I coulda been a lawyer, coulda been a king
I coulda been a doctor, or any damn thing
Instead I been the bearer of bad news
‘n’ I’m wearing out my welcome with the blues
- Sid Griffin, Wearing Out My Welcome With The Blues
Which is more or less how Arsene must be feeling this morning having told the world the extent of the damage to his captain’s knee following the legitimate challenge with Xabi Alonso in Sunday’s clash with Liverpool. The obvious reaction is one of despondency and I am sure it is not the Christmas present that Wenger would have wanted but probably the one he was expecting.
It puts him in a hole of a massive kind. With Rosicky, the most natural replacement in the squad, being out indefinitely, his options from within are sorely limited. I do not think that there was little doubt that he would have entered the transfer market in January, I believe he has no alternative but to do so now. Wenger hinted heavily that he would be dipping into the corporate pockets looking for some loose change:
Yes [I am more likely to buy], but we also have internal solutions so we are not desperate because of that. Now we have a big game in front of us and before January anyway I believe it is more important to focus on our games. At the moment no one is going out and no one is coming in. That gives you a perfect answer! And I don’t feel any need to speak about that [the Arshavin speculation] because at the moment that is not a realistic solution
It is not a commitment to signing someone, more an acknowledgement that the predicament probably requires that solution. It also heavily hints that the media and Fantasy Managers are barking up the wrong forest with Arshavin as being the ‘big’ signing. The £20m fee quoted by Zenit as being totally acceptable is also totally unrealistic. Little wonder that they say they would be happy
The squad in midfield is now threadbare. Youngsters such as Randall, Wilshere, Merida are fine for the odd game or gaining minutes here and there but none has the experience to become the fulcrum of the first XI. Nor for that matter can we rely on Nasri dropping into the centre as a ‘fix’ for the remainder of the season. Aside from still adjusting to English football, what happens if there is an injury? Denilson could take on the role but who covers for him if the worst-case scenario happens. Quite simply, the numbers are not there any more. A look at the list of absentees sums it up: Fabregas, Walcott, Rosicky. Three creative players. Three full internationals. There can be no reliance on untested players to compensate for them en masse.
Away from Cesc, Arsene has been incadescent in his criticism of Graham Poll’s comments that John Terry’s position as England captain influences referees. Little doubt that Poll was talking out of his Arsenal to a large degree but it shows more about his weakness as an official when he was in the game that he thought about such things. Don’t forget that this is a man who became a national embarrassment when issuing three yellow cards at Germany 2006, bringing into doubt the grasp he has of reality. That said, it is naive to believe that referees are not influenced by reputations. Wenger said:
For me it was embarrassing when you listen to that. They ask whether it was a sending-off or not. He says you have to consider that you are sending off the captain of the national team. What has that got to do with the rulebook…When you listen to that it is embarrassing for the referees. I do not think (they are talking reputations into account) but when I hear statements like that, it makes you change your mind
No doubt the parking pass for his disciplinary hearingis already winging its way to The Emirates. It also feeds the paranoia which permeates the club about officiating standards surrounding Arsenal matches. No, I do not believe that we suffer more harshly because of the players’ nationalities and to propose such arguments is preposterously xenophobic. Where Arsenal suffer most greatly is that the tackles which others ‘get away with’ are often viewed as being retaliatory when Arsenal players commit the same offences.
Anyway, not the brightest of Christmas Eve’s so enjoy the day. ’til Tomorrow.























Sorry YW – I don’t buy that retaliatory business, which I’ve seen proposed before. If an Arsenal player commits two fouls and gets booked for both of them but an opposition player fouls persistently and is given several warnings before being booked, I cannot see how there is any justification or surprise that people would question it.
Graham Poll has not shocked me by his revelation because the leniency towards England internationals is not a new phenomena and the agenda is pretty obvious. I’m only surprised that he would admit it so openly. It will be interesting to see whether the spotlight being shed on this practice leads to more consistent and transparent refereeing. I doubt it, because the hypocrisy of the FA knows no bounds.
By: Passenal on December 24, 2008
at 12:49 am
“Where Arsenal suffer most greatly is that the tackles which others ‘get away with’ are often viewed as being retaliatory”
yes but the question is: do others ‘get away with it’ more because they’r english, or from clubs that are more identifiable as english?
there is a very clear media spin on the way thies things are viewed, for example, claiming that keane performed a “great tackle” on clichy, and that he “got the ball” when he clearly went over the ball and culd have done some damage on another day (motd2)
i for one do believe this has something to do with the fact arsenal do not have many english players. what else could it be? its not as if this is never mentioned – “arsenal need to buy british” etc
By: davi on December 24, 2008
at 1:03 am
Graham Poll is finally amplifying audibly what’s been going on on the minds of some England bias referees like him, sometimes I wondered how players like John Terry and co could get away with some of the things they do to other players and referees on the pitch. Even Sky Sports pundits defend them vigorously and castigate foreign players for doing things not as bad. It’s very sad, shameful and really embarrassing that a FIFA graded referee, weather serving or retired could think like this, and yet we wonder why England players don’t make it outside England.
By: VP on December 24, 2008
at 1:18 am
I’m not paranoid, but they ARE out to get us.
YW
The fact that Poll reveals the way the FA react to correct decisions involving preferred players, cannot be glossed over.
It is cancerous and allows Howard, Ice Cream and others to justify THEIR xenophobic attitudes and affects us more than any other team.
Is it really only me or do we not get sh**ty end of the stick at very opportunity?
Vieira got a 6 game ban for spitting (at NEIL RUDDOCK!) Wenger consistently gets Draconian punishments, are they really in line with the treatment Ferguson and Man U get?
This is an insight into the way football is actually run and I think Wenger is exposing it as coyly as possible, to prevent any further persecution.
In any other environment there would be an outcry and investigation into Polls comments and the F.A.’s behaviour – especially regarding Terry.
By: Ian Dolent on December 24, 2008
at 1:26 am
Good points YW re the potential problem of further injuries. It is clear that AW went into the season with Nasri, Cesc, Denilson and Rosicky as his preferred midfield with Walcott likely to stand in for a short time until Rosicky was back. With Cesc, Rosicky and Walcott out for the long term and Nasri also being brittle this has been an injury nightmare. Cesc also missed some early season games.
I shudder to think what will happen if Denilson or Nasri get injuries. This will dictate the Jan transfer thinking. Interestingly with Denilson’s stong performances this year, and also a few from Song DM has not been a problem this year. The pundits simply looked at the preferred midfield (with Denilson) above and said that Denilson was the weak link. But it you compare his performances with the other DM’s in the league from the top teams he has been a standout. More tackles and interceptions than Mascherano, Alonso, Mikel and Carrick. Better passing stats (numbers and accuracy then all but Alonso and Mikel) and better figures on assists, and assist attempts (than all of them) which gives me some confidence that he will step up and be able to contribute more offensively (though clearly not at Cesc’s level).
By: jbh on December 24, 2008
at 2:24 am
I love cesc to death but the truth is that this year he had not played great. He was hurt early and played tired most of the year.
I wonder in a way, let’s call it a fool’s hope, if the team might step up without cesc there. While he was in the team the ball had to go to him and he slowed the game up. It’s his way and he is great at it. But maybe with him gone we will learn to play more direct.
The same happens when henry went out. It could. Maybe. Happen again. Perhaps diaby and denilson can play together while fab and diaby could not. Maybe vela starts playing ok the wing. You never know how dynamics of a team will work out.
Hope springs eternal. For Liverpool look crap and Chelsea as well and vidic is out in cl etc etc etc.
But still cesc. I wish you the best. Hurry up oh captain my captain!
By: nando on December 24, 2008
at 3:39 am
Cesc’s injury is a really bad day for us but we still have to support our players who come in to replace him. We still have some good players (we cannot change our squad till after the villa game anyway) so we need to get behind them and support them as ‘real’ fans would.
By: Steve on December 24, 2008
at 4:07 am
You cant be anymore wrong YW. I think you’ve got to have completely lost it if youre talking bout the same Arsenal FC club that is number 1 in the league 2 years in a row for fairness and proper conduct. Even still what would possess anyone to “retaliate” in such a disgraceful manner? After JT tackle on Sagna when he went two feet diving in…you have to wonder what else does the man have to do to merrit a red card. Fact. Arsenal has more foreign players. And fact. The refereeing is and has always been suspect against our foreign players. I mean this is undisputable. And finally someone has come out and spoken the truth.
By: A on December 24, 2008
at 6:04 am
Jamie, responding to your question to me and Frank from yesterday…I’m sure Frank is capable to respond for himself, but this is my response.
How long this transition will go on?
I don’t claim to know, but sometimes in our club’s history it took more than a decade to win a trophy…any trophy, let alone the premier league. We never bought a title or a trophy in our history and I’m proud of that more than buying one or two and be in debt for the rest of my life.
There is no way a club, any club in the world will build a 350 million stadium and not have a setback. With all that we still never lost our status as a top 4 club.
Simple life example: If you’re a $45K employee with no other resources, and you borrow $25K to buy a car, that will prevent you from doing anything significant until you pay off the car, unless you keep borrowing till you can’t afford to pay anymore and go bankrupt. It’s a known fact (Nothing I invented) You can’t borrow or spend more than you can afford to pay back.
Based on this Example, Arsenal & Arsene are doing a hell of good job to stay in the top four, competing with filthy rich people as I said earlier. It may not be huge strides ahead, but in these circumstances holding your top 4 position is an achievement on it’s own.
Do I want more, of course I do but as a reasonable person, I want it done the right way, I want it done wisely, I don’t want my club to do a Leeds United, and surely I don’t want it to fall in the hands of a filthy rich scum bag.
You may be entitled to want things now, regardless of how we get there. I like the way Arsenal & Arsene is doing it because it is the sensible way.
I always watch people who tailgate me while I’m driving..I give them way, and they speed past me in a flash, then I meet them in the next traffic light….I always wonder, what are they in a hurry for? Fast is not always good, you may end up in an accident and never get there. You as a baby had to crawl before you can walk, we’re in this stage, we crawl, we stand up, we fall, but what keeps us going is the encouragement and SUPPORT of our parents and family, that’s what Arsenal needs now.
Are you part of the family?
By: Gunner4Ever on December 24, 2008
at 7:52 am
where is frank ??? kidnapped by the traits??
By: santino on December 24, 2008
at 8:14 am
i mean the ‘traitors’
By: santino on December 24, 2008
at 8:15 am
Good comments from you Ian, VP,davi,passenal, jbn, G4E. I definitely agree there is a refereeing and pundit bias against Arsenal but it is not exclusive. Last season the referee allowed Kevin Nolan and Bolton to make such awful tackles on Man U at Bolton that one had to close his eyes everytime Nolan went in. No red cards ever materialised and Bolton were praised for putting one over the big boys and being so committed to tackling.
The FA once again is showing itself to be an inconsistent toothless bulldog and once again lets itself own.Transparency is good but consistency in decisions an punishments would be even better .
Tackles are allowed to be metted out on Arsenal players and allowed to run becoz of the belief that Arsenal are “too soft”. The pundits are always glorifying these tackles and suggesting Arsenal players are like women and need to “toughen up”.Other teams have caught on to this and regualry put the boot in.This was clearly illustrtated in our last home game with Chelsea were John Terry made a two footed lunge at Fabregas and nearly took his legs off but stayed on the pitch. Eboue made a lesser tackle were he left his studs in that became overanalyzed more than the potential leg breaker previous to Eboues. Now I might be being paranoid but the pundits and media are as partisan as it comes and take sides too easily.It is sickneing to here them Describe all these hack merchsants at Stoke, Bolton and others as good tacklers and hearing how they are not nasty palyers.
Dont even get me started on the Eduardo tackle at Birmingham. Where all the media and pundits were concerend at how it wasnt in the tacklers nature and he had not meant to hurt Eduardo?Hello!We all still have nightmares about that tackle.Now could you imagine if Eboue had made that tackle on Wayne Rooney.Then you would see just how biased the media an punits were, Out would come Arsenals awful disciplinary record and yet another player in Wengers reign red carded..
By: Gooner4Life on December 24, 2008
at 9:00 am
G4E,
I hear what you’re saying, and agree with the principle but think you’re wrong.
It’s more pure principle than that. Arsenal have decided that they need to compete on something other than “spending big”.
From a game theory, or business strategy perspective this is brilliant. The reason is that “spending big” is a race for the bottom. No team has any unique ability to “spend big”. In fact, all of the big 4 plus the Tottenhams, Man Citys of this world can spend big. Only one can win the championship. So why not try to leverage what has historically been Arsene’s strength; the ability to assemble high-quality squads for less.
If it was about spending big, and if that’s the ultimate or long run solution (which it is), Arsenal are in any case better placed right now, than the likes of Chelski, the Yank Mancs, and the Bank collateral at Merseyside.
We have so much less debt and so we could just spend £600M in 3 years, and we’d still have much less debt than the other three.
But that model is fundamentally unsustainable, and will collapse by itself sooner rather than later. In which case, all Arsenal have to do is to weather the onslaught till it does.
By: Ole Gunner on December 24, 2008
at 9:08 am
Ole.
Great analysis. It’s been said before in many ways but you have summed it up very nicely.
GFE. It’s an interesting point asto how much money Arsenal actually has. I tend to agree with Ole that we could afford to spend if we wanted to but that is not the plan. Not Wenger’s mission.
Certainly the club are consistently bullish about funds. Thay repeat that the stadium does not impact on available money for the team nor that we are reliant in CL money.
With all the fans we have, with all the knowledge they have, it is telling that we still have no clear idea as to the financial situation that Arsenal are in.
By: Consolsbob on December 24, 2008
at 9:54 am
Looking at our fixture list, we don’t meet any of the big four till we play Liverpool on April 18, by which time it is conceivable we will have a fully fit squad. I believe the team we can field at the moment is better than any of the teams we meet before then. I reserve judgement on the others. The problem, as YW says, is the chance of further injuries. Minor injuries to the midfielders we still have available are almost certain, and that could leave us short, although we do have options.
Most of the transfer targets being suggested at the moment make me hope Wenger will keep his money in his pocket. Arteta and Scott Parker are Arseblogger’s suggestions. I can’t say they’re bad players, but a championship-winning team can’t be built from run-of-the-mill players from second rank sides. The quality of these suggestions seems to be diminishing. A few days ago, Arshavin and Teves were being suggested. I’ve already spoken about Arshavin. Tevez, I think, is an excellent player, and the only one at united I like; but he isn’t the kind of player from which we would most benefit at the moment.
By: Poliziano on December 24, 2008
at 10:01 am
how about bullard from fulham short term replacement for cesc,has got the experiance and scores goals and turns in a good performance every week and wouldnt cost to much,takes a wicked free kick all round skill
By: samui gooner on December 24, 2008
at 10:01 am
Ian,
Do not ever refer to me as racist or xenephobic and I do mean ever.
Please provide evidence of this – go through my posts and you will not see one such comment.
If I knew how to find you I would smack the **** out of you for this comment.
Get your facts straight before posting such shit.
By: Alex Ice Cream on December 24, 2008
at 10:03 am
Arteta isn’t “run of the mill”.
By: crafty bison on December 24, 2008
at 10:08 am
Consolsbob – and why should we know? Remember if we know, so will Arsenal’s rivals and you do not reveal your hand or it weakens your position.
I firmly believe that Arsene was going to buy at least one player in the January transfer window anyway. However, now that Cesc is injured everyone believes we need to buy so the prices will suddenly go up because it is a demand and supply business.
If we could give the impression as Arsene has tried to, that we will buy if we see something special but we’re not desperate, that strengthens our bargaining position. It’s basic business strategy. Why do you think Zenit are rubbing their hands hoping Arsenal will bid £20m for Arshavin? He is not worth that much money because the Russsian league is not one of the top leagues and he has only ever played half a season in CL. I’m not sure how he would fare in the PL and I suspect he might be inconsistent. For £20m you’d want to be a bit more confident about that.
By: Passenal on December 24, 2008
at 10:10 am
G4E – I have not read a better piece on the Arsenal model in a long time. I completely agree with you. I keep saying to myself that we are in transition and we are trying to keep ur heads above water and in the top 4 despite everyone else around us spending far more. Wenger has done an amazing job at this however there could and should be some vast improvements to the model. I really dont think the squad needs that much more to genuinely be a title contender. I think that is the trick that is being missed. In my eye we genuinely can have both the financial stability in paying off our new home and a title winning squad. As was said at the beggining of the season a couple of additions could have take this squad so much further. We could have been fighting amoungst the top 4 and our players would have the belief and confidence they really could do it. Instead we have been a little too tight on the purse strings and we could suffer from it. We are well off the pace, our captain and key player is out for 4 months and instead of the players thinking…we can still do this, I am worried their hope may be dashed.
This is why as G4E says:
You as a baby had to crawl before you can walk, we’re in this stage, we crawl, we stand up, we fall, but what keeps us going is the encouragement and SUPPORT of our parents and family, that’s what Arsenal needs now.
Are you part of the family?
Well said my friend!!!
By: Marcus Field on December 24, 2008
at 10:15 am
I can’t recall any xenophobic comments from AIC, and I assume that was a wind-up from Ian.
I think the bravado on this blog needs to be toned down. It’s reckless to threaten violence against a person one has never met.
By: Poliziano on December 24, 2008
at 10:19 am
I’m a frail old man myself, and I wouldn’t fancy a confrontation with any of the strapping young stud-muffins who post here.
By: Poliziano on December 24, 2008
at 10:25 am
Passenal.
I was not suggesteing that we should know, rather I was applauding the club’s astuteness.
Arshavin? No thanks. Arteta? Why not?
Poliziano. Nice comment. There is a bit too much aggression on this site from time to time. A shame. There is a lot of sense written here every day.
We can do without the macho garbage.
By: Consolsbob on December 24, 2008
at 10:27 am
Good intelligent posts this morning !
There would be a horrible irony about it, but how about getting Alonso (if we can?) – would still take a gamble on Arshavin, for half the price, along with some hard-working player.. Bullard, Arteta..sound ok. Dammit, we bought Silvestre..
AIC : Excuse the pedantry, but Xenophobia, from the Greek = Xenos – foreigner + Phobos – fear.. a Xenophobe is someone who is scared of foreigners.. Happy Christmas!
By: ponyboy on December 24, 2008
at 10:29 am
why not just let ramsey play? the more he play the better he gets.
and if wenger does get a player in to cover for fabregas, what will happen to the player once both fabregas and rosicky are back?
By: williamhill on December 24, 2008
at 10:40 am
Ice Cream,
Oh dear, touched a nerve did I?
I’d rather pull out all my fingernails than trawl through your posts.
To me you, Arse21 and Howard are just parts of a 3-headed monster that causes me to scroll down for dear life.
I guess only you would know if we can add prejudice to your characteristics of poisonous negativity and arrogance.
Though clearly we can add a propensity to violence or empty threats.
What a charmer you are.
By: Ian Dolent on December 24, 2008
at 10:41 am
We wont get Alonso now he is part of a title tipped squad at Liverpool, if they went into decline Benitez would be hung. Even if it had nothing to do with the sale of Alonso, that would be a key talking point. He will not be sold!!
Bullard yes…some grit in midfield would be good, in the right team I believe he would be very good….he is actually just what we need, we just should have got him in the summer!!
By: Marcus Field on December 24, 2008
at 10:43 am
Veloso….
Veloso.
By: Ole Gunner on December 24, 2008
at 10:43 am
G4E you are a star.
By: Muntazir on December 24, 2008
at 10:44 am
Alex Ice Cream – cool, smooth, and tasty.
By: Poliziano on December 24, 2008
at 10:48 am
Or should that be testy?
By: Poliziano on December 24, 2008
at 10:49 am
Or perhaps teste.
By: Poliziano on December 24, 2008
at 10:52 am
Ian,
I don’t care if you agree with me or not – its up to you. I don’t mind my posts being call poisonous or anything else -again its 100% up to you, its your opinion.
I do not take too kindly to accusations of racism or xenephobia however.
You also don’t see me accusing people of things they haven’t done ie spreading baseless lies about them.
Fortunately for you the threat was (of course) empty but I will not tolerate this nonsense from you or anyone else.
I think you missed out the word “accurate” when referring to my posts though. Don’t believe me? Just look at the league table.
By: Alex Ice Cream on December 24, 2008
at 10:53 am
He certainly gives the impression of having a huge pair of testis.
By: Poliziano on December 24, 2008
at 10:54 am
Poliziano,
Yes , a huge pair – slamming against his buttocks.
By: Ian Dolent on December 24, 2008
at 11:01 am
Oh, I should think AIC would be the big daddy.
By: Poliziano on December 24, 2008
at 11:05 am
In the cold light of morning, the loss of Fabregas is a huge blow!
However, and I’ve had the night to convince myself this, it is completely up to ourselves whether that blow is fatal! Position wise, 8 points off the lead, thru to the next round of the Champions League, comfortable against our main rivals and having achieved all this without full fitness or top form!
So we can fold or we can dust ourselves down and adapt! Our forthcoming fixtures are all games we can win! In fact if Fab had to be injured, well we have just had our toughest run! To adapt to life without our talisman, we need only look back at previous Wenger set ups. Often employing two more central defensive midfielders. Their game was not built round a patient playmaker but a torrid pressing game.
When that side was without chief playmakers Bergkamp and Pires, though you might be concerned, they often scored goals by pressing high up the pitch and stealing the ball far closer to goal! The high defensive line we have been using of late is far better served by high energy pressing from the whole side and can reap rich rewards!
The side is young and suited to this game!
Let’s not forget we still have Van Persie and Nasri, get them into the game in key areas and we will create and score!
Let’s keep the siege mentality, after all when Vieira was sent off from the pitch of our main contenders, we sensed the injustice and rallied to greatness!
We are where we are, we have to stay together and fight!
By: Danny on December 24, 2008
at 11:12 am
Ice Cream
“Fortunately for you the threat was (of course) empty but I will not tolerate this nonsense from you or anyone else.”
I notice you couldn’t help repeating your threat.
I also notice you are trying to attach some sort of credit to yourself regarding our current plight. Then you lose your tiny mind when people question whether you are really a supporter.
By: Ian Dolent on December 24, 2008
at 11:15 am
Ian,
I am merely responding to:
1. Your totally unfounded accusations of racism/xenephobia.
2. You attacking my posts – which I don’t mind about at all.
This has nothing to do with my loyalty to Arsenal.I have been worried for some months now about where we are going and I have voiced my concerns. Unfortunately, the way the season has gone so far merely underlines my concerns.
It does not diminish my loyalty as a supporter. I have criticised teams in the past (GG’s final teams spring to mind) but I am still a supporter.
I do not just take a naive, blinkered view if I think it does not reflect reality. I may be proven wrong -fine but my loyalty has never been in question.
By: Alex Ice Cream on December 24, 2008
at 11:21 am
Oh and would you tolerate people calling you racist or xenephobic?
By: Alex Ice Cream on December 24, 2008
at 11:22 am
I’m off to church to light a candle for no-more-injury of our team and cesc’s speedy recovery.
Merry christmas!!
By: ToughCookie on December 24, 2008
at 11:46 am
Yogi…
” Youngsters such as Randall, Wilshere, Merida are fine for the odd game or gaining minutes here and there…..”
methinks you sell them short – with Cesc’s injury this is a classic opportunity for one or more of them to step up and be transformed into a regular first team starter…
we are too wary of their youth…look at Rooney at 16 for Everton, Pato at 18 now for Milan…many others…they were given a chance to START…not get 15 minutes at the end off the bench…AW must have the guts to do this…
LJW is 17 over the holidays, he would be the one for me to start now – he’s a lot stronger than you think and has the greatest potential of all the babes…with Cesc gone his skills best fill the gap…then Ramsey or Merida, with Coquelin at DM…
this is no time for half measures…let’s try and turn a negative into something excitingly positive…
one last thing for fun…Bellamy for Bendnter…that would really make me smile…had enough of the the danish dandy, need his polar opposite!
Happy Holidays Yogi and thanks for a great blog!
By: Blazon on December 24, 2008
at 12:10 pm
Silent Night, Holy Night
By: Luke on December 24, 2008
at 12:38 pm
Feel like we need 3-4 (2 wingers, 1 CB, 1DM). I’d go nuts and spend “all” the money on Capel, Veloso, Zapata, Arshavin. or whoever else meets our standards. While we are at it we can pick up Kameini from Espanyol as well !!!
IN OUR FRIGGIN’ DREAMS!!!!
Arsene knows….but he better f**kin’ realize we are on the verge of imploding. Seriously, i LOVE & RESPECT HIS UNDERSTANDING OF ECONOMICS but we are ARSENAL Football Club man! We’ve been playing russian roulette for 3 seasons now sticking too much with youth development, not “over-paying” performing players (Flam),& letting go of vets (Pires, Gilberto) before their expiry dates. Its all been well and good not winning jack and remaining in the top 4 but the shit might finally hit the fan this season.
For those hoping the GED (Global Economic Downturn) will save torpedo the efforts of our competition, what a cop-out! We should be better because we play better, think smarter and COVER OUR ASSES IN CASE OF INJURIES!!!!!!! Arsene Wenger is making Ferguson look like a genius in this regard. I am so pissed off right now……..
Anyway get well soon Cesc and please don’t let what Arsene does (or doesn’t do) in January prompt you to leave us. We love & need u, ‘lil Catalan genius u.
(PS. put some pressure on AW & the board to buy Arshavin. We the fans are losing our glorious Gunner hard-ons fast!)
I forsee AW trying to get by with the “return” of Bischoff, Eduardo, Theo, Toure, & the ghost of Rosicky!
I STILL LOVE YOU ARSENE PLEASE GET US BACK ON TRACK BY MAKING THE BEST DECISIONS IN JANUARY and maybe we’ll finally win the Champions League Barcelona or no Barcelona!
GUNNERS FOR LIFE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
By: Aman on December 24, 2008
at 12:44 pm
Some folks just love to have a good challenge, a heated confrontation to elevate themselves above the ordinary. Or be put in the dock defending imaginary accusations.
Have yourself a merry little Christmas, all.
By: Luke on December 24, 2008
at 12:45 pm
Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear! (not you Luke)
By: Ian Dolent on December 24, 2008
at 3:02 pm
Consolsbob, sorry I misread your post (so easily done!), I thought you were suggesting we should know more about the club’s financial position.
I would be okay with Arteta, but would Everton be willing to sell? We were also linked a lot with Krancjar from Portsmouth last season, but I doubt if Tony would be selling although Portsmouth are strapped for cash. Mark Noble is another player Arsene has spoken of highly, but given his nationality he would come at a premium. It will be interesting to see what Arsene does.
Happy Christmas to you too Luke and Yogi and all Arsenal supporters on here, even the grouchy ones! It is the season of goodwill to all men after all!
By: Passenal on December 24, 2008
at 3:19 pm
There was a lot of speculation about Kranjcar in the summer, and a lot of fans seemed enthusiastic. I was surprised by that, as he had never caught my eye. I looked out for him in Euro 2008, but apart from missing a couple of open goals, he hardly did anything. For me, Arteta is a much better player. I have been impressed by him on occasions. Both players, though, have reached the top of their games. They won’t get any better. If we are going to buy mature players, we want outstanding ones.
By: Poliziano on December 24, 2008
at 3:48 pm
So now I don’t even write clearly Passenal!!
That’s it, I’m off to Legrove, they appreciate clear thinkers there!!
By: Consolsbob on December 24, 2008
at 3:54 pm
Just kidding.
By: Consolsbob on December 24, 2008
at 3:54 pm
I see everyone is in the festive mood.
til tommorow, yogi i hope you are not going to keep the kids waiting to open their presents untill you have written your article!
arteta and krancjar are not that much better then what we got already.
Happy christmas all.
By: dukeGoonem on December 24, 2008
at 4:08 pm
Signing Arshavin would be so un-Wenger like. I can`t see him being panicked into it.
I like Arteta but agree with Poliziano that he won`t get much better & he wouldn`t come cheap either.
Navas & Capel at Sevilla are an option (not played CL) but Reyes was similar & failed.
One thing is for sure – we`re going to be linked to dozens over the next five weeks
By: Paulie Walnuts on December 24, 2008
at 4:14 pm
Wikipedia: “Veloso is a Portuguese surname that means ‘hairy’.”
Doesn’t he play for Sporting Lisbon? If so, wouldn’t that mean he would be unavailable for Arsenal in the ECL? Or does it all start again with the knock-out rounds?
Don’t often agree with arseblogger but I think Arteta sounds a good idea – skilful, used to the Premiership, available in ECL.
Problem for Arsene now is that everyone will know he’s a bit desperate, so the prices will go up. Maybe we could get Tony Adams to buy him for Pompey and then sell him on?
Merry Christmas all – we celebrate today in DK.
Keep the (AW) faith!
By: dkgooner on December 24, 2008
at 4:33 pm
Paulie – I think Navas would be very much like Reyes in that he doesn’t want to move far from Sevilla (and his mummy).
By: dkgooner on December 24, 2008
at 4:36 pm
Well/ I can’t sit here all night waiting for a post,
I’ve got meat pies to make, a cake to decorate, presents to wrap and a bottle of wine that needs opening.
Doubt I’ll be here tomorrow. Can’t spend Christmas Day listening to a lot of old bores wittering on about the Greatest Team in the World. I can do that the rest of the year.
So, Yogi, fellow posters, Arsene and all Gooners everywhere, A Very Merry Christmas.
Up The Arsenal!!!
By: Consolsbob on December 24, 2008
at 5:27 pm
Marcus Field, I agree we are not far off and we need a couple of players. The problem is everybody knows we need a couple of players and they will mark up their players just for this fact. Arsene will never go for the obvious player, and will never pay 20 or even 15 million in Arshvin which I don’t believe he’s the answer to our problems.
Arteta is a good player but again, I’m sure Everton will mark him up, first because he has the PL experience, second because they know Arsenal need a player. So if the price is not right, we will never get him.
As Wenger said before, and mentioned by Passenal many times. With Arsenal & Arsene, buying a player has to be a three way thing.
*First and foremost, the player MUST have a great desire to come to us.
*Second the demands of the player’s current employer have to be reasonable.
*Third Arsene must “Believe” this player will add something to the team.
Very tough formula these days.
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As much as I’m gutted for Fabregas’ injury. I hope it will give him time to sit back, and get well and ready for next season’s real push for the title. It will also give the likes of Ramsey, Diaby, Denilson the real challenge to stand up and be counted.
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In any case, I wish all my friends who celebrate Christmas a very Merry One. May Santa drop some players in your stocking
(This Merry Christmas wish is for you too Paul N)
G4E
By: Gunner4Ever on December 24, 2008
at 5:34 pm
don’t we just need to resign Flamnin and Helb
By: simon on December 24, 2008
at 5:35 pm
“We are playing Russian Roulette”??? I don’t see how. We are the most stable, rational club in the premier league, and are doing quite well in football terms if you look at the broad picture, even if we are not having the best of seasons. A bit of luck with a couple of results and we could be almost top of the table! Oh well, people really don’t know what real misery is…
By: Non Edible Nacho on December 24, 2008
at 5:39 pm
the differnce in the last two seasons is Helb, the best thing Arsenal could do was to pay him a truck load of cash and put him in the central midfield role
By: simon on December 24, 2008
at 5:41 pm
We need to buy in the Jan transfer window, only a mad man would argue otherwise. One thing that does go in our favour is that there are several clubs in serious financial shit at the moment, may be we could take advantage of this (Assuming that the boards claims of available funds are true). The only club that seems to have a vast kitty available and looking to make major singings is Man City and what serious player is going to join them with the way things are going (unless wages are crazy!). We have in the past been seen as a club who can have players cherry picked by the giants of European football, maybe this time we can be the circling vultures.
By: Marc on December 24, 2008
at 5:44 pm
MULTI-MILLION BULLSHIT RECYCLING & REPACKAGING PLANT OPENS TODAY
A new multi-million pound facility, specialising in waste managment was opened today, in the vicinity of Fleet Street, in London.
The facility, which boasts cutting edge technology, is able to repackage and recycle bullshit, leaving zero carbon footprint.
Current materials science has improved to such an extent that newspaper is a prime candidate for recycling, particularly those that print bullshit, which is composed of a flexible molecule chain that can be transformed into many kinds of material. Candidates for this include:
- The Sun Newspaper
- The Daily Mirror Newspaper
- The News of the Screws Newspaper
- The Daily Mail Newspaper
Engineers at the waste cycling commented:
“There is tremendous bullshit recycling capacity with these particular newspapers. What we tend to see is the same rich material apparent in all of these papers, with very little variation.”
According to sources in Fleet Street, there will be no let up in bullshit production, and the recycling plant is welcome news:
“We produce this compound daily and we are glad that other organisations can take advantage of the material and use it to good effect”.
By: Muppet on December 24, 2008
at 5:46 pm
Good point about clubs being in financial dire straits and wanting to sell Marc. It works both ways though, even if they want to sell, would we be willing to part with a load of our hard earned cash in this kind of financial environment? The price still has to be right for a sale to go through.
People are committing suicide left & right for losing their life savings…etc…etc
I for one, not buying anything right now and keeping my hand in my pocket.
By: Gunner4Ever on December 24, 2008
at 5:57 pm
Flamnin and Helb… fine players both…
By: ponyboy on December 24, 2008
at 6:01 pm
Paulie W. – have a sneaking feeling he might though, because AW loves being unpredictable. As have said, i hope we do sign him – he just has the ‘feel’ of an Arsenal player.. super-talented..unknown, re: EPL, and intelligent on the ball. He’s not the “answer”…but would love to see him in the team..
By: ponyboy on December 24, 2008
at 6:06 pm
You dirty boy GFE!
By: Consolsbob on December 24, 2008
at 6:11 pm
hahahaha!! Nice one cb
By: ponyboy on December 24, 2008
at 6:27 pm
have a scary feeling that i’m a sad bastard, sitting alone in my room, laughing at blogs..
By: ponyboy on December 24, 2008
at 6:29 pm
Yep.
By: Consolsbob on December 24, 2008
at 6:34 pm
Not me of course, I have a wife in the kitchen and 5 grandchildren arriving in the morning. But you Ponyboy….
By: Consolsbob on December 24, 2008
at 6:42 pm
G4E,
Your three way transfer thingy shows just how hard it will be to get the right player(s) into the club in January.
I think we`ll get one but only if someone leaves will we get any more.
DKG – Good point about Navas but he could bring his Mummy with him.
Anyway, cheers to Yogi & all things Arsenal
Merry Christmas
By: Paulie Walnuts on December 24, 2008
at 6:44 pm
Hey Consolsbob, is GFE is me?
if yes, why am I a dirty boy? Is it because I’m being
Wenger-smart and keeping my hands in my pocket?
By: Gunner4Ever on December 24, 2008
at 6:55 pm
Well, if the cap fits GFE.
Pocket Billiards for Christmas is it?
By: Consolsbob on December 24, 2008
at 7:03 pm
Yes Paulie, I’m trying to get the three way thingy point across. Even if we want to get players, it’s not so easy for us. Don’t look at other clubs spending $20 to $32 million in a player who is not worth half of that.
By: Gunner4Ever on December 24, 2008
at 7:04 pm
Sorry, should be G4E. Doh!!
By: Consolsbob on December 24, 2008
at 7:04 pm
Well, since I’m not filthy rich….not even tidy rich
I got to keep my hands in my pockets or else.
By: Gunner4Ever on December 24, 2008
at 7:05 pm
Yes G4E.. both hands is it now ?
CB – thanks for the sympathy.. time to dust down some “Greatest ever Goals” DVD’s ?
( fact is, i’m tagged and curfewed atm…for a crime i didn’t commit, naturally) – but am hearing enjoyable arguments from around the area as the booze kicks in…. you learn to get, like G4E, your pleasures where you can.. Happy Xmas, bro !!
By: ponyboy on December 24, 2008
at 7:06 pm
Yep Ponyboy…both hands, nothing in the other pocket though…it’s just cold, plus it keeps me balanced…:)
By: Gunner4Ever on December 24, 2008
at 7:23 pm
A balanced football fan G4E? That’s about as likely as Ponyboy having a night out.
Again then.
A very Merry Christmas, lads and lasses.
By: Consolsbob on December 24, 2008
at 7:28 pm
vela
He has not been mention yet and I can’t undestand why. I think with fab gone you will see us play five in the midfield fairly often. Song denilson always in the middle. Diaby or van persie in the middle but higher up the pitch. And vela nasri or van persie out wide. Up top van p or ade. Maybe bentner once or twice.
By: nando on December 24, 2008
at 7:35 pm
I try to be Consolsbob, I try to be….but I’m no angel believe me
Only advantage I have over Ponyboy is that I don’t have any one to curfew me.
Merry Christmas to you and all Gooners around the world.
By: Gunner4Ever on December 24, 2008
at 7:37 pm
nando…you’re entitled to your sexual perversions, as is G4E… but both Ade and RvP up top and Bentner (sic) once or TWICE ???
That’s taking fantasy football to a new level..
And i’m sinking to my mental basement.. Actually, Ade is quite . No, i’ll stop there.
By: ponyboy on December 24, 2008
at 8:03 pm
I think the ladies like to be called ladettes these days.
By: Poliziano on December 24, 2008
at 8:22 pm
Sexual preversions?? I didn’t know putting your hand in your pocket is considered sexual preversions these days….I better not put my wallet in my back-pocket then.
And look where the comment is coming from? A Ponyboy?
By: Gunner4Ever on December 24, 2008
at 8:35 pm
Merry Xmas !!!
Paul N, NY Marcus, Mia…. get your asses back in here and start blogging….
Fingers crossed for Villa.
By: Muppet on December 24, 2008
at 8:36 pm
I bet you Cesc will recover sooner than estimated, God willing.
For 20million; I’ll prefer Ashley Young to Ashaven. Its now clear that our taste for foriegn average players is biting us now.
Bad officiating against the Arsenal because refrees see Aresnal as a foreign team.
By: Howard on December 24, 2008
at 9:21 pm
I have been calling for Vela to play on the wing for ages. What never ceases to amaze me is how often I have been shouted down. The main reason people state is that he is not a winger; even though, he played on the wing for most of last season while on loan to Osasuna.
It seems so obvious that Vela should play there; I can only assume that the word “Wing” is causing the difference of opinion.
I see Vela’s role for Arsenal as that of Henry’s at Barça who, as we know, is part of a three pronged attack: Henry on the left Etoo in the centre and Messi on the right. So to get where I am coming from just change the three names for Vela, Adebayor and RVP, simple!
Nasri, albeit an excellent talent, is not fast enough to play on the wing and it was no coincidence that from being anonymous out there last week against Liverpool he came to life when forced to move more centrally to help cover for the loss of Cesc.
Now, unfortunately or fortunately, injuries and suspensions are dictating that Wenger now has no choice but to play the speedy, goal hungry Mexican.
If we want fast flowing football we need our fastest most talented players on the pitch.
By: London on December 24, 2008
at 9:31 pm
Mind the Gap
By: Gunner4Ever on December 24, 2008
at 9:52 pm
Please
By: Muppet on December 24, 2008
at 9:53 pm
Merry Christmas Howard and London.
Merrier Christmas Gunner4Ever and Muppet.
By: Poliziano on December 24, 2008
at 10:05 pm
London – while I agree I’d love to see Vela as a winger, we don’t really play with wingers.
By: crafty bison on December 24, 2008
at 10:26 pm
Merry Christmas – Gooners all !!
& thanks YW for keeping us entertained, snarling at each other or not….
Great blog!!
Double the suppos’ tonight Ponyboy & I have a Turkey Greased Arse Double Bassoon (Franco/Germanic) for Frank to really get his message home, for the rest of the season !!
By: Flint McCullough on December 24, 2008
at 10:27 pm
Ho Ho Ho Poliziano
By: Muppet on December 24, 2008
at 10:28 pm
Merry Christmas Gooners!
I read the comments on more or less a daily basis and the majority of you make a lot of sense.
I think we shall see a different Arsenal against Villa, backs to the wall, without the luxury of knowing you have Cesc to create chances. I think we shall see a wonderful team display and Villa will be outplayed, out passed and outclassed.
By: arsenalvision on December 24, 2008
at 10:29 pm
Oh and on Vela,
I think the reason why we haven’t seen Vela on the wing is because Wenger doesn’t think he is physically strong enough for the Premier League at the moment, that is why we haven’t seen him much upfront let alone in midfield where he would come across more challenges.
By: arsenalvision on December 24, 2008
at 10:31 pm
London,
I think we all want Vela to be that potential winger. One wonders if the reason why Wenger hasn’t introduced him is not because he isn’t a stellar talent, but simply because of the physical side of the things. And before the ladies get excited, what I mean by that is penetration… damn.. I put my foot in it there.
By: Muppet on December 24, 2008
at 10:32 pm
Confucius says, “Man with hands in pockets feels cocky all day.
Merry Christmas to all the worlds Gooners.
By: Steve on December 24, 2008
at 10:41 pm
You put your foot in? Sounds painful.
By: Poliziano on December 24, 2008
at 10:54 pm
Happy Christmas & Yogi keep up the good work.
By: Marc on December 25, 2008
at 12:41 am
i like Ade. He has penetration, and uses his head.. will someone please moderate me ?
I woke up too early and grabbed a Bordeaux from the cellars, as one does.
Btw: Cesc, you looked frighteningly happy to be back in Barca… please NO!!! Not next year..
As i’m alone in the universe and my cell is yet to be padded, why would Ade have to watch the Villa game from home ? Am curious: Does a ban mean a ban from the ground ? Or is he just lazy ?
One more thing.. RvP – just watched his 18 best goals according to his Dutch friend.. Man, they are something else… had forgotten how good his free-kicks can be. Ok, passing out now..
By: ponyboy on December 25, 2008
at 4:19 am
A very Merry Christmas to you too Poliziano, Steve, Flint, Muppet, Vision, Passenal, FunGunner, TC, and Of course to Yogi’s Warrior with a BIG thank you for all the hard work to keep this blog running as one of the best, if not THE best.
This one is for you Frank:
Merry Christmas…..Click..Click…Click
Merry Christmas…..Click..Click…Click
Merry Christmas…..Click..Click…Click
G4E
By: Gunner4Ever on December 25, 2008
at 8:04 am
Merry Christmas Yogi’s Warrior. Thank you for providing this great service to Arsenal and its fans. The sobriety of your posts has made this by far the best Arsenal blog this season.
Merry Christmas to all the contributors to this blog.
By: Poliziano on December 25, 2008
at 9:17 am
Short Christmas for me I’m afraid….Lady Nina likes chestnut stuffing in her nosebag on Christmas Day…..but it makes her fart a lot, so I have to wear a mask…packed up the painted wagon, lots of new stock..just setting off for Veella…..really excited about this game…we can really do this…sorry to say this on Christmas day…but…f***ing cmon Arsenal…naaaah bit tame…I mean ….F***ING CMON ARSENAL….thats better…
ARSENAL ARSENAL ARSENAL ARSENAL
This is Highbury calling…this is Highbury calling …..all Arsenal supporters around the world…big game tomorrow…very big game……our boys have to play in front of 40,000 people who sound like Noddy Holder..not easy..but they can do it…..
Robin Van Persie…clickclickclick….Robin Van Persie…clickclickclick
Denilson….wowo….Dennniiilllssonn…wowowowo..he plays with Alex Song…. he really does..bilong…Dennniiilllssonn wowo…Dennniiilllson…wowowowo
Arsenal, Arsenal, Arsenal…clickclickclick…Arsenal, Arsenal, Arsenaaa all….clickclickclick…Arsenal, Arsenal, Arsenal…Arsenal…ARSENAL…..
Wan Arsene Wenger…theres only wan Arsene Wenger…Waannn Arsene Wweeenngggggeeerrr…theres only wan Arsene Weennggger.
Pheeppheeppheeppheeeepp….pheeppheeppheeppheeeepp
By: Frank on December 25, 2008
at 3:26 pm
i will bookmark it.
By: Vlasi on December 25, 2008
at 3:32 pm
Merry Christmas all!
By: Paul N on December 25, 2008
at 7:26 pm
Merry Christmas Paul N. Great to see you back.
By: Poliziano on December 25, 2008
at 7:31 pm