Arsene has been busy in the transfer market according to the media without actually signing anyone but never let that stop a journalist from conjuring up a half-baked story. It is not as if they were new ones either, Obafami Martins from Newcastle (but he is not leaving said Kevin Keegan en route to the Blaydon Races) and Yaya Toure from Barcelona perhaps before Guardiola takes over, maybe not ever. The former was heavily touted as Henry’s replacement – if he was not considered right for the job then why now? – whilst the latter has been arriving at the club for about the last three years, linked by blood with either sibling pushing the case for Arsene signing Yaya at any given point in respective transfer windows.
Taking both players, Toure seems a more natural fit into the current set-up than Martins. There is to my mind a more urgent need for a defensive midfielder who has an awareness of the responsibilities of playing for a big club. Whilst Martins knows the English game, he would not be my first choice as a striker if Arsene were to buy a player in that position who is currently plying his trade here. My preferred option would be Santa Cruz at Blackburn on the basis that he seems to be a more intelligent player. That observaton may be wrong and unfair to Martins. However, the biggest drawback is the suggestion that he is a scorer of spectacular goals rather than having a spectacular scoring record.
Aha, big fella, you cry; how does Arsene afford this? How about one Toure = a Hleb plus £2.5m and a Martins is £8m. Net spend is £5.5m leaving room for a Ben Arfa and a Dunne if that takes your fancy although unbelievably he is now linked with West Ham at £6m. Or one Toure = a Hleb plus £2.5m with Santa Cruz in at a starter for £10m, leaving room in a £25m budget for a Ben Arfa. Throw in a Senderos to Blackburn at £2.5m and there is still a decent sum to buy you a foreign centre-back. Increase Arsene’s pocket money by £10m and there is enough change for a Richards and a bag of Humbugs, which is perhaps an apt place to leave the suggestion that I am getting the hang of this transfer rumour malarkey.
Recent news has not seemed to be positive as Arsene noted a couple of days ago. Since last Friday though Emmanuel Adebayor has been forthright in commiting his immediate future to the club, once more repeating his denials of wanting a move. Well, wanting a move right now. Football has moved well away from the previous culture of players staying at one club for more than three to five years. That is not to say that all players seek a move every couple of seasons, the vast majority do not but the footballing workplace is becoming more akin to ‘normal’ working life amongst that age group where progression is sought albeit at a heightened and more mercenary rate.
Patrick Vieira has come in for some criticism over his comments about the perils of the squad disbanding. Whether the former Arsenal captain should have said those things is a matter of personal opinion. I do not see anything wrong in him voicing them, he has played for the club and understands the pressures that the frankly absurd quantities of money offered by other clubs bring. Heightened feelings at this moment in time given the departure of Flamini and the uncertainty over Alexander Hleb’s future are making supporters more sensitive to criticism. If people stood back for one second and ignored the headline grabbing sentences, they would see that what Vieira is saying is no different from any of the rest of us,
If they start losing players like that it could be a worrying time for Arsenal. I think it is important for the team to stay together. They would benefit from staying together and playing together for longer. They are a young team and they must stay together if they are to be better than last season. I think they need experience – one or more players. They lost crucial games this season, maybe down to a lack of experience among the players. I don’t believe Arsene Wenger should buy stars. I think the way they are is fantastic. Maybe they need one or two players that have experience at the key moments.
Indeed, he is more in line with Arsene’s thinking than some of the speculation at the moment. Stars are fine and dandy but not necessarily the solution; experience is the key as well as continuing to build for the future. The money that Arsenal can offer is not as much as the bigger clubs but recent financial decisions preclude that. How long the ’straitjacket’ is kept on for remains to be seen. Prize money can make a difference but as Robin van Persie observed, winning and winning in style counts for a lot. If trophies follow that can to a certain extent offset any financial shortfall for a player. Arsene’s methodology has given the club a foundation upon which a successful future can be built. The season just ended has shown that hope is not misplaced; delivery in the short-term is now equally as important to ensure the longer term.
Off the pitch, Stan Kroenke is being used to buttress the board against Alisher Usmanov even if there is too much emphasis being placed upon signing a marketing agreement, a totally different kettle of fish to a non-sale agreement. Whilst it is an indication of Kroenke’s commerical confidence in his enterprises and their relationship with Arsenal, he will be pragmatic and if a buyer came in for the club with a plan that suited him, he might not be so supportive of the current board. Oh and there is ‘transfer’ speculation about whether it will be the Brady Bunch or Harrods who occupy Edelman’s seat in the boardroom next season.
And as we have come full circle with speculation topping and tailing the middle bit, it seems a fine time to draw a line under today’s post. I’m off to see The Charlatans tonight so enjoy your day because I am going to enjoy mine. ’til Tomorrow.























I’m seeing Dinosaur Junior tonight – must be a day for gigs.
I think the Hleb swap idea has legs. we have an asset that other teams want badly. we need to use that to get players that we might not otherwise we able to get. If wenger wants a player from Inter or Real or Barca then he should be thinking along those lines. Hleb is still worth £10m if more than one big club are interested in him.
Also, would much rather see Senderos sold and Song kept than Senderos kept and song loaned with a view to selling him next summer.
Senderos is great 95% of the time, but his out of the blue mistakes have really taken my faith in him away as it does not even need a particularly good piece of quality to cause the mistake – he can make them at any time.
By: gazzap on May 15, 2008
at 9:56 am
We should buy Yaya and Dunne and have a set up like this:
J. Hoyte – K. Toure – R. Dunne – G. Hoyte
J. Dunne – Y. Toure – Gilberto – Gilbert
Not for the sake of tactics, but just because it would confuse the living daylights out of the opposition having so much players with the same name. Imagine the commentary…
By: Blackstock on May 15, 2008
at 10:00 am
the charlatans….you bastard
the new albums mega
By: andy on May 15, 2008
at 10:00 am
Saw Dino Jr. last year. They were LOUD, but good. Lou Barlow was in a joking kind of mood.
By: Le Bob on May 15, 2008
at 10:04 am
Well guys, i have a hunch that we will announce a signing today – either Benny or Yaya. Dont ask me why i think this, but i do…..
By: rico on May 15, 2008
at 10:10 am
we want to see this players to the team am tired with this speculations
By: anderson on May 15, 2008
at 10:11 am
We seem to be forgetting that we need to sign a goalkeeper..
By: stonroy on May 15, 2008
at 10:21 am
do we really need a keeper – fabianski looked real confident against sunderland, i think if he gets his chance and plays very well, he could soon be the no1 – i just dont see the boss buying a keeper, he trusts almunia wo has just renewed his contract, and i believe he will settle for what we have.
RIP Tommy Burns
By: rico on May 15, 2008
at 10:30 am
Brilliant piece YW.
You seem to get so much out of so little & still make sense.
The waiting & seeing goes on.
By: Flint McCullough on May 15, 2008
at 10:37 am
i would luv to see Arsenal’s lineup as follows for next season:
1.Almunia
2.sagna
3.clichy
4.Toure
5.Albiol
6.yaya Toure
7.V.persie
8.cesc
9.Gomez
10.Adebayor
11.Ben Arfa
By: harlex on May 15, 2008
at 10:38 am
Rico I hate to say it but mad Jens was a way better keep than Fabianski and Almunia…We need someone like Gomes. Almunia made the saves you expected but never the saves you hoped for….
By: stonroy on May 15, 2008
at 10:38 am
Two players that’d do very well for Arsenal: Luis Suarez of Ajax, and Sergio Aguero.
They’re two of the best in Europe, and they’re not big names. Aguero is a bit lightweight I have to say and might not be able to cope with the physicality of the PL.
By: Ole Gunner on May 15, 2008
at 10:44 am
let us applaud and appreciate adebayor..when the fellow possible was our best player last year..he is the one who reiterating his support for the club..he cud easily try to attract some attention and ask for contract renewal..
yaya toure is big name and big names dont come to arsenal..he already choose barcelona and very reputed player..why wud barcelona sell him and why he would want to come to arsenal..he wud definitely fancy more trophies with barca..
martins isnt coming..if he didnt come last year he wont come this year..no fwd is coming..we have ade rvp..and sufficint back up in theo vela and bendtner..or we can play only 1 upfront ..till dud comes along..no space for fwd then..
richards isnt coming to arsenal..he is big name and big price..who was the last popular name we signed..
yes i agree..we need to check on goal keeping options also..i also agree with viera..and am sure arsene is looking into squad loyalty and retention as well..
By: adc on May 15, 2008
at 10:46 am
You are right Stonroy, Almunia never pulled a surprise save, its all those you expected him anyway. Lehman of cause made those two horrible mistakes, but remember how he did miracles (against madrid comes straight in my mind) and some saves especially quick reactions in parrying away for corners shots to the far corner etc. Gomes is the most ideal replacement in my eyes, commanding frame on corner kicks,shot stopper, penalty saver the list goes on…………and obviously he has done spurs before……….legend in my books
By: brinso-gooner on May 15, 2008
at 10:51 am
Yes, but Mad Jens has packed his bags stonroy, i just think Arsene will not spend money in this department. Not unless one of them gets a serious injury in the closed season, or leaves.
i cant think of many goals we conceded where i just totally blamed the keeper (other than Jens at the beginning and the carrick free kick at manure)
for me the defence was sometimes so disorganised the keeper was left totally exposed. when kolo and sol were together, we were more organised and jens was lucky to have them in front of him. but the three of them trusted eachother so it worked.
if we sure up the defence, it will again make the keeper more confident and assured
By: rico on May 15, 2008
at 10:52 am
i would luv to see Arsenal’s lineup as follows for next season:
1.Almunia
2.sagna
3.clichy
4.Toure
5.Albiol
6.yaya Toure
7.V.persie
8.cesc
9.Gomez
10.Adebayor
11.Ben Arfa
Harlex suggested the above line up but i would rather replace Almunia with Gomes then if fit, i would have Rosicky in and take out that gomez guy………well because i dont know him….and i think Rosicky gives us something we lacked this year. Of cause i would maybe swop him position wise with ben arfa
By: brinso-gooner on May 15, 2008
at 10:56 am
talking of Tomas – he has had his op and reckons this should finally sort his injury problem out – back in training in 8 weeks time.
for his sake, oh, and of course ours i hope he is finally going to play regular, he is a super player and we have dreadfully missed him on the left, and he scores goals
By: rico on May 15, 2008
at 11:01 am
Interesting that none of these ‘fantasy’ line-ups include Walcott, someone who Arsene has identified as being a player who ought to be a starter next season.
By: Yogi's Warrior on May 15, 2008
at 11:13 am
Can anyone stick this Diarra fool who comes out mouthing off against Arsenal?
I am pissed at Arsene for selling him. He should have relegated him to the reserves till he learnt his lesson.
I think the guy must be the greatest moron I’ve seen till date in football. The same idiot who refused to play in the FA Cup for Arsenal is now talking up his FA Cup run. Can you believe the depth of stupidity?
What has this little cunt ever achieved in his life to justify this kind of arrogance and mouthing off? What has he accomplished as a footballer?
What a fool. What infuriates me about the cunt is the disrespect to the other players, the manager and the club. You come into a team in which the Captain of Brazil is on the bench and you expect to just walk in.
This guy won’t make it in football- I best my last dollar on it. His attitude stinks and someone needs to teach him a lesson.-
By: Ole Gunner on May 15, 2008
at 11:16 am
We absolutely do not want Martins. He runs like a headless chicken and won’t score many.
Yes to Ben Arfa and I would love to see Arshavan from Zenit St P’s.
No to Dunne [we can surely do better than that].
How about Jimmy Bullard or Barry. I think that Bullard is underrated and Barry would give us a decent left foot and some decent free kicks.
Yes to Albiol and Villaand YaYa.
Of course we won’t gat all these but three would be good. I don’t think that we need a keeper. Almunia is OK, Fabianski looks to be gaining confidence but the the best of the lot, potentially is the young Pole who playes for the u18’s.
By: Stuart on May 15, 2008
at 11:25 am
Blimey – the whole world has gone all Championship Manager on us!!!
Yogi,
Im sure we have agreed before that we dont need a new GK or Striker??!!??
WHy do people feel the need to say we need to sign people like Gomez, when i am sure the majority of us havent even seen him play!
People just jump on the media bandwagon of players.
Arsene will no doubt sign a couple of players we have never heard of – lets hope they are as good as Sagna!
And i know i keep banging on about Arshavin – but 2 assists last night in one game… thats more than Hleb since Xmas.
By: Matt on May 15, 2008
at 11:36 am
Matt
I would agree that GK / CF ought to be lower on the list of priorities than DM / CB. Indeed, with a GK I just cannot see it happening. Fabianski will get time in the CC & FAC with MA taking PL / CL. Mannone will get any crumbs if we need him.
YW
By: Yogi's Warrior on May 15, 2008
at 11:46 am
Almunia/Fabianski
Sagna/Eboue – Kompany/K. Toure – Gallas/Djourou – Clichy/Shorey
Walcott/Nasri – Fabregas/Rosicky/Denilson – Y. Toure/Song/Diaby – Ben Arfa/Vela/Traoré
Adebayor/Bendtner – Van Persie/Eduardo
By: El Tommo on May 15, 2008
at 11:54 am
Hleb moans about life in a big city, perhaps prior to signing a player not aware of what London is Leboss should show them around Enfield and meet the locals. Hleb lives in the flat formaly occupied by Edu and Vivas. This one the flat that appeared in newspapers as Vivas forgot to pay the bill and Edu had to show the baliff his sweet Arsenal contract showing his enomous salary.( Pretty lucky he didnt try to show him one of his Ahem! Passports!
I went to see the Charlatans at Sheppards Bush last year and used my phone to video the boys doing weirdo, i was then pounced upon by a woman under instruction from the bands management to get me to delete what i had filmed. cant fathom what the feck was wrong, as i had already downloaded the single and the album was available on the Xfm website for free! Didnt get tickets for the new shows as a result fecking management!
By: Darren Clark on May 15, 2008
at 12:04 pm
I am disappointed with the lack of respect towards Almunia. to say he did not make any good saves this season is totally disrespectful to a man that has given 100% all season. I bet you cheered his penalty save v spuds. was that a save you EXPECTED him to make?
Arsenal TV showed a montage of some of his saves and general dominant goalkeeping (catching from corners) and I can promise you he made plenty of saves that you could not expect a keeper to save. I like him and he wont be replaced this summer so please just stop criticising him now because its pointless.
By: gazzap on May 15, 2008
at 12:42 pm
No need for keeper, Almunia does the job very well.
As for all those potential signings, I have to agree with Viera. We don’t need stars, what we need is a good centre half and a central midfielder.
All these names popping up are just that, names that pop into the head of reporters thinking up stuff to write as the have no inside knowledge of what’s going on.
I get the feeling that these writers don’t even know the players they talk up.
IMHO Yaya – not that good, yes he had a good semi against Manu but he wouldn’t bring to us anything we don’t have yet.
By: dfunkydog on May 15, 2008
at 1:22 pm
YW good job.
But why are you starting this CM playing frenzy. I guess we are in the summer already, here in this part of the world it is hard for us to keep up on your seasonl changes except thru football rumours.
AW buy who he will buy and thanks for all the suggestions folks but no thanks.
Up The Arse!!!
By: Malaysiangunner on May 15, 2008
at 1:46 pm
yh these names we hear about coming to Arsenal are just thrown about by people who want to make a story from nothing.. but still most u fans keep believing in them!! why why why!!???
we all know Wenger will bring in a few players that we would never expect so what is the point of guessing and causing unnecessary speculation. Wenger knows what type of players we need and he will get them. SIMPLE AS. For you people who just luv to guess ur just going to get disappointed.
The only way we are going to challenge next year is to add to our squad anyway, so whats all the talk about getting rid of Gilberto, Senderos, changing our keeper!!! who by the way i cant remember any mistakes throughout the whole season!!! absolutely rediculous.. Almunia is class – well done again to Wenger when every1 else lost faith in him he gave him his chance again and we have never looked bk since.
Really hope we get that Ben Arfa, he looks real quality and has amazin ball control. But because that 1 has been thrown in the media i have my doubts too.
By: chris GOONA on May 15, 2008
at 1:47 pm
So far we know Martins,Dunne, Ben Arfa, YaYa Toure, WILL NOT COME TO AFC AS THEY HAVE BEEN MENTIONED IN THE PRESS.WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME A PLAYER TOUTED IN THE MEDIA EVER ACTUALLY ENDED UP AT AFC?
By: solgooner on May 15, 2008
at 2:17 pm
how about the line-up below? strengthens the defense (esp. centrally); frees up the wingbacks (who are good crossers) to be more attacking; plays hleb & rosicky more centrally (which is to their liking)
Almunia
Sagna K.Toure Gallas Clichy
Eboue Song
Hleb/? Cesc Rosicky/?
Adebayor
By: in2 on May 15, 2008
at 2:37 pm
oops i meant
————————Almunia
Sagna———K.Toure——Gallas———Clichy
———-Eboue ——————-Song
————Hleb/? —Cesc —-Rosicky/?
———————Adebayor
By: in2 on May 15, 2008
at 2:40 pm
gazzap
while i totally agree almunia has came up with some fine saves this season…. i really rhink jens was a much better goalie than him… and fabianski can be too but his frame is a bit small but makes it up with his excellent reflexes.
U cant judge a goalie on the saves he made…. u have to judge a goalie on the saves he could have made….
I am in favor of fabianski here.
By: sagna_fan on May 15, 2008
at 3:15 pm
S i take it you guys dont see anything in the reports liking zarate to us….
By: Silver Gunner on May 15, 2008
at 3:16 pm
The guy is just as good a dribbler as Hleb plus he knows where the goal is.
By: Silver Gunner on May 15, 2008
at 3:18 pm
YW your blog rocks dude.
By: Silver Gunner on May 15, 2008
at 3:18 pm
#”U cant judge a goalie on the saves he made….u have to judge a goalie on the saves he could have made….”#
That is completely irrational.
I can’t judge you on what you HAVE written, I have to judge you on what you COULD have written.
I have decided that what you could have written is nonsense, therefore…
Get the point?
By: Josef K on May 15, 2008
at 3:31 pm
Amen, Joseph K!
I wish people would stop going on about buying a new keeper because IT’S JUST NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. Regardless of what we may think of Almunia, it’s been made very clear by Arsene that the Spaniard is now our first choice keeper. He’s got a longterm contract with us, we already have 2 reserve keepers on contract, and Almunia has declared his commitment to the club for the rest of his career.
So suck it up, people: whether we like it or not, Almunia is here to stay as our #1, end of.
Concentrate on higher priority positions.
I sympathize with Ole’s rant against Diarra. Why he had to launch into yet another (his umpteenth) diatribe against Arsene is beyond me. The guy really holds some kind of personal grudge against Arsene. He talks with such rancor.
I think it was gazzap who recently mentioned an article about the dismal history of what happens to clubs who buy a new stadium, and how we’re doing remarkably well given that history. Can anyone provide a link or reference?
Finally, I’d like to have your opinions on Diaby as a DM. A lot of gooners seem to think this is a reasonable expectation. Arsene himself has mentioned it. But I’m just not convinced Diaby can play effectively in a defensive position. He’s just naturally very offensive oriented, to me he looks like a player who’d feel lost as a first choice DM.
By: NYmarcus on May 15, 2008
at 3:47 pm
Diarra’s last rant was ridiculous and unnecessary. However, I don’t understand people’s continued animosity towards him. He made a choice and left. Wenger felt that choice was wrong and there is no doubt that he should have been more faithful. However, early in his career he was told he was too small to make it and it is no doubt that which has made him so sensitive to coaches who doubt him and so eager to show what he can do on the field. He is young and wants to play. What is the problem with that?
The most important point is, I don’t think that he was a poor fit for Arsenal. He tended to hold onto the ball far too long and his passing was not crisp.
By: California Gooner on May 15, 2008
at 4:05 pm
At least we shouldn’t have any of that crap about needing a foreign investor we had to put up with last summer. Liverpool have hopefully put that to bed.
By: Marc on May 15, 2008
at 4:51 pm
California, I have no problem understanding Diarra’s frustration at not getting on the first team (tho I do wish he’d been more willing to fight for his place) — I wasn’t holding any hostility toward him, I’d forgotten all about him and moved on. But then he starts up again with his rancorous comments about Arsene and the club; and then he compared Arsene to Mourinho, saying he prefers Mourinho. If he’d just STFU, there wouldn’t be this kind of response from gooners like me and Ole.
By: NYmarcus on May 15, 2008
at 4:57 pm
Ole Gunner;
Time will teach Diara whatever he needs to learn. I believe after a couple of seasons with 2nd or 3rd tier clubs (out of top 4) with no offers from Man U and Liverpool(already left Arsenal and chavskis) he will grow up, become wiser, and even more grumpy for his mistakes. meanwhile, I will be too occupied singing praises for our players and tell a glass of whiskey in my hand how good it will look in a brand spankin’ new arsenal kit, to give a damn.
By: TayGoon on May 15, 2008
at 5:07 pm
NYmarcus,
I agree with you about Diaby. For me he is the understudy for the Cesc role, or with Cesc & another holding midfielder, or the Hleb role in a 4-5-1.
He can defend but he is not a natural. I think getting the best out of what could be a truly outstanding player is one of AW’s biggest challenges.
On the Almunia subject, I am with Gazzap & JK. If you look at the goals he conceded, I think you will find no complete cock-ups, a couple of should have saved & very few might possibly have saved.
We know he is not the best on the planet but he is solid, reliable & , at his age, coming towards his peak years. I would certainly prefer him to Reina & put him on an overall par with Van de Sar, Jaskelinen & Given.
A solid keeper is better than a brilliant one, who has a tendency to throw a few in, eg David James.
By: Flint McCullough on May 15, 2008
at 5:09 pm
My dream team (realistic fantasy team) =):
———-Almunia——————-
Bac—Kolo—-Gallas———-Clichy
Rosicky—-Song—–Cesc——-Hleb
————Adebayor—–RVP——-
Bench
Walcott
Gilberto
New Wide player
Eduardo
New Keeper
Diarra: The guy always annoyed me. He’d been at Arsenal 1 month (1 month!!) b4 he started to mouth off. And his poor attitude is tolerated by the pundits who somehow make it Arsene v Diarra. It’s Diarra v right attitude.
And a lot of gunners act like he’s Diego Maradona or something, and should have been appeased.
By: Ole Gunner on May 15, 2008
at 5:09 pm
People do have a right to give their opinion on what they think the team needs, and if a gk then thats ok! i for one agree but do believe that Alumina has done a very good job. maybe arsene will never look at another GK but its just an opinion and to tell you the truth 99% of what is written here will most probably not pan out as far as who we would like to see at Arsenal.
We all are somewhat playing the manager when we talk about what and who the team needs. With that in light we do not have to jump on another person’s viewpoint because we do not agree or even see the need. Objective and opposing opinions is what makes this a joy to do.
Have Blessed Day all!!
By: Paul N on May 15, 2008
at 5:13 pm
very interesting interview with clichy,www.france football.fr
By: algerian-gooner on May 15, 2008
at 5:14 pm
http://francefootball.fr/FF/breves2008/20080515_102653_clichy-je-reste-a-arsenal_Dev.html
By: algerian-gooner on May 15, 2008
at 5:17 pm
OleGunner, I’m with you on Diarra. Who the hell is he? He was warming Chelski’s reserves bench (not first team) until we signed him and got him out of his misery then he thinks he is god’s gift to Arsenal.
Players like that we don’t need in our team. They can go spread their sh*t somewhere else. We can always sign better players than him, and we will…then everyone will forget about him.
By: Gunner4Ever on May 15, 2008
at 5:23 pm
JosefK
Started spinning around your web again huh.
So you are saying to me Almunia is better than Jens…then he should have played rather than Jens all these years.
Do you find anywhere the stats of number of saves by a goalie?? Why is the clean sheet given more credibility???
Ever thought of that dumbo??
Any top class goalie you name Buffon, Cassillas, Cech are not known by the number of saves (and mostly routine) saves they make, they are known due to their important saves in crucial moments….which I dont think Almunia has made a lot (apart from Keane penalty) this season… which Buffon or Cech might have pulled off or mayb even Jens. And I dont rate him as a first choice goalie ever.
I mean common u cant be serious to see Almunia punching to clear the ball from the corner and be as wowed as you seem to be Josef.That is suppossed to be routine.
If you really have seen the whole season… Almunia was more than a few times beaten on his near post.
Renewing his contract by wenger is just keeping your back ups safe when they are on a high.
Wenger once touted him as one of the best goalies in the world….are you kidding me Josef???
Where do the Buffon, Jaskaleinan, Van Der Sar, Cech, Cassillas, David James go????????
Wenger saying something like that means only one thing he wants to keep the man as his number2.
Fabianski is a much much better goalie and has a much better reflex.
You like to judge too much.. but just cant…Just stick to your story telling.
By: sagna_fan on May 15, 2008
at 5:28 pm
Arsenal are tight with the funds and it will cost them once again. Its great that they develop such youngsters but these kdis cannot with the trohpies without veterans.
As United will spend, Chelsea have and will, and Liverpool should be active, I hope you club does what needs to be done and spend.
By: Cesc Fabregas on May 15, 2008
at 5:29 pm
Why do people keep saying you can’t win with kids. History is replete with great teams of kids who’ve not only won but dominated. Of course you’ll never find any such team with just kids, but the Arsenal core isn’t so young. Gallas, Toure, Gilberto, Fabregas, Hleb, Rosicky are all very experienced player, and most of them are close to their peak age.
By: Ole Gunner on May 15, 2008
at 5:33 pm
Skill-wise, Diaby is more suited for DM than AM. Yes he can shoot, which is an added advantage. He is strong and in numerous times when he is faced by 3 or 4 opposing players in a scramble, he tends to come out with the ball. His defending is very good, but since he was mainly deployed as an attacking player, he had to be more adventurous (in defence you counter, in attack you instigate), to the point that people try to take the same performance in an attacking role and apply it into a defensive role.
If you play Cesc as a CF, I doubt if he will pass the ball as much as he does, simply because his role will be different.
When evaluating players for a position, I have found it useful to only base on skill and ability rather than performances in different roles.
By the way, how would Adebayor fair as a Centre Half????(a budy of mine threw that to me and I have to agree with him that he will be superb, but too bored)
By: TayGoon on May 15, 2008
at 5:38 pm
We need a new keep. Almunia doesn’t cut it at the top level. I played the position for many years and yes Matt I have seen gomes in action, he is bloody great, quick to the ball and quick and powerful on release. He also is a great Marshall of his back four, something the big Spainard is not yet. I like Almunia but I just don’t feel he is great…Good but not great. Also Gazap an example of goals he shouldn’t have let in;
1)Drogba’s second goal at Chelsea
2) C Ronaldo’s easy tap in at home
By: stonroy on May 15, 2008
at 5:50 pm
Guys Diaby needs to work on his workrate if he is ever to be a defensive mid I would love him to be the that but his natural impluses are to dribble offensively.
By: Silver Gunner on May 15, 2008
at 5:51 pm
I remember Diaby’s first games for Arsenal. her played in central midfield and looked good there if I remember correctly. He has pace, and energy but he’s too injury-prone to play that position. I think he’ll remain a versatile player who’ll plug holes. I particularly see him playing just off the main striker in an offensive role.
By: Ole Gunner on May 15, 2008
at 6:12 pm
Yeah he will prob just remain a squad player…
Shame becuase like you when he was signed i had high hopes….
So no one here sees any truth in the Zarate rumours, also a shame?
By: Silver Gunner on May 15, 2008
at 6:18 pm
Silver Gunner;
That is where skill comes in. More skilled players don’t need to run like they couldn’t find their heads, to make an impact. Take Cesc for example, or Eduardo who seems to get you a goal with seemingly no effort whatsoever.
My oppinion;
A common misconception this season has been that Flamini allowed Cesc to venture forward and score goals. Actually, his forays all over the place would leave his partner alone hence make him want to “hold the fort”, if not him then the defense, which would also explain why we found it hard to deal with long direct balls. People were all-over the place and it takes time to re-organize and in that duration, we are suspect at the back.
Cesc, as the entire squad came into the season hungry. I am not suggesting that the hunger somehow vanished, but when opponents discovered our weakness, he had to be more cautious and “stick-around” a bit more. Remember finding Cesc in a significant number of defensive situations? That is the role of DM. Cesc would have done the same, even better with a composed DM like Gilberto. Anyone will agree that we wouldn’t want Cesc/Theo/Hleb/Any of our MF/ST be the last man defending a Torres of Drogba.
By: TayGoon on May 15, 2008
at 6:30 pm
Sagna Fan
You appear to have missed the point by about as much as an Emmanuel Eboue shot on goal.
I was trying to illustrate that making a judgment on someone or something based upon your perception of what might happen, rather than the past history of what actually happened would be wrong.
My example was meant to show that judging you on the merits of what you have written is rather fairer than judging you on the merits of what I ‘expect’ you to write.
I am sorry if this is a little to nuanced for you, it didn’t appear to be for anyone else.
You seem to be putting rather a lot of words in my mouth illustrating what ‘you believe’ I think about Almunia. Given I did not write a word about the man it is fairly puzzling why you have chosen to do this.
#”Fabianski is a much much better goalie and has a much better reflex..”#
I disagree with this point, from the games Fabianski has played it is clear that he is yet to command his box with enough presence, preferring to stay on his line too much. He doesn’t come out as quickly as Almunia to sweep up, and has looked nervous on each appearance. However I am not passing judgment as he is very young for a keeper, so we shall see in the fullness of time.
As far as Almunia goes, I agree with every word Flint has said and so shall not repeat it.
On the subject Diaby and to answer NYmarcus, I don’t know if he is going to develop his passing and reading of the game to succeed in the defensive role. He dwells too long, too often picks the wrong pass and regularly tries to beat one man too many. I see him more as a destroying, rampaging Vieira type player in a midfield central three than a holding player.
By: Josef K on May 15, 2008
at 6:33 pm
Diaby’s only problem is that there were other MF ahead of him. As for injury prone suggestion, should RVP and Rosicky considered Squad players???
That is why I wouldn’t like to see another signing in that department to replace Flamini and Hleb (Whom I would be happier if he leaves than stay), unless it is a developmental/future prospect. We will be killing Diaby and Denilson, not to mention the Randalls, Merida, Barazite, Gibbs & CO. which we will have to do another Bentley on.
By: TayGoon on May 15, 2008
at 6:40 pm
Josef K;
Deployed as an advanced player, you are supposed to try and beat your opponent if you want to advance the ball, otherwise pass it backwards. Also if there are no suitable outlets, you have to keep the ball. Having no one playing ahead of him, he has a perfect excuse for holding(dwelling) on it, and take on defenders. A nice thing about being a Central midfielder is that you almost always have a 360 deg field of possible outlets, and in defense, almost everyone is ahead of you. That doesn’t mean in his new role as DM he will always behave like a LM. He is right footed I believe, which makes crossing on the left a hard task which would make him want to come inside and he has to beat someone to do that.
By: TayGoon on May 15, 2008
at 6:53 pm
Its confirmed Vela is coming back next season we are in the process of applying for a work permit now:)
By: Silver Gunner on May 15, 2008
at 7:14 pm
veryfied by the arsenal website:)
By: Silver Gunner on May 15, 2008
at 7:16 pm
Yogi your dedication to providing us with fine analysis everyday must be commended. Good comments as usual.
Diarra is an idiot!Nuff said.As for the Fabianski vs Almunia debate. Almunia is taller which automatically makes his movments seem awkward in comparison to Fabianski. He is less vocal than you would expect some keepers to be. But dont forget Fabianski let in 6 at Spurs n Lehman let 4 in at OT.Was that all the goal keepers fault!does that make them both crap.
You will find if you put some thought to it that Almunia was let down by his defence on some of these occassions. The keepers you mentioned …Jaaskerlinan, get called into action more often because there teams are under the cosh more so they bloody need to make saves an they get to show their skills more often. And one must not forget Manuels save against Spurs or when he throws the ball the length of the feild to create a scoring opportunity for Ade.Jens was a good keeper not only because of his madcap personality but also becoz of having a good defense in front of him. In both Fabianksi and Almunia we have 2 decent keepers.Whether they turn into the next Jens remains to be seen.
By: Gooner4Life on May 15, 2008
at 7:23 pm
Diaby doesn`t have the tools to play DM in my opinion.
It`s a position that requires keeping things simple & not giving the ball away cheaply – two things that Diaby finds extremely difficult.
For all of his obvious technique & talent he is still short in team play.
Maybe (as mentioned earlier) his best position is in the middle of a central three.
By: Paulie Walnuts on May 15, 2008
at 7:34 pm
Taygoon,
Thats fair comment, I hadn’t factored that into my thinking.
However I still have reservations about his distribution, but perhaps as you say he takes more risks due to his position in the field.
My heart tells me I would like to see Diaby given a run in that position, but my head says we need to get a Flamini clone – this is mainly due to the energy and commitment Flamini provided.
By: Josef K on May 15, 2008
at 7:37 pm
JK
It clicked for me after the very first time i read your previous comments.. but sry if it didnt for you.
The thing I wanted to point out is you cannot judge a striker (no of goals and not number of misses) by the same logic as you should judge a keeper (no of clean sheets and not number of saves)….and basically no one does.
So your point
“I can’t judge you on what you HAVE written, I have to judge you on what you COULD have written.”.. is… you know a bit tough on my understanding.
I never said something like…you should judge a striker by the percentage of his shots converted to goals and not the number of goals instead…coz tht way torres would be the golden boot winner and not ronaldo…
Goalies are seen differently from the rest of players on the pitch ..surely this is not news for you.
“I was trying to illustrate that making a judgment on someone or something based upon your perception of what might happen, rather than the past history of what actually happened would be wrong.”
In case of goalies…what “MIGHT” have happened carries HELL lot of sense. You are more than clear to me….hope I put my point across at last.
Agreed Fabianski has looked unsettled coming out of his line and defending setpieces….. but looking at how he doesnt take chances even by kicking the ball and handles it most of the times…. it is more of a build up to his Euro campaign and hence building his confidence before starting the next season with us….rather than committing Lehmanesque mistakes just at the start of his career. Just extra cautious…nothing more.
And ohh btw Diaby sucks…..maybe his best position is same as Hleb’s…I am not his huge fan anyways.
By: sagna_fan on May 15, 2008
at 7:39 pm
There goes sagna_fan again!!
God this is fun.
By: gunner4life on May 15, 2008
at 7:41 pm
I bloody bet my life on fabianski making his mark next season….and if we win the epl it will be with him and not Almunia!!!!
You mark my words G4L.
By: sagna_fan on May 15, 2008
at 7:47 pm
As far as I’m concerned, Almunia is good enough to win trophies with. Look at the goals scored during the Feb-March swoon:
Birmingham-McFadden had a great free kick and Clichy made a mental mistake resulting in a phantom penalty.
Villa-Poor defending by Sagna and Gallas resulting in a Senderos OG.
Middlesbrough-A long ball off a goal kick is misplayed by Gallas and Toure.
Wigan-0-0 draw
The defense is the more pressing issue, and should be addressed first. Almunia manned the box well enough for Arsenal to win the league. I don’t think anyone would argue he’s a world class keeper, but I don’t see how spending on improvements there would do a lot.
One thing I’d be curious to see is whether Djourou could cut in at DM. He’s stated he prefers MF, but I haven’t honestly seen enough of him to tell. He’s certainly big enough, but I wonder about his pace.
By: mike on May 15, 2008
at 7:50 pm
For me we have got very good defenders already altho a bit wanting in terms of aerial dominance…with few good training sessions if we manage to keep 3-4 clean sheets at the start of next season, we would be much more assured about defending our leads.and all these confusion will go.
But wo any doubt i guess we would al want those 1-0 leads to be at least 2 or 3-0 leads esp against lesser teams…. and that directly mean more goal scoring threats from midfield….can we finally have Kranjcar/zarate please???
By: gunner4life on May 15, 2008
at 8:09 pm
Ole Gunner, did you SERIOUSLY say Aguero isn’t a big name?!
By: crafty bison on May 15, 2008
at 8:25 pm
What’s Maxi Rodriguez doing nowadays? He really impressed me in the last World Cup. Also has anyone mentioned Ismail Aissati for the creative midfield role in Hleb’s place? Perhaps a couple of years young though.
By: crafty bison on May 15, 2008
at 8:29 pm
Obviously Arsene didn’t jump on the “Get rid of Eboue” Wagon and it seems he is not going anywhere. I honestly think Eboue can be a good squad player next season to fill in the gaps as needed. Although he is not the best winger ever to grace the right side, he provides protection for Sagna on that side.
Arsenal & Arsene confirmed they applied for Vela work permit, and Wenger thinks he is a striker not a left winger! Is that mean he will play him in Eduardo position and buy a left Winger? Maybe. I still find it amazing how most of our players fit in many different rules.
By: Gunner4Ever on May 15, 2008
at 8:50 pm
G4E
Apart from our CB problem and despite Eduardo’s injury, Rosicky was a vital player we missed. At the time he had scored 7 goals and got injured in January. 3 additional goals preferably in the EPL could have secured us the title. Imagine Rosicky scoring 1 each against Boro, Villa and Liverpool all at home goals?
Rosicky’s injury was a big loss as well.
By: Howard on May 15, 2008
at 9:35 pm
mike
Against Villa, you’ve blamed every defender except the one who actually kicked the ball into the net. Incidentally, non of his mates forced, pushed or held him to do so.
Almunia is just okay not extraordinary, otherwise you would have the Barca’s and Real’s coming for him because he’s Spanish.
Almunia is just okay but very poor with ground shots. Near post shots often beats him too. Is he a title winning goalie? I don’t know; I disputed that before but some of the goals he failed to save this season were a bit questionable though. Howevr, GK is not on Arsene’s table this season.
By: Howard on May 15, 2008
at 9:46 pm
I’d be interested to know how many of you making these lists of players Arsene ‘must’ buy also had Florent Malouda on your lists last season? I’m just saying like….
By: Passenal on May 15, 2008
at 10:02 pm
Howard are you on Almunia’s back again?
By: Steve on May 15, 2008
at 10:19 pm
I’d likre the discussions to focus on what went wrong in the ff games.
Midlesbrough away
Birmingham away
Villa at home
Goaless draw at JJB
Unless you understand a problem properly, u have no hope of ever fixing it well/
Come on Gunners!
By: confidentgoner on May 15, 2008
at 10:19 pm
Fair observation Josef K.
DM is a position on the field I would prefer composure and skill rather than energy. I might be the only arsenal fan who viewed Flamini as risky the entire season. Having played all positions myself in an almost non existent career,(yes forced to be a utility man, not by choice) I found it easier when a DM doesn’t have an energizer bunny tucked somewhere inside him, that goes crazy all the time.
Although it is not an attacking position, it forms a solid springboard for the AM to launch attacks. The situation gets a bit tricky when you have full backs and Central defenders who think they are strikers/wingers(spoken in a good sense)
By: TayGoon on May 15, 2008
at 10:27 pm
my opinion:
Boro away – excusable and did not really affect the games that came afterwards.
Birmingham away – Eduardo’s leg nearly amputated, Adebayor not squaring to Bendtner, stone-wall penalty against Ade not given, non-penalty against us not given; a freak of a game.
Villa at home – we cannot complain about that game in terms of performance, which was less than decent, but salvaged a point. any side in the history of football has games like this.
Draw at JJB – Hleb not shooting, missing Eduardo, vP and Rosicky.
I’d also like to highlight the fact that Chelsea’s first goal against us was offside, as was Boro’s goal at the Emirates.
Don’t know if this adresses your questions directly confidentgoner, but anyways.
By: salo_gooner on May 15, 2008
at 10:28 pm
A very good point Passenal. I really cannot understand this need for 4-5 players. We only need to replace any departures and add max 2 players, a CB and a creative midfielder, (excluding the returned loan players) to have a winning side.
The left and right wings are not a problem as we never play that way anyway. All our midfield players change position and the full backs play as wingers.
By: Steve on May 15, 2008
at 10:28 pm
The birmingham non-penalty against us WAS given, of course.
By: salo_gooner on May 15, 2008
at 10:29 pm
Boro away, Aliadiare was offside.
Brum away, Dodgy ref plus Eduardo’s crippling tackle.
Villa Home, we were not at the races.
Wigan at JJB, what a SHIT pitch to play our style of football on. (Strange how it was fixed for the Man U game).
By: Steve on May 15, 2008
at 10:34 pm
Strange how the penalties at Brum and the one at Emirates against Liverpool in CL (both stonewall were not given) but the ones against us in the same games (both dodgy) were.
By: Steve on May 15, 2008
at 10:36 pm
The Liverpool one was at Anfield. (Surprise)
By: Steve on May 15, 2008
at 10:37 pm
Steve, I noticed the same in the Man Ure game. The pitch at the JJB was 20 times better than when we played on. I think that’s when Wenger says he know managers that cheat in the game, that’s the great example of it. Everyone knows with the kind of football we play, the pitch is very important.
But to be fair, we as a team should be ready for anything they put in our way, a bad pitch, physical challenges from stupid “English” giants, stupid “English” referees.
By: Gunner4Ever on May 15, 2008
at 10:50 pm
I agree G4E, but Wenger has had all this crap from his time in France. I (and Avram Grant) still see the PL helping Man U as best they can. It seems the Premier League are run buy Man U supporters. Or is it that the PL want to keep on the good side of the media.
By: Steve on May 15, 2008
at 10:56 pm
I can see us getting that zarate!! a typical wenger buy , he will be cheap, he is unproven and he is skillfull! I think he is a good player but i dont think we need him, is he just a striker or can he play wide? if he is just a striker we dont need him coz we got theo!!
By: dukeGoonem on May 15, 2008
at 11:07 pm
I think it happens in all countries Steve. In my own country the Media, Authorities, referees, FA always favor one team. Only because they consider them the poor peoples team, or because they have more fans than other teams.
Of course guess who I was supporting, the team that used to never get anything in their favor, am I lucky, or what?
By: Gunner4Ever on May 15, 2008
at 11:10 pm
Seems u are unlucky as well G4E. But at least we get to watch the most honest at breathtaking team to watch (maybe eboue is an exception).
By: Steve on May 15, 2008
at 11:15 pm
Yep, the funny thing the team I used to support in my country used to be nick-named “The Engineers” because they used to play relatively like Arsenal. They also won the title undefeated, I think the same year 2004 but of course no one heard about it
So there is a reason for supporting my awesome Arsenal.
By: Gunner4Ever on May 15, 2008
at 11:43 pm
If someone would pay me £1 for every player we have been linked to in the years since Wenger has been manager I would be a wealthy man.
By: Steve on May 15, 2008
at 11:48 pm
haha steve true true but we love the speculation well i do at least!!!
By: Silver Gunner on May 16, 2008
at 2:16 am
Steve
We need to strengthen more than replacing the 2 that are leaving. There are inherent weakness in the team both psychologically and technically in the team. Defence is one and leadership the other. Plus balance of left footed players. I get distressed when people say we do not need a natural LW as we do not play there anyways. It escapes me completely that fellow fans do not see it. Both LB/RB and LW/RW needs to be able to interchange and need to be able to cross well instead of needing to cut in all the time.
A for leadership we need a better captain than Willy and steadier players all round. Keep Bert plse.
Up The Arse!!!
By: Malaysiangunner on May 16, 2008
at 3:58 am
All
I find Diaby written off too easily. He is big ,strong and have excellent close control( ala Hleb). His passing is suspect only because of his decision making but that will improve with training. His dribbling skills are also good. So one correctable defect. Once he learns to tackle better and pass well. He will be a world beater.
He will replace Hleb as he can shoot very well too and has no problem doing so.
Up The Arse!!!
By: Malaysiangunner on May 16, 2008
at 6:20 am