The reported £80m bid for Cristiano Ronaldo is probably the least surprising piece of transfer business this summer. Having been elected on a ticket that effectively signalled a return to the era of Los Galacticos, Real Madrid President, Florentino Perez, was never going to be satisfied with just the signing of Kaka. Reports in the the local Valencian press yesterday suggested that Chelsea had bid for David Villa but this was rejected through progress in the player’s move to the Santiago Bernabeu.
Had it been an English club spending these sums, the respective heads of FIFA and UEFA would have been exceptionally quick to have their say about levels of debt. As it is, Blatter and Platini’s silences have been resounding. Madrid will argue that they are doing no different to Liverpool, Chelsea or Manchester United, simply that they are spending all of their money in one go. They have borrowed heavily to invest yet there will be little or no attempt by the game’s governing bodies to tar the club with the same brush as their English counterparts. Quite simply, both men know that Real and indeed the RFEF do not care what anyone thinks; they are going to do what they want anyway.
Perez knows from previous experience how long it will take them to recoup the money. Sales of replica kits and such like brings in significantly more revenue than the capital outlay of purchasing the players. That is before the lucrative friendlies that will take place. Little doubt either that Adidas has funded some of the Ronaldo deal; the opportunity to poke Nike in the eye with an exceptionally sharp stick would be simply too good to refuse.
The whole system of transfers will though come under close scrutiny. It is illogical to say that neither Kaka or Ronaldo are worth their fees when the combined revenues will easily outstrip the original cost. In those circumstances, they are worth more. Add into that mix any trophies and it is not difficult to see how the transfer fee is easily justifiable.
In both cases though, money is being concentrated in the upper echelons of the game. Little of the money earned by AC Milan or Manchester United will filter down in big chunks to teams much lower down the footballing scale. They will replace their big name stars with those whose stature is already in the ascendency. No doubt either that both clubs will use some of it to reduce, or at least service, their existing debt. Although a trickle will follow a path to the bottom, out of the original sums this will be not insignificant but not vast either. Both teams will seek to buy from other Champions League teams but eventually the odd million or two will go lower.
It is the perfect opportunity for FIFA or UEFA to step in, if the situation irks them enough. Formulaic transfers exist already when younger players are the object. It is not too much effort to extend that across all transfers. In a time of recession, such a move could prove beneficial since the creation of administrative jobs would ease the unemployment burden across the footballing world. However, neither body will do anything because, certainly in the case of the latter, the clubs hold too much power.
For Arsenal, there are several issues that may affect them. The ability to purchase in the transfer market is however not one of them. Rarely do United and Arsenal cross paths when buying players. Also, Wenger has stated that his targets are more defensively orientated than Ronaldo. The first concern will be that instead of being a team of individuals, United may actually transform into more of a team without relying on Ronaldo to get them out of trouble in front of goal.
Rumours of course are circulating that there is unrest at Old Trafford with Tevez reportedly looking to move having been, in his own mind at least, disrespected. Rather curiously, Sporting Lisbon appear to have been given some encouragement in their attempt to regain the registration of Nani, either by loan or player(s) exchange and cash. No doubt most of this is media talk but welcome to our world Manchester United fans.
The bigger concern for Arsenal fans already used to endless summers of media speculation, is that some of it may come true. Rather like a child in a sweet shop, Milan may wave the much reported £25m – £30m cheque in front of Arsenal’s face for the services of Adebayor. It is not something that is beyond the realms of belief and personally, I would not advocate losing the Togolese striker. That said, it would be good business, financially, and as a supporter, you have to trust that the club would not do such business without having lined up a suitable replacement first. Little doubt that there will be cries for Benzema or Villa but they are earmarked for others in reporting terms.
Prior to the Ronaldo deal being announced, Cesc Fabregas was interviewed by ATVO. He committed his future to the club and there is no reason to doubt the veracity of his words. Tellingly, he observed:
What you cannot stop is what people say about you. The press can write or say whatever they want.
The greater concern will be that this high profile flurry will goad Barcelona into making a bid for him. As Ronaldo has proven, every player has a price and there will doubtless be a welter of opinion in the Catalan press that Barcelona should react positively with a statement of intent that they are not going to surrender the trophies that they have won this season lightly. For Arsenal, such a bid would be doubly unwelcome on the basis that (a) Fabregas is a world class player and lynchpin of the side but also (b) his sale may send the wrong signal to other players in the squad, particularly van Persie who has yet to extend his contract.
Of course, there is an argument that in Arshavin, Nasri and possibly Rosicky, the club has players who could replace from within. The latter would perhaps be the most ‘like for like’ but with his fitness still clouded by well-founded concerns, reliance would fall on the former duo. Of course, all players are different and bring their own attributes to the game but having suspected it would be a long and dull summer before recent events, it may well be that exactly but with a twist or two down the line.
’til Tomorrow.























1st…oh, er, ummm and of course, having logged on I have found that Platini has now called the fee excessive and detrimental to fair play. I could alter the post but WTF.
YW
By: Yogi's Warrior on June 12, 2009
at 12:14 am
2nd?
I just hope El Miraculo goes to a league that gets no coverage here in the states so I don’t have to look at his smirking twat face anymore. Damn his fine skills.
By: Jack Scurvy on June 12, 2009
at 12:25 am
3rd
By: Gunner4Ever on June 12, 2009
at 12:26 am
its good for Arsenal…no CR7 in the league…
By: bookmakers on June 12, 2009
at 12:32 am
There is no doubt that ManU will splash some of the money from Ronaldo sales on some big name signings – but like you said YW, it is unlikely he will be interested in Arsenal targets. With the possibility of Tevez also leaving this summer, whovever will be the replacement for Ronaldo, ManU will take some time to gel and get their player dynamics together.
On the other hand, I dont see anyone leaving Arsenal this summer, not even Ade or Gallas. If we make no other sigings other than the rumoured TV, we would still be a much stronger team with the full year services of Arshavin, Eduardo and (hopefully) Rosicky.
The furture is bright, the future is Arsenal!
By: daokta on June 12, 2009
at 12:40 am
I hope Real Madrid fail miserably..even though I like Kaka….I dont rate Ronaldo as highly as the british media make him out to be…in fact neither Kaka nor Ronaldo are as good as Ronaldinho or Ronaldo de Lima in their prime..and Messi will be better then Ronaldo and Kaka as well…
anyway back to my main point, its a disgrace how Real as a club behave so I hope this second Galactico era fails miserably..its times like these I wish European football had stuff like salary caps/spending limits like the NBA…in the NBA the teams dominate in cycles..in European football all the top teams stay at the top, from year to year some smaller teams can step up but they cant maintain because clubs like Manu and Real just buy all their players…Arsenal do it too but at a younger age..so there is no guarantee that the player will become great.
Money should not be the sole factor which determines success in competitive sports.
By: Ja_Gunner on June 12, 2009
at 12:41 am
The biggest problem for us is that the mancs have managed to make a tidy profit, most of which they will spend to build a team around Rooney. Whoever they buy (including if they buy two players) will not only cost less than the transfer fee they get, but will also have a lower wage than Ronaldo.
I am pretty sure Cesc will not go unless the club is in dire straits.
The really strange one this morning is that Steve McMahon is looking to buy Newcastle. The Guardian reports that “The Profitable Group” which has Steve on the board, is looking to buy out Ashley.
By: PDT on June 12, 2009
at 12:51 am
ManU fans are the biggest hypocrites i have seen lately. They fail to admit that CR7 has basically carried them to most of their trophies in the past three season. Maybe they are still in denial or maybe they are just absolute morons now that they are shouting at the rooftops – Good riddance CR. Admittedly i am not a fan of the man but I never doubted his footballing skills. That said, all I can wish for ManU is a washdown the drains into the Abysses of the North Seas.
As for Arsenal, I dont think the CR transfer will have adverse effects in the transfer window. possibly a positive effect when the season begins.
By: Nemesis on June 12, 2009
at 12:54 am
We can only hope that Perez’s Night Vision doenst fall on Cesc any time soon, because that SOB gets what he wamts
By: Nemesis on June 12, 2009
at 1:00 am
Yogi keeps asserting that Real will recoup the money but its very dubious that they will. RMs commercial contracts might blow up but it wont double.
Kaka and Ronaldo will cost Real Madrid something like £250M over 6 years in transfer fees and salaries.
By: Myles Palmer is the Moron King on June 12, 2009
at 1:01 am
MPITMK,
The Ronaldo salary inparticular is just unbelievable. He could buy Medeira for what his getting, let alone the tin shack he grew up in.
By: Muppet on June 12, 2009
at 1:08 am
MPitMK
I agree. At a time when unemployment in Spain and rest of Europe are at an all time high, you need to sell an astronomical amount of shirts to recoup Kaka’s cost, let alone Ronaldo’s.
What I am interested to know is who the f*** is financing all this for RM?
By: daokta on June 12, 2009
at 1:09 am
Ronaldo and Kaka have to by their contribution, (in addition to all other sources) generate something in the region of £50M a year for Real Madrid.
We’ll know this next year. If Real Madrid’s revenues don’t jump up by more than £50M, these deals would have been a dud.
By: Myles Palmer is the Moron King on June 12, 2009
at 1:13 am
daokta,
It is a combination of a supporters trust, the government and the banks.
I extracted the following from the times online:
>>
According to the club, Beckham boosted its merchandise profits by 137 per cent during his four-year stay, especially in Asia where fans’ loyalty is driven more by the players than the teams they represent.
“To a fan in China or South America, Ronaldo is very big,” Tim Crow, director of Synergy Sponsor- ship, said.
Real Madrid, which is effectively a non-profit trust owned by its 80,000 members, has a good record in selling its brand around the world. About a third of its ¤400 million (£343 million) annual income comes from marketing and merchandising — a greater proportion than any other club. It also benefits from a lucrative television contract that guarantees it at least ¤150 million a season until 2012-13 and support from the banks and the Government.
Reports in Spain said that Banco Santander, owner of Abbey, had granted Real a ¤70 million credit line to facilitate the Ronaldo transfer, which will be paid in £20 million instalments over four years.
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By: Muppet on June 12, 2009
at 1:15 am
Yogi I absolutely agree regarding the Platini issue but his statement of discontent about the tranfer is not real he just has to say something so that he doesn’t look like a hypocrite. Real Madrid have done this for years and have no dignity when it comes to transfers buying trophies is what they are good at. From an Arsenal point of view I’m happy to see the back of Ronaldo. despite his pethatic theatrics he saved united skin on many occasions with his free kicks.
By: 1loose cannon on June 12, 2009
at 1:20 am
Thanks Muppet, did not know that.
Banco Santander has been put definitely on my “dont touch with a barge pole” list
By: daokta on June 12, 2009
at 1:20 am
Ronaldo deal-good or bad for arsenal?What does it matter we’re not going to win anything again untill the board and wenger change there policy’s
By: BOY BETTER KNOW on June 12, 2009
at 1:25 am
daokta,
The name of the bank? I hear they get a lot of money from Santander.
Contrary to the widespread myth that Beckham made RM some £100M per season, RMs turnover only increased about £100M in the 4 years Beckham was there. It was the time they also bought a lot of other stars.
We’ll know if it worked soon enough.
By: Myles Palmer is the Moron King on June 12, 2009
at 1:30 am
MPitMK – I, like you, am not convinced about R/M’s business plan but I don’t know enough. But YW is right in one major respect, this is just a system that concentrates footballing money in a very few hands. Can you imagine the crisis in Scottish football that the implosion of Setanta will cause because the big money stops at the Premiership and to only a few clubs at that.
By: shotta-gunna on June 12, 2009
at 1:30 am
Surely they’ll get Ribery in now. That scares me.
By: lewdog on June 12, 2009
at 1:33 am
This is Business and therefore you have to earn you quid….
By: Nemesis on June 12, 2009
at 1:34 am
SG,
I think the European Super League might just be staging a comeback.
By: Myles Palmer is the Moron King on June 12, 2009
at 1:41 am
Ronaldo sale: Predictably the media and the Fergie sycophants are making lemonade out of lemons. It was good business , the team was not dynamic enough, there are two or three players out there for less then $80 million, blah, blah. It is much too early to come to any conclusions about the role of ManU’s creditors in all this. If they are buying Valencia vs Ribery then it will be pretty obvious.
By: shotta-gunna on June 12, 2009
at 1:59 am
I believe they are literally bank rolled
The sale of Ronaldo will just unleash rooney’s full potential, now to try and keep hold of tevez…….
By: bisovi on June 12, 2009
at 2:07 am
BOY BETTER KNOW, and what should the board and Wenger do that would make you a happy bunny?
By: Steve on June 12, 2009
at 2:16 am
P.S. bit of a wierd name you got there.
By: Steve on June 12, 2009
at 2:17 am
By: BOY BETTER KNOW on June 12, 2009
at 2:58 am
Don’t give up the day job.
By: Steve on June 12, 2009
at 3:17 am
now back to the qustion.
and what should the board and Wenger do that would make you a happy bunny?
By: Steve on June 12, 2009
at 3:19 am
Yogi don’t change. What you need to understand about Platini is that even a broken clock tells the right time twice a day.
By: Joel Cairo on June 12, 2009
at 4:14 am
There is no good or bad situation concerning Ronaldo’s departure from MU. It just did not matter because MU is not a one man team. Are we saying that as long as Ronaldo is in MU then Arsenal will NEVER beat them or have to be afraid of MU. That’s utter RUBBISH ! MU will just evolve which I hope Arsenal will also do that. I like the period when the ‘Invincibles’ were playing and their style was just like the Holland national team as well as Ajax. Long accurate passes and deadly attacks. If Arsenal is to play like that again then they should have another two Dutch players from Ajax.
By: Eddie Yak on June 12, 2009
at 4:49 am
Steve,
If you look up Boy Better Know’s stellar contributions on LG you would know not to expect a rational argument to justify his views. He exists to make grandiose statements without backing them up. A bit like Jamie Redknapp.
By: Alex on June 12, 2009
at 6:00 am
Eddie Yak,
If you look up the stats for the last two seasons, atleast in the premier league Man U had become the closest to a one man team than any of the Top 4 teams. Just fish out the margin of difference between the leading goalscorer in the league for Man U (Ronaldo) and the runner up and you would see clear daylight between the two.
Further, Ajax is not what it used to be. The best dutch players ply their trade elsewhere as you know.
By: Alex on June 12, 2009
at 6:05 am
While it would appear to be good to have that free-scoring winger out of the EPL; less of a defense terror, at the same time, it should be noted that this means that United have 80m to spend, excluding how much they had already devoted to transfers prior to the sale. So basically, they can buy anyone.
At the same time, because everyone knows at least how much they can spend, it will inflate the market, at least for United targets. So I guess it has good and bad connotations, good for short term, bad for long term.
By: Josh on June 12, 2009
at 7:18 am
Josh,
People forget that Ronaldo was a winger and only occasional centre forward for United. They can not replace Ronaldo with a centre forward because Nani is not ready to replace him on the wing. They will need to buy a winger AND a centre forward ideally.
About replacements – do you think Ribery will come in for United and slot in 25 goals in his first season from the wing? Benzema is 21 and has never played outside the now comparitively weaker French league. Will he replace his goal scoring? David Villa possibly can bang in the goals but a winger would still be required. 80 million may not be an awfull mount of money in today’s market for 2-3 top players. Thats how inflated the transfer market seems to have become.
By: Alex on June 12, 2009
at 7:27 am
message from le grove
Frank from ACLF ! why do you use an alias and come on here and bash us ?
i called you lot nazi’s a year or 2 ago , and was banned for it ..
yet i think youve proven me correct ..
look up the term nazi … then study your statement of …
‘Why don’t you start moderating the people on your site who frequently attack the board, the manager and the players’
but what your really saying is you should just blindly follow your leader like sheep into battle even if the battle cannot be won ! you shouldnt question the board and there non – spending ways .. your a total lunatic…
and thats what you people at ACLF dont understand , you huddle together like a bunch of collective sheep , like a cult following who feel you should be there to support only and not question the fact we have won nothing and showed no incentive to win anything in the past 4/5 years ..
sorry football is about RESULTS !!
especially at the prices AFC charge the fan .
people want value for money , and you feel robbed when you goto a game and dont get value for money , thats why pedro and geoff remind you to turn up at the game , to feel the bitterness of being fucking jerked off by these guys in power at AFC week in week out…
then listen to the excuses used to back up there continued unquestionable support for the club ..
if your buying it then your pretty naive ..
and youve read yogi’s posts too much … your actually believing them !
nice name frank by the way , im sure you just call yourself ade on here to get the desired results on here …
just some quick notes that all you guys banned me for over there ?
question 1
did we win anything ?? i dont know ? did we ?
question 2
did TH14 leave ?
question 3 ?
did flamini leave with diarra and leave us with a hole in the DM area ???? because le boss screwed the pooch in negotiating ?
question 4
has ade been successful ?
hmmm it seems every ,and i mean EVERY thing i said on your cocked up site was true and correct and you muppets condemned ‘ the oracle’4 it /
i dont read your BS site anymore & i suggest if it hurts your fragile mind this much,then in future ..
do the fucking same retard …
free speech should never be oppressed .
you are a nazi …
By: frank is a nazi on June 12, 2009
at 7:28 am
Gott im Himmel ! Heil Frank !!
By: Muppet on June 12, 2009
at 7:41 am
FIAN,
If you could string together even two sentences together in a logical manner, one would have taken the trouble of reading your tripe.
By: Alex on June 12, 2009
at 7:44 am
Couldn’t be happier to see “CR7″ leave England. It’s less about him being Manc Scum, and more about him having no sportsmanship whatsoever. Good riddance.
Now, what matters is that Cesc is staying with us. Talisman, role-model, dignified sportsman, Arsenal captain… We’ve got Cesc, we’ve got Cesc, we’ve got Cesc!
By: Blackstock on June 12, 2009
at 7:50 am
Herr Muppet, FIAN to face das firing squad at dawn.
By: Alex on June 12, 2009
at 7:50 am
Your suggestion that placing some form of regulation around transfers will help to ease the unemployment burden is very funny. I assume this was meant as a joke? How many jobs will this create? And what good would it do to further bureaucratise an already overblown, corrupt and anachronistic organisation like FIFA/UEFA?
Over the last 12 years we seem to have silently moved into a world where the answer to everything is regulation. This just encourages rule gaming – playing rules/regulations to their limits.
By: clockendgooner on June 12, 2009
at 7:58 am
Alex go easy on him mate, it’s not easy to structure sentences together whilst smoking crack.
By: Blackstock on June 12, 2009
at 7:59 am
With Real Mddrid upsetting Chelski’s plan to acquire the services of Kaka and now possibly David Villa, the chavs will have to draw up an entirely new list of transfer targets. They will then face competition from United to sign the revised list.
There are very few world class players in world football and we are very well placed in that department with Cesc, Arshavin, RvP, Ade, Sagna, Gallas, Clichy and Rosicky already in that list and in the future Nasri, Denilson, Gibbs and others joining that list. Its going to be war for scarce footballing talent in the coming years and we are fortunate to be well stocked.
By: Alex on June 12, 2009
at 8:01 am
Lol Blackstock.
By: Alex on June 12, 2009
at 8:04 am
who cares even if ronaldo dies!!!even if sucking ronaldo would have been i am confident that would have won all the tropies the coming season.arsenal just need 2 concentrate on their defence and that’s all what arsenal need 2 continue being the BIGGEST CLUB IN THE WORLD [PROUD 2 B A GUNNER]LUV NASRI
By: AMAL A GUNNER on June 12, 2009
at 8:13 am
RONALDO IS A F***KING CREATURE ON THE EARTH.RONALDO IS A BLOODY ASS HOLE
By: TRUTH on June 12, 2009
at 8:16 am
I suppose to answer your question Yogi, my guess would be it has to be good for Arsenal when their main rival in the premiership loses its most potent playing asset at the peak of his powers.
Replacements are an unknown quantity. I remember when they bought some South American genius or other after C*ntona left. He was supposed to terrify us but was a flop. They could spend the sum received on 4 players and none might succeed at all. No – it is almost certainly good news for us.
Anyway I’m off to polish Frank’s jackboots.
By: steww on June 12, 2009
at 8:30 am
BOY BETTER KNOW!
we need some more girls in here, theres too many man too many many man. BIG TUNE!
happy to see the back of Ronaldo, its undeniable that losing th ebest player in the world will have a huge negative affect on MANURE. Which can only be seen as a positive for us. Is it possible that we now have the best attacking midfielder in the league in AA. what a boost that would be to our squad. im excited for the season ahead.
By: issy on June 12, 2009
at 8:40 am
renaldi, (ronaldo’s second cousin twice removed) has signed for us. He is 10 times better that ronaldo. Only 16 yrs old.
By: BentleyThe FlyingSpur on June 12, 2009
at 8:58 am
FIAN,
“question 1
did we win anything ?? i dont know ? did we ?
Answer1. Did we? you tell us?
question 2: Did Th14 leave
Answer2: I think so
question 3 ?
did flamini leave with diarra and leave us with a hole in the DM area ???? because le boss screwed the pooch in negotiating ?
question 4
ANs. Yup they left. Didn’t leave any holes. We got two DMs right now.
has ade been successful ?
Yup. around 45 goals in 2 season is successful.
Get back to your medicine.
By: Ateeb on June 12, 2009
at 8:59 am
Ateeb,
Who are these guys and who let them out ?
By: Muppet on June 12, 2009
at 9:01 am
When selling Ronaldo they can buy 3 of 4 great players but they can only put 1 on the pitch!
By: ps7 on June 12, 2009
at 9:12 am
When he said “I don’t read your BS” I think he was lying.
By: Queen of Suburbia on June 12, 2009
at 9:18 am
United needed to sell because they have some problems to adress.
1. Hargreaves – massive injury problems
2. Tevez – No longer a United player, city bound possibly but even if they spend the 25m on him, it doesn’t strengthen them.
3. Vidic – maybe Spain bound.
4. Midfield creativity – lots of high energy indentikit players in the mould of Fletcher, Park, etc, noreal worldclass quality in there.
5. Berbatov – struggled to settle.
Injuries to Rooney and Ferdinand would really cost them next season imo….
By: Queen of Suburbia on June 12, 2009
at 9:25 am
any talk of arsenal today, maybe i should join a man u site, i dont care about man u or who they sell. if we get a good offer for ade then i say grab it with both hands and buy where we need to. the bookies dont think we will strengthen according to the telly. the odds they give for the prem is 8-1 i think, and we dont get a mention in champions leauge. never the less the season cant come quick enough for me, i think we have a lot to look forward to next season.
By: boomer on June 12, 2009
at 9:32 am
I agree with QoS.
Uniteds problems are bigger than just the Ronaldo departure.
Although they will sell, they will certainly buy. With £80 million already available, on top of funds that will be available anyway, there will be a spending spree. Don’t be surprised if they spend up to £150 million.
Ribery, Benzema, Villa, Aguero etc etc etc
We just need some defensive cover and we should be ok.
By: Muppet on June 12, 2009
at 9:36 am
boomer,
I think the man u talk is relevant, because a lot of people think that with the absence of Ronaldo, the premiership is for the taking.
By: Muppet on June 12, 2009
at 9:37 am
boomer,
If a team like us who have reached a final, quarter final and a semi final of the champs league in the last 4 years is not getting a mention in the odds for the CL then there is some problem with the bookie you saw.
In any case who cares they are behind the curve when it comes to us.
By: Alex on June 12, 2009
at 9:38 am
Its relevant boomer – if United are weaker than that makes us stronger.
With Liverpool unlikely to strengthen massively then our main rivals could be an aging Chelsea side who as yet seem to be struggling to attract the top top players (although that may change).
8-1 sounds worth a punt, assuming we address the centre backs strength in depth issue, with Rosicky and Eduardo back and firing, then i fancy us for a league and cup double.
By: Queen of Suburbia on June 12, 2009
at 9:39 am
Good comment QOS….the worm is turning.
By: London on June 12, 2009
at 9:46 am
good or bad more like abit of a laugh.manchester united myth buster..manchester united are not a selling club how many times has that been said by ferguson..ronaldo dont like him but best player in the world fact.Arsenal still yet to fill gaps from last year AA23 was a step in the right direction but bought as a replacement for rocksicknote.defense needs some work.manchetser united will be weaker as an attacking unit but still remain with a strong defense unit.however thank you to the glazer family overcommitted financialy and oover here thank you very much for credit crunch football or is it fire sale football?
By: ooogooner on June 12, 2009
at 9:47 am
Personally i’m not sure if we should really talk about Man U being “weaker” yet until some football has been played.
I remember having similar discussions on the other side of things when Henry left. Sp*ds supporters trying to tell me there was “absolutely no way” that the departure of Henry couldn’t be detrimental to Arsenal as he was our best player and top scorer. As we all know it wasn’t really detrimental at all. The departure of Ruud van Horseface also made Man U stronger. Of course it doesn’t guarantee that the same thing will happen with Ronaldo, but i’m not one to jump the gun so let’s wait and see what happens.
By: Blackstock on June 12, 2009
at 9:58 am
Where do you get off coming on an Arsenal supporters site and using unpleasant names for our own players? How about sympathy and support for someone with unfortunate injury problems and save the slagging off for the opposition? Just a thought.
By: steww on June 12, 2009
at 9:59 am
Blackstock
I agree, they have many talented players like we had, it could in fact make them a better unit. Watching Ronaldo against Barca in the final is reminiscent of Thierry Henry’s last year with us.
Ronaldo got to big for his boots, same as Henry did. Both amazing players, but it can happen to anyone when you reach them heights. Theres no “I” in team… its why i love Arsenal more than anything. Kaka and Ronaldo’s arrival at Madrid will create more jealousy and tensions in the dressing room. Too many personalities, too much ego, and too much money floating around. They will crumble.
By: ChrisGoona on June 12, 2009
at 10:04 am
I take your point Blackstock – my point perhaps should be that United were never as far ahead of us as some would have us believe and that losing their top scorer and possibly others is at best going to mean that they have to bed new players in to their side.
By: Queen of Suburbia on June 12, 2009
at 10:06 am
Or even more succintly – We should lose our inferiority complex where United are concerned.
By: Queen of Suburbia on June 12, 2009
at 10:07 am
End of the day the best team wins. I cannot see Kaka, Ronaldo, Schneider, Villa, Raul.. etc all getting along and forming an amazing unit. Real Madrid’s previous galacticos had big names, but never dominated. Barca on the other hand also suffered last year, the arrival of Henry, trying to fit Ronaldaniho, Messi, Etoo etc all in 1 team… Its like playing Fifa without taking into consideration the mental aspects of the team.
By: ChrisGoona on June 12, 2009
at 10:09 am
steww,
Don’t you know that Rosicky got a pair of pliers and detached his knee fibres from his own bone.
By: Myles Palmer is the Moron King on June 12, 2009
at 10:09 am
Queen of Suburbia
“inferiority complex” that was exactly the problem when we played them this season..
Next season is Arsenal’s season, the prospect of watching AA, RvP, Cesc, Eduardo, Walcott, Rosicky, Nasri, CLichy etc etc is much more appealing than watching Real Madrid’s circus show.
By: ChrisGoona on June 12, 2009
at 10:12 am
True Chris – I bet we play better football too.
By: Queen of Suburbia on June 12, 2009
at 10:14 am
Ferguson has made a shrewd move for once. The lesser Ronaldo has always been overrated, and he is now past his best, but united have sold for the price of a player in his prime.
By: Poliziano on June 12, 2009
at 10:25 am
I have to laugh at the optimism of some people. It doesn’t matter how much a player costs, because the money can always be recouped through shirt sales. It doesn’t matter how much a club spends, because the owners have a business plan that will ensure they make a profit in the long run. All around us, businesses with far better management than any football club are going bankrupt, but by some miracle football clubs are immune to the effects of fortune and incompetence.
By: Poliziano on June 12, 2009
at 10:30 am
QoS, not just us but hopefully lots of the other PL teams will lose the inferiority complex when playing Man U. But we’re a growing side anyway, not dependant on the actions of Man U. Regardless of what Man U do I think as a team we’ll be a lot more confident and sure of ourselves on the pitch next season.
Kaka and Ronaldo’s arrival at Madrid will create more jealousy and tensions in the dressing room. Too many personalities, too much ego, and too much money floating around. They will crumble.
Yep Chris, I look forward to seeing Ronaldo throw his water bottle into the crowd with frustration as he is subbed to the bench for another 50m superstar.
Also, Rooney will probably step up his game a lot in Ronaldo’s absence, but Berbatov is still a lightweight as far as i’m concerned. If Tevez and Vidic end up leaving then I reckon that’ll have much more serious consequences for them than Ronaldo.
By: Blackstock on June 12, 2009
at 10:34 am
MPISTMK @ some ungodly hour
I am not sure why you are sceptical about Madrid making an additional £50-£60m a year on the back of the Kaka / Ronaldo deals. Given Beckham did half of that when he was there, it is not beyond the realms of believability that Kaka and Ronaldo will do that.
If they add someone like Villa, their marketing department will be having wet dreams as that tops off the domestic, Portuguese and Brazilian markets before they even start thinking about the rest of Europe, South America and Asia.
The money won’t all come from shirt sales. They will hike their fees for friendlies on the basis of one of their new signings being involved; all three will be top dollar for someone to pay, rather like Brazil used to.
The outlay of a quarter of a billion pounds is vast. The income will probably match that over the course of the contracts.
YW
By: Yogi's Warrior on June 12, 2009
at 10:51 am
Where is Frank?
Frank, you can come of the bunker now, we all worship you and will follow you regardless…….
By: Big Johan on June 12, 2009
at 11:10 am
YW
no doubt about it, i think they will get back alot more through shirt sales and merchandise in various countries.. never mind their tours to america, asia etc… they have a plan in place to recoup and make more on top of their outlay that is for sure.
By: ChrisGoona on June 12, 2009
at 11:13 am
Poliziano, Thats because no other businss has clientele that would die for them
By: Jakesy on June 12, 2009
at 11:13 am
what happened to Frank???
By: ChrisGoona on June 12, 2009
at 11:14 am
“Real Madrid’s previous galacticos had big names, but never dominated.”
Two league titles and two European Cups is pretty good. That was until they signed Beckham, who was by far the weakest of the galacticos.
As for squad cohesion, Robben and Sneijder are notorious divas (robben’s a notorious diver as well!), but it looks like they’re off to Bayern this Summer, so that should improve dressing room harmony. Van Gaal might be in for horseface as well.
That just leaves a pair of prize cocks, Raúl and Guti, but surely they have to accept that their best days are over now.
It might turn out to be inefficient and clunky, but any team with Kaká, Villa, Ronaldo and god knows who else, just has to be challenging for the big honours. Also, Pellegrini is a bloody good coach – the best they’ve had since Capello – and he likes to play attractive passing football.
Man, I can’t wait for the derbies next season!
By: OneOfUs on June 12, 2009
at 11:15 am
Check out the 7-28 post from Frank is a Nazi……
By: Big Johan on June 12, 2009
at 11:16 am
That’s Cronaldo btw. There’s only one Ronaldo!
By: OneOfUs on June 12, 2009
at 11:17 am
BJ
My sensitive feelings have been hurt
YW
By: Yogi's Warrior on June 12, 2009
at 11:18 am
OOS
Reports suggest that Guti is on his way this summer. For a while it seemed that he was destined for good things but that never happened. Can’t see him turning up anywhere other than an MOR EPL or La Liga team.
YW
By: Yogi's Warrior on June 12, 2009
at 11:20 am
YW,
How much did Beckham make Madrid?
By: Myles Palmer is the Moron King on June 12, 2009
at 11:24 am
MPITMK
According to some figures I read as I trawled this lonely web a while back, their marketing and merchandise revenues rose by approx £30m per season whilst he was there. Now that depends on the FX rate as to how much it genuinely was.
YW
By: Yogi's Warrior on June 12, 2009
at 11:27 am
One player in the RM squad who seemed very good for his age is Gonzalo Higuain. Young, fast, good close control, good in the air and very good shooting ability. Hope they dont sell him to an EPL club.
By: Alex on June 12, 2009
at 11:27 am
OneOfUs
“Two league titles and two European Cups is pretty good.”
I dont think all the members of the galacticos have 2 league titles and 2 champions league medals to boast. They were amazing players and i enjoyed watching them play i have to admit – was just intrigued to see how they performed togeteher.
Truth is big name signings can be very effective at times, but getting a team of good players to play as a unit is a hell of a lot more though.
By: ChrisGoona on June 12, 2009
at 11:34 am
Guti’s always been quite low-key, hasn’t he. I thought he’d be one of those guys that finishes his career at the club. As a person, he seems like a guy that would never live more than a few minutes from his Mum’s house, so that leaves Atletico and Getafe!
There must be some great deals going on. Mahamadou Diarra, who was injured for the whole of last season, has truly been usurped by the other Diarra – the tosser.
Lass, I think they call him, just got voted the player that the fans most wanted to keep for next season.
MD is some player, though, and he’ll surely be on his way. It would be a classic Wenger signing, a bit like what we did with Overmars, except I think we’re covered at DM, and there’s ACN to consider as well.
Van der Vaart’s another one. And Royston Drenthe is still young and could turn out to be a great player.
By: OneOfUs on June 12, 2009
at 11:34 am
so “Frank is a Nazi” scared Frank off the blogg
Frank is a Nazi – what is your usual name ??
By: ChrisGoona on June 12, 2009
at 11:37 am
ChrisGOONA what is your usual name? I heard it was Julie
By: Texas on June 12, 2009
at 11:43 am
Drenthe hasn’t been as impressive as he was supposed to be, and Real Madrid haven’t got a solid unit to build on. If anyone remembers how Liverpool took them aprt so easily will understand that.
Cannavaro, Higuain, Schneider, Diarra and co looked completely unorganised and lost on the pitch. Their was no cohesion or anything. I may be looking into 1 game a bit too much, but my point is they haven’t got any real foundations like previously to add these amazing new galactico signings.
Barca have got Xavi, Iniesta, Etoo, Alves, Puyol, Valdes, etc all the same group playing toegther for a number of years, they add the odd signing here and there but the most part is built in-house so to speak.
What exactly do Real Madrid have going for them… they have accumalated a whole bunch of superstarsin the last couple years (Schneider/Diarra/Kaka/Ronaldo/Huntelarr/Van Der Vart) who will now have to all put their ego aside and learn how to play football as a unit by the time the new season starts….?? lets wait and see what happens.
By: ChrisGoona on June 12, 2009
at 11:46 am
Texas
Your girlfriend likes to call me that when we are roleplaying
By: ChrisGoona on June 12, 2009
at 11:47 am
chrisgoona please re-post you’re last post under your real name Julie
By: Texas on June 12, 2009
at 11:49 am
You gotta pity people who cannot begin to grasp that the idea of supporting Arsenal, for reasons argued, shown and proven (and at the very least interesting), means just that: interest, support.
Blinded by a vile kind of pettiness they throw labels and ‘arguments’ they barely comprehend.
You just gotta have pity sometimes.
By: ZimPaul on June 12, 2009
at 11:51 am
No he/she didn’t. I amworking. I wonder if Kieran Gibbs might be first choice left back this coming season?
By: Frank on June 12, 2009
at 11:51 am
is this better Texas??
Tell your gf ive brought my strap on please
hahahahahaa
By: Julie on June 12, 2009
at 11:54 am
Frank
I dont think Wenger will chuck him in yet, but Clichy has got to keep his performances up because Gibbsy is looking to be a real good player. Attacking wise he is probably ahead of Gael right now.
By: ChrisGoona on June 12, 2009
at 11:55 am
CG, remember Ethan Gunner?
No, I was going through the guys that will surely be leaving this summer. Van der Vaart, Drenthe, M. Diarra etc.
And before I was really just talking about the Galacticos approach from, what, 00-06? I think it worked quite well, at first. Then Zidane got old, so did Raúl and Roberto Carlos, and the new guys like Robinho, who wasn’t a genuine galactico, were a bit too inconsistent.
I think it’s pretty clear; if you stuff a bunch of the world’s best players together, you won’t help but win something. And it looks like they’ll get 4 or 5, all organised by a good coach – not Ramos or Bernd Schneider.
The whole Galacticos idea is grotesque, immoral, and goes against everything I like about the Arsenal, but, from a distance, it’s quite entertaining!
OK, enough BS from me!
By: OneOfUs on June 12, 2009
at 11:56 am
Howdy Julie, it suits you
By: Texas on June 12, 2009
at 11:56 am
Obviously the question at the start wasn’t related to the rest of the post!
By: OneOfUs on June 12, 2009
at 11:57 am
Hi Frank, Gibbs is an amazing talent. I wonder if AW will throw him into the deep end permanently right now though. If the deal for Vermaelen does go through, he is another player who can cover for Clichy at left back.
I hope Clichy’s injury is not as bad as feared and hope he is progressing to recovery. If Clichy makes a late start to the next season due to injury, I guess Gibbs will start.
By: Alex on June 12, 2009
at 11:57 am
Are you sure that Gael will still be with us, Chris?
By: Frank on June 12, 2009
at 11:58 am
ZimPaul
I know, some people come on looking for arguments… cough cough Texas.. Its a shame but when those people show such stupidy and resort to slagging off for no apparent reason, its easily to get sucked into that level of idiocy
By: ChrisGoona on June 12, 2009
at 11:59 am
Frank
Why? Do you think RM want him?????????
YW
By: Yogi's Warrior on June 12, 2009
at 12:00 pm
Frank
What would make you think for 1 second that he isnt ??? please tell me your sources
By: ChrisGoona on June 12, 2009
at 12:01 pm
CG, so long as it’s funny, I enjoy it. One tires of swatting flies sometimes, of which they have many in Texas btw. Thwack!!!
By: ZimPaul on June 12, 2009
at 12:08 pm
Just for the record . I do not post on LeGrove under my own name or an assumed name. Apart from anything else I do not have the time. The only other site I read is Untold Arsenal, and I never post comments there. ACLF is the only site I send comments to and has been for some time. One piece of advice though, be very wary of sites with a history of publishing people’s email addresses or sending unsolicited abusive emails to posters.
By: Frank on June 12, 2009
at 12:08 pm
That was indeed Ethan…
Who can mistake the eloquent manner in which he writes.
By: Matt on June 12, 2009
at 12:09 pm
Yes, YW, I would not be surprised.
By: Frank on June 12, 2009
at 12:09 pm
YW
I think there are plenty offers Arsenal have received that we dont know about, i dont know why everyone seems to think nowadays we are the selling club. When you have world class players like Cesc, Clichy, RvP its bound to generate interest from outside.
It annoys me that some of our fans have the perception that if RM or anyone else comes along offering 20m for 1 of our players we will just agree and let them go.
Wenger will only let a player go if they dont want to play for us any longer, or he doesnt see them in his plans.. its pretty simple.
By: ChrisGoona on June 12, 2009
at 12:10 pm
Sorry, ChrisGoona, I am not trying to spread scurrilous rumours. It is just a process of elimination. I think that Kieran is fully capable of making the step up permanently and we will have cover for the position in the near future.
By: Frank on June 12, 2009
at 12:13 pm
No one doubted it Frank, nor is it conceivable you would be bothered by the pettiness.
By: ZimPaul on June 12, 2009
at 12:14 pm
It is an interesting theory on Clichy and Gibbs. Still I would think strategy # 1 = keep the squad together.
By: ZimPaul on June 12, 2009
at 12:18 pm
Wow Frank.. that is a thought…. going by his (Clichy’s) comments(which is all we really have) i dont see Clichy leaving.. besides, I think Kieran would rather have another year atleast as a sub b4 wenger thinks of throwing him in full time…
By: chkmiaot on June 12, 2009
at 12:23 pm
Ole Gunner,
You clearly don’t understand the business of football. Sales of Beckham merchandise covered his transfer fee; therefore, merchandise sales will cover the transfer fee of any player. That is the first rule of the football business. What was that? Even if that is true for one player, might some fans choose to buy only one shirt? No, not at all. Every fan will buy a shirt for every star player. Even if there is a shortfall, foreign tours will easily make up the difference. And don’t give me that numbers bollocks. A general argument is enough. So long as it is accepted that more stars means more revenue from tours, the appropriate numbers can simply be inserted into the equation.
By: Poliziano on June 12, 2009
at 12:23 pm
Agree with ZimPaul.. Keeping the squad together should be priority…
By: chkmiaot on June 12, 2009
at 12:24 pm
The thing bout the Ronaldo deal that I dont like is that he cost more than Zidane who is a way better player…
By: chkmiaot on June 12, 2009
at 12:27 pm
I haven’t seen even a hint that Clichy will leave. If it did happen, though, Vermaelen (assuming he ever arrives) would play at left back.
By: Poliziano on June 12, 2009
at 12:35 pm
Ronaldo is the best player in the world imo, and to buy the best player in the world from a team who do not want to sell, requires you you to do something extraordinary, which is pay a world record fee.
Man U will clearly miss the guy, even if they do buy the players they are so far linked with.
Ribery may be good, but he is no Ronaldo.
Whilst undoubtedly good from an Arsenal point of view, as it can only make Man U weaker, it is a shame for the Prem.
As much as you dislike the guy, he is a joy to watch in full flow.
Another thought i have is that doesn’t it know look like we got Arshavin for a steal?
By: Matt on June 12, 2009
at 12:38 pm
YW,
Most of the figures I see about what Beckham made Madrid are not credible. Real’s revenues increased only slightly less than £100M in the time Beckham was there. I’d be surprised if he was responsible for even a tenth of that increase since Zidane, Ronaldo, Roberto Carlos & Raul were there in the same period and the club has a natural level of revenue increase especially from TV money.
Another reality check: If Real could generate that money, why on earth are AC Milan and Man poo not doing the same thing with their prized assets?
It is true though that their commercial revenue fell like £7M after Beckham left.
Yogi, do you know that clubs only get some %10 of the value of a football shirt sold? It’s hard to find figures of how many shirts are sold worldwide but Chelski for example sell less than 400k shirts worldwide annually.
Barcelona’s Commercial Director says RM would have to sell 30 million shirts to recoup the Kaka+Ronaldo outlay.
We’ll know soon enough if all this makes sense.
By: Myles Palmer is the Moron King on June 12, 2009
at 12:38 pm
Gibbs – No. 1 for England, but still No.2 (just) for Arsenal.
By: Big Johan on June 12, 2009
at 12:39 pm
Pol,
Why pay £10M for a centre half to then play him at left back?
Makes no sense…
Especially when we have Traore and Gibbs who can both play there should Clichy not be around.
By: Matt on June 12, 2009
at 12:39 pm
Arsenal needs strikers.. That’s what the gunners lacked this past year. Ronaldo good bye..Check out my blog Bobby Gee http://bobbygee.wordpress.com/
By: bobbygee on June 12, 2009
at 12:45 pm
“Why pay £10M for a centre half to then play him at left back?”
Why indeed? If we buy a £10M centre half, I doubt Wenger will play him at left back. Vermaelen, though, plays equally well (by all reports) in either position, so would be the obvious choice to play at left back.
By: Poliziano on June 12, 2009
at 12:47 pm
Matt
No offense to Ronaldo, but big star/player mentality attract the more glamarous clubs like Madrid, they both need each other and thrive off the commercial appeal and attention. What appeals more to Wenger and Arsenal is pure footballing ability, AA has that, and i think AA preferred to come Arsenal than to RM for 50m and have all the pressure to perform for a new team, new manager, and in a new league. Not saying that Zenit received such an offer though, the situation maybe different if RM r Barca saw AA’s footballing ability for what it is.
Kaka and Ronaldo are bigger houshold names than AA, we will see who is the better player and value for money next season. Not in terms of merchandise sales, but results on the pitch.
By: ChrisGoona on June 12, 2009
at 12:48 pm
Frank is the Der Fuerher! So what does that make YW? His Goebbels!
By: shotta-gunna on June 12, 2009
at 12:49 pm
Ronaldo is a masive loss for united. It is not certain that hey get all, or even most, of that cash back to reinvest – the glazers almost certainly have their eyes on some of it, them and the debt collectors. Even if they did, fergie is erratic in the market place. As it stands they have rooney, berbatov and some 17 year old – what they would give for Bendtner as 3rd choice right now.
who score and creates utds goals now??? Rooney alone as it stands, that is a bog change and must help us.
.
By: arsenehollis on June 12, 2009
at 12:53 pm
Agreed Pol, but primarily he is a Centre Half, which is where he playes for Belgium.
If we need a left back, which at this point we don’t, then i would prefer we promote Gibbs and Traore.
And even Silvestre can play there if necessary.
Chris,
I was just saying i thought we got a brilliant deal getting AA for £12M compared to RM paying £80M for Ronaldo.
By: Matt on June 12, 2009
at 12:55 pm
Matt
Yep I agree, Ronaldo is alot younger although and will probably sell more shirts!!
By: ChrisGoona on June 12, 2009
at 12:58 pm
Another thing, AA fits in perfectly with the Arsenal way of playing, he seems to have built an understanding with other players around him already. His best position is yet to be found though. With Ronaldo and Kaka i just wonder how they are contemplating to fit them in and keep all their STAR players happy.
When you are a Kaka or a Ronaldo you are used to getting special praise from Ancelotti or Fergie, and you are used to getting alot of playing time being the most important member of the team. Its going to be funny watching RM trying to keep all their toys in the pram.
By: ChrisGoona on June 12, 2009
at 1:03 pm
Maybe…. i will let the other debate on whether he will sell enough shirts to make the money back!
Anyway – one thing is for sure, we have AA next season, and ManU dont have Ronaldo.
By: Matt on June 12, 2009
at 1:03 pm
I think its funny how the media have made a meal out of the AA moaning on tax in england. I dont think there is a person in the country who doesn’t!!
By: ChrisGoona on June 12, 2009
at 1:05 pm
12.08 Well said Frank.
By: kelsey on June 12, 2009
at 1:08 pm
12.08 Well said Frank, it all becomes much clearer to me now.
By: kelsey on June 12, 2009
at 1:10 pm
bobbygee,
”
Arsenal needs strikers.. That’s what the gunners lacked this past year. Ronaldo good bye..Check out my blog Bobby Gee”
Thanks for letting us know what you’re all about beforehand. Arsenal doesn’t need strikers, we have the best strike force in EPL.
As for RM, despite the immoral ways or however you want to look at it, they did hire a good coach. And they’re going to go about buying a few other players this season. However you can’t really discount the possibilities of them buying some big name stars the next few seasons as well. The previous Galacticos, took time to build.
By: Ateeb on June 12, 2009
at 1:35 pm
“The reported £80 bid for Cristiano Ronaldo is probably the least surprising piece of transfer business this summer”
Yeah, £80’s an accurate value of what his worth IMO
.
By: Fabregas' Dad on June 12, 2009
at 1:42 pm
Actually the exact value is 80,368,120 M. The press is just rounding off the number.
By: Ateeb on June 12, 2009
at 1:58 pm
lazy of them.
By: Queen of Suburbia on June 12, 2009
at 1:58 pm
Ateeb
We do not have the best strikers in the premier league.Rvp had his best season yet scored only 11 goals 1 LESS than Kevin Davies
And if you think Ade was any good last season you were not watching the games
By: George on June 12, 2009
at 2:13 pm
By George that was a profound analysis.
By: Alex on June 12, 2009
at 2:26 pm
Sell Ade and RVP! Buy Kevin Davies and Darren Bent.
By: Myles Palmer is the Moron King on June 12, 2009
at 2:28 pm
http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/fabianski-signs-new-long-term-contract
By: Alex on June 12, 2009
at 2:28 pm
Today’s gem from a special blog –
“Sometimes it’s difficult to write a post when there’s no football on and no transfers happening, so come on Arsene, get your cheque book out and give us all something to talk about!”
Lol.
By: Alex on June 12, 2009
at 2:31 pm
George
RvP best season??? you mean only injury free season.. you sound confused lol
By: ChrisGoona on June 12, 2009
at 2:33 pm
George
well someone in attack is doing some thing right. we scored as many as united, jus did not have a good defense for it to mean something.
Ade scored more than bentdner, berbatov, drogba and scored one less than torres in less games in09 season. anelka was head and shoulders better than every one else but played much more games
Robin scored 20 goals in all with 15 assists – if kevin davies matches these stats (which i doubt) he should be playing for a bigger club
our attack is comparable to the rest of the top4 – so our strikerforce is one of the best in the league! if you dont believe me do the maths
By: geeGunner on June 12, 2009
at 2:40 pm
ChrisGoona
Thats my point.Everyone says this is his best season but in 06-07 season he scored 11 goals in 17 games starts.Last season he got 11 goals in 24 starts.And the 06-07 was injury hit
By: George on June 12, 2009
at 2:42 pm
geeGunner
Kevin Davies 12 LEAGUE goals RVP 11.And thats a fact
By: George on June 12, 2009
at 2:44 pm
tevez 5 goals
berabtov 9 goals
rooney 12 goals
so only rooney is good enough to lace kevin davis shoes and tevez and berbatov should be relegated to the cola-ship.
By: notlager on June 12, 2009
at 2:46 pm
notlager
thank you
By: ttm on June 12, 2009
at 2:48 pm
id be wary of thinking united will struggle cause ronaldo’s gone – when henry left us our team play improved and we challenged for the league.
Utd player will want to show the rest of the league they are more than a one man team and will work harder for the team just like happened for us when henry left. That said it could go the other way – the players might feel a tad weaker without their main tailisman and negativity creep into their game.
I would rather they had ronaldo and we beat em to the league cause like lenox lewis and joe calzaghe their will always be the doubt that they were proclaimed the greatest when thier main rivals had passed their prime due years of battling tougher opponents, while their (lewis,Clazaghe) promoters looked for easier paydays!!
By: geeGunner on June 12, 2009
at 2:51 pm
George,
Didn’t you say something like that before, but ignored the fact that RvP, as a second striker, isn’t meant to be the main goal-getter? So if you’re basing his contribution purely on stats, then you have to factor in assists as well.
By: OneOfUs on June 12, 2009
at 2:52 pm
George, the fact that Kevin Davies got 12 goals and Ricardo Fuller of Stoke got 11 goals just proves that they are the main goal getters at their clubs. The second highest goal scorer at those clubs have far fewer goals.
When RvP has 11 league goals, Ade has 10 and Bendtner has 9 it just shows that our strike force is balanced, can play off each other and gets a higher number of goals overall.
By: Alex on June 12, 2009
at 2:58 pm
George
Kevin Davies is the best, get his autograph lol
By: ChrisGoona on June 12, 2009
at 2:58 pm
George
dont forget the Fa cup and champs league goals count for something too. Rvp has had better form but this season he has been injury free and chipped in with a fair amount of goals. Cosidering we were not firing on all cylinders to score near enough the same amount of goals as the top teams in the league is very good and in a season where our main strike force has been disrupted through injury, the whole strike force has done really well.
whats ur point we should sell RVP and by davies? or RVP is shit? or…….? have u got a point? ur original point that our stikeforce was not the best in the league – my point that it is comparable to the best in the league!!
By: geeGunner on June 12, 2009
at 2:59 pm
Alex
Dont bother try explaining it, u might confuse him!
By: ChrisGoona on June 12, 2009
at 3:00 pm
No wonder the club is falling down year after year because of fans like you who only support AW and not the Arsenal.
AW has failed the club and will not buy anyone this season because his beloved French and African players are not easy to get anymore.
If AW don’t get any player in the African or the French market he won’t buy. He continues to buy average Fro-African players at the expense of the club.
Sir Alex is the best coach on our shores. He let go Cantona and replaced him with David Beckam. He let Beckam leave and bought Ronaldo. Compared with AW he’s the better manager because he’s not obsessed with average Afro-French players.
He’s already planning to offload Nani because Nani has fallen short but AW is keeping his average Afro-French players and top that up with better contracts.
AW is so inward looking that he doesn’t look at any player except French and African players that’s why Arsenal is suffering.
You people are so ‘crazy’ about AW that you don’t see him destroying our beloved club.
You’re not Arsenal fans and you’ll leave when AW leaves so leave now.
By: 4th the target on June 12, 2009
at 3:06 pm
Hi people
YW, well dne for keeping the good blogs coming in. Not much time for responding usually but i read cos They are usually insghtful, witty and balanced, so well done
CR moving from the PL, if he does replicate his form of two seasons ago in Spain, will be spains gain, but in a sense it is also arsenal gain as someone pointed out, our rivals are the weaker for the move.
He is leaving at a much younger age than Henry left us, no doubt they will buy a replacement for him else t may not be that easy for them
By: Team Spirit on June 12, 2009
at 3:10 pm
And George, the fact we did not win trophies is about how poorly we defended as a team not about there being a problem with the attack except from the pont of view that no matter what, we should just outscore the opposition,? We will get there, Rome was not built in a day, nor the incincibles
By: Team Spirit on June 12, 2009
at 3:12 pm
To be honest, I expected more from RVP. He’s a player I really rate. He had some spells during the most recent season in which he wasn’t as influential as he could have been.
But I can’t sneeze at 20 goals in 44 games plus 15 assists. That’s a pretty good return. And when you factor in how many times he’s hit the bar…..
RVP can carry us to a trophy. He’s a player who sometimes seems to get hung up on certain things. Like always trying to work the ball to his left leg when his right leg works just fine. Or the insane number of times he hit the bar (at least 12).
We need him to go crazy and have a big season like Adebayor had last season. He’s been at the club now for 5 seasons and he’s due a very big season.
By: Myles Palmer is the Moron King on June 12, 2009
at 3:13 pm
Just thought I’d pop in and say, “Hi, Hugs and…
George
Better stats to look at:
Davies 1 goal every 3.2 games
RvP 1 every 2.5 games
Ade 1 every 2.6 games
Bendtner 1 every 3.6 games
All of the Arsenal players includes their substitute appearances.
So which strikers are better? The only award Davies won last season was being the dirtiest bastard in the EPL, committing 2.9 fouls every game.
I’m off back to Anorak Corner.
YW
By: Yogi's Warrior on June 12, 2009
at 3:13 pm
And George, the fact we did not win trophies is about how poorly we defended as a team not about there being a problem with the attack except from the point of view that no matter what, we should just outscore the opposition?
We will get there, Rome was not built in a day, nor the invincibles. This team with one more yeas experience under their belt will only get better, which is why it is imperative not to sell any player in the first team squad, just add to them
By: Team Spirit on June 12, 2009
at 3:13 pm
geeGunner – It would be foolish to think that ManU will collapse without Ronaldo. However they will miss Ronaldo. There midfield now looks incredible week compared to Arsenal Liverpool or Chelsea. Not only has their top scorer left but Giggs and Scholes are way past their best, Nani looks to be on his way out, Anderson is overrated. It also looks like Tevez will not be signing. This leaves them with only 2 recognised first team strikers. They have a young winger they bought a while ago (can’t remember his name) who is supposed to be quality but they have no other wingers to speak of. If they do not bring in some quality they will suffer.
By: Marc on June 12, 2009
at 3:15 pm
Dickhead @3:06
first says
“Sir Alex is the best coach on our shores. He let go Cantona and replaced him with David Beckam. He let Beckam leave and bought Ronaldo. Compared with AW he’s the better manager because he’s not obsessed with average Afro-French players.” – he is also obsessed with a bigger budget u twat
and then hilariously claims -
“You’re not Arsenal fans and you’ll leave when AW leaves so leave now.”
Also french african player like viera, henry, lauren, kanu,anelka, petit, that have contributed more than u can ever do u fake supporter.
The one highlight of the 21st century is that there are more fakes and replica in this world than ever before. u can get anything fake these days – apparently judging by dickheads comments u can get fake supporters too!!faker
By: geeGunner on June 12, 2009
at 3:16 pm
Good morning/Afternoon all!
I could care less if Ronaldo stays or goes but what I hate is Arsenal fans saying that they are glad that he is gone! If thats the case I would prefer he stayed so we could beat a Man U team with him in it next season.
Oh, Messi is the best in the world, Ronaldo doesnt come close to that guy except for free kicks, steppin over the ball and beautifying himself.
Blessings!
By: Paul N on June 12, 2009
at 3:23 pm
NO FEAR!
By: Paul N on June 12, 2009
at 3:23 pm
i agree marc – i think they have to find a relacement for scoles rather than ronaldo. finding a creative player like scholes will be a lot harder than finding a tricky winger, tho he is top top class. creative playmakers that can play in the prem are not easy to find due to the pace we play the game here. a lot of playmakers want more time than there is available. if they do find that player i can see them being just as strong. Rooney will carry the mantle and berba will have a better season now he knows his team mates.
but i think if we can get 2 defenders (one who could play in DM too) then we will be on track again as we have a very very good sqaud of player with more potential bursting to come through
By: geeGunner on June 12, 2009
at 3:26 pm
YW good piece.
4th whatever. RVP ,Arshavin, Reyes, Jeffers , and Walcott are non French African players. AW paid the highest fees for them except RVP , so your point again?
Cronaldo good player but shitty sportsman so he will eventually starts believing his own hype and goes downhill. The fee of 80 mio will be a milestone around his neck. Kaka is another character altogether. He will stay grounded and go on to be one of the greats in footballing history.
Sir Rednose and red face was right to sell as Cronaldo’s attitude was getting to adversely affect the team cohesion and spirit.
For us if Vermalaean ( I hope I got that right) is as good as reported in the air , he will be an excellent signing for us. He is a leader at 23 so we will have a leader and organiser in defence and another elader in midfield. Just what the doctor ordered.
RM needs a strong personality as manager as there will be mighty big ego in teh dressing room.
We Are The Arsenal!!!!
By: Malaysiangunner on June 12, 2009
at 3:27 pm
geeGunner – I agree, ManU have a bigger problem than just trying to replace Ronaldo. They also need a left winger, a least one CM and a striker. Fergie’s recent addtions have been very expensive signings if he continues with this policy ManU will need to spend all if the £80 million maybe a more. The question is do they have the money to do this?
By: Marc on June 12, 2009
at 3:36 pm
Minutes per goal, Premier League:
Kevin Davies 281
RVP 200
Adebayor 188
Drogba 310
Rooney 189
Fuller 212
By: Myles Palmer is the Moron King on June 12, 2009
at 3:38 pm
Myles Palmer is the Moron King – Where does Robbie Keane come in your list during his stint at Liverpool?
By: Marc on June 12, 2009
at 3:40 pm
MPitMK, telling stats.
By: Paul N on June 12, 2009
at 3:41 pm
Marc,
a goal every 252 minutes. All these stats are from the Telegraph: http://footballstats.telegraph.co.uk/PlayerStat.aspx?type=career&p1id=3384&p2id=8125&p1match=0&p2match=0&p1league=50&p2league=50#stats
By: Myles Palmer is the Moron King on June 12, 2009
at 3:43 pm
a different aspect to the RM rebuilding…
read somewhere RVN was available for around 4M…coming off serious knee surgery
i would take that, leg and all, age and all…we need another finisher,at anything like that price he would be a steal off the bench
By: Blazon on June 12, 2009
at 3:43 pm
George,
Drogba scored 5 league goals last season. Should CSKA Fulham offload him to Newcastle?
By: Alex on June 12, 2009
at 3:43 pm
Yep OG, (permit me to call u that cos its a lot wasier than your current name LOL), I also expected greater things from RVP, just glad he was able to go through a proper season for a change, he will only get better next season, for sure; I watched him against Norway the other night, very well played
By: Team Spirit on June 12, 2009
at 3:43 pm
Why are we discussing the dirty bullying cheating bas#4s6s76d in the form of Kevin Davies? He will forever be in Bolton and the likes of them. A third tier EPL team.
Lets discuss the Arsenal
By: Malaysiangunner on June 12, 2009
at 3:44 pm
sell Clichy and Sagna…
replace with EE and Gibbs…
put 30M in the bank…
score more goals from decent crosses…
QED…
next question?
By: Blazon on June 12, 2009
at 3:46 pm
“a different aspect to the RM rebuilding…
read somewhere RVN was available for around 4M…coming off serious knee surgery
i would take that, leg and all, age and all…we need another finisher,at anything like that price he would be a steal off the bench”
Feeling a bit queasy. He’s in a list of players I’d never want to see anywhere near an Arsenal shirt, unless it was being used to smother his equine face.
Not a bad player though.
By: OneOfUs on June 12, 2009
at 3:47 pm
Blazon, and I suppose horseface can bang in those crosses right? Neat theory.
By: Alex on June 12, 2009
at 3:49 pm
ALEX, which one is horseface? if its EE, yes he can…and he can score goals now and then…Gibbs can clearly to both…Sagna and Clichy can do neither.
By: Blazon on June 12, 2009
at 3:56 pm
ACLF MOB,
It’s horrendous what people on here do with the people you label “Doomers”. You all gang up, and put him to the sword. You make them go through shame and embarassment, and surely make them quetsion their own intelligence. Moreover you tell them to support some other big spending club. So what, if these people are not smart enough to realise anything about values, and principles about the club? So what if they don’t ever get the whole picture, and never take things into context, like injuries or finances of the club? Does that mean they all are stupid. Then you call them simple. What the f***? So what if they can’t see that Denilson might have been one of the top midfielders the last season in the league? And RVP is a class apart from most strikers playing in Europe. If they don’t see things like you guys, does not mean they are stupid or should be labelled doomers. They just have a differing opinion. And stats never show the complete picture, we all know that. These people shouldn’t be harassed like you lot do. Becuase many are season ticket holders. And many of them go to the games. You should not question them if they sit through the whole match or not. Or why they boo when they do. They are just a bit different. They need your help and enlightenment, not your abuse. They are suffering from some serious neourolgical diseas, that needs to be cured through some proper medication, and not through your abuse. If you guys want to bring change, then form a charity, and donate for these people. So they could get proper medical help that they need, and not insult.
P.S Only Kirby is simple.
By: THEY JUST HAVE A DIFFERENT OPNION!!! on June 12, 2009
at 3:56 pm
OOU…
queasy, yes…until the first one goes in.
By: Blazon on June 12, 2009
at 3:58 pm
Myles Palmer is the Moron King – Actually I was kidding. I thought he only scored 2 league goals for them. So cost £20 million, scores 2 goals, sold 6 months later for £12 million, club plays awful football and is in £350 million in debt. And Liverpool fans think Benitez is a great manager?
By: Marc on June 12, 2009
at 3:59 pm
OOU,
In Eduardo, dont we already possess one RVN kind of player? If on the downside Eduardo needs more time to fully recuperate from his unfortunate injury, we could do with a poacher.
In that scenario though, one would’nt like anything better than daring to make a bid to take Henry back. The return of the king. —end of dream–
By: Alex on June 12, 2009
at 4:01 pm
Add Blazon to the “Simple” category with Kirby And the last one to be declared as “simple”. But that is it, everyone else just need proper medical help.
By: THEY JUST HAVE A DIFFERENT OPINION on June 12, 2009
at 4:02 pm
Sell all the French boys except Clichy, Sagna and Nasri. The rest of them are now not good for the Arsenal.
Toure, Song, Eboue are all not good enough. Sell all of them.
Also sell Denilson, he has no talent, it’s a joke. I’ve not seen him go past two defenders or free himself in a tight corner. No wonder, in Brazil, they rate even Anderson and Lucas ahead of him.
AW is wasting our money paying huge salaries for these average players who can never deliver.
Once again, he won’t buy any quality except average Afro-Frencyh players.
We just handed over the league title to Chelsea next season.
Sack Wenger and replace him with Bould. AW lost it long time ago. He’s only interested in using Colney to train French players.
By: 4th the target on June 12, 2009
at 4:03 pm
What I like is 4th the Target’s originality. Never before have I heard these arguments, and so well articulated with all the facts to back them up.
By: ZimPaul on June 12, 2009
at 4:04 pm
Actually, the breathable material they use for football shirts these days would make smothering quite difficult.
Personally, I don’t think our strike force needs changing at all. It certainly wasn’t the problem last season.
Perhaps Ade underperformed just a little, but he was still effective when fit. There’s no reason why the best isn’t yet to come for him.
I think we’ve established that RvP was great, but he can still do better.
Then we have younger players like Vela and Bendtner coming through.
While Dudu should start the new season completely free of injury. He’s probably the best finisher at the club, a world class striker.
By: OneOfUs on June 12, 2009
at 4:05 pm
Goals per match Champions League 08/09:
Ade 0.74 (1 every 1.4 games)
RVP 0.65 (1 every 1.5 games)
Drogba 0.76 (1 every 1.3 games)
Anelka 0.25 (1 every 4.0 games)
Ibra 0.13 (1 every 7.7 games)
Raul 0.13 (1 every 7.7 games)
Torres 0.32 (1 every 3.1 games)
Eto’o 0.46 (1 every 2.2 games)
Messi 0.87 (1 every 1.1 games)
Henry 0.64 (1 every 1.6 games)
Ronaldo 0.36 (1 every 2.8 games)
Berbatov 0.7 (1 every 1.4 games)
Rooney 0.38 (1 every 2.6 games)
Tevez 0.41 (1 every 2.4 games)
Source: uefa.com: http://www.uefa.com/competitions/ucl/clubs/index.html
By: Myles Palmer is the Moron King on June 12, 2009
at 4:06 pm
Blazon, maybe.. just maybe, Sagna and Clichy are two of the leading full backs in the world and not deserving of your contempt. Just a thought.
Fine, they could learn to cross better but what about other aspects of their play. Positional sense? Pace? Mental strength? Skill on the ball? Defensive fortitude?
Lets just say that most teams would kill to have Bac and Gael in their teams.
By: Alex on June 12, 2009
at 4:07 pm
Do continue 4th. I am in awe. We need more facts like this.
By: ZimPaul on June 12, 2009
at 4:07 pm
Lol @ ZimPaul – 4.04 pm. As CB would say, you could’nt make it up.
By: Alex on June 12, 2009
at 4:11 pm
Is it all French-African players, or only ours? Do Essien and Drogba, Eto’o and Anelka, Evra and Ribery, Yaya Toure and Martins also count?
By: ZimPaul on June 12, 2009
at 4:13 pm
Yes, Alex! I agree. Except, to call Dudu an RvN-type player is a bit of an insult!
It would be nice to see Henry play for us again, though it’s been some time since he played as the main goal-scorer. What’s his role at Barcelona? It’s kind of a Laudrup-style, right-footed, left-sided forward/attacking midfielder. LOL!
By: OneOfUs on June 12, 2009
at 4:15 pm
4th the target,
The likes of you, Patrice and Howard the clown can try arguing all you want. All we see is a load of tosh. Your arguments are so hilariously bad that its not funny.
By: Alex on June 12, 2009
at 4:15 pm
I propose surgery. This is an urgent case. Pills won’t work. Dr. Ateeb, scalpel please. Forceps too. In fact, just hand over the whole lot. It can be cured, but have courage, we MUST operate.
By: ZimPaul on June 12, 2009
at 4:16 pm
OOU, no offence to Eduardo! He is twice the player RvN is. And also 100 times as dignified, humble, straightforward and plain nice.
By: Alex on June 12, 2009
at 4:17 pm
“I’ve not seen him…free himself in a tight corner.”
And you’re complaining about that?! Because it’s not something I’m too desperate to see.
By: OneOfUs on June 12, 2009
at 4:19 pm
4th’s comments have to be a wind up, as there is no other explanation for their stupidity.
I am also too busy wondering why all of our best players are of Franco-African origin…
Cesc, Eduardo, RVP, Arshavin, Rosicky, Walcott etc.
By: Matt on June 12, 2009
at 4:20 pm
Of course the procedure is experimental. But for the sake of this poor man we must do what we can or he risks staying like for the rest of is life.
By: ZimPaul on June 12, 2009
at 4:22 pm
“Lets just say that most teams would kill to have Bac and Gael in their teams.”
which is why it would be a good time to sell them, knowing their downside better than most.
my intense enjoyment watching every Arsenal game is now clouded by having to watch these two performing at pub level re crossing and shooting, something they have to do under our system…
i grant you, defensively, Sagna is the best of the 4…not Clichy tho, he has had too many melt downs…Kieran Gibbs will be in S. Africa next year and my bet is he will start ahead of Cole…EE proved himself as a wing back in the ‘06 CL…
trying to quantify what would happen we would likely give three or four extra goals away in a season…and score ten more…and have 30M more in the bank or a David Villa /wannabee.
By: Blazon on June 12, 2009
at 4:23 pm
Wow. I’m loving all this insight from some of the folk today.
Can we hear a bit more from 4th please?
By: MrP on June 12, 2009
at 4:25 pm
I am laughing too much to comment….
The world has gone mad…
By: Matt on June 12, 2009
at 4:25 pm
The vile criminality of being Afro-French…..a deadly genetic flaw. According to Myles Palmer, 4TT, Patrick, Howard and the BNP.
I hope detectives read forums like these…you never know which one will be next to open gunfire on a holocaust museum or something like that. Apparently that kind of person rants derangedly online spewing irrational and unfactual bile against the groups they detest….
By: Myles Palmer is the Moron King on June 12, 2009
at 4:25 pm
Zimpaul
Essien and co. are better players. The kind AW buys are always not good.
Mark my words. This summer, he’ll buy only African or French players or not at all.
By: 4th the target on June 12, 2009
at 4:25 pm
Blazon, sell Sagna and Clichy?
There first and most important function is to defend, which they do as well as anyone.
By: Paul N on June 12, 2009
at 4:27 pm
I love African and French players, cant wait to see em!
By: Paul N on June 12, 2009
at 4:27 pm
aaaaaahahahahahahahaaaa hahahaha
tee hee hee
Yeah, good one.
By: MrP on June 12, 2009
at 4:28 pm
thanks matt you just beat me to this great wonder of all our france-african players… are they really that many? More than during the invincibles? I wonder
By: Team Spirit on June 12, 2009
at 4:29 pm
What about the young English lad we’ve signed? Or is he black and French as well?
By: Marc on June 12, 2009
at 4:30 pm
but 4th, in January, he bought only AA, is he french african too?
You think so because of his initials?
By: Team Spirit on June 12, 2009
at 4:30 pm
TS, would that stand for African American?
By: Paul N on June 12, 2009
at 4:32 pm
It is only human to want to assist this tragic patient. Yes, there are risks. But we can delay no longer. We must undertake the first ever complete human transplant. Everything must go. A desperate case. We will need to replace them all with an entire French-African donor, every apendage, every organ, and all the gloop too.
If possible, gallic nose, with broad Afro- features, crinkly hair, as black as a Senegalese sailor and palate straight out of michelin star restaurant.
By: ZimPaul on June 12, 2009
at 4:32 pm
I think it’s good news for Arsenal.
I don’t think Man Utd will be able to replace Ronaldo. It’s hard to find world class creative wings, and very few of them appear to be on the market. I also do not believe that money will stretch as far as some Man U fans are hoping it will.
They should be a weaker outfit next season.
Although, they, along with Man City and Chelsea, will probably jack up the price on some Arsenal transfer targets.
By: Dave on June 12, 2009
at 4:32 pm
Where does a players nationality come into having an intelligent discussion regarding Arsenal. People say they have a right to their opinion but to bring up nationality is terrible, its a shame quite frankly.
By: Paul N on June 12, 2009
at 4:36 pm
The donor must be quite young, a gifted dancer with a variety of African styles, and penchant for cycling the tour de france and saying things like “Non, je ne regret rien”.
By: ZimPaul on June 12, 2009
at 4:36 pm
It’s worse than shameful Paul N.
By: ZimPaul on June 12, 2009
at 4:39 pm
The level of stupidity only makes it funny in my book.
Surely no one can take those comments seriously?
By: Matt on June 12, 2009
at 4:41 pm
Sorry 4th, I got carried away. Too busy marking your words.
OK, I’ve marked them.
Oh no!
They stink, phew, really really stink!
By: ZimPaul on June 12, 2009
at 4:41 pm
Paul N. LOL, I guess, at least African comes in somewhere eh?
By: Team Spirit on June 12, 2009
at 4:42 pm
Humour is always the best, and sometimes only cure.
By: ZimPaul on June 12, 2009
at 4:42 pm
Paul N – I don’t understand the obsession with players nationalities. When we were limited to the number of foreign players the number of English internationals gave you some bragging rights but every team in the PL is full of international players now.
By: Marc on June 12, 2009
at 4:44 pm
4th, you are the funniest guy for a while to grace these pages.
By: ZimPaul on June 12, 2009
at 4:44 pm
Matt, but he is not joking at all, is he. Its horrible the hate some people have in their hearts against other races/nationalities.
4th, you need to stop with that my friend. We are Arsenal and above all humans and where we come from doesnt matter at all, or it shouldnt.
Be Blessed!
NO FEAR!
By: Paul N on June 12, 2009
at 4:45 pm
Even so, I still think we should operate. Just for fun.
By: ZimPaul on June 12, 2009
at 4:45 pm
I agree ZP, gotta laugh some things off.
I hate the foolishness though!
ARSENAL!
By: Paul N on June 12, 2009
at 4:47 pm
.
By: Gunner4Ever on June 12, 2009
at 4:51 pm
Has 4th scurried away into a hole of shame yet?
By: ZimPaul on June 12, 2009
at 4:53 pm
G4E, what does . mean?
Or is that a speck of dirt on my screen?
By: ZimPaul on June 12, 2009
at 5:04 pm
My screen is really filthy.
By: ZimPaul on June 12, 2009
at 5:05 pm
.
By: ZimPaul on June 12, 2009
at 5:06 pm
I don’t hate players of other nationalities except that AW has relied on buying the poor ones and have not delivered.
AW pays high wages for these average players year after year and year after year they are jokers, craps. Eboue, Song, Almunia, Diaby, Toure, Senderos, Denilson are all not good to play for the club now.
AW don’t buy good quality and so we’\re not been winning and because we’re not winning we’re losing revenue.
Chesea has now beaten us in terms of merchandise revenue. They had 60 milliobn last season against ours of 44 million. Why? They’re winning, buying better players.
If we had back Anelka in 2006/7 season we would have won the league but he refused to buy him because of personal reasons not Arsenals.
By: 4th the target on June 12, 2009
at 5:07 pm
There is an air of stunned silence
By: ZimPaul on June 12, 2009
at 5:15 pm
Awkward … ulp …
By: ZimPaul on June 12, 2009
at 5:15 pm
So what you are saying 4th is that if we had just one more French player of African origins (Anelka) we would have won the league?
By: ZimPaul on June 12, 2009
at 5:18 pm
4th the target – Out of the 7 players you name Eboue, Diaby and Senderos are not first choice. Who do you think we should have on the bench?
By: Marc on June 12, 2009
at 5:18 pm
ARSENAL !!!!
Mercy, mercy, mercy.
By: ZimPaul on June 12, 2009
at 5:19 pm
LOL ZimPaul…trust your eyes, it’s exactly what you see….my point, make of it what you will
By: Gunner4Ever on June 12, 2009
at 5:20 pm
ZimPaul – I think you may have just destroyed his whole belief system. Never mind.
By: Marc on June 12, 2009
at 5:20 pm
F*ck Off Howard
By: Gunner4Ever on June 12, 2009
at 5:23 pm
I absolutely, completely and utterly fucking hate the close season. Money bores me witless and transfers bore me as much. As a child I used to fucking hate Monopoly, and as an adult I think it is a game from hell, should never have moved out of Atlantic City. Waddingtons! Fucking bastards. The close season is a million times worse than having to play Monotony…I mean …Monopoly…..I want to see some fucking football…and I want to see Arsenal playing football…..now…immediately.
By: Frank on June 12, 2009
at 5:25 pm
How much merchandise do Chelsea sell? I can’t recall ever having seen someone in a Chelsea shirt.
By: Poliziano on June 12, 2009
at 5:26 pm
I even refused to buy a new Samsung TV
By: Gunner4Ever on June 12, 2009
at 5:28 pm
Frank – The season’s only been finished a couple of weeks and I’m bored to death.
By: Marc on June 12, 2009
at 5:32 pm
““Lets just say that most teams would kill to have Bac and Gael in their teams.”
which is why it would be a good time to sell them, knowing their downside better than most.”
Impecable logic.
Zp,
I really can’t operate on this one. I think we’re too late. If only he had arrived at our “bring back doomers to life centre” a little earlier we might have saved him.
By: THEY JUST HAVE A DIFFERENT OPINION on June 12, 2009
at 5:32 pm
4TT,
What is the source of the figures you quoted about Chelsea and Arsenal’s merchandising income?
By: Myles Palmer is the Moron King on June 12, 2009
at 5:37 pm
I know, Marc. Two nights ago my wife caught me downstairs in the middle of the night making an exact replica of the Arsenal Stadium out of mashed potato.
By: Frank on June 12, 2009
at 5:39 pm
Laugh all you want but EVEN Sakho’s agent has labelled us as “CHEAP”
The player’s representative told Sport, “He will be moving clubs this summer. Arsenal are interested, but the club are too cheap at the moment.”
Regarding the likelihood of a summer transfer, Hager said, “I think a transfer will happen soon. He wants to play football in England and Arsenal are a good club, however, Manchester United are a better club.
“Arsenal want him, but Manchester United [do] not. Barcelona in Spain, and Bayern Munich in the German league are also interested.
“The most interested club is Arsenal, they want him the most. Bayern Munich are a top European club, so I think it will be Bayern or Arsenal.”
AND
http://www.goal.com/en/news/1717/editorial/2009/06/12/1321206/goalcom-transfer-special-kaka-cristiano-ronaldo-15-more
Check this. 15 great player’s and not one of them is linked with us. WAKE UP ARSENE BEFORE IT’S TOO LATE!!! We lack ambition!!!
By: The Doomers' Family on June 12, 2009
at 5:39 pm
Also…..What has Chelsea won? Not the league or Champions League. The only two competitions that truly add anything to the financial health of a Top 4 club. The money they get from the FA Cup won’t pay Fat Frank and Terry’s salaries for one year.
By: Myles Palmer is the Moron King on June 12, 2009
at 5:40 pm
The Doomers’ Family – 2 of them already play for us you idiot. Was Henry a superstar when we signed him? Pires? Wenger doesn’t sign superstars he makes them.
By: Marc on June 12, 2009
at 5:46 pm
Guys – Ignore the trolls.
I am not convinced ManU has 80 million to spend on transfers this summer. The Glazers have major interest payments coming up after loading the club with 350 million in debt. Real Madrid, like all transfers will not pay in a lump-sum but over 3-5 years plus in the past they have defaulted on transfer payments, specifically to Arsenal for the Anelka transfer (Thanks to Tony Attwood, Untold Arsenal, for this nugget).
If for PR reasons they must appear to have 80 million to spend, in this inflated xfer market how many quality players can they sign on this budget with a clear need for a winger, centre-forward and creative mid-fielder. The so-called transfer genius of Fergie will be really tested.
I for one am simply amazed by Wenger’s foresight for realizing, long before anyone else, that one cannot be self-sustaining by depending on the transfer market on which to build a quality team that can challenge for honours every year. It is astounding how well stocked we are with young players in almost all positions, especially midfield and forward-line. The trolls and morons who come here inciting racism and nationalism, using the meme French-African players, are just
simply hate-mongers and fake supporter of AFC.
By: shotta-gunna on June 12, 2009
at 5:50 pm
Marc,
Which superstar has he made in the last 4 years? Even Cesc, just had one good season. He was awful this season. It’s about time Wenger buys a superstar, rather than trying to make one. He has failed. Henry and Pires, were French player’s from a better generation. You just have to see the state of the French national side, to realise French players are crap now. We need more Spanish players like Villa, Silva, Iniesta, Xavi and Ramos!!!
And don’t you dare call me an idiot. THEY JUST HAVE A DIFFERENT OPINION, was right about you guys, that you call people name and throw insult.
By: The Doomers' Family on June 12, 2009
at 5:52 pm
shotta-gunna – If ManU are coping with the debt as well as they, the fans and the media would want us to believe you would have thought that they would have gotten deals for new players in place before announcing the Ronaldo deal. Before everyone decides to put the prices of their players up.
By: Marc on June 12, 2009
at 5:54 pm
The Doomers’ Family – What would you call someone who wants Arsenal to be linked with two of their own players?
By: Marc on June 12, 2009
at 5:56 pm
Great posts over the last couple of weeks, thanks alot YW!
Trolls & Spudulytes are still scuttling around I see.
…but clearly the WUM’s do all have a point. AW is a traitor to AFC, that’s why he ran off to RM when the going got tough!
BRING BACK ADAMS!
It’s nearly midsummer, time to forget the footy, and go watch the 20-20!
peace.
By: there's only one arsene wenger on June 12, 2009
at 5:58 pm
I dont know what you’re talking about. The article made a mistake of adding Adebayor and whoever arsenal player was on the list. If anything, Adebayor doesn’t make the grade. Even Sir Myles Palmer, made the observation that every Gooner wants Ade to be sold. ARE YOU A GOONER MARC??!?! IF YOU ARE THEN YOU SHOULD BE HAPPY IF ADE IS SOLD?!?!
By: The Doomers' Family on June 12, 2009
at 6:00 pm
LOL The Doomers Family….. these people on ere.. propre deluded…. LOL.. no trophie for 4 yrs… ha HA ha HA HAha ha ….
tossers
By: Muppet on June 12, 2009
at 6:07 pm
An entire day on Ronaldo!
Enough please….
By: Arse Baggins on June 12, 2009
at 6:16 pm
FUCk Off doomers family!!!!
Well that’s something Ive never tried before. lol
I aggree with Arse Baggins from the shire.
By: Ateeb on June 12, 2009
at 6:22 pm
Don’t you have to sign some kind of non-disclosure agreement before you get on Ronaldo?
By: Poliziano on June 12, 2009
at 6:22 pm
Watching Sri Lanka vs. Pakistan today play a game in the greatest spirit and at the highest standards of skill and competition, only months after the shootings in Lahore, really puts the spoilt bleatings of some football ‘fans’ into perspective.
It’s hard for some people to accept, but sport is about more then just winning.
Maybe people with that kind of mentality should play a bit more sport themselves….????
By: there's only one arsene wenger (T.O.O.A.W.) on June 12, 2009
at 6:22 pm
we’ve had enough with the w^nker we talked about him as much as we talked about flamini and both are w^nkers.
By: Once A W^nker Always A W^nker on June 12, 2009
at 6:42 pm
“An entire day on Ronaldo!
Enough please….”
Amen to that!
By: Passenal on June 12, 2009
at 6:59 pm
Apparently we’ve been linked to Mamadou Sakho. Could be another case of smoke and mirrors.
Also, on SSN, Bergkamp was talking up YaYa Toure is a possible target. The agent sounds like a greedy bastard though. Actually, very similar quotes to that of Sakho’s agent, another greedy bastard.
Will transfers be more difficult to secure now, than 10 years ago ? Because it seems the world is full of greedy bastard agents who will just follow the money.
By: Muppet on June 12, 2009
at 7:16 pm
Poliziano, you must have noticed how 4th the target called our players ‘craps’. Funny how these BNP nationalists dont even have a grip on their mother tongue. Only Howard the lunatic would spell crap that way.
By: Alex on June 12, 2009
at 7:18 pm
Yes Muppet. Its time atleast some players realised the damage that their agents are doing to them with their short term thinking and money grabbing antics. Hopefully the players understand how it is in the interest of the agent more than the player to frequently move clubs, ask for new deals after one good year and whoring themselves every year to new clubs.
By: Alex on June 12, 2009
at 7:22 pm
Ateeb, u r killin me! I just love “The Doomer’s Family” alter ego, im crakin up! and now “THEY JUST HAVE A DIFFERENT OPINION”.
Great!
By: Paul N on June 12, 2009
at 7:22 pm
The Doomers Family
“And don’t you dare call me an idiot. THEY JUST HAVE A DIFFERENT OPINION, was right about you guys, that you call people name and throw insult.”
ha ha! classic!
By: Paul N on June 12, 2009
at 7:26 pm
Alex,
Yes. It’s a depressing scenario.
By: Muppet on June 12, 2009
at 7:32 pm
No more Ronaldo talk….sorry guys but there is a lesson in there for all of us. ManU sold its soul to foreign millionaires 3-4 years ago and is reaping the whirlwind…having to sell their greatest asset at 25 yrs old…long before peaking…because a millionaire-family, in collusion with the banks, leveraged up and spunked 350 million in debt on their books. This is precisely what many gooners have been advocating until a couple weeks ago when Liverpool’s insolvency became public news. In fact the rumbling among Arsenal’s directors over the past 5 year tells us there are some who want this future for our club. Now ManU, according to reports, is bidding for Wigan’s Valencia to replace the FIFA world player of the year. Duh! Tell me whether I am writing this in a dream!
By: shotta-gunna on June 12, 2009
at 7:51 pm
Very true Shotta. In our case, if a new buyer were to buy us with debt and load it up on the 260 million pound debt for the stadium that we already have, it will be a complete disaster. On the other hand, none of our director’s are rich enough to buy us outright with their own equity. It would take 700 odd million pounds of equity investment and that is beyond the realm of possibility for our current directors.
All we can hope for then is a multiple ownership model for our club with self sustaining operations and over time, dividend payments to shareholders once the stadium debt has come down and the Highbury flats are completely sold.
By: Alex on June 12, 2009
at 8:02 pm
Shotta-gunna, I think this is more an issue of the star player not being rooted to their club. He is portuguese and no doubt he idolised real as a boy. We will face the same issue with Cesc in time. His natural home is Barca.
I don’t believe it is a money issue with Man U to be honest, they are able to meet their interest payments.
Still, no, we don’t want the billionaire benefactor model, because, at the end the day, you become indebted to some billionaire until they eventually sell out.
By: Muppet on June 12, 2009
at 8:05 pm
PTL \o/
By: perrygroves on June 12, 2009
at 8:07 pm
We’ll also face the same issue with Adebayor. His natural home is Sporting Club de Lomé.
By: Poliziano on June 12, 2009
at 8:14 pm
Muppet, are you saying a player will always want to go to the club he supported as a youth?
Man U has been much more successful than RM over the past few years so what’s the point? just to say I played for Real?
Cesc as much as he loves Barca seems like he really wants to get things done at Arsenal, thats what he says at least.
By: Paul N on June 12, 2009
at 8:21 pm
Paul N,
No. It’s more a cultural issue. We don’t see many italian superstars over here, not in their prime anyway, because they have everything in italy.
The reverse was true for british players going abroad. In the 80s and 90s the italian league was very strong and full of foreign superstars. The only major british players that went there were Rush, Souness, Platt and Ince. Rush only lasted a year. (Brady went in 1980 as you may know, but he was an exception). Oh yes, Gascoigne went, and was a disaster. I don’t know why he went to be honest.
As I say, I think for some footballers, they are rooted to their club and will always stay at their club. The idea that we could pluck, say, a youngster from Milan, who grew up idolising Milan and keep him at Arsenal indefinitely is a bit optimistic.
By: Muppet on June 12, 2009
at 8:32 pm
The lesser one is completely different from Fabregas, because Fabregas feels loyalty towards Arsenal, which the lesser one never felt towards man utd, or perhaps to anyone or anything.
By: Poliziano on June 12, 2009
at 8:44 pm
I see where you are coming from.
I hope Cesc can cut the umbillical cord with Barca though, he is the only player at Arsenal who people think has such a strong tie.
Its a bit of a shame because it is obvious that many players idolized only a few teams in their youth (Barca, RM, Man U, AC Milan) and it is not good that a team should have to be lookin over their shoulder all the time because their best players have this soul tie.
By: Paul N on June 12, 2009
at 8:45 pm
The lesser one was certainly loyal towards Paris Hilton last night, or at least, one of his lesser base instincts.
By: Muppet on June 12, 2009
at 8:46 pm
PZ, thats is what I get from Ronaldo. He seems a selfish individual who only had eyes for RM even though it is Man U who put faith in him.
As I said, Man U are a better team or atleast have been, also the PL is the best League in the world. I have a feeling things will not work out as expected at Real.
By: Paul N on June 12, 2009
at 8:48 pm
What happened at the Paris Hilton last night?
By: Poliziano on June 12, 2009
at 8:49 pm
It was open for business as usual.
By: Muppet on June 12, 2009
at 8:51 pm
“I don’t believe it is a money issue with Man U to be honest, they are able to meet their interest payments.”
Actually Muppet, I don’t think this is true. My understanding is that they cannot afford all the interest payments on their loans even with all the profits they make, to the extent that they roll up some of the interest into the debt so it has actually increased each year. As long as they keep winning the banks are not chasing them for the principal loans because the interest is so high they are making lots of money from them. There have also been a few well buried stories about their inability to pay some fairly minor debts to other clubs and non-banking creditors. But of course being man u, these do not garner the level of publicity they should.
By: Passenal on June 12, 2009
at 8:52 pm
oh boy!
Geez, I didnt here a thing about this here in the US
By: Paul N on June 12, 2009
at 8:54 pm
Well Passenal, if that’s the case, then I can well believe it. The Glazers came out tonight and claimed the decision was made by Ferguson alone. I guess that it would be in their interests to make this sort of claim, or at least to try to smother the financial reality of their situation viz-a-viz their fans, because otherwise they would have a rebellion on their hands.
By: Muppet on June 12, 2009
at 8:55 pm
Lol Muppet. Paris Hilton affected the namesake hotel chain’s image so much, their brand value apparently declined on the balance sheet before the hotel chain was sold by her dad. One can see why.
By: Alex on June 12, 2009
at 8:58 pm
Is Paris Hilton a person? What a bizarre name.
By: Poliziano on June 12, 2009
at 8:59 pm
Yes she is something else
By: Paul N on June 12, 2009
at 9:01 pm
Further to what Passenal said, for the last financial year ended June 30, Man U made a profit of 66 million pounds but the holding company of Man U made a loss of 44.8 million pounds.
The interest payments of 69 million and other payments were accounted for at the level of the holding company.
Man U are the worst possible example of a highly leveraged buyout draining the profits out of what once was Britain’s richest club by far. We have done well so far to resist a leveraged takeover and hopefully the premier league has learnt from the experience too and will prevent this from happening again. In the medium term, we have a big chance of becoming the the most financially secure club in the EPL and maybe even the world along with Barca.
By: Alex on June 12, 2009
at 9:04 pm
David Beckham keeps himself in good shape. What do you think, QoS? It’s interesting to compare him with Freddie Ljungberg. Freddie is more muscular, but Beckham is leaner. What does this say about the images of Calvin Klein and Armani?
By: Poliziano on June 12, 2009
at 9:04 pm
Yeah, PZ, you being an italian high brow and all that, you might not be aware of some of the lurid stories in the tabloids. The lesser one was clubbing in LA and appropriated the number of Paris Hilton, who apparently boasted that ‘he was the hottest thing she had ever seen’. If you wern’t aware, Paris Hilton is famous for being stinking rich and doing nothing but shop in Hollywood.
By: Muppet on June 12, 2009
at 9:05 pm
Am I to infer that a lot of men spend the night in the Paris Hilton?
By: Poliziano on June 12, 2009
at 9:05 pm
Whoever thinks the lesser one is “hot” must be blind.
By: Poliziano on June 12, 2009
at 9:09 pm
Yes. That would be an understatement.
By: Muppet on June 12, 2009
at 9:10 pm
She had a reality show with Lionel Richie’s daughter nicole, cant remember the name though.
By: Paul N on June 12, 2009
at 9:11 pm
ARSENAL!
By: Paul N on June 12, 2009
at 9:21 pm
Sorry I’m late to a debate that’s dead but I think after seeing Barca outplay United with a pressure game but above all, about the team and keeping the ball I think Fergie will want the same.
Of course he’ll looks to combine it with dynamism but a technical central midfielder will surely be on the list such as Moutinho. I think he’s realised it is more about the team than individuals but let the individuals shine within the system. The season gone, he let Ronaldo have too much influence in his thoughts.
By: The Brain on June 12, 2009
at 9:21 pm
He is an ugly bastard (no amount of hair-gel helps, lesser)…the filthy peasant…not even French-African..
She is an hotel open all night.
And, oh dear..i read the Daily Star back page!
By: ponyboy on June 12, 2009
at 9:24 pm
PZ – Atlast you have found a slut you can really trust…
By: ponyboy on June 12, 2009
at 9:24 pm
The Brain,
Why has Moutinho never been mooted in Arsenal circles. He looks like a good player. I assume he is a competent cental midfielder capabale of playing a holding role ?
By: Muppet on June 12, 2009
at 9:26 pm
Well, Ponyboy, are you an Armani man or a Calvin Klein man?
By: Poliziano on June 12, 2009
at 9:28 pm
From Wikipedia:
“[Moutinho] has been consistently linked with a transfer to the prestigious Everton Football Club.”
By: Poliziano on June 12, 2009
at 9:30 pm
PZ-
That is a question to disturb even normal people!
By: ponyboy on June 12, 2009
at 9:34 pm
Thanks Alex and Passenal for fleshing this out so our colleagues can better understand how precarious ManU’s financial situation has become, despite winning the league three (3) years on the trot….Most of us (yours truly included) have been too busy following our teams and getting into tittle-tattle with the trolls, to understand that football was part of the credit bubble….The Banks were willing to bankroll the clubs because it was believed they could make a bundle in interest earnings from an apparently never ending stream of EPL/Champion’s league revenue…Too many fans, like lemmings, were willing to jump behind the pied-piper because it was party-time in the transfer market…But it is becoming clearer that leveraging more debt on the clubs, facilitated by foreign owners and bankers, will eventually strangle the biggest of clubs…. Banks are now in a weaker position following trillions in losses, many are now state-owned, and cannot justify additional debt if existing interest payments are not met…To report further Non Performing Loans, requiring more capital to continue operations, is to either see a Bank’s stock bing hammered or the Govt asking the current Senior Mgt to walk the plank…Until fans demand that the FA walk away from its incestuous relationship with the millionaires and the mega-banks, begin looking out for the long term health of the clubs by adopting Bundesliga type regulations governing club ownership and finances, I am afraid that sooner rather later the landscape of British football will be dreary and desolate with the loss of many great clubs.
By: shotta-gunna on June 12, 2009
at 9:38 pm
Moutinho’s competent in the holding role but it wouldn’t be his strength. I have doubts about him actually playing as the main creator but for United in front of Carrick it would be a good partnership.
We have Fabregas who is better at both roles in my view over Moutinho. Overall a good player, but one that commands to big a price tag at the moment for us to give him more than a look at.
By: The Brain on June 12, 2009
at 9:41 pm
Why is the question disturbing, Ponyboy?
By: Poliziano on June 12, 2009
at 9:45 pm
Sadly, I suspect Freddie would prefer you to me, Pol.
By: Queen of Suburbia on June 12, 2009
at 9:53 pm
QoS,
It’s unlikely that anyone would prefer me to you.
By: Poliziano on June 12, 2009
at 10:04 pm
I heard Freddie was a ladies man, no?
He does have a high pitch voice but so does Mike Tyson.
By: Paul N on June 12, 2009
at 10:22 pm
Well… i buy my pants from cheap shops – and, yes, Freddie is a hunky man. Must i explain my shyness to all and sundry ?
QoS may even read this.. Sleeping naked tonight..purely a protest vote..
By: ponyboy on June 12, 2009
at 10:27 pm
Kelsea
How is life in the Sol?
By: 1number10 on June 12, 2009
at 10:30 pm
I was only asking which you preferred, not which you wear.
By: Poliziano on June 12, 2009
at 10:34 pm
Is the weekend here yet?
By: Gunner4Ever on June 13, 2009
at 12:11 am
It is G4E, but sadly no football.
By: Muppet on June 13, 2009
at 12:13 am
Paul – he may well be…..as well.
Seems to me that its awfully smart to give oneself options.
By: Queen of Suburbia on June 13, 2009
at 12:34 am
options?
By: Paul N on June 13, 2009
at 1:24 am
[...] Ronaldo Deal – Good Or Bad For Arsenal? The reported £80m bid for Cristiano Ronaldo is probably the least surprising piece of transfer business this summer. [...] [...]
By: Top Posts « WordPress.com on June 13, 2009
at 1:57 am
I know Muppet, not watching Arsenal every week sucks.
By: Gunner4Ever on June 13, 2009
at 8:10 am
Official: Arsenal Swoop For FC Zurich Starlet Martin Angha
The youngster has been signed on a schoolboy contract which will become a scholarship on his 16th birthday.
YOU’RE KILLING US ARSENE. STOP BUYING YOUNGSTERS!!!!!!
Can’t you see we need super stars?!?! Take out that cheque book so we have something to talk about. Or else we’ll talk about cricket!!!
By: Ateeb on June 13, 2009
at 8:51 am
options as in – my best friend saw him with a guy at the US grand prix a few years ago but that doesn’t neccesarily mean that he isn’t also a ladies man.
By: Queen of Suburbia on June 13, 2009
at 8:54 am
G4E-Muppet,
I can deal with the weekend if there is no football. But signings like these ruin my days. How will that signing help us win trophies NOW!??! We need something for NOW. We’ll probably never see this player playing for the first team. And if he does, ever make it, it will be 10 years from now. What good is it for us? Especially for the season ticket holder’s who have been going for 50-60 years, and probably don’t have much time to live anymore. DO IT FOR THEM ARSENE!!!!
By: Ateeb on June 13, 2009
at 8:56 am
Of course Freddies sexuality is none of our business, but if Wenger would buy some superstars we’d have soemthing more interesting to talk about!
By: Queen of Suburbia on June 13, 2009
at 8:56 am
INTERNAL BLOGS MEMO:
All of you need to mention that EVEN Bergkhamp can see that we need to bring in players. Spend big, and get Yaya. Stop being cheap with both Yaya and Sakho. Also we signed another youngster, create fuss about that.
HQ
By: The Doomers Family on June 13, 2009
at 9:11 am
MEMO
To: Doomers Family HQ
Title: Saturday Progress
Missions are a go. Charlie Boy and Donald Duck well positioned in enemy camp. Misinformation spreading to good effect. Doom Flu virus concentrating in key areas. AKB support wilting.
Await further instructions.
By: Muppet on June 13, 2009
at 9:44 am
Maybe Freddie has a friend, QoS. Between English male friends, the most intimate contact is likely to be a hefty wallop on the back. In many countries, however, men permit themselves a greater range of expression.
By: Poliziano on June 13, 2009
at 9:53 am
True, but by Matt’s account they were quite clearly “together”.
By: Queen of Suburbia on June 13, 2009
at 10:14 am
Matt is your best friend?
By: Poliziano on June 13, 2009
at 10:19 am
To DOOMERS HQ
Memo : Operation Jelly Bean
Counterintelligence operations are proceeding smoothly. Forward listening posts, wire intercepts and observation balloons are in place to garner information. Secret communications base has been established at secret location. Codebook alteration in progress. Level 5 encryption now recommended. Double agent, codenamed Doom001, is well stationed in enemy camp. Awaits further instructions.
Over and out.
By: Muppet on June 13, 2009
at 10:31 am
Internal Blog Memo:
One of our spies has been caught. Recoup at local bases. And await further instructions. Use the article by the old lady, and hold back the doom for now. Agent Doom001, needs to stay put, though. And he can doom at sight, as the situation allows.
HQ
By: THe Doomer's Family on June 13, 2009
at 12:57 pm
To DOOMERS HQ,
Memo: Operation Jelly Bean
Roger that. Maintaining deep cover. Concentrating at the moment on sunny weather.
Over and out.
By: Muppet on June 13, 2009
at 2:45 pm
Internal Blog Memo:
This page, feels like a safe place to talk freely. Muppet, we’re running out of patience with agent C***. He is running out of ideas to spread the doom. He has been threatning us that, in case of no transfers he’s going to start dooming about cricket. His lack of intelligence was always an issue, but we enjoyed his guts to doom even at the sight of a good win. But with no football these day’s he’s been very anxious and agitated. I think agent lesser C*** ordep<< should write articles for a few days. Send agent C*** to mauritius, agent cartman's father owns a hotel there. Myles will take over the dooming for a while, on his behalf.
HQ
By: The Doomer's Family on June 13, 2009
at 3:52 pm
Internal Blog Memo:
This page, feels like a safe place to talk freely. Muppet, we’re running out of patience with agent ****. He is running out of ideas to spread the doom. He has been threatning us that, in case of no transfers he’s going to start dooming about cricket. His lack of intelligence was always an issue, but we enjoyed his guts to doom even at the sight of a good win. But with no football these day’s he’s been very anxious and agitated. I think agent lesser **** ordep<< should write articles for a few days. Send agent **** to mauritius, agent cartman's father owns a hotel there. Myles will take over the dooming for a while, on his behalf.
HQ
By: The Doomer's Family on June 13, 2009
at 3:56 pm
A different Matt! He’s an F1 journo.
By: Queen of Suburbia on June 13, 2009
at 4:05 pm
OH COME ON!!! Why isn’t my post appearing?
This feels like a safe place to think strategy about doom.
Queenie what are you doing here? There’s a high level Doomer meeting about to take place here, we’d advise you go to the next post. We know where you came from, but I think you’re over that place now. LOL. Just Kidding. YOu’re cool. Nice pic though.
By: The Doomer's Family on June 13, 2009
at 4:25 pm
Internal Blog Memo:
This page, feels like a safe place to talk freely. Muppet, we’re running out of patience with agent 002. He is running out of ideas to spread the doom. He has been threatning us that, in case of no transfers he’s going to start dooming about cricket. His lack of intelligence was always an issue, but we enjoyed his guts to doom even at the sight of a good win. But with no football these day’s he’s been very anxious and agitated. I think agent lesser agent 001 should write articles for a few days. Send agent 002 to mauritius, agent cartman’s father owns a hotel there. Myles will take over the dooming for a while, on his behalf.
HQ
By: The Doomer's Family on June 13, 2009
at 4:26 pm