need to go and clear my head a bit.

  216. @Ian 8:03 pm (7:03)

    How come you only turn up when we don’t win? Frigging troll always looking at the negatives. I have sympathy for your kin – always bitching at them for things that don’t turn out exactly how you want.

    It was
    a draw away from home in a London derby. Get over it.

  217. will an arsenal FAN please phone 606.

  218. Exactly, Ole G.
    It’s not the best result, it’s not the result it should have been, but we have made progress. We are third, within striking distance, with a game in hand – like a long distance runner moving up through the pack. It’s early days and there is plenty of time to hit the front.

    Even not playing at our best, and getting used to a new system this season, we have been better than every team we have played against so far.

  219. what about Mannone keeping instead of Almunia? I fancy that this might change for next weekends game. I was surprised to see Mannone on the pitch today actually.

  220. Deano.

    Why would I want to poke my eyes out with needles to phone 606?

    That’s just pissing in the wind – and for what? So that they can stop being idiots.

    PS: Radio stations screen callers and only let through the ones that are controversial enough to give them air capital. An Arsenal fan calling to actually support Arsenal doesn’t do them any good in their rating wars between them and Talk shite. They’ll only let disgruntled stupid so called Arsenal fans, the most fickle and ignorant of the lot to get on air and call for Wenger’s head on a plate and a £40 million over-priced and over-hyped player that we don’t need. That is what creates headlines.

    Arsenal has the best squad in the EPL and the only improvement the team needs is a mental one. I don’t see how calling 606 or Talk Shite for that matter will help in that.

  221. I think maybe it’s time back to Alumnia. To be fair, he’s making the sort of mistakes we berated Alumnia for also.

    I really think the GK spot should be given based on form, and seeing how Mannone’s been recently, even with that brilliant Fulham game, maybe it’s time to see if the old Alumnia’s back.

    To be honest, Mannone looks like he just needs proper experience to play well. A few occasions he scared me because of his decision making.

  222. Spot on Frank. We had Nasri, Eduardo, and Rosicky on the bench today. Not to forget Ramsey. Denilson and Theo should be back in a month. I don’t see any better squad in the league.

  223. Your decision making scares me, Bicko.

  224. ‘we berated Almunia’ – who’s we?

  225. i appreciate what your saying darius. It would just be good to hear some sense getting publcity. The fact is they get alot of listners who are swayed by the tosh that is put on the air.

    Its such a terrible sadness that it isnt widlley enough exepted what arsenal HAVE.

    And I worry that it wont be untill we lose wenger that “fans”, neutrals and world football will realise what a special thing we have at arsenal football club.

  226. We’re going to absolutely annihilate sp*rs on Saturday. I really can’t wait.

  227. Mannone was not at fault for either goal. T

    The ‘mistake’ he made for the first goal was when the beachball that passes for a football these days moved about a foot in the last five yards of it’s flight. It took a very good keeper to get a hand to it at all. It’s easy to say that he should have pushed it away from the goal. if you are looking for reasons to slag him off or play the media’s game.

  228. I think Arsene overdid the dropping Almunia thing. He’s the best keeper we have. Everybody knows that.

    Now he’s in a bit of a bind. If he drops Mannone he’ll shoot his confidence. If he brings back Almunia, Almunia will feel vindicated.

  229. Deano.

    The footballing season is a war and in a war, you need to know which battles to fight.

    Mainstream media have an insurmmountible bias. They own the airwaves and are hell bent on shoving their propaganda down our throats. They’ve been doing this since time immemorial. Think of the media as the last bastion of imperialism.

    Arsenal is no darling of the media, and especially the presenters of every sports show I can think of under the sun. You don’t fight against them on the airwaves they own.

    We have the blogs that they can’t touch. Call it citizen media and that’s what we’ll use. Rest assured researchers and producers of these shows read these blogs.

    Anyone who can’t appreciate what Arsenal has this season is a danger to civilization and not worth confronting on the airwaves.

    Don’t you worry, when we start winning the titles and dominating world football for the next decade, someone will notice.

  230. I agree with you Bob. Mannone did a good job keeping it out. There were three defenders of ours around for the rebound, and unluckily the ball fell to their forward. That’s football. No reason to whine about.

  231. Ateeb

    An ATVO commentator said that the ball hit the heel of Mannone’s hand rather than the palm, which is why it rebounded back into play rather than round the post, as he intended.

  232. So the ball moved. He didn’t execute the save perfectly. I’ve seen horrible keeping as of late. Green gifted us a goal today. Reina was a laughing stock in the CL game. Let’s not even talk about how Cech has been doing this season. Mannone is just 21, he’s doing a good job.

  233. That’s correct Fun. If it hadn’t moved so violently he would have pushed it around the post as he intended.

    Just one of those things. All keepers have had problems with this new ball.

  234. I thought he could actually have caught it. In the old days keepers caught that kind of ball. But maybe it’s the new ball.

  235. OG, Consols and FG

    Do you think that maybe we’re just a bit hard on ourselves? We’re 3rd in the table, a healthy goal difference, a record number of goals, and a game against Bolton at home in hand. Granted, there’s a few concentration issues, but focussing on this aspect is tantamount to chucking stones out of glass houses .

    It could be worse you know, Tottenham could still be above us in the table.

  236. Darius,

    That won’t be happening again, this season. Tottenham above us on the table.

  237. f4phantomphreak

    Gutted to say the least…..what is it with this team when we have a chance to climb onward & upward we find away to screw the pooch…..This Yank calls it footie bra’

  238. The only reason some are criticizing Mannone is that they predicted he would be dropped, and they were wrong. The result today is a ****, but it isn’t Mannone’s fault. I’ve predicted we’ll be top by the end of November, and I see no reason to change that prediction.

  239. How many points are there to a countryside mile?

  240. Phantom,

    That’s B.S. I remember us staying at the top of the table LONGER than any other team 2 seasons ago. Last season we were out early on. And this season has only just begun.

  241. Sometimes it all gets a bit too easy for us & complacency sets in but the ref did his best to engineer a game of it I thought. Maybe Fergie has a point. Ahem.

    Anyway, we don`t want to hit the front too early this season (as complacency sets in) & I like it that we can fly under the radar of the real `big guns`.

    Obviously the loss of a two goal lead will bring further acusations of a soft centre. Just like Man City & Bolton then.

  242. I thought all decisions went against us today we should’ve had a penalty when Upson clearly handled the ball in the first half and their penalty was a dive I haven’t seen the replays yet but it looked like a dive to me. Its not the end of the wolrd if we beat the scum and the game in hand we’ll be 2 points of Chelski. I was in favour of Almunia back in goal today having said that I don’t think it was Manone’s fault the first goal. Second half I thought we took the foot of the gas and that encouraged West ham to have a go.hopefully we’ll do something about these late goals we are conceeding.

  243. Did nobody else see the foul on RVP as he headed in the last minute, the header which Green saved?

    That was a penalty.

  244. @ DS

    OG is saying one thing, Consolsbob and I are saying another.

    ****

    @ Paulie Walnuts
    Agree with much of that. It can be a disadvantage to hit the front too early. It is only the 9th game. We need to stay in touch till Christmas and then take it from there. And as well as there being issues to address, there’s loads more to come from this team. And players to return as well.

    I will be at the Carling Cup match on Wednesday. Very excited already – hoping for a repeat of the scoreline the last time we played them in the CC!

  245. And on that note, I bid you all good night.

  246. night all.

    next week we get to put some spuds on the boil to boost morale.

  247. At least we would never throw away a two goal lead v the the spuds would we?

  248. NOT .UCKING GOOD ENOUGH

    I was not at the match today but at the Globe Pub Marylebone road in London, whether the toilet door is still on its hinges is probably up for dabate.

    If Arsene did not lock those players in for an hour after that match, he should have done because im sorry they let him down badly, that performance against a pathetic West Ham team was dreadful.

    If any Arsenal supporter who thinks we are going to win the league playing like that is deluding themselves, we are a long way off.

    Its no good playing pretty football and committing
    schoolboy errors like that and expect to win honours. its NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.

    Im p….d off with self righteous Arsenal fans on this blog who think everything is rosy in the garden and refuse to say anything against the team and say everything is ok, well i have a message for you it .UCKING WELL ISNT.

    Ive been a supporter of this club for fifty years and have been a season ticket holder for more years than some of you have been alive, so dont let anyone come on and say im negative because if you did and were standing in front of me i would punch your .UCKING LIGHTS OUT !

  249. veteran,

    We’re the best team in the league on current form. No apologies if you dont like me saying that.

    Goodnight!

  250. That’s all very well, Veteran, but you’re not the only tough guy on this blog. We’ve had a marine; we’ve had Duke “Put up your dukes” Goonem, who’s the toughest of the regulars at his local pub; and we’ve had someone else, whose identity escapes me, but who is nevertheless very tough indeed. You shouldn’t take it for granted that these prime specimens of masculinity will let you punch their lights out unopposed.

  251. Wasn’t there a policeman here once? hmm……

  252. Fuck off, veteran.

  253. Veteran on the positive side ABUDHABI CITY had a two nil lead but drew at home, Spurs, and Manu lost so not a bad weekend

  254. “If any Arsenal supporter who thinks we are going to win the league playing like that is deluding themselves, we are a long way off.”

    How about playing like we did before this game in the league? I reckon we’d win, with a big margin.

  255. Arshavin was extremely poor. We could’ve done without him in the second half. Everyone else played well today. Song, Cesc and Diaby in particular.

    The penalty and the foul outside the area were very soft. Nothing the team can do when the referee makes shit calls like that.

  256. Why on earth does anyone care what Money City’s result was?

  257. Anybody would have thought we lost the game today. Dont get me wrong we should have won this game at a canter. But even good teams loose games. Its how they respond to this that counts. Did you see Chelsea at Villa and Wigan…thats schoolboy. The same criticisms are levelled at Arsenal every season. But it doesnt take a genius to see that we are better preparred this season for an assault that will yield a trophy. We are all entitled to believe in this team as much as we can criticise it. We are all entitled to be pissed off but lets get a grip . Drawing beats losing no matter how crap we feel about it.

  258. We should be delighted we took a point off the 2nd worse team in the premiership.A brilliant result

  259. Arsenal

  260. Wenger’s got it spot-on, that ref was pathetic.
    He broke up play and gave fouls in West Hams favour by the dozen. It’s a pity the “best league in the world” is so full of shit refs.

  261. Ray, yes you should, cos a point while not as good as 3 points will always be better than a loss.

    Ask man U, am sure they would have taken a point today had they been offered.

    Thought nasri was supposed to be back, was he?

  262. veteran, i will be happy to stand in front of you and tell you… you are seriously being negative. This is our first draw of the season, better to get it out of the way…. am glad we didnt lose… its a small mercy but reason enough to be glad regardless

    dont be so sure you will get away with punching my lights out though

  263. First, fuck off veteran. People like you who claim to support this team for 100 years always use the same sorry excuse. The length of time supporting this team and your age DOESN’T make you more of a fan that I am. You should know better than we’ve been in far far far worse situation than now.

    A draw with bad calls and you moaners who demoralize the fans’ beliefs and support cried and spit out your dirty words like crazy.

    Goonger4life:

    I agreed with you wholeheartedly.

    It’s how we come back from this shit. We’ve encountered many bad results even in the trophy winning seasons but we came back stronger and kick everyone’s ass.

    Chelsea is nowhere better than us this year. They lost to two sides unexpectedly by playing badly. All we need is some breaks, we’ve been doing without one for a long long long time. (sigh…….)

  264. also, we need to stop playing in white. I personally think the kit is quite attractive as a fashion thing but not for when we play.

    I would’ve preferred the blue…I hate seeing them play in that kit.

  265. i think when it comes to drawing and loosing matches arsene wenger makes the same old excuse and which is we are still young and we will fight back again.and i am very sick of hearing that every fucking time.and i think its time to tell the truth and which is that we are not good enough.but if we have players like denilson,song,eboue, then we will never win a single trophy with them players.and i agree with Solgooner coz if cesc and vermaelen gets injured then we are quietly simply fucked for sure.

  266. your as tool gooner2…..no-one had a bad game today….the best squad in the league….we play the best football in the league…..and are 5 points off the top with a game in hand. Song is a class act. what is wrong with arsenal fans I just dont get it….as a young fan I just cant understand how many stupid unappreciative arsenal fans there are out there. Why dont you try supporting your team? We got a point today away from home in a derby, against a good team that gave everything.

  267. deano

    i ain’t a tool.but i am not as optimistic as you are when it comes to talking about arsenal.but i understand coz your just like the rest in here who think being optimistic always sort the problem out but its just not quietly that way mate.but i am not saying that for you to be like me.but i am saying that we are just two different people with diffferent opinions.

  268. Almunia should start next premiership game. There is no dilemma. If Mannone starts the next game and make another game changing error, it is not going to do his confidence any good either. My opinion is that bringing Almunia back will not be detrimental to Mannone’s development. Rather, he is protected and is now better for the experience with his run of games in the premiership. He can next fight for his starting place in the lesser games with Fabianski, and also for a place on the bench for the premiership games.

  269. luke

    almunia is a phony.and he is not a quality goalkeeper aswel.and when he comes back he will still make his stupid mistakes which usually costs us three points.

  270. No matter. We can only deploy goalkeepers who are with AFC.

  271. I was at the game yeasterday and i cant believe some of the previous comments that it was a good point.Thats just rubbish
    For an hour we played ok not great but West Ham were shocking with only the excellent Carlton Cole playing well.
    But not for the first time we thought we had done enough and switched off and left West Ham back into the game.And once they scored their first you knew we were in big big trouble.West Ham are a very poor team yet we let them off the hook
    The lesson of AZ 67 were not learned at all.
    Hope Nasri plays against Liverpool and then starts v the Spuds instead of that usless lump Diaby who sleep walks through games

  272. Barry.White's bath

    We looked like Spurs yesterday and in the second half we played like them.
    Wenger needs to get it into their heads that football is a 90 minute game and you need to concentrate for the whole game.Too many players are switching off during games.We did the same in Holland last week.This team lacks mental strength

  273. F***ing Westham!!!!

    I have learnt my lesson. Never rejoice too much when another team loses if we still haven.t played!!
    That draw just ruined my week!!DAMN!!!

  274. What the hell was going through Wenger’s head!!the subs should have come on much earlier!!
    Those berating Diaby, he wasnt too bad. the person that dissappointed me the most was Arshavin.

    We miss Rosicky.Is he ok?he didn’t make the bench yesterday. That punch by Manonne was terrible.i could have done better,that’s saying alot since i am not known for strong punches.

    Hope we learn our lesson..i have that sinking feeling in my stomach….it’s like Deja’vou (sp)November wasnt a very good month for us last season.It better not repeat itself!!

  275. The hysteria is amazing.

  276. so many comments today… lets see if we will get to 1,000.

    Are the bridges flooded?

  277. @FL

    Take a deep breath.

    You forget the positives from yesterday.

    1. ManUTDs defense has been proved to be the crap that it really is.
    2. Vidic will miss a game and they will have changed defense/ unsettled/ not consistent.
    3. Spurs lost.
    4. City drew.
    5. We still can get the two points off Chelsea
    6. The media will focus on ManUTD/ Liverpool, and we will continue to do our dirty deeds under the radar
    7. The Clichy is back
    8. We are third, win the game in hand and we are second.
    9. We still are under the radar.
    10. Clichy, Gallas were top class.
    11. Nasri made the bench.

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