Posted by: Yogi's Warrior | July 10, 2008

Hleb Resolved, Bacary and Vela Talk Sense Whilst Others Toodle Off Or Drop In

The interminable saga of Alexander Hleb’s departure seems to be moving closer to its ponderous resolution with Marca reporting that Barcelona believe the player will reject the overtures of Bayern Munich for life in the Catalan capital. The deal will be for an initial €15m, rising to €18m, provided they do not screw everything up as has been their wont in recent seasons.

Bacary Sagna is reported to have an ‘exodus fear‘ in The Sun but reading a translation of what he said to L’Equipe but it turns out to be little of the sort. Talking of the possible departure of Emmanuel Adebayor and that of Flamini, he said,

It is a shame that Flamini left because he was an important part of our midfield. And it will be a big loss to us if Emmanuel goes, even though we have not yet arrived at that stage for certain. These things happen in football. But the uncertainty is all part of the game so I am not too worried

It is a pity that others cannot be so phelgmatic about the summer so far. The comments have been sensationalised on television to highlight a crisis that does not exist. Indeed, Sagna is optimistic about the squad,

Samir Nasri is due to join us soon and there are a lot of good youngsters coming through who could be thrown in at the deep end

It is good to see that he has confidence in the rest of the squad but more tellingly, indicative that the players do not know who Arsene is looking to sign. Sagna is realistic about the future,

The fact that I have just extended my agreement is not especially important. Most of the players who move clubs are under contract

This is being construed as him considering his future when it is nothing of the sort. It is a recognition that on both sides - clubs and players - contracts mean very little. Indeed when the FIFA President believes that the contracts footballers sign are the equivalent of ‘modern slavery‘, perhaps it is right to question their existence at all, letting the players play for one club this week, another next, bringing the prophecy of ‘Jon Stark, Football Mercenary‘ true.

Back to Arsenal. Sagna does not want to set targets, to put the team under more pressure and expectation that follows any public pronouncements about the title,

There is no point in planning ahead for next March because we cannot be certain that we will still be in the hunt for the title by then. Obviously we all have regrets about last season and are hoping to improve on third place. But we need to learn those lessons and that is why I don’t think it is a good idea to set ourselves a definite target for the new season

There should be no interpretation that he does not believe the title is attainable. It seems to me that he wants to avoid hype and the ensuing expectation. If that is the way he thinks, then so be it and it is sensible from that perspective. He should be under no illusion though that most supporters believe the title is achievable given the opening six or seven months of last term.
Carlos Vela meanwhile is displaying the ‘can do’ attitude that signals his intent to succeed,

I’ve always considered the best leagues in the world are the Spanish and the English ones,” Vela told Marca. “Having been able to play in Spain has been a very good experience, I learnt a lot. The truth is that I know very little English. Only a few words, but not a lot. I’ll need to learn there. When you need something you learn it pretty quickly

I suppose some may question why he has not learnt more already but then you and he might have a different definition of the phrase ‘not a lot‘. The important thing is he adapts to English football quickly for an unnecessarily high weight of expectation is building around him.

It seems that Gilberto is off to Panathinaikos with his representatives travelling to Athens to sort out the personal terms. Apparently it is with Arsene’s blessing for the player’s loyalty. Personally, I would be sad to see him leave in that he brings experience to the squad in midfield, a rare commodity in the defensive role. However, Flamini stepped up to the plate last season with minimal fuss and not much more than two full seasons worth of games under his belt so perhaps the next incumbent can do the same successfully. Incoming now for £8m is Colombian Radamel Falcao who apparently has scored 38 times in 58 games for River Plate in Argentina.

’til Tomorrow.

Responses

Sorry to see Hleb go - but big hopes for Nasri.

Can you calrify the comment on Falcao?

PS Vieira, Bobby, Wrighty and Seaman above the great left foot in Arsenal greats - who are these voters?!

Johan

He’s the next big signing apparently…

YW

With Flamini gone and Gilberto now leaving as well, Arsene must have a player lined up for CM. Otherwise we are left Cesc, Diaby, Denilson and Ramsey and thereafter Lansbury and Randall.

No doubting Diaby and Denilson have a lot of potential but it’s hard to see them performing consistently for a whole season alongside Cesc.

Johan

Don’t forget Brady is two generations of Arsenal fans ago now. Had the poll been run a decade ago, he might well have been in the running for winning it.

The ones you name have their merits for their positions. If there is a creative central midfielder above Brady then I will be stunned.

YW

Well written as per usual.

Trust the press to put a twist to it as far as its an arsenal related story, it must be that sagna sees crises… there is nothing like intelligently and objectively giving an over view as far as they are concerned.

I am the players are concentrating on improving on third position, which implies they can only be first or second to have improved… first being the best option of course

YW, is that signing definitive or apparent? can we be clear on that please?

TopGunP, i think Diaby did prove in that CC final a few years back that he can do a job in the middle and was actually missed when he had to go off.

Am truly sad to see Hleb go…. he his one of my favorite lplayers and i cannot see much wrong that he did…

I still think English footy was not appreciative enough of his talent… to me, he is a big loss

seamen at no 8 …arsenal website is a joke.i heard they were making a new one..and why cant they come out and reject silly rumours like manure site

do you think the site just has a right to reject rumours if not authorised to do so?

I shall now refer to Sagna as ‘Jane’ Austen for his Sense and Sensibility.

Team Spirit, agreed Diaby was awesome in that match but he was actually playing from the left wing with Denilson and Cesc in the middle.

You can point to good performances from both players but neither has produced consistently (i know neither has really had a chance to) but even by Arsene’s standards it’d be a huge gamble. Basically take Cesc out and we’re left with Diaby, Denilson and Ramsey.

I wonder what Lassana Diarra must be thinking now…..

Arsenal do occasionally reject rumours but do not even comment when transfers are done until the paperwork is completed. If they did comment on all of the rumours, any genuine information about the club would lost in a welter of denials.

YW

Falcao is quality. I reckon that he would be better than Ade. Better touch, better finisher, two footed, good in the air, shoots outside of box, pace and links up play…

I wouldn’t be upset to see him come here.

Yogi, top six, by a process of elimination are
Thierry, Tony, Dennis, Patrick, Bobby, Wrighty (and i’m guessing at that order - although demographics of voters might push Tony down - and Gladiators might push Wrighty up….)

I can not wait for this transfer market madness to end , I am beginning some bastards are playing the sun and co to write rubbish about Arsenal to disturb the team’s plans

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Diarra will have huge regrets, you can hear him ranting and moaning in the media that hes glad to get away, but really we all know he is a loser and a waste of talent. If he had the right mentality and was patient he would have got alot more playing time, and now will be looking to partner Cesc, his loss at the end of the day.

I really hope Diaby can step up, hes an amazingly gifted player lets not forget. CM is his preffered position and was looking like the real deal when being dubbed the new Vieira untill his injury of course. I think Wenger gave him time on the wing to ensure he didnt get another serious injury and now we are ready to put him back in the middle.

Still i think we could need another midfield option with a bit of steel like Flamini gave us. These players dont cost alot, and a player like this will compliment the technicaly gifted players we have already. So HLEB & ADE are greedy bastads, let them go waste their footballing careers earning big dosh regretting the day they left Arsenal like all the rest. Paves the way for a new striker.. nobody liked Ade anyway!!.. happy retirement, because after a few games of frustration at Barca he wont be playing much anyway.

Why now for Arsenal. Lets us stop this mass exodus. Painfull to see Hleb moving to Nou camp! Prof. please we really trust you when it comes to transfer market…bring a strong holding mildfielder to partner Fabby, an influential playmaker to combine with a lethal(RvP) to convert those chances into goals. I trust in your young squad.

Yogi Why have you forgotten Song? he started to improve at Charlton then was excellent in the Carling cup, and was one of the best players at ANC he put Essien in the shade, and after recovering from injury had some good games for us at the end of the season. He can play CB and DM and should take Gilbertos place

Since when is marca or any tabloid a reliable source.
With the hleb fiaso the other day, and the gallas attacks arsenal bullshit as well as freddie supposed attack on the club - its a wonder u guys actually believe there is a word of truth in the papers.

I am happy for there to be movements at last with Hleb, Ade and Gilberto. Its important wenger knows where he is, what he needs and how much money he has. when the deals are still up in the air, things are never sure, so to add some certainty to these players situations is good. Only when these deals are done can we expect to see a player like Falcao signed.

I still see Diaby as Cesc’s replacement, not partner. Denilson often does partner cesc, but I honestly dont see him as the first choice DM from August. He also seems a little injury prone. who else is there - 17 year old Ramsey, again I dont see wenger going for the title trusting a 17 year old boy - he needs a year or more to bed in. Johan Djourou is the other one. Is he good enough under pressure in tight spaces? this is vital in the prem. can he shoot and generally look like a midfielder? I have my doubts and he has hardly played there for us before so wenger wont go with him to start with for certain. Its a bit like Fergie putting O’shea in united’s midfield - yes he can do it, but he’s not the player you’d want in there out of choice, he wont scare anyone.
It all points to a new player being brought in.

i’m starting not to trust sagna. can wenger put a little faith in hoyte. consistency developes a player…. Klebs’ a Krap. and falcao’s just a dream.

It is TRULY SAD that things turned out the way it did at Arsenal for Gilberto!! He has been a true professional and a humble and loyal servant of the club despite such difficulty he faced in the later seasons.

I will always remember his awesome contribution to our run in the 2006 Champions league. He was the main reason we got to the final and even though we fell short, the way in which he shut out the then, “unstoppable” Ronaldinho in the final is forever etched in my memory. Ronaldinho was made to look like a pedestrian by Gilberto!!

And of course one of the most heartbreaking and MOVING images in Arsenal history, that fleeting image, post the final, of Gilberto, drenched in sweat from his efforts, biting his nails still bring out strong emotions in me as an arsenal fan.

I hope all our fans give him a rousing send-off for the truly admirable way he has conducted himself as an Arsenal player!!

Thank you Berto! All the very best!!

Sol

I have not mentioned Song for the simple reason that trying to guess Arsene’s thoughts on players and tactics is a fruitless pursuit. After all, he seems to be the only one who was convinced that Diaby was a left sided midfielder…

YW

solgooner, wenger said in May he would be using Song as a defender and that he thinks he cannot manage the midfield position full time ie he indicated that he can play there if absolutely necessary but he wants him as a centre back first and foremost.

Hats off to Gilberto, a truly loyal servant to the club.

Its a shame that so many modern players do not act in the same dignified way as this guy.

Thanks for the service ‘the invisible wall’.

Falcao?? LOL - dont hold your breath waiting for him to sign chaps!

Players who leave Arsenal without Wenger’s bleesings go to ruin their carrers.Look at Edu, he was a fantastic player who had already broken into the Brazilian national team but where is he now.
No Arsenal follower shoud worry about any player leaving the club.
Wenger can turn anything into GOLD. Who knows may Diaby,Song or Denilson will be the next big thing at the Emirates.

Big Johan!!

Let us not worry too much about the Arsenal.com poll. Its an absolute fiasco!! Mate, NICHOLAS ANELKA has come 15 places ahead of Alex James, do you think it has much credibility after that??

I am a fan of Bobby but he cant be anywhere near the top 10 in arsenal history in my opinion. Man, If the poll has to save itself from being a complete joke, RODDERS has to be No. 1!!

What do you say??

ARSLAN - “seamen at no 8 …arsenal website is a joke.i heard they were making a new one..and why cant they come out and reject silly rumours like manure site”

I prefer Arsenal’s silence on transfer issues until everything is done and dusted. Just look at the way United shot themselves in the foot over their “agreement” with Aaron Ramsey.

Gazzap is right, AW has gone on record that Song couldnt perform in CM for a full season because of his stamina. He made a similar comment about Kolo on the Arsene’s XI dvd.

Djourou is an interesting one, natrually defensive, good height and strength, i guess we’ll get an idea of where Arsene sees him during pre-season…

Unbelievable when a player like Ray kennedy cant get into the top 50. What sort of newbie retard voted in the first place? Kennedy not only scored the famous goal at the shithole in 71 securing the our first league title in many years but also scored the all important away goal at Anderlecht in the Fairs Cup Final. Yet Ashley Cole, Anelka and Steve Williams are deemed more worthy of a place than Ray. Fucking unbelievable.

question-
Often mentioned Arsenals wage bill is £90m similar to ManU - i wonder if the difference is that our £90m wage bill includes Arsene’s transfer budget whereas ManU’s £90m is for wages only, and transfer budget is separate?
Arsene has made a profit from transfer over the last 5 years - as always where is all the money?
How long will Arsenal fans continue to pay the highest prices whilst we struggle to hold players because of our wage ceiling?

TppGunPires, think about it.

Some years ago we paid 4 million for Denilson. Since then he has been gaining experience in the reserves. If this isn’t his time to be first choice, when will be? Spend, say, 7-8 million now on a new first-choice defensive midfielder and leave Denilson to rot (or gain further experience) in the reserves and his value will continue to fall until we sell him at a considerable loss. We’ve also just spent 5 million on Ramsey, who could take over the position in a couple of seasons, so leaving Denilson in limbo for any more years simply doesn’t make sense.

Don’t get me wrong. I share your feeling that Denilson in place of Flam makes us weaker. I just don’t share your view that we must buy a defensive midfielder - ‘must’ meaning ’should’, ‘must’ meaning ‘are certain to’ - not unless Wenger has already decided that Denilson won’t make the grade ever, in which case we’ll either sell him this window or loan him out somewhere in Italy or Spain to showcase him. (I don’t see him being loaned to an English club: he’s too skilful and quiet for the English taste and he wouldn’t get enough games.)

My choice would be Denilson and Diaby together in a 4-3-3, but most people here have said no. If they’re right, I predict Denilson will be the first choice - in the Gilberto mould - with Diaby as a back-up squad player most often filling in on the wing (which he won’t like). I’m not keen on this and far from confident, especially if Denilson gets injured early in the season and we have to play Diaby in the holding role, who will give us no defensive protection whatsoever, which means Cesc will be taking over the work… I’m just saying that, unless Wenger has spotted a defensive midfielder playing for a Sunday league in outer Mongolia, at a bargain price and too talented to resist, he won’t be buying.

Seaman great keeper but above Brady do me a favour.Brady had to be in the top 3.The most creative midfield player in Arsenals history.

And can everyone on this forum keep the noise down Helb is trying to sleep

Did we actually pay £4m for Denilson - I thought the figure was around $2m(dollars) could be wrong.
Also the Ramsey fee £5m - is it all payable upfront - also do you guys think its too much?

Fab4 … yeah you summed up that matter with a good example.

I followed db10 to arsenal about 1995 or 1996 so dont expect that someone like me know much about players in the past especially as i do not stay in england and hence do not get to watch many matches except on tv… Expect a supporter like me to vote DB10 as our best ever players… that is an opinion that i dont think is that far off anyway from all i have read of the past players

You older supporters should ahve taken the poll more serious and voted for your choice players

I’m just saying that, unless Wenger has spotted a defensive midfielder playing for a Sunday league in outer Mongolia, at a bargain price and too talented to resist, he won’t be buying….

Mia LOL

Is AW really that bad?

Arsenal website isnt a joke, we are lucky that some of the previous Arsenal greats have got a vote in.. most internet users are youngsters so the logic is there for all to see. We heard about the old arsenal players but we have been watching the new generations. The Bergkamp’s, the Seaman’s, the Adams’s them players, if the vote was carried out in 1980 or 1960 we will have a complete different outcome.

Plus, why should Arsenal.com come out dismiss transfer rumours everyday… why answer to all the crap we see in the papers and online? Arsenal.com publicate the truth when it happens, and not try to guess to get a few page views.

Arsenal.com is a useless piece of junk. Inane articles are their speciality. They are always the last to release news that has been broadcast across the globe. Try finding out about youth team games or the stats of youth team players, the youth league or anything about the youth accdemy. Its appalling. However look at the level of detail they have regarding the ladies set up. All stats and games have full write ups.You get everything except their bra sizes. Arsenal.com is crap.

YW… an aside, please put vital arsenal as one of your other arsenal sites… I go there often and its nice to be able to just click the link from here…

This was an interesting article i saw there yesterday…

http://www.arsenal.vitalfootball.co.uk/article.asp?a=507770

Dave

Maybe its useless to you because you look for all the crap you expect to read on the interent and Arsenal.com doesn’t provide that. All i use Arsenal.com for is looking at fixtures, player signings (when they happen!) and reading up on match reviews etc.. what more do you want exactly? because the rest is just a waste of time mate. Yes they can go into more detail in certain areas and provide a better acount of current affairs at the club like with transfers, but i dont expect to read crap on the official Arsenal website. (Apart from the top player list of course..haha)

Chris LOL

Even the top players list was not expected to be crap right?

BengalGooner. No. The wage bill is as reported in financial statements and thus by definition can not include transfers.

I think our wage bills are high cos we pay our younger players like traore and denilson and co more than many of the other top clubs and so the wage range is not that wide compared to other clubs; not sure hwat the figures are though

Mia, i appreciate your point. I didn’t necessarily state that it’d be an automatic first choice to come in and play alongside Cesc.

I rate Denilson highly, much more than Diaby. However to go in to a season with the current sqaud i.e without Gilberto, we look short of depth and experience in CM.

Bengal the wage bill was 70 million and that included signing bonus for Henry, Reyes, Lundberg. who have all gone.

The wage bill at 70 milion is a mystery as it is alleged Hleb,is on 35k a week as is Egobayor, and the only players on more are Gallas, and Cesc at 80k, and Cesc at 50k, the rest must be 35 or less so how it gets to 70 million is hard to work out, maybe Yogi or some other forensic accountant whos on this site can explain

Chrisgoona!!

I agree with you, the official site cannot come out everyday and respond to rumours. They have to remain a bit more dignified.

That said, I think they made a mistake about the greatest players poll. I would have liked them to have split Arsenal history into different decades and and let the fans, choose from each era. Then put them in order of influence on the club themselves.

Everything else is alright with Arsenal.com, but this recent poll is a farce, I have to say!!

Rosicky will be on a lot more than 35k and so will Kolo.

It’s also my understanding that Arsenal contracts have a lot of bonuses built in to them; appearance, goals, win etc.

I’m so sick of being a sellng club, why the hell cant we compete with the big boys anymore? Why the hell does Arsene give us such drivell? Why the hell does someone as crap as Adebeyor think he’s better then us? I’m sick of the club taking my money and taking the piss. Wenger must go and we must sel to the russian to stop everyone laughing at us

DBerg stop reading the tabloids! It was just the same rubbish last summer and we spent more weeks at the top of the table than anyone else last season.

For the record Usmanov is Uzbek not Russian and his only interest with Arsenal would be to flood us with debt and take out captial a la Glazer. Not to mention the fact that he is a thourghly unsavoury character.

http://www.goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=770823

I’m inclined to believe there could actually be some truth in this although i doubt we’d leave the guy on loan until 2009

Topgunpires!!

I dont think so, Milan are even reluctant to pay 30 million without the player. It wont happen, though I have heard that we were interested in that kid!!

I am very unhappy with Mclintocks comments, he always seemed pro Arsenal when commentating.

Frank McLintock, skipper of the 1970-71 ‘Double’ side, is worried about the long-term implications.

Speaking on TalkSport radio, he said: “I think he [Wenger] has done remarkably well with the money in front of him.
“But I felt Arsenal were up there with Manchester United, Chelsea and Liverpool, but they are a million miles away.”

Naga, their reluctance was £30M, this report is saying Euros so that would be around £24M.

I think AW has been interested in YG for quite awhile, thats why said i’m more inclined to believe this rumour could have some truth to it.

Wage bill more than £70m
These are the fugures from season 05/06

Top wage bills
Chelsea - £114m
Manchester Utd - £85m
Arsenal - £83m
Liverpool - £69m
Newcastle Utd - £52m

from link below,
http://www.worldsoccer.com/news/Premiership_wage_bill_tops_1billion_news_122223.html

Mia, the problem with players playing in the reserves is next season they will only play 18 games the whole season , and even if they play in a coupe of CC games they still get rusty

that would be a crazy deal. we get £24m plus a player that does not join for a year?! We cannot throw a year away. we need the player now. if its a loan deal, I dont understand why it cant be cut short. its not like Milan will own Gourcuff anymore, so the deal is null and void.

does anyone know why Gourcuff failed at AC Milan? was he given chances or not?

However, the story does seem believeable to me, but I dont know whether Gourcuff is really the player we need. Maybe wenger thinks rosicky will move on?

Bengal that was 05/06, 06/07 was less, so was first half 07/08, its still very high based on salaries quoted for our players

This top 50 is just a “silly season” farce, so it should be treated as such. I gave up any interest when Alex James, an absolute legend only just gets in. No Jack Kelsey or Peter (Stan) Simpson - ridiculous but not worth worrying about.

Good posts today & yesterday, YW.

You talked about morals.

I see that Blatter is now getting himself involved with that poor “slave” Ronaldo.

Apparently he should just be able to pay off his contract & walk away to the highest bidder. Now lets say his foot goes septic, from his recent operation & he cannot play, is he going to expect Man U to carry on paying him - you bet he will.

Contracts, in football terms, should be about protecting the interests of both parties.

Man U have invested a lot in his development, paying him obscene amounts of money.

Blatter seems quite content with blatant tapping up by the Latins but would he be quite so obliging if the situation was reversed.

This can only lead to complete anarchy in the transfer market, the players always on a merry go round.

Where will this take us?

I don’t know but I guess it is somewhere that most of us will not like.

This bubble, that football has been in for the last 10-15 years, can burst.

The wages and salaries will also include non-playing staff. Reasons why Arsenal might pay as much as United is that admin staff in London tend to earn more than their Northern counterparts and there may be more of them.

YW

Topgunpires!!

RIGHT!! But personally I would prefer Wenger playing hardball for the 30 million pounds as two clubs are vying for him and get a bit more experience into the squad!!

Totally disagree with you Dave - if you want rumor and innuendo there are countless sites out there to provide it for you. The official site is for reporting what is official, not unsubstantiated gossip.

Naga, give it a rest! On an almost daily basis we get your view on the current player poll, we get it, you don’t agree with the people who voted, but that is the nature of these things. The more recent players are more likely to be known by the type of people who are likely to vote. So there are a few thousand people out there who don’t think the same as you, the poll is a pretty meaningless distraction for the summer and maybe a few new comers will be educated by reading up on some past greats. What is so bad about that?

Point taken!! PASSENAL!!

Am I the only one that’s not worried?

Do you think that Wenger will sell players without having a plan of action?

We’ll be fine, this season we’ll collect 1 if not 2 trophies.

If not we’re in serious trouble. Wenger knows this season is make or break for him.

Naga,

I agree. This all inter-linked as far as I can see. Milan want Ade or Ronnie, Barca need to sell Ronnie or Eto’o to get Ade.

I imagine right now, neither can really afford him

Topgunpires!

Yes, and what annoys me most is that a club like Barca after unsettling our player, moan about US asking “too much” for the player. We simply must not give in to their demands. The spanish clubs have shamelessly done this to us for years, its time to take a stand, We have been TOO NICE to them for too long!! They either give us our valuation or its a no go!!

wengerball, yes wenger knows its make or break but you seem to be saying wenger will be trying harder for that reason. do you think he didn’t try his hardest in previous seasons then? I dont. I think wenger always tries his best, albeit on a limited budget.
Fact is wenger continues to have faith is certain players that the fans dont have faith in. sometimes they come up trumps but often they dont. One or two weaknesses can undermine a title attempt.
If wenger is given the money from Ade and Hleb sales, then thats quite a bit. lets see what wenger can do with £35m because he has never spent that sort of money before in one summer.
will he spend it on the defence, including DM? because thats where its needed.

wengerball

I’m so so so sick of people saying not to worry, and that ‘Arsene Knows’, its fricken ridiculus. He dont know shit anymore. Yeah we were top of the league for a long time but we al new are team had MAJOR weaknesses and wouldnt be able to last. Wenger uses us as his little project to see how well he can do on feck all money. Were supposed to be a BIG club for petes sake. I spend a hell of alot of money on arsenal and now I want change. Wenger IS our club now, if he leaves were in big, big trouble

DBerg, I’m all for freedom of speech and everybody has their own opinon but when you come out with phrases like, He (wenger) don’t know sh!t no more.

Well it just makes a mockery of anything else that you say…

I love the way they make out they have no money to spend, and as soon as Barca are ready to pay 30m AC are reportedly ready to offer the same plus a player?! Arsenal FC never sell cheap and they know it, does everyone really think we will let our top scorer go for a miminal fee just because thats all they can offer us..haha

If Ade does leave, which i think is inevitable now then i trust in wenger to bring in some one to replace him. At the moment we have lost lets say Flamini, Hleb, Ade, & Gilberto. Thats 1 exp def player, one creative player, 1 no non sense player and our goalscorer and leader of our frontline.

….That is a hell of a lot to replace, we have personnel who i believe maybe ready to fill the voids, and Wenger may have other people ready to fill the voids from within the club.

Ramsey, Vela & Nasri are already IN, so unless Wenger doesnt feel we need to replace Flamini i can only see 1 player coming in to replace Ade. Vela & Nasri cover for the loss of Hleb. Ramsey gives us extra option in CM, but who starts next to Cesc?.. and is our defensive problems solved?

DBerg you dont know shit mate.. lol

TopGunPires,

Exactly, your on of them rose tinted robots.

Answer the question or Sshhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

chris GOONA10

Yes are defensive problems are solved. Were going to play Walcot as our defensive midfielder.

How the feck can no one be worried.

SPEND ARSENE PLEASE……JUST TWENTY MILLION ON THREE PLAYERS……IS THAT TOO MUCH TO ASK

@DBerg

Maybe you know better than Wenger.

My bad.

Twenty million on who? name your three players

DBerg,

may I suggest a blog in which your worries will be whole-heartedly shared and cared for?

http://www.le-grove.co.uk

Chrisgoona!!

I agree with your concerns, But mate, in the current market scenario I am afraid the signings you proposed will bring our spending to around the 70 million mark!! If we get a good defender and a replacement for flamini, considering the current scenario, I will be satisfied. I think if we are short on cash them we can get by without the creative player and the striker!!!

Richard Dunne, Ben Haim, and DMF - I cant fricken believe we sold Diarra AND Flamini. The hardest and most important position on the pitch and we sell TWO quality players, un-fricken-believable

Richard Dunn - Do you really think city will sell him for less than $15m

Ben Haim - I’ll stick with what we have, thank you. unless he comes on a free.

that leave £5m for a good DMF who do you suggest?

Gilberto is the epitome of professionalism and all that is Arsenal. Long live the “invisible wall” - what a contrast of careers for Hleb and Gilberto as they presumably leave Arsenal - Gilberto will always remain in Arsenal fans hearts for his great service to the club. On the other hand Hleb will just be considered a passerby. he will be admired for his talent and resented for his unfulfilled potential and walking out at the time we need him most. lets see what he can do at the Camp Nou. When all is said and done, i still wish him the best of luck in his career because he was one of my favorites for this generation

DBerg,

I haven’t missed a home gome for 2 years so I think I have a fair idea of whats going on.

We didn’t “sell” Flamini, his contract was up and he left as is his right.

Go to Le Grove and find some like-minded dimwits.

Wengerball,

Haim would be a great signing. Dunne would be worth the money, if not search europe, that is what are scouts get paid vast sums of money for after all, but this time hey’d have money to spend.

Whats your plan for next season wengerball

TopGunPires,

Wengers lost it dude, get over it and take the rose specs off

Who would Dunne replace? Are you trying to tell me he is better than Kolo and Gallas?

TopGunPires,

I’m telling you we should have quality competition ll ove rthe park like the big clubs. A few injuries and were finished. Its fricken ridiculous.

How can you not see it?

“if not search europe, that is what are scouts get paid vast sums of money for after all”

That’s why I said, I am not worried.

“Do you think that Wenger will sell players without having a plan of action?”

We will get players, just like we got Hleb, Sagna and Eduardo.

I don’t have a plan, it’s not my job. You can bet Wenger and his team does, that’s their job.

Not a single one of us can claim to do better, if we could then we would be out there doing it.

DBerg

Ur attitude stinks, u say Wenger lost it yet everyone wrote us off last season and we almost managed to bring home a title???

u chat complete and utter shit, how do u manage to call urself an Arsenal supporter i dont know. Your all doom n gloom, find another site

Somebody like Dunne is not going to leave City to warm the bench.

“A few injuries and were finished”

…that goes for every club.

You guys need to wakeup, your like little wengerite robots, its funny

Give it a rest Dberg, it’s boring now.

Without a doubt, Wenger will have players in mind as replacements should players leave, and probably has anyway with regards to bringing people in.

Nobody has really made a major move in the the market yet, i expect things will start happening soon.

Ignore dberg — just another member of the AKN brigage (Arsene Knows Nothing). Anybody who says we should get Ben Haim (a player who NO top club is interested in) knows crap about football. I like Dunne but is he top club material? I don’t see Chelsea, Pool or MU (or even Villa or Everton) begging for him.

dberg, you can find likeminded hysterics, Wenger-haters and moaners like you are on le grove, you’ll enjoy yourself over there immensely. You can wallow in your misery and Wenger-trashing, throwing personal insults at him every single day repeatedly (hundreds of times every day), and show everyone how much better a manager you are than he is. Trust me, you’ll have a ball over there.

Anyway, Dunne just signed a new contract with City, so he’s no longer available. Chelsea just offloaded Ben Haim to some lower level club (can’t remember which one) and he’s signed a new contract with them, so he’s not available.

Arsenal did not sell Flamini, he left when his contract was up. Arsenal offered him a better contract with 60,000 a week but that wasn’t enuf for him, and he preferred the glamour of Milan (Flam is part Italian and grew up a Juve fan, he’s always wanted to play in Italy).

On other matters…

YET AGAIN, in the same damned week, the British press mistranslates and twists a foreign-language interview with one of our players. Now that the Euros are over and the Cronaldo story has gone quiet, their chosen target of sensationalism is us. Interesting priorities these cretins have.

Falcao to Arsenal?!?! Please Yogi, don’t make me hope!

Adeus, grande Gil! Obrigado por tudo — sua fidelidade, professionalismo, carinho, dedicacao e talento. I will miss Gilberto very very much, players like him are a dying breed. He’ll be joining Rivaldo in the Greek league — great place to go to play out your remaining football years.

Wow, this Ade-Gourcoff Milan deal is a big surprise! I know we’ve had so many false dawns but all week long I’ve felt that we’re about to REALLY (no, REALLY) hear something official very soon from the club. If you look at what’s happened in the transfer market in the PL, not a lot has actually happened, it’s not just us who’ve been quiet.

I didn’t expect much to happen soon after the Euros. However, enuf time has elapsed since the tournament and this week there’ve been rumblings of things starting to heat up.

NYmarcus

Ben Haim’s at Chelsea you football God you

dberg, you’re right — there were stories about Chelsea offloading him and I thought his transfer had been confirmed.

WENGER SACK SHOCK

Arsene Wenger was summarily dismissed by the board of directors at Arsenal football club today. According to reports he has been replaced by a spotty 17 year old, with no qualifications apart from expertise in the XBOX 360 Console and writing on Arsenal football blogs.

“We wanted a representative Arsenal fan”, said Peter Hill Wood, “Somebody who had their finger in the pulse”.

The 17 year old, confident and cocky, said that they would be making immediate signings for defensive midfielders:

“I will be squaring away with me mates on what defenders and midfielders we need. Ben Haim and Richard Dunne are in the frame. We know the club has at least 70 million to spend, and Arsene failed.”.

“After that, I’m going on holiday to Clacton and will buy a few Xbox 360 games. When I come back I’m gonna start driving lesssons”

Arsenal will be quite fine and Arsene will bring in the right players as he usually does. How on earth can we speculate to the degree of saying Wenger has lost it and doesnt know anything when the season hasnt even started yet, unless we are Nostradamus! Its unbelievable that anyone could disrespect one of the most important persons in Arsenal history. Hey I guess everyone is entitled to their opinion.

What I am rather confused about also is the Flamini replacement discussion, here is why.

Flamini replaced Gilberto, who many of us saw as the next Arsenal Captain. Who saw that coming? no one, I would say.

Well who in the current squad will do Flamini’s job?after all he was a tireless soldier as a DM, True! However we didnt even know Flamini could play Flamini’s position until last season! if you get my drift.

Denilson is not that type of player, neither Diaby, but neither was Flamini, so who to tell that one of these players will not be able to step up? Denilson I believe could tranform his game to fit the bill to me. He is not afraid at all but possesses 100 more times skill than Flamini. Why not!

Arsenal will be alright and the beauty of Arsenal is that it is based more on the team than individual players, so we will be alright!

God Bless!!!

Just to clarify Denilson’s position;

“When Denilson was signed on the transfer deadline last August the 18-year-old defensive midfielder’s arrival at Arsenal for a reported £3.5m was overshadowed……”

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2007/jan/31/newsstory.sport12

When will our new manager be able to speak English, Muppet?

Paul N
We have to get behind the new man/child now but had AW survived I expect he would have looked for someone, from within the squad, to stake a claim like Flamini did last season.

As Mia correctly said, Denilson & Diaby were bought to eventually get into the team. They have to make the statement that the time is now. The same goes for Djourou. Song is an option, despite what AW said, & maybe even Kolo or Ramsey. It takes a while for a player to step into the Wengerball style, so I think a purchase would only have been made if someone exactly right could have been got.

Arsene thought ahead but our new manager is incapable of any thought at all. I believe his assistant is to be an embittered architect from the far east who knows even less but talks incessantly & increasingly angrily.

Wengerball is dead & the new management is busily purchasing anyone mentioned on Tribal Football on contracts of £140m per week.

The new management team have stated that they expect to win every game next season, with wins of less than 6-0 against bottom half teams to be totally unacceptable.

The rest of the PL are known to be ecstatic. Mr Wenger has already had 2,789 job offers from top football clubs around the world.

there cant be 2789 clubs….all in need of a manager ! explain flint and db i hope that doesnt stand for db 10

We are £260m in debt and according to the media can’t afford to but anybody. Chelsea and United are collectively £1.5bn. Arsenal approach this time of year in a different way to others.

Has anybody ever turned up to Highbury or the Emirates and used the word “dude”?

Every club in the world would want Arsene, Arslan.

There is queue 3 miles long in Totteridge, with that little Spud, Levy, employing a team of hit men to ensure that he gets in 1st. Scolari is already packing his bags though.

I am very much looking forward to see how Felipao and Arsene interact.

I’ve been watching clips of the first half of the season and I reckon Emmanuel Eboue did very well - he showed a lot of skill, made some clever passes, good tackles, got past opponents and shot at goal. Sometimes on target. I say - Eboue for CDM!
..Sorry. I’ll take my medication now.

No, but seriously, Paul N, I’m with you. I have read the comments which detail fans’ reservations about Denilson’s and Diaby’s readiness or suitability to partner Cesc, and I share their anxiety. In fact, I oscillate between excitement and anxiety, especially now that it would seem there will be no Gilberto to provide a safe fallback option.
But then I remember people on blogs saying, this time last year, how lightweight a central pairing of Cesc and Flamini would be. And look how that turned out.

@ Muppet - lol

Ignore the link in my previous comment. I once linked to an article and the computer keeps remembering it. Cah!

Show me the money!!!!!!

just kidding….Denislon should be ahead in the pecking order for the DM, if he adapts to that position. However, the thought of Eboue on the Dm didnt seem that bad. He was a Rb, is good at defending, and might actually work better in a more defensive role rather than the winger role he was given.

Ahhh….but the thing is we’re not adding experience to the squad, as wenger had initially stated. He talked about a couple of experience players, Nasri might fit in that category, but ramsey and vela don’t. And we’re losing too many players, apart from Hled i think the rest are replacable, but the issue is will they be replaced from within(inexperienced, though higly talented) or through transfers.

News coming from Spain indicate that Barca wants to buy our stadium. They are offering 2 billion pounds. And another Billion if we would through in all our players, including the ones in the reserves. Heck, maybe Wenger can convince them to buy the fans as well, that would be fun.

Wengerhimself — why do you and Muppet get the most handsome icons?? I’m jealous!

Where is the money?

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