Aaron Ramsey was officially revealed as an Arsenal player yesterday, a new arrival from Wales as one of the old guard sadly passed away, my condolences to the family of Derek Tapscott. Ramsey made it clear that Arsene was the reason that he joined the club, very possibly to the chagrin of those who believe too much emphasis is put on the Le Boss rather than the club itself. Unfortunately for them that is a by-product of the media age we live whereby institutions are superseded by individuals because people no longer relate to them. It would not matter who the manager of the club was, they would be high profile and therefore presumed to be the club.
Ramsey seems set to have Emmanuel Adebayor as a team-mate next season despite attempts from AC Milan to unsettle, disturb and disrupt. The player commented in this morning’s Sun,
My future with Arsenal has never been in doubt and I want to assure fans I will be here for many years. My agent has met with coach Arsene Wenger about a new deal and I am happy about how the talks are going so fans can rest assured
So at least the Italian press got one thing right – Adebayor’s agent has met with Arsene and whilst I am sure that the prospect of the player moving if his demands were not met came up on the agenda, no doubt Mr 20% was also told that (a) Adebayor is not for sale or (b) he can go if they pay an extortionate fee.
Gervinho obviously does not have a very good Agent otherwise he would not be proclaiming to anyone who listened which happens to have been The Times. Instead his Mr 20% would have done that for him. After all, what is it that he pays them to do anyway?
Arsenal have spoken to my agents and we are looking at it. Arsenal have made it clear that they want me
Congratulations to Kelly Smith of Arsenal Ladies on being awarded a CBE.
So to Euro 2008. The Dutch are providing a masterclass in counter-attacking football, a pat on the back for Robin van Persie for his goal last night (although the pat should be gentle lest he fall down and suffer thigh-knack again). The French showed the sort of profligacy in front of goal that we have become accustomed to at Arsenal. You cannot help but wonder how fit Henry was mentally and physically because a peak Henry would have buried the chance he had instead of clearing the bar. At least van Basten is being sensible about his use of RvP. A substitute is surely better for his long-term fitness than a starting spot although that will probably come against Romania as the Dutch only need to keep the momentum going rather than winning in style.
The thought of Thuram joining as a player-coach as the oft-quoted rumour has it, is not filling me with joy. It seems he would equal Laurent Blanc’s efforts at United so perhaps a full-time coaching role somewhere might suit him better. Talking of Frenchmen coming to Arsenal, <Young Guns> reports that Nasri has signed a pre-contract with Arsenal negating Atletico’s supposed interest in the player.
As for who will accompany the Dutch to the Quarter-Finals, the Italians are doing their usual circuitous route there and the French seem devoid of confidence in front of goal, plus Buffon is proving that it is not a certainty that Casillas is the best ‘keeper on the planet at the moment.
Cesc meanwhile is happy being a sub apparently,
For me it is not hard at all being a sub. There are some great players in the national side and whether I start or not I will do all I can to help the team. I know I can do a lot for the team and play an important role even if I start on the bench
Good luck to him and his compatriots today against Sweden.
Finally, Kenny Sansom was named at Number 36 of the Greatest Arsenal players and you can win a signed copy of his recent autobigraphy, To Cap It All, courtesy of Word Of Sport, purveyors of the finest football books, DVD’s and artwork.
Answer the following question for your chance to win:
Against whom did Kenny Sansom score his first league goal for Arsenal?
a – West Ham United
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c – Stoke City
Email the answer to yogiswarrior@btinternet.com with your choice in the subject and your name and address in the body of the mail. Closing date is Monday 16th June 2008 and the winner will be announced shortly afterwards. Thanks to the largesse of Liam, the competition is open to all entrants worldwide.
’til Tomorrow.























Morning Yogi
On the Henry Euro front, I think it’s all mental. His confidence has been knocked. It took time when he was at Arsenal for him to adapt to being a striker, having played on the wing in Italy. Well, thats whats been happening for him at Barca, no surprise that that deftness of touch isn’t always there (although his goal showed that he’s not lost it completely). I still really enjoy watching him play & whilst I am happy that he’s no longer at Arsenal (the deal we got when he was clearly crocked with the sciatic nerve) he’s probably still my favourite player.
By: Alan on June 14, 2008
at 8:38 am
Morning All,
Agree with Alan, although obviously TH14 is getting old and he disappears parts of the game. Having said that, he actually got better at the later stages of the game. I almost kicked his a$$ on TV when he tripped RVP but it was nice to see them shake hands and laugh at the end of the game.
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I’m still very happy France may not qualify, mainly because I think Domenech doesn’t seem to find away to get his head out of his a$$. It may also be a blessing in disguise so Nasri’s price/wage demands wouldn’t go up (That’s if he’s coming to us)….I think he is.
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I defended Ade to the point of a fist fight with E***n, I would say Ade would be so stupid if he decides to leave, he will never find the kind of support he gets from Arsene or Arsenal….I hope he stays….and I will continue to happily defend him.
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Looking forward to watching Cesc today, I hope he plays and they win. Would be a nice final between Netherland vs. Spain?
By: Ashraf Zanaty on June 14, 2008
at 9:07 am
YW,
Another refreshing post in this dry season. I like the subtlety concerning Thuram. If one performance can ever be seen to prove a wider point then last night Holland allowed him to (hopefully) quell the call for this particular saviour. What springs to mind? “A need for big talents not big names”. Obviously others elsewhere will no doubt disagree (”Wenger I demand you use my money to buy Villa, Thuram, Ben Afra, Pato, Zapato, Cruyff” etc). If that big talent could be a strong cb (along with Nasri), I’d be more than happy.
Ramsey’s purchase should hopefully ease the agitation of Howard and others of a like mind. It might also, as you say, temper the views of the contingent of those who seem most perturbed by the nationality and/or importance of our manager.
Alan,
I share your appreciation of TH14 and hope his condition does not continue to blight the twilight of his exceptional career.
By: Dgob on June 14, 2008
at 9:17 am
I’m becoming concerned that Arsene Wenger might become the Brian Clough of Arsenal. Remember, Brian Clough was the manager who made Forest a super club but eventually also sent Forest to football nonentity.
Arsene after pushing Arsenal so high up (the titles and cups, the training complex, the youth system and the new stadium) has began overseeing Arsenal along the Brian Clough road of destruction. Arsene’s drawbacks include:
1. Failing to bring in the players that we now need to win eg. making comments to the effect that he’ll not consider a new CB when our defence is the worst in the Top 4
2. Wasting my hard earned money on average foreign players like Eboue, Senderos, Djourou, Denilson, Diaby, Gallas, Almunia etc.
3. Refusal to buy English players better than some of the foreign average we currently have eg. buying Ashley Young or Curtis Davies.
4. Refusal to give English players a chance eg. gave many chances to Stepanov and Cygan but not same to Upson who was far better than the two. Sold Matthew Connolly and retained crap Senderos and Djourou.
5. Selling all English prospects that come along and use funds to bring in average foreign players.
6. Every year promising to improve the team by bringing in key players in key position but persist in having faith in players who can win anything for us.
7. Gradually turning Arsenal into a French club and using it as a training ground for the French national team.
Is Arsene the new Brian Clough? Your guess is as good as mine.
By: Howard on June 14, 2008
at 9:50 am
players who can win anything for us=players who can’t win anything
By: Howard on June 14, 2008
at 9:53 am
I don’t think any one will under estimate or guess Wenger as bad as you do Howard….Except the Muppet of course…:)
How funny fans get spoiled and get used to being in the top two for 6-7 years winning 3 titles, 4 FA Cups..even in our worst years we play the best football and clubs are fighting over half of our squad….those same fans somehow forget the years of mediocre “English Arsenal” prior to Wenger years.
Time will tell, some will be crying blood when Wenger finally decide to call it quits and we go back to hiring managers like Mouninho and Grant and playing English mediocre muddy footy under the pouring rain….
By: Gunner4Ever on June 14, 2008
at 10:09 am
Fabrice Muamba is another player who shouldn’t have been sold. He was a defensive midfielder and with a little patience and polishing could’ve been the player we need at the DM position. He has the height and the tackling ability a la Viera better than Diaby in that position and could be better than Flamini.
No. Arsene chose to stick with his countrymen and sold him. He preferred Flamini and later Diarra and both of them ditched him; he’s hanging on Diaby, who hasn’t got what it takes to be a defensive midfielder. Swedish Larrson is also better than Diaby and Denilson but he decided to sell Larrson in order to protect Diaby.
Arsene will eventually destroy Arsenal the way we see it. What Clough did to Forest is a lesson for us to question Arsene.
By: Howard on June 14, 2008
at 10:12 am
Wow….Somebody’s been drinking too much
“Red Bull” ? I suggest a lower dose of caffeine
More conspiracy theories? This time from the French………”the French are coming”
By: Gunner4Ever on June 14, 2008
at 10:23 am
Howard Muamba and Larrson did well at Birmingham didnt they.They are both where they belong in the Championship.Not good enough for Arsenal
As for Ade if what he says is true why have the rumours not stopped?.Why because he will be an AC player next season thats why
By: Harry Harris on June 14, 2008
at 10:38 am
Howard – dude forget the red bull i am thinking more crack cocaine, please do not compare AW to that drunk.
Yes there could be more english players in our 1st team but few can argue that even in these barren times we have played some amazing football.
By: Silver Gunner on June 14, 2008
at 10:39 am
this euro tornament is already been better then the last one and we aren’t even in the knockout stages yet!
is it because us english are not there stinking the place out with our poor boring negative shit our selfs when a player approaches football!
seriously we are getting tought a footballing lesson! the truth is teams like romania and croatia are a lot better then us! we are probably on the same level as sweden and denmark! 9th best in the world my arse!
also look how many major tornaments we fail to qualify for? I think our qualification success rate is about 3 in 5! about 60% then! does anyone have the true stats for this as i dont know if this is correct. but that doesnt seem good for, as we like to say “a big footballing nation”
By: dukeGoonem on June 14, 2008
at 10:56 am
YW good one and I fully agree that AW is still the best thing to happen to the Arsenal for a long time.
Howard
Your comments underestimate the fundamental upheaval that has happened to the club that AW has effected. We were not near the earning levels of Liverpool or Manures when AW too over and now we have surpassed Pool and within striking distance of Manure. All these done cheaply and while playing brilliant football. We have not achieved what Brian Clough did for Forest in that we have not won the CL or it’s equivalent but we are easily in the top 10 clubs in the world. All these due to AW an with the board support. The Arsenal has never been the same since AW took over. Previously we won the occassional Title and FAC but never as consistently in the top 4 and never playing as brilliantly as we do now. The way the Arsenal now plays is well worth the admission ticket even if we donot win anything.
Yes I am frustrated at the hint that we will not be signing a world class CB but I am not entirely convince yet but at no time will I allow anyoen to compare what AW has done to Clough’s( although I admire what Forest has achieved in Europe on a very limited budget and squad)
Patience is needed Howard. AW is a winner and he will not let the Arsenal not win things for too long.
Up The Arse!!!!
By: Malaysiangunner on June 14, 2008
at 10:56 am
Howard,
Don’t believe everythig you read in the papers.
1. He said their problem was with long balls and that is not just a CB issue. Do you really know what players we need? What the effect of bringing a big slow defender in would be? How impresed have you been with Mertesacker?
2. Which ones of those are average? They are internatinals to a man.
3. Ashley Young has turned out pretty well but at £10m, so he should. It’s still not clear that he would fit in well at Arsenal. How’s his ball retention? Would he read Fab’s passes as well as the much cheaper Rosicky? Curtis Davies? You’re having a laugh. What about the cash stumped up for Walcott — more than for Van Persie or Rosicky or Hleb or Eduardo or Adebayor or Fabregas. Which memeber of the England team would make it into the Arsenal side? Ferdinand?
4. Upson had plenty of chances, was injured all the time and didn’t want to wait. He is not obviously better than Senderos. I’m still waiting for Connolly to make an impact. Also the policy of letting players go when they aren’t getting games is a good one. What about Pennant
5. An example would be helpful.
6. We’ve got better each of the last two seasons. But for some dodgy refereeing we might have won the whole thing. That despite the huge amount of wonga thrown at Chelsea and dreadful injuries.
7. I’m not sorry that Clichy, Sagna, Henry, Anelka, Vieira, Flamini, Grimandi, Petit or Pires have played for Arsenal. Given relations between Wenger and Domenech you can’t accuse him of doing too many favours for the French side.
8. Muamba is not obviously better than even the players who are still in the club.
If Wenger goes the way of Brian Clough it will be for similar reasons — not having the dosh to keep or get the players he really wants (cf the constant flow of players (Birtles, Davenport, Webb, Keane) to ManU, the loss of Collymore and Nigel to Liverpool etc., Tony Woodcock, Des Walker to Sampdoria) — and the time to start owrrying will be when the last season isn’t as good as the one before,perhaps when we have to rely on dodgy lasagna again.
You will also note that neither a change of manager nor a change of management fixed things.
By: Vivas on June 14, 2008
at 10:59 am
Malaysiangunner – i only think Howard will be happy if we replace the whole team with english players irrespective of the type of football we play
By: Silver Gunner on June 14, 2008
at 11:01 am
Hi Howard,
See a specialist before it’s too late. Arsene is far from perfect, but some of your ‘points’ are clearly delusional.
By: wandarah on June 14, 2008
at 11:08 am
Howard is a xenophobe, straight and simple. There is no reasoning with the man. Ignore his posts and move on.
By: shotta-gunnah on June 14, 2008
at 11:16 am
I do not think Howard has watched any of the players he mentions. He does not know about Upson and his injuries. He thinks Connolly is a prem player. All proves to me that he does not know a lot about Arsenal and just picks names from papers and other blogs.
By: Steve on June 14, 2008
at 11:25 am
Shotta-gunnag….wait till The Muppet wakes up with his daily sketch to complete the show.
We got to repel them man, otherwise they’ll grow all over the blog, and eventually demand that we wear an English flag lapel pin or they consider us unpatriotic Arsenal fans.
By: Gunner4Ever on June 14, 2008
at 11:30 am
Shotta-gunnag = Shotta-gunnah….sorry, it’s 3:30 am here
By: Gunner4Ever on June 14, 2008
at 11:31 am
Congratulations to Julie Fleeting on getting her gong too.
I am sure you didn’t intend the ’snub’.
By: aj on June 14, 2008
at 12:11 pm
getting sick of this dudes
instead of signing established ENGLISH talent, like Terry and Rooney, we keep going for SCHOOLBOY UNKNOWNS, and signing FRENCH unknows:
look at Wenger’s record in signing FOREIGN UNKNOWNS:
Henry, Vieira, Anelka, Van Persie
it’s a disaster
none of these players were up to Arsenal STANDARDS
we need Young, Upson, Connolly and FAST
TRUE BRIT GRIT
By: Muppet on June 14, 2008
at 12:21 pm
Heskey, is one under estimated real “English” talent. He would fit right in and he has great Prem experience. Or, Maybe Wenger can convince Gazza to come back? With a little bit of good diet and some exercise he can get back to his best, he will just need a light booze tank attached to his waste to keep him going for the 90 minutes…..Howard? why don’t you call your guys to get in touch with that English Legend?
By: Gunner4Ever on June 14, 2008
at 12:34 pm
Waste = Waist….Although it fits, since he was wasted all the time
By: Gunner4Ever on June 14, 2008
at 12:41 pm
Howard, are you an idiot?
4 points off top spot and we are indecline, Wenger is killing the club?
As I writ ethis I’m watching the season review of last season and it seems to leave your arguements in tatters. How can Arsene be taking Arsenal down when they score more point slast season than in the two previous?
Also is Muamba, Larson, Upson etc are so god then how come none are playing for other top clubs?
sorry, rant over
By: Steve Mc on June 14, 2008
at 1:36 pm
Howard!
I know where you are coming from, mate I am just as frustrated as you!
But as I said before LET US GIVE ARSENE A CHANCE!!
I have also wondered about upson and conolly with regard to cygan and senderos, But to be fair arsene did not say anything about them when they were here.
But this time he has committed to give the prospects like lansbury, wilshere and randall a look-in. So let us give him time and see whether arsene is a man of his word!!!
P.S. I am with you on senderos!!
By: naga gunner on June 14, 2008
at 1:43 pm
Funny stuff Howard, we looked real close to relegation this season didn’t we? Reckon we’ll do well to stay up next year. As for the foreigners, tell me about it, Henry , Pires, Viera, Van Persie, Overmars, Petit when we could of played Pennant, Bentley, Sidwell etc
By: Rosetinted on June 14, 2008
at 1:48 pm
Howard i told you stay away from cheap drugs. After watching yesterday’s game i agree signing big names is not the way to go. What spring to mind is Malouda when he was available from Lyon most pple wanted us to go for him, i saw him play and i said thank God we did not buy him, i am not sure about Ribery but the French lacked a playmaker like the one we have.
By: Clay on June 14, 2008
at 1:50 pm
Clay!
HA.HA HA, that was hilarious mate. CHEAP DRUGS!! ho ho ho!!!
Howard, dont mind! this is not a reflection on you! I just thought the comment was funny!
Cheers to both of you!
By: naga gunner on June 14, 2008
at 2:02 pm
Khalid Boulahrouz was my man of the match for the Dutch -French game yesterday. Wow! He was phenomenal! Wonder why he just never found his feet at Chelsea? The weather? Mourinho? He’s still their player isn’t he? For how much longer? Plays across the back 4, mobile, decisive, tall, overlaps..prototype of what AW’s probably looking for the way he’s playing…hopefully
RvP & Robben came in and killed off the French. Because of the aerial limitations of TH14, the profligacy of Malouda,, & lack of right-wing play , the French tend to go thru Ribery & the middle too much. Van Basten matched them in the middle for 45mins, then inserted the 2 ducks (weird arm movements when they run), spread the attack, & they ruthlessly killed the French. Loved it
Man it hurts us whenever we lose RvP.
We wait & we wonder.
By: Aman on June 14, 2008
at 2:40 pm
i say Wenger should be sacked and replaced by Neil Warnock, splash the cash on Joey Burton, Dean Windass from Hull for about £8 mil,Kevin Davies would be the ideal target man
By: Runebreaker on June 14, 2008
at 2:51 pm
Arsene is taking in the preferred drink of Brian Clough, he is losing it big time.
G4E
I’m not recomending Heskey for the Arsenal but a team with the likes of Eboue and Senderos can accomodate Heskey. I mean Heskey can fit into Arsena and replace Eboue at his position.
By: Howard on June 14, 2008
at 3:00 pm
Runebreaker
I’ll prefer Ashley Young to Hleb or Diaby at the LM because he can score goals and good at dead balls. His ball retention is also good. I’ll rather sell Hleb and bring in Young.
I’ll also sell Senderos and Djourou and buy Curtis Davies ‘cos he’s better than the two mentioned. He’s proved himself since he joined the EPL playing for Villa.
It’s not all Arenal players who’re skillful. In fact, if you take, Cesc, Rosicky, RvP, Clichy, Sagna, Toure, Ade, the remaining are all replaceable and available in the English market and even in the championship, waiting to get a chance in the EPL.
We don’t need to import all those average players.
By: Howard on June 14, 2008
at 3:11 pm
Ade watch:
Today’s Gazzetta says we’ve sent Milan a frosty fax, and there’s a pic of Ade glistening with sweat, mouth wide open in a howl of anguish – at having to stay here, you understand, at least that’s the kindest interpretation I can put on it.
Any sightings of him shopping in Milan or eating in flash restaurants? No, despite the fact that he’s a manic clothes-shopper and would probably be in paradise there. Any evidence that he’s on the point of signing and has agreed personal terms? Again, not a jot.
Significantly the piece ends with the paper asking Oddo who he thinks would be better, Ade or Drogba, to which Odda diplomatically says he’s not sure.
In short it’s nothing but a fantasy, egged on by the agent no doubt, and I predict that from next week Drogba will become the dream player of choice. Now he really has been photographed in Milan – freguently, for at least a year – and has made lots of noises about the move. Ade himself, however, has never once expressed a desire to go anywhere else – quite the opposite – and if the Sun can be believed, which I admit is doubtful, he’s continually interupting his snooze under a Togan coconut tree to reassert that it’s a load of cobblers as far as he’s concerned.
By: Mia on June 14, 2008
at 4:16 pm
Howard
Diaby, Denilson,Hleb,Bendtner, Song and Traore are all above average players. Even Eboue is above average. They may be replacebale and even TH 14 is replaceable.
My point is no one is irreplaceable but as far as I am concern the ones mentioned above are good enough to be squad players and a few of them may even do a Flaminiish come good this season.
Theo Walcott is the same.
What we need irrespective of passport is a world class CB and a defensive CM now that Nasri is almost signed.
Howard plse Curtis Davis is not good enough compared to the ones we have. We need a Vidic/Rio/Cavalho/Agger quality at least.
Up The Arse!!!
By: Malaysiangunner on June 14, 2008
at 4:34 pm
I actually hate English players these days. I’m watching Euro 2008 and seeing the high quality of technical displays and really getting frustrated that all we have is Limp-ard, Terry-ble, Husky, Buck-him, and company. English players are crap…what can we do? If things continue this way we might not even make SA 2010.
By: Ole Gunner on June 14, 2008
at 6:00 pm
Not all English players are crap, some are very good. The problem with nearly ALL English players is their ignorance to fouriegn football and the oppurtunities/experience they could gain if they looked past our shores.
If younger English players looked past the Prem, much like Kazin Richards has, then maybe we could do something on the international stage.
Or maybe we would just continue to suck major lemons, its all hypothetical really
By: Steve Mc on June 14, 2008
at 7:12 pm
English players are bad, unskilled and so forth? The question is, what have our foreign imports won as compared with Chelsea, Manu and Pool with English players? Since we threw out the last block of English plyers, I mean, Sol and Cashley, what have we won?
The so called foreign XI from Mars with super skills have won nothing. Eboue couldn’t put in a single goal playing at RM the whole season, not for want of chances.
Yet you suggest continuing massive recruitment of average foreign players for the Arsenal?
By: Howard on June 14, 2008
at 7:54 pm
Euro 2008 Watch:
Holland played well yesterday, and probably deserved their victory over the French team.
France didn’t play badly, and aren’t out of the tournament yet, but they just didn’t click.
Apart from needing somebody to put away the chances they had, what France lacked yesterday – as well as in the game against Romania – was somebody able to link the play in midfield & attack, retaining possession whilst using their vision & creativity to make things happen.
It’s too late to make squad changes now, but in the absence of Zidane, the French team manager should have been big enough to put aside any personal dispute he may have, and recalled the in-form Robert Pires to the squad, to have played that role.
I believe Pires would have made a difference, even at the age of 34.
It would also have helped if “dead weight” like Malouda were jettisoned from the squad, never mind the actual first team.
Whilst Holland, Spain & Croatia have started the tournament well, it should be remembered that at this stage of the competition, all that matters is getting through to the next round.
Teams that have won the European Championship before have tended to save their best performances for the latter, knock out rounds, not for the group stages.
So it’s still possible for a team that hasn’t really shone so far, to come good in the competition when it really matters.
Any team that makes it through to the last eight, therefore, should fancy their chances.
By: Magneto on June 14, 2008
at 8:30 pm
howard
thats a big block of english players there mate!
mind you we could get a good block of english/british players in like
given, wright-phillips, young & richards
By: dukeGoonem on June 14, 2008
at 8:33 pm
Dudes,
anybody know when England start playing in the Euros and who against ? I’ve been searching the TV listings but find them anywhere…
any signings yet ?
By: Muppet on June 14, 2008
at 9:46 pm
Howard what have you Amy Winehouse, and Whitney Housten????
I do agree with you in the fact that it would be nice to have some more english players.
It would be nice to have an english spine but lets face it english players at equivalent prices are poorer technically than our foreign counterparts.
Muppet you are just too much.
By: Silver Gunner on June 14, 2008
at 10:43 pm
Ashley young is an english player I would very much like to have.
But look past him and i dont see much…
By: Silver Gunner on June 14, 2008
at 10:44 pm
ITS RIDICULOUS how every day most of the people who visit this site are drawn into insane arguments with HOward and muppet. THERE IS NO POINT IN wasting time with these 2 spuds. They come up with the most ridiculous of comments. MUppet ” viera, henry were not upto arsenal standards” . COme on people, these 2 just push you around to get the comment section roling or whatver. maybe yogi has hired them:P Or maybe it’s yogi’s “hyde” perosnality, where he loses his rationality or ability to come up with sane arguments, and becomes the direct opposite “MUPPET AND HOWARD!!!
By: Ateeb on June 14, 2008
at 11:58 pm
Ateeb Muppet is using satire. He is not serious, unlike Howard the duck.
By: Steve on June 15, 2008
at 12:24 am
Magneto
I too regret that we did not give Pires the 2 year contract that he deserved. Last season he could have given us the extra steel and even 10 minutes of brillance in some games that could have won us either the EPL or the CL.
I repeat my assertion the Arsenal do not treat players over 30 with the respect and value that some of them deserved. Maybe Edelman’s stinginess has something to do with that. Policies and wage structures while in general good but should never be written on stone. Since when have the Arsenal been run like the civil service? Look at Manure’s Scholes and Giggs, both have contributed significantly to both their CL and EPL victories. Even though I hate them to mt very core but there are things we could learn from them.
UP The Arse!!!!
By: Malaysiangunner on June 15, 2008
at 1:28 am
Muppet
You are funny. Keep it up
By: Malaysiangunner on June 15, 2008
at 1:29 am
Hi
You know why some players are leaving us at 27 to 28? One of the reason is that the Arsenal is percieved not to value players over 30. They concieveably would like to move to clubs if they have given ther best years ie 27 to 30 that value loyalty and will sign them 2 to 3 years contracts when they are over 30. Like the rest of us players value security too.
This is something fo the Arsenal management to think about.
Up THe Arse!!!
By: Malaysiangunner on June 15, 2008
at 1:34 am
Howard,
You are trying to falsely connect two things that you have no valid proof on except the coincidental circumstances.
The reason for not winning any titles in the last three years, is not because we let Campbell and the money hungry Cashley go…..it’s because we let all the Invincibles team go and tried to build a whole new team from the bottom up.
Don’t kid yourself and think we are not winning because we don’t have Cashley and Campbell. Cashley for example wasted a whole season in his money grapping saga…how was that any good for Arsenal? Campbell’s fragile English ego couldn’t take being subbed at half time in a game he let in two goals in a raw…..not the kind of title winning mentality is it?
Enough with insulting our intelligence man.
By: Gunner4Ever on June 15, 2008
at 2:08 am
G4E, Howard will not listen to reason. His mind is 1 dimensional, he read the newspapers and some blogs and believes everything they print. If he was around when TH14 was with the club for only half a season he would of said “sack him he is worthless”. That is Howard’s attention span.
By: Steve on June 15, 2008
at 2:52 am
Well Steve, I guess every blog must have one of those…..it would be nice if they just argue something that makes sense or logic.
By: Gunner4Ever on June 15, 2008
at 3:01 am
Muppet for Prime Minister!
By: Aman on June 15, 2008
at 4:13 am
I caught the Villa goal today, and he has been impressive. Still, something about him reminds me of Morientes: Great in Spain, great in some international games, pretty crap at Liverpool. Would Villa do any better?
By: Guat on June 15, 2008
at 4:26 am
dukeGoonem
Wright-Philips, Young and Richards are better than their counterparts at the Arsenal.
SWP is better than Eboue. Pacy and direct as Eboue but better ball retention and can deliver goals
Young is better than Hleb. Hleb is better in ball retention but Young is quicker, bring along better tackling ability, will score goals and good at dead balls.
Richards is far ahead of Senderos and Djourou that you worship daily and can be better than Gallas with Arsene’s touch.
They’re all better than the so called skilled foreign counterparts.
By: Howard on June 15, 2008
at 5:08 am
I’ll be very happy to see France thrown out from the Euro competition, just to prove to Arsene that French players are no better. To see them crushed by the Dutch was like a replay of Arsenal beating the Spurs 3:1 at the Shit Lane.
Some of us are tired of the Arsenal becoming the training ground for the French national team and the noises of so called technical abilities.
The so called best nation with best technical players were humiliated by the Dutch? France is no better after all they’ve won the World Cup only once and in Paris not in Italy, Brazil or USA.
By: Howard on June 15, 2008
at 5:45 am
Howard, I remember when I first read your comments a year ago, I said you were a Spuds fan. Then some people here told me, no no no Howard is an Arsenal Fan, I still think you are a Spuds fan who just like to come here and rile us up with your English crap.
If you like English players so much, why don’t you go support the Spuds, Wigan, Bolton or Leeds they have enough English crap for you to marvel at. Enough with the English sh*t, we will have English when we are ready to have them and when they are good enough.
If France gets kicked out of the group round, this is still a couple of steps better than England who didn’t qualify at all. There you have it dude…
Oh and you won the world cup in 1966 when football was crap…that’s probably why you won it.
By: Gunner4Ever on June 15, 2008
at 7:19 am
The thing is that years ago howards mother ran away with a French dude who was visiting England. And Howard’s father left him in the jungle where he was raised by animals. And since hs return to civilization he has hated anything french, French people, French toasts, french fries, and offcourse Arsene Wenger and the frenchies in the team. He also hates the foreigners who ae hired by the french coach.
By: Cylon on June 15, 2008
at 10:00 am
Reading this makes me feel a bit like losing one-nil to Wigan away. I’d rather not watch. Is it possible to get just Muppet by email?
By: Mia on June 15, 2008
at 10:01 am
Mia, take it easy…this too, shall pass!
By: Magneto on June 15, 2008
at 10:44 am
MUPPET STOP PRESS. Arsenal and Barcelona have swopped Adebayor for Henry, and have agreed an exchange with Liverpool for Pennant in exchange for Fabregas, and Leyton Orient have bought Hleb for 30 million pounds. Richard Wright will also be back next season together with Fran Jeffers, as part of Arsenal ALL ENGLISH policy, it has been revealed that Ebueos grandparents were English so he will stay. AFC are waiting for offers for Gallas, Toure, and Sagna.
By: solgooner on June 15, 2008
at 11:18 am
Muppet and Howard. Next seasons line up Wright, J.Hoyte, G. Hoyte,Barlett, Upson, Randall, Pennant, Walcott, Gibbs, Jeffers and Shearer.
By: solgooner on June 15, 2008
at 11:25 am
Howard from next season all non British citizens will be barred as spectators at the Emirates
By: solgooner on June 15, 2008
at 11:28 am
i`d better not renew my red membership then!
By: algerian_gooner on June 15, 2008
at 11:59 am
I’m not England supporter nor Howard supporter , one thing every Arsenal Supporters need to be aware of is how the FA perceives Arsenal. I don’t think the FA will let Arsenal to win the PL title without a regular English first team player. Most of the PL referees are bias against any teams that don’t have house hold English international players, not just Arsenal. Just imaging ManUSA have same squad and same quality but swap Scholes, Rooney, Carrick, Hargreaves, Brown & Ferdinand nationality to any of Africa or Asia nationalilty. Will they still win the title for last 2 seasons? I pretty sure ManUSA would concede more penalties. Rooney, Scholes, Ferdinand, Hargreaves & Brown could collect more yellow cards to miss more games. Especially Rooney & Scholes could have been sent off more offer than not.
Take the game Everton vs Liverpool. The referee was so obvious pro Liverpool. Because of Gerard & Carragher are playing for Liverpool.
Chelski vs West Ham. Lampard’s red card was over turn. Could you imaging this happen to an African player? Remember the referee got it wrong to sent off Adebayor? Eboue definitely deserved the red card in that match.
In a tight run in like last season the referee decision make a lot of difference. Unless Arsenal able to out play all the oppositions most of the time next season, I don’t think we able to win the title unless Walcott (English) became star player.
By: India-Gunner on June 15, 2008
at 12:06 pm
Afternoon all! i have read reports this morning linking Mourinho with a move for Van Persie. How is it that this man still has the cheek to even dream of signing an arsenal player after the Ashley Cole scandal??? Van Persie is an important player when fit, and i do admit we are yet to see the best of him because of his injuries but my faith in him is deep because he is an amazin talent. his left foot is incredible and not many left footed players around the world can match his. (remeber his heavenly goal against Charlton) so Mourinho DO 1!! and leave our players alone!!!…when the season was drawing to a close i couldn’t wait for the rumor mill to start running, and see who we would be linked with. 1st it was Ben Arfa, then it was Villa saying his preferred destination would be Arsenal because of their style of play, next it was Nasri and then Ramsey. the Ben Arfa stories stopped when we had agreed a deal wid Marseille for Nasri, then the Nasri stories stopped when apparently Arsenal and Nasri couldn’t agree on the wages so he wont be signing now until after the euro’s, Villa is too expensive but its always good to dream
) and apparently today Sky Sports are saying Villa would welcome a move to Liverpool??? WHY? so he can battle it out for fourth place with Everton… and well ramsey is offiacialy an Arsenal player, so some progress has been made. last season 1reason why we failed to win anything was because we didnt have the squad depth to cope in all competitions. so with FlamMoney gone Vela and Ramsey both in, along with Gibbs, Randal, Gilbert, Nordveit and Merida all being promoted to the 1st team it looks like we might just have the depth to cope providing Adebayor stays. however having said this, it does not mean the sqaud will have the experiance to last the distance? Helbs basically left so i would say that we need two more signings and they both have to be significant. One to show our ambition as a club, two, to improve in weak areas and three, to add the leadership we were lacking at times last season. So with Nasri its fingers crossed but who else should we try to sign? Albiol? Navas? Moutinho? Quaresma? Richards? Downing? whoever we sign i hope and pray they can slot right in to the team and bring the silverwear back to its rightful home at Arsenal. Arsenal4life
By: gunner13 on June 15, 2008
at 1:35 pm
gunner4ever
thats a bit of a low blow saying england only won the world cup in 66 coz football was shit!!
it was coz of a dodgy russian linesman!!lol
By: dukeGoonem on June 15, 2008
at 2:08 pm
India-Gunner
Thank you. This is the kind of reasoning a lot of fans don’t see from this wholesale foreign importation.
The policy is one major factor preventing Arsenal from winning and if this policy continues, we’ll continue to be empty-handed for years to come.
Why on earth does Arsene continue to bring all types of foreign players in.
Pool, Manu, Chelsea will not entertain foreign players like Senderos, Eboue and Djourou in their team. They only bring in foreign quality and get rid of them if they don’t perform.
If Boularouz had been bought by Arsenal instead of Chelsea, he’ll still be in Arsenal but was quickly booted by Chelsea. Stepanov,Luzny, Cygan were not good but managed to hang on at Arsenal for too long. This can’t happen at MANU or even Pool.
No wonder craps like Senderos and Eboue are still being retained and collecting huge wages per week and yet losers.
By: Howard on June 15, 2008
at 2:56 pm
MI6 Agents wire tap London Colney Heath Training Ground and discover secret communications between Domenech and Wenger that reveal venue used as Training Camp for development of French national players. The official base, Clairefontaine, is a smoke screen.
According to MI6 translators, french national players were secret double, even triple agents, undermining english players by not passing the ball to them, and ignoring them at the dinner table.
Moreover, deliberate sabotage of the english national team is suspected, with token english players in the youth set up, failing to make future squads due to foreign preferences. This is the case with the highly talented Matthew Connolly, who was sidelined by Phillipe Senderos, a swiss mole.
The french cabal, revealed by M16, was suspected by Bentely, who commented:
“I was never going to get a game. Players like Pires and Rosicky were ahead of me in the pecking order. I suspected foul play”
MI6 also seized secret documents that revealed french players had been sold on for huge transfer fees, many times their initial worth. Nicolas Anelka, Patrick Vieira and Thierry Henry denied any wrong doing however.
English team boss Capello, who uses the training ground, was shocked:
“Such foreign influence is a scandal. The english have talented players and managers. We need to stop this kind of foreign invasion”
By: Muppet on June 15, 2008
at 5:04 pm
What’s your predictions/hopes for the Carling Cup team next season?
This is what i’d like to see:
Fabianski/Mannone
Rodgers/Ogogo – Song/G.Hoyte – Nordtveit(c)/Bartley – Gilbert/Steer/Evina
Ramsey/Barazite – Lansbury(c)/Coquelin – Randall/Merida – Gibbs/Traore
Simpson/Wilshere – Vela/Sunu/Freeman
By: Blackstock on June 15, 2008
at 7:32 pm
On a serious note to Howard ….The sentiment is understandable, we do need English players, nothing wrong with that…and there is a slight chance FA and Referees are against us (They are any way since the Invincibles) but to suggest that we should buy any English players and pay exaggerated prices for them just to have them is plain bull sh*t.
We have the English players, they’re coming through and they seem to be promising. Walcott is one of them, Gibbs is one of them, and more…We didn’t pay 30 million in any of them, and we are teaching them how football should be played….it’s up to them to make it now.
So Howard and his followers, I’m not against English players for the sake of it. I’m against paying 21 Million in SWP, he was not worth it, and still not worth it. If he was 10-12 million at the time he was sold, I think Wenger would’ve gone for him. We don’t need English Celebrity players who’s only talent is breaking the transfer records…OK?
By: Gunner4Ever on June 15, 2008
at 8:42 pm
I do like Howard carping on about how crap the French team is right now, though, and how that’ll show something to Wenger. Last I checked we only had one player on it, as Domenech did us a favor by not bringing Sagna or Clichy (and how much better would the French look with those two bombing up the sides?). We’re hardly a French training ground at the moment, are we?
By: louisquatorze on June 15, 2008
at 9:22 pm
howard seems obessesed with english players!!!
well what a game the turks were amazing second half!!!
By: Silver Gunner on June 15, 2008
at 10:15 pm
Silver Gunner. How you can kick a player in the head in the penalty area and not give away a foul amazes me though.
By: Steve on June 15, 2008
at 10:53 pm
Yeah, funny how Howard is harping on English crap and his English national team coach is Italian……what a joke?
Go cry to the FA Howard not Wenger or us.
By: Gunner4Ever on June 15, 2008
at 10:53 pm
i am starving of arsenal in action
By: gunner4life on June 16, 2008
at 8:17 am
glad some people were able to point out certain things to Howard already!
The fact that it is the dutch with one of our players scoring that is showing France also with one of our players in not good enough and not the English team is obviously lost to him.
Your national team coach is Italian, go figure…
By: team spirit on June 16, 2008
at 12:43 pm
Wow the comments section has gone to the dogs of late :s
By: klon on June 16, 2008
at 2:21 pm
where is the dogs? klon
By: team spirit on June 16, 2008
at 2:28 pm
Updated version:
One thing every Arsenal Supporters need to be aware of is how the FA perceives Arsenal. I don’t think the FA will let Arsenal to win the PL title without a regular English first team player. Most of the PL referees are bias against any teams that don’t have house hold English international players, not just Arsenal but any teams like Everton, Villa, Blackburn etc. Just imaging ManUSA have same squad and same quality but swap Scholes, Rooney, Carrick, Hargreaves, Brown & Ferdinand nationality to any of Africa or Asia nationalilty. Will they still win the title for last 2 seasons? I pretty sure ManUSA would concede more penalties. Rooney, Scholes, Ferdinand, Hargreaves & Brown could have been easily collected more yellow cards to miss out more games. Especially Rooney & Scholes could have been sent off more often than not.
Take the game Everton vs Liverpool. The referee was so obvious pro Liverpool. Because of Gerard & Carragher are playing for Liverpool.
Chelski vs West Ham. Lampard’s red card was over turn. Could you imaging this happen to an African player? Remember the referee got it wrong to sent off Adebayor? Eboue definitely deserved the red card in that match.
In a tight run in like last season the referee decision make a lot of difference. Unless Arsenal able to out play all the oppositions most of the time next season, I don’t think we able to win the title unless Walcott (English) became the star player. Could you imaging what the FA is going do if Arsenal win the title without regular English (or at least British) first team player.
SAF is more cunning or smarter than AW. He knows how to win the media and FA’s heart. When you have Rooney playing for you, half of the FA & referees are already on your side.
Do you remember what MOANrinho said when first came to Chelski? You need the English spine to win the title!
Let’s see what Rafa is doing now? Tapping up Barry and going to splash out BIG bucks for Barry. Why? First, to keep Gerard happy to prevent he goes to Chelski. Second he is English and all the media and the FA like Gerard and Barry pair up! Don’t you think with that kind of money Rafa is going to pay Vila, he can’t find a good holding midfield in the other part of the world? Look at how Rafa conducted his transfer for last few seasons. He will splash part of his transfer fund in English or British player to keep the media and the FA happy. I won’t be suprise if Liverpool win the title next season. This fella has a strategy in place every seasons.
I really hope AW splashs his fund to buy Micah Richards. I know in football sense, he isn’t worth 15-20 million but half of his price is to win you the media, referee and the FA heart. Walcott has to step up and more consistent. Let’s face it, without Walcott start playing regulary the referees won’t let you win the title.
My proposal to AW for next season is:
1. Secure Nasri signing: That solves the Ice Cream Gate crisis.
2. Buy Micah: Solve the right and center back cover.
3. Issue a warning letter to both RoSICKY and RvP that they are only allow to stay another season if they unable to stay fit for more than 20 matches per season. Pre season matches not included.
4. Sell Hleb for at least 12 million pound.
5. Loan out Senderos if no club want to buy him. I would rather give the opportunity to Havard Norviedt.
By: India-Gunner on June 16, 2008
at 3:49 pm
India-Gunner
I’ve been battling this issue for months, I mean the need to et at least two players in the Arsnal line up.
If we don’t get at least two English players in the starting line up
By: Howard on June 16, 2008
at 4:10 pm
India-Gunner
I’ve been battling this issue for months, I mean the need to have at least two players in the Arsenal line up.
If we don’t get at least two English players in the starting line up and Arsene continues with his policy of training French national players at the Colney, then we should forget. We can’t win the league again.
Last season I said so and it happened; the coming season will be the same because of Arsene’s reluctance in changing his position.
Arsenal is first and foremost an English club based in North London and it is proper to have English players in the team to give something back to the community.
When Arsene managed Monaco, his team was not all foreign neither at Japan, so why North London?
Well, the fixtures are finally out and if Arsene brings some good quality English players, fix the defence, then the title will be ours; anything less will be another dream. Chesea, Pool,Manu and even Spurs are coming in a big way.
By: Howard on June 16, 2008
at 4:24 pm
AW needs a good plan and strategy to win the title not just purely on beautiful football. This is the game you have to play in PL. There is hidden agenda and rule for you to follow. Having said that I don’t think we should be back to the GG’s way of winning 1-0. We need flair but sometime need to learn why ManUSA is more successful than us. Why SAF is more favour in the media and FA’s eye.
I knew AW has his own principle but sometime you have to pragmatic to deal with the situation you are surrounding with.
I really like Micah Richards. He is real Gooner. He will give 101% if he has the chance to wear Arsenal’s jersey.
By: India-Gunner on June 16, 2008
at 4:39 pm
And to please the FA and Referees, we have to pay 30 million pounds in an English player who is not even worth 3rd of that price…Right? And it would be nice if Mr. 20% is English too…why not get a piece of the English pie?
The idiot feeds the crazy in an all English bias world.
By: Gunner4Ever on June 16, 2008
at 5:16 pm
G4E
We’ll fail because the foreign policy will always fail.
Mind you, Richards will play for more than 10 years if signed, right? He’ll win us trophies and will sell merchandise and wil pay off the investment we’ve made in him. He’s already better than Gallas.
Rooney, Rio have already paid off the 57 million spent to procure them through winning titles and the CL of late. They’ve already made Rednose one of the greatest managers in Europe to be remembered.
Arsene is not serious about his own future and legacy, Rednose does, so he does everything to win. You know what, history is only written by winners but not those who tried and failed.
By: Howard on June 16, 2008
at 5:30 pm
We need to make sure the referees, linesmen and groundsmen remain english so there is no further contamination of foreigness.
By: Muppet on June 16, 2008
at 5:57 pm
Like itor not the hidden rule is always there. In term of Richards’s case I fully agree with Howard. Even if you splash 20 mil on him, he will pay you back in one season if we win the PL title. Bad investment? Finger cross, as Howard said he can easy play 10 years for Arsenal. So workout only 2 mil per year. Compare to invest in unknow youngest (1-4 mil) most like to leave after break into first team. Which is more economical? Most importance is he is REAL Gooner! It is his dream to play for Arsenal. I like his attitude.
By: India-Gunner on June 16, 2008
at 6:07 pm
Muppet Next season all staff will be English, only English food will be served, foreign beer or spirits not allowed. only British Vodka, God Save the Queen sung at every match. WE SHALL OVERCOME::::
By: solgooner on June 16, 2008
at 6:10 pm
All,
I’m not asking to have all English players in the squad. Another 1 or 2 will do us better. Pre-condition is: He must be a Gooner like Micah Richards.
By: India-Gunner on June 16, 2008
at 6:17 pm
Howard and India,
All your calls for more English players totally ignores the very real issue of COST.
More and more managers from the PL are admitting that they prefer to buy foreign because they’re cheaper than English. So that even if they get a player who’s decent–not brilliant, but good enuf for the PL–it’s still cheaper than splashing ridiculous sums for English players who are also just decent, and not brilliant.
Also, the notion that Arsene is interested in using Arsenal to develop the French nationl team demonstrates a colossal ignorance about Arsene’s entire attitude toward int’l football. If it were up to Arsene, there would be no Euros, world cups, ANCs, Copa Americas, etc. If it were up to him, there wouldn’t be any int’l football AT ALL! He’d prefer that we’d start immediately into the new club season.
He goes to these tournaments to check out players, checkbook in hand. That’s the #1 reason he shows any interest in these competitions. I don’t know why people obsess over his use of the French league to buy Arsenal players. Benitez does it with Spain. And now Fergie’s got some kind of monopoly over Portugal. Felipao will be doing the same thing with Brazil and Portugal.
BTW, Arsene recently complained that French players aren’t as cheap as they used to be.
As to the French performance at the Euros, here’s a very good analysis from Arsene:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/main.jhtml?xml=/sport/2008/06/15/sfnfra215.xml
The Dutch are playing beautifully but they, like Spain, very often flatter to deceive. They start out well and then implode. They’re always mired in in-fighting. At the 2006 wc, van Basten kept out van Nistelrooy, the 2 weren’t on speaking terms. But now he’s in the squad and I hope the team’s unity can last because I’ve always loved Dutch football and wish they could break out of their perpetual underachievement.
However, the notion that the thrashing the Dutch gave to Italy and France indicates both of those squads are comprised of crap players beggars belief.
You can have all the wonderful individual talent in the world but if you don’t have team cohesion, if you don’t have commitment and hunger, if you don’t have a manager who inspires you, then all that talent matters little.
Or do you think that Greece in 2004 had greater individual talent than Italy, Portugal, France, Spain, England, Holland?
The French have a very talented squad but there is no leadership. Domenech is an average manager who–after all those friendlies and qualifiers–has failed to find the right balance between youth and experience, the right partnerships and pairings. The way to win these tournaments is to get that balance right but as Arsene says, you have 2 sides to the team: one that is too old and the other that is too young, with no one in between. And neither side seems to cohere into an effective unit.
A better, more gifted manager would’ve found the right balance and team selection by now.
All of you calling for young, inexperienced players like Clichy and Sagna have a point but Domenech is not wrong to keep at least some of the veterans as first choice players. You need that experience in these tournaments. Look at Gomis and Benzema–wonderful young players but they looked out of their depth in their appearances.
And Howard is dead wrong about France’s achievements. In the space of 8 years, they won a world cup (which they were predicted NOT to win on home soil), a Euro and reached the final of a wc. And if it’s so easy to win on home soil, why haven’t Spain, Brazil, Japan & South Korea done it?
If Brazil is the #1 exporter of football talent around the world, it is France that is Europe’s #1 exporter all around Europe. No country in Europe develops more talent, that’s why all the top clubs have heavy scouting networks there. And not just in Ligue 1. AW found Clichy in the 3rd tier of French football.
Many people in France are now saying that this failure at the Euros is in fact a good thing because it will force the FFF to finally look at another manager for the national team. Deschamps is a popular choice. I’d love to see what Laurent Blanc can do.
As for Thuram…I wouldn’t want him as a player but I’d love to see him as a defensive coach at Arsenal. In his prime he was the world’s top defender and still occasionally puts in great defensive displays — like the recent friendly against Ecuador and Paraguay, he pulled off a couple of amazing saves.
Oh, and Muppet, you’re a genius.
By: NYmarcus on June 16, 2008
at 6:37 pm
Bob Wilson: “Aaron will be part of Brit revolution”
http://www.walesonline.co.uk/footballnation/cardiff-city-fc/2008/06/15/aaron-will-be-part-of-brit-revolution-wilson-91466-21076144/
Good quotes from Bob, esp. this one:
“Age doesn’t matter at Arsenal. Arsene sits down with his staff, from those at under-10 level right through the academy, and they are under orders to get everyone playing the Arsene Wenger way. People think he wants foreign players to do that, but what a lot of them don’t understand is that Arsene has spent nine years developing young British players. He always knew it would take about 10 years to get there, but it’s not far away.”
By: NYmarcus on June 16, 2008
at 6:47 pm
Solgooner,
Only british Vodka ?!
Only available to a russian buyer !
By: Muppet on June 16, 2008
at 7:09 pm
Cheap foreign imports? We might still be in the wilderness this time next season unless we bring in at least two locals.
By: Howard on June 16, 2008
at 7:28 pm
We will not give-in to paying ridiculous prices for ridiculous English players, we will make those players instead…..Thank God that we have a manager who is no wasting your money on the “Glory of Now” and let the club go to debt land hell after he leaves (Sir Red A$$ Nose…if you don’t get it)
By: Gunner4Ever on June 16, 2008
at 8:02 pm
Howard,
Are you determined to ruin this site?
Change the record! You’re like Victor Meldrew.
By: Danny on June 16, 2008
at 8:10 pm
With Howard & now Indian-Gunner’s concept, Chel$ki should have won something this year don’t they? After all they have half of the English National Team in their squad….but they didn’t win anything did they? Nada, Zero…with Terry, Cole 1, Cole 2, Lampard, SWP….All these English players worth about 200 million for nothing? What a waste?
By: Gunner4Ever on June 16, 2008
at 8:57 pm
G4E
If French players are better technically than English players, how come this years’ CL finals saw many English players:
Chelsea-Ashley Cole, Joe Cole, Terry and Lampard
ManUSA-Rio, Rooney, Brown, Scholes, Carrick and Hargreaves.
Lest I forgot, the French CL teams got no where, right?
We had no English players but had ‘the most skilled, fluently mobile’ foreign breed and yet couldn’t go beyond the quarters?
At the end, the team with more English players won. Are English players that bad and foreign players the best?
Look how Brown, the player some say is crap performed as against our ’super Senderoses and the Gallases performed against Liverpool?
They will win nothing for us; let’s throw out the Gallases, Senderoses, Eboues, Djourous and the Diabys out before they distort the Arsenal’s history.
By: Howard on June 16, 2008
at 9:00 pm
Take out the foreigners from Man Ure, Chelski, and Liverpool and these teams will go nowhere fast. If it wasn’t for Ronaldo and our injuries..Man Ure would’ve never seen that title mate.
By: Gunner4Ever on June 16, 2008
at 9:31 pm
Vidic and Cronaldo were essential to Utd’s victories last season. So was Tevez, who came up with game-saving goals again and again.
By: NYmarcus on June 16, 2008
at 9:33 pm
You are all wasting your time with Howard. His 1 track mind is made up (just like it was with Almunia) and until we win something he will not change.
By: Steve on June 16, 2008
at 9:40 pm
English players and sportsmen in general are vital as they provide that fighting spirit.
Let’s provide a healthy comparison with Tennis.
Looking at the top english players and their place in the world echelon, the following rankings hightlight this:
260 J Baker 375 T Henman
266 J Goodall 386 R Bloomfield
271 A Bogdanovic 474 J Ward
329 A Slabinsky 508 E Seator
By: Muppet on June 16, 2008
at 9:41 pm
We’ve won nothing with Foreign XI, the only team winning are teams with foreign/English. We also won things a couple of years ago with foreign/English.
It’s obvious to me that we can’t achieve anything by selling our English boys only to be replaced by average foreign players who can’t put their feet in.
Since the so called foreign technical players came we’ve been losers all along.
It’ll continue until Arsenal changes everyything and revert to foreign/English. Arsene won’t change to help Arsenal so I’m happy Blatter will force his hands to change soon.
By: Howard on June 16, 2008
at 10:08 pm
Muppet
So English are not in the top sports bracket, where do you place the French? Well, Tiger Woods is not French neither is Hamilton, right?
The French also won the World Cup only once and in their own country other than anywhere else. So what makes you think that French-filled Arsenal can win the EPL and CL for us?
If they’re technically better than English players, let’s see them win the World Cup outside their own borders to prove it.
By: Howard on June 16, 2008
at 10:16 pm
“If they’re technically better than English players, let’s see them win the World Cup outside their own borders to prove it.”
They won a Euro championship outside their own borders. They also reached the final of a wc outside their own borders. Both are far superior achievements to anything England has ever achieved.
What have English players won? One world cup, no Euros, never reached the final of either competition again.
How many English players are sought after by the top clubs? How many French players are sought after by top clubs? How many scouts do Real Madrid, Milan, Barca, Inter send to England v. France?
France can produce Henry, Vieira, Zidane, Platini.
What can England produce?
The following French players are all on the radar of Europe’s top clubs: Benzema, Nasri, Ben Arfa, Ribery, Gomis. That’s just a sample.
Which English players are being looked at by Europe’s top clubs?
By: NYmarcus on June 16, 2008
at 10:48 pm
Agree with you completely Howard.
I’ve compiled a list of some current and previous non french world champions to completely back up your argument:
Aryton Senna
Muhammed Ali
Lance Armstrong
Roger Federer
Valentino Rossi
By: Muppet on June 16, 2008
at 10:52 pm
Muppet, those people cannot be champions because they are not English.
By: Steve on June 16, 2008
at 11:04 pm
Touché
By: Muppet on June 16, 2008
at 11:08 pm
You still don’t get it Howard, we will make the English players we need…we will not buy them. It’s plain stupid to pay 30 million in a player when you teach a better young one for less than half the price.
***Quit reading Myles Palmer’s crap***
By: Gunner4Ever on June 16, 2008
at 11:15 pm
howard aw j bought a welsh lad called aaron ramsey another potential star to add to another future champion wallcott.And guess what he’s english to, so how the hell do u say gunners dont buy british. They j wont buy players like gareth barryetc,because of the inflated price of established players of english football,why would u when england stars couldnt even qualify ahead of russia who were belted by spain, with of course cesc scoring.
By: downunder gooner on June 17, 2008
at 11:39 am
and iagree with gunner4ever we have a good bunch of english youngsters coming through(gibbs,lansburyetc) and if they develop their talents and be patient aw will give them a chance.AW prob shot up from buying francis jeffers with a reasonable sum of cash and getting what a , deal that repaid nothing but a loss of faith in overpriced english players,look at spurs and their buy of marcus bent what a joke but f tops it happened to those clowns. Dont forget a another top foreigner we had in the bergster(dennis bergkamp)
By: downunder gooner on June 17, 2008
at 11:58 am
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at 6:19 am