Posted by: Yogi's Warrior | May 4, 2008

Everton Preview

Everton arrive at The Emirates this afternoon knowing that a point will secure them European football next season following Aston Villa succumbing to Wigan yesterday. With that in mind, it will be no surprise if they string five across the midfield in an attempt to secure a repeat of last season’s draw at The Emirates.

In this morning’s Observer, they produced a raft of statistics that showed the various top passers, scorers, etc., by team and individual. It is no surprise to read that United had the most shots on goal both on and off target. What might surprise people is that Adebayor is marginally more accurate than Ronaldo, Arsenal are only just shy of United in shot conversion.

What is evident though is emphasising everything you knew about Arsenal; five of the top ten passers are from the club with Fabregas, Clichy and Flamini occupying the top three slot, Hleb at five and Sagna ten. That he has been offered a new contract already by the club is good news on two fronts. Firstly, it is recognition of his season. He has been so consistent that at times it is difficult to remember this is his debut season for the club. More importantly though is the fact that the club are being proactive in retaining the services of key players. This is a change from recent seasons when they have tended to focus on the top names. It needs to be more focussed on the whole of the squad, not just the relative few.

Back to the stats. They give the overall impression that United pose more of a threat to the opposition, rightly or wrongly. It also creates an impression that United put opponents under more pressure. They are the top tacklers in the country, Arsenal not registering in the top six. They have scored more and conceded least. Most of this will be derived from their home form; United have been pretty much phenomenal at Old Trafford, dropping just five points all season. The Emirates has yet to inspire capitulation in the same way Old Trafford does. An undefeated season would help that but there is still a perception that Arsenal can be blocked out in a way that United do not allow opponents to. That will improve over time but it is a slow process.

Arsene yesterday moved to quash speculation about Alex Hleb’s future stating that he was not for sale. As rebuttals go, it was not convincing simply for the fact that if Hleb does decide to leave then it will be his decision not the clubs, using the provisions of FIFA Article 17. Nothing that Arsenal can do about it yet it is worth provoking the player into a response by perhaps starting contract negotiations. Any reluctance upon Hleb’s part should be viewed with suspicion in those circumstances. Yet we all assume that Wenger wants to keep him. Perhaps a more accurate reflection might be that he wants to keep him right now.

One area of doubt has to be the lack of goals. For all of the appreciation I have of him as player, and he is hugely talented, I do wonder if he has reached his plateau? It seemed at the start of this season he might have addressed the issue but he slipped back into old habits of spurning shots to pass to a team-mate. Hleb freely admits that this stems from his youth when it was drilled into him that he had to “pass, pass, pass” but he needs to free himself from those mental shackles if he is to improve his performance level. Undoubtedly he has been destabilised by his ice cream in Milan but the question yet to be answered is that why a happy player would have attended such a meeting in the first place? He had to be unsettled to even consider it given the situation surrounding his tutti-frutti.

Back to Everton. There seems little room for Arsenal to juggle the squad. Fabianski ought to continue in goal, it is all good experience. Denilson in the centre of midfield will find Everton a different kettle of fish to woeful Derby. However if he is to develop into the player that he has the potential to then this is the sort of game where he has to learn to impose himself upon. The only possible experimentation would be to put him on the left, Gilberto in the centre and Walcott as support striker to Adebayor, dropping Bendtner to the bench. There seems little point in that to me but you never know what weaknesses Arsene has seen until the match unfolds.

Apologies for the lack of links to The Observer article but this is being typed in a well-known coffeehouse on the way to the game and with their charges for the twenty minutes I have for typing, it is pushing it a bit. Enjoy the match wherever you are watching it. ’til Tomorrow.

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Hleb’s shooting ability comes down with not having a powerful shot whatsoever. He doesn’t have to confidence to shoot. That being said, we need to hang on to him. He has had a good season, no question. With Vela coming into the equation next year and Walcott finally coming good. We have pacy players on the flanks.

I am also not a Eboue hater either. He is a 2nd right back and has improved on the wing. I expect next season that he will be better. I can do without the antics, but it isn’t the end of the world. Biggest question would be intelligence as a footballer.

My major concern for next year would be keeping RVP and Rosicky fit. I think that questions need to be asked about RVP’s fitness. Quality, yes, but always getting hurt. If we are going to challenge next year, we need him to get through a whole season without niggling injuries.

The stats don’t seem to appear on the Observer web page, YW.

With regard to the tackling, if it refers to the number of tackles then you don’t need to tackle if you have the ball. Possession being 1 stat I would have thought we would top.

This will be a difficult game today, because Everton will be motivated to grab their Uefa place, while we will have an experimental side out.

I would like to see Nick & Theo start up front, Song in CM with Denilson & Djourou getting a game.

Dealing with modern agent driven players must be a nightmare.

AW has indicated that there is a general agreement with the G14 clubs that they would not use the Article 17 rule against each other.

I am also glad that Sagna is being offered a long term contract, even though they don’t really seem to be worth the paper they are written on from the clubs point of view.

When Bristol City got into the old 1st Division, in the 1970s, they put most of their players on 10 year deals. They were literally bankrupt within 4 years.

We need to buy a top class striker and not depend on RVP, clearly from the what we have seen over the last few seasons tells us he will not last an entire season. Hence we should not depend on him.

YW

What do you mean by dropping Nik to the bench? So you still don’t appreciate this player who’s scored 8 this season coming off the bench?

YW, give him a break, right? Ade scored 4 goals in his first season coming in January and having starts. Again, Ade scored only 12 in his second season starting almost all games.

I’m surprised you downplay the efforts this boy at 19 has made in his first season.

Arsene knows what the boy can bring in as a developing striker. This season he saved us against obvious defeat to Villa and Liverpool and won crucial 3 points for us against Spurs. Arsene values him if you don’t.

bendtner will always play second striker… he doesnt look to be prolific by any stretch of imagination…. and ade works for his luck… nik doesnt even do that… just ambles on if things arent going well for him…. sharp contrast to someone like dudu or vela… who come to life when they have the ball and when they dont work very hard to get it back…..
never mind….bendtner has his big ego without the goals of ade.

jus like its very easy to look intelligent without speaking… its very easy to score the odd goal and look a good footballer without trying hard.

YW

Nik did his part this season and deserve to be given more chances to help the team.

If Eboue had scored only 3 goals instead of scoring nil and providing only 1 assist; we could have won the title.

1. Eboue scored against Villa at home=3 points
2.Eboue scored against Boro at home=3 points
3. Eboue scored against Chelsea away=1 point

These are games he had chances to score and capitulated

Arsenal points 77+7=84

We will be coasting to the title

Please, YW, look for players who offered nothing to the team this season and not Nik Bendtner

Nik should partner Ade, playing just behind him like at Derby and keep Theo on the wings.

no one is downplaying his abilities which he doesnt show enf..

out of those 8 goals i remember the one against tottenham was the only winner… and i think half of them came from corners.

and ohh… one very important save he made for liverpool against “us” UCL 1st leg quaters… thts a very important save… sell the f***er to liverpool… at least he will help us next time when we play against them… that egomaniac.

“If Eboue had scored only 3 goals instead of scoring nil and providing only 1 assist; we could have won the title”

If bendtner dint play in the quaters against liverpool…we wud have been in the finals.

If dudu wasnt injured by that p.i.s.s drinking d.o.n.k.e.y taylor, we wud have won the title..

If toure hadnt equalised against Aston villa i think and gallas wouldnt have scored the winner against chelsea…we wudnt even be in the title race till now..wasnt bendtner playing at least from the bench in few of those 4 games tht led to the title slipping away??????

ohhh or Was he waiting for the UCL quaters to display his “world class” skills in front of opp goal?????????????????

If game is fun to play.

G4E

Should’ve sold wasteful Ade last season to Pool. Nik will score more goals if he gets half the chances Ade gets. He’s a better finisher than Ade.

G4E

Have to watch the game, I’m off.

It is a myth that Hleb can just buy out his contract and leave under Article 17. This is usually only quoted by people who haven’t bothered to read it. If Hleb (and/or the club) wants to avoid potentially serious claims for breach of contract and a possible ban from playing he has to show ‘just cause’. Under the FIFA definition that isn’t the case here.

The rules and regulations can be found here. Pages 14 & 15 detail Article 17:

http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/affederation/administration/regulations_on_the_status_and_transfer_of_players_en_33410.pdf

all you who says bendtner is useless, you don’t know shit!
this boy is FULL of talent, and seriously, if it was between him and ade, i’d choose nik ANY TIME.

Everton will be well motivated today whereas we have only pride to play for with an outside but highly unlikely chance of 2nd place. We are also without many first team players, but hopefully the ‘fringe’ players will take this as their opportunity to stake a claim for a more regular place in the team next season.

Re Bendtner and Ade, why does it have to be either/or? They both have something to offer the team and they can play together if given time to develop a relationship. I thought Bendtner did well in a more withdrawn role when Ade came on against Derby.

The explanation for our lack of tackling could be the fact that we retain possession so well, that we consequently don’t have to do as much tackling as other sides.

Amos,

Players who are eligible to buy out their contracts can breach & terminate them without just cause providing appropriate compensation is paid to the clubs that they are departing from.

In addition, such players may or may not face a short ban before they can start playing for their new clubs, but that’s decided on a case by case basis.

MaccieD’s have free wifi these days YW!

You do of course have to eat s**t while you’re there tho.

im reading because eboue missed 3 chances we failed to win the title! LOL
i dont know what funnier some of the posts here or derby being the worst team ever WITH a game to spare!
i think nik done ok for his first first top flight season along with walcott this year! he’s worth keeping & will improve vastly nxt year! players like him, song, vela, walcott. song will improve markedly nx season! like half of our team being 23 & under! if we make even half the jump we made this season we’ll sweep all before us! the only question is right now to replace flam(if he’s def gone) & NOT LET ANYONE LEAVE! even gilberto we should keep! we’ll c what how the boss decides to fill the second midfield position! i suspect he’ll give song/denilson/diaby a chance to show how hungry they are…but really the position i’d say we would need to buy is CB…we need a top class defender to keep gallas & kolo on their toes! if it was up2 me i would test milan’s resolve for nesta (he’s like 30-31 so wont be more than 15 mill)..best CB in the world!

i think we see the best toure when there’s a leader next to him, i think gallas is a very good defender but not the leader we need, plus as many have said him & toure are too similar!
ppl talk of a midfielder coming in & taking charge… but i think we need a defender to come in & take charge…we have the best fullbacks in europe4 gods sake! plus any good team needs more than 2 good cb’s..chelsea..rc, alex, jt, manu ferd, vidic, brown, liverpool etc!(every single one a cunt btw) i feel for senderos but i think he’s had more than his fair chance! im sticking with nest..if not him go for someone like marques! he’s strong & rediculously talanted on the ball! see him at the world cup?? can play dm too! but obv wenger will go for a nobody..should be interisting!

Passenal is right, Ade & Bendtner can both be in the squad.

Bendtner has done quite well but not as well as he expected he would but at 20 he will get better.

Ade has 4 years on him & was very raw when we signed him.

Good news on the Sagna contract. He`s been a fabulous signing & continues the legacy in recent years of quality full backs following Dixon & Lauren on the right.

I`m hoping for another good performance today (& a win) with the younger players like Song, Bendtner,Denilson & Walcott continuing their progress.

Everton are a more than useful side so it`s a good test for our boys.

they have no chance …they will be taken to the cleansers I just hope birthday boy gets on the scorers sheet…any soccer lover who will like to interact with other fans and dicuss any soccer related issues should check out Soccer fan base dot com it is free to join.

Magneto, players can buy out their contract at ANY TIME provided they are prepared to pay an amount acceptable to the club. In essence thats what all transfers of players still under contract are.

Article 17 doesn’t set the amount because consideration has also to be given to national contract law. Not only could the player serve a ban based on the circumstances but the buying club could be banned from registering players for 2 years because it will be deemed to have induced a player to breach his contract if they sign a player who has breached his contract without just cause.

It really isn’t as simple as just paying up the value of your contract or wages due.

Not too keen on stats myself. teh only ones that tell the story are the win, lose and draw column in the league table at the end of the season.

There is too much difference/nuance in the nature of the shot/pass/tackle to make any conclusion accurate. Ok so we do the most passing out of any -we all know that already - but how effective are the passes? How easy are the chances that Adebayor misses? Did he have better options than to shoot?

In sum, you have to actually watch a football match to knwo whats going on. Reading about it afterwards on the internet, whilst maybe fun, is not the answer.

blackorwhite.euweb.cz

Although a crappy game, Song was outstanding and if Flamini goes he should fill in in Midfield helping out Galas and Toure and being able to go forward, his heading ability is what we need. Traore on left midfield showed that he will be in the reckoning next year,but Ebuoe was his usual self.

Eboue is not a winger - hes an attacking full back and should be Sagna’s deputy next season and never used in midfield again. I have to say though his attitude stunk in todays game. He really needs a clip round the ear.

Song looked strong in the tackle and read the game quite well today snuffing out evertons danderous balls forward. He still learnin though and shouldnt be relied upon as a starter in defense or midfield just yet. he seserves some significant playing time next season. Gilbertos replacement ?

Denilson did quite well without ever dominating the game. He was rarely wasteful with his passes and got about the everton midfield players well.

Bentdner had a quite but efefctive game. Deserved his goal. Another goal for him against Sunderland next week will take his tally to 10 goals. A good return for an up and coming striker. I hope he can push on again next season and provide some real competition for Ade.

A pretty dull game made worse by everton only wanting a nil nil. Im gald they didnt get it

Eboue did stink today, but the whole game really was so boring apart from the time Traore came on. He showed he is not afraid to cross the ball, and take on defenders, so he can be another option on the left.

Song was man of the match for me, was everywhere, tackled well and was in the right place at the right time. Should only get better.

Not sure why people are attacking both Ade or Bendtner? Ade is older, been around for awhile with Monaco and Arsenal so he is ahead in that sense. Bendtner, is doing well with 9 goals and I actually like him in the dropping behind role which RVP was doing in the last couple of games.

I think Bendtner is improving on every front, even his relation with Ade and teammates. Lay your hand off both.

We got the three points, let’s hope the Chel$k$ lose :) kind of difficult but who knows.

song was outstanding really… but he wasnt challenged with much speed… and johnson isnt the kind of player who is as strong in air like berba or drogba….. interesting to see how he fares against jones of sunderland… but still he is a very gud CB.

I remeber wenger being asked abt why song is in the squad last season… and the reply was that he is very good in one v one situations particularly… and thts wat we saw tonite. gud to see sendy back.

Bendtner was pathetic for most of 1st half eboue was his usual self… denilson looked good.

Bendtner played well 2nd half… but I really cant see him fitting to our style of play…and walcott is still raw.

G4E

‘Sell the fucker to liverpool’ you opined about Nik Bendtner.

Well, the fucker gave us 3 points today and the top, top striker continued to wates chances.

YW also said he should be benched.

Both G4E and YW you should swallow your big humble pies

Good lesson for you.

G4E

Your hypocracy is amazing. You criticised Nik badly just a while ago and I was after you; suddenly you’re praising him.

Wonders will never end.

wen did i praise him??

Is saying he played well for half an hour on the pitch means praising him?? then i must be crazy about clichy and song.

I am sticking to my opinion that he isnt the striker we are looking for.. neither is Ade.

“G4L”

and for the records….bendtner is pathetic…. just what i had said… scores most from headers in front of goals… and you cant score 20 goals like in a season… his ground play sucks…worse than ade

G4E

Oh! if only others had utilised their headers too? We would be smiling with the title under our ampits.

Well, if he scores from all his headers that will be great for the Arsenal, meaning more goals for us. Goals are goals whether headers or not.

At least, he gives us plan B option and is not as wasteful as someone I know who wasted clear chances once more today.

We know what, I saw Arsene jump up after his goal; Arsene felt great.

Typical end of season stuff made more difficult by us missing our creative players & stubborn opponents but still a good win all the same.

Song was excellent & I was glad Bendtner got the goal too. His arrogance seems to be going - perhaps he`s growing up.

Traore looked promising when he came on. I`d send him on loan next season along with a few others, including Denilson.

Eboue had a nightmare

Paulie

Who’s more arrogant? Nik and Ade. Check Ade’s goal celebration and see how selfish and arrogant he is.

Well, very normal with him, he wasted many goals today.

Paulie

Who’s more arrogant? Nik and Ade. Check Ade’s goal celebration and see how selfish and arrogant he is.

Well, very normal with him, he wasted many goals today.

Good question Howard,

They probably both are but Ade seems to be able to get away with it. Thirty goals this season has helped.

I`m hoping they both have long successful careers with Arsenal

In many ways today we showed our desire to get the win wen it was all set for a goalless draw…and like Arsene I jumped off too coz of tht very reason… clichy is superhuman… frm left back to left wings.. to center striking position to rite wing… i mean wat energy he has got is beyond me to comprehend. traore did well but consistency is wat we need not cameos.

Howard… I dont question Bendtner presence in air…But would you have another Ade in place of him (few pluses and few minuses) or someone like dudu??? Both Ade and Nik are nothin more than 2nd choice strikers for me. And its either Ade + “dudu kind” or Nik + same…
Ade alone is much more viable than Bendtner alone upfront… Thts how he limits our chances…doesnt hold the ball well enf to add to his woes.

I have nothin more to say… If you have someone like fabregas making all those chance…and someone upfront who just scores frm headers…its beyond me how he can fit into this team…other than coming frm the bench and playing as an impact player.

Feel sry for Eboue…he seems to be frustrated…never mind his antics… but its hard to take wen you have been made to play on the wings just to feed the crosses wen you are a decent rite bak… adding sometimes to the attacking play. Again its wenger’s fault…really wenger cant sell him now….will hate him for wat he has done to him and Gilberto.

Wenger’s idea pre season of eboue feeding crosses to Ade hasnt been the way this season…

Ade’s goal tally of 30 and the way they have come has surprised wenger more than evone else.

Wenger is responsible for the utter failure of the transformation of Eboue to the wings.

Now Eboue getting the slack instead of wenger isnt fair.

He really should accept this and switch Eboue as a back up to sagna. Anything else he does… I will lose a lot of respect for the man.

G4E

Do you know why Arsene went for Sagna? Eboue was the root cause of our defensive lapses last season. Arsene tried to help him by pushing him ahead so if he’s failing there too then he better start preparing to leave.

He’s actually a waste of space and hasn’t got the quality to play for the Arsenal.

His record playing at RW and getting into scoring positions are:

No goal
1 assist

Is as bad as it can be.

The idea of converting Eboue to RM hasn`t worked & the evidence is it never will.

AW has a history of successfully converting players to new positions but he`s been wrong this time.

The worst thing is that, as a result Eboue has `lost the crowd` & even when he`s at right back his game seems to have suffered.

He seemed to be approaching meltdown at times today & even a simple short pass was beyond him.

I feel sorry for the bloke.

howard… u r making me lose my identity.. G4L it is.. G4E is another bloke… who is…well gunner 4 ever.. :D

Anyways.. its obvious eboue(for that matter anyone)cant take the place of sagna… but if he is out with injury..who do we have?? hoyte… I would prefer Eboue over hoyte anyday. And also keeping him on the bench adds to our virtually non existent plan B…which Bendtner has to be a part..else he has got no part to play i feel.

If song does well against Jones in the last match.. I will be convinced we wont need another CB.. considering Denilson is for sure making tht Flamini place his own. Of course playing alongside fabregas and gilberto is different proposition altogether… and the pair will blossom I have a feeling…

song makes me so calm when the opp has the ball… just the apprehension tht I have abt him matching upto someone like Drogba…. but I have a feeling he has it in him.

I wonder what role Toure is going to play once sagna is bak??? Gallas and toure arent playing alongside thts for sure. CDM?????

And also I would love us to play a formation
4-1-3-2
sagna-song-gallas-clichy
toure/????
fabregas-denilson-vela/rosicky
RVP Walcott/Ade/Bendtner

Our 2 full backs are so full of energy and our apparent non existant wingers make it useless trying to attack with ground play frm wings… occasional crosses will come with sagna and clichy…. i feel its worth trying….seems more logical.

Traore said Wenger wants him to be more of a midfield player and he certainly made an impact today. With him on the left and Clichy behind its a superfast combination, and his defensive skills which are not great still come in handy
G4l you are counting on Vela fitting in right awayand Rpsicky and RVP being fit thats higly unlikekly

gunner4life, I didn’t get to see the game today, but Eboue’s frustration is not about playing right midfield. I would go as far as to say that I think his problem in general is a very low tolerance for frustration and something of a short attention span in general. He seems to either give up or lash out when things aren’t going his way. It probably hurts a lot that the fans are so down on him, and the more he wants it (the goal) the harder it becomes. If he can learn to control his frustration (not easy) I think he can be the footballer Wenger hopes he becomes. If footballers are allowed to take Adderol or Ritalin, maybe that would help.

Considering there were only 4 established 1st team players on the pitch, I thought the lads did well. I was especially pleased that they managed to win ugly, which many have been saying we are incapable of doing.

G4L

I’m taking note of your complaint, mixing you up with G4E who I actually interact often with on this blog.

Song is a developing player but I don’t think he’ll be playing Cb for us coming season.

I believe Arsene is grooming him for the DM position and thus his current CB job is meant to polish him up and improve his tackling ability.

I like Song now, he’s just grabbing the opportunity offered him; the same chance which Senderos and Djourou never bothered to take serious.

Howard you are right Song will replace either Gilberto or Flamini, he gets better with each game, he was injured at the ACN where he was fantastic, and its taken him a few games to get back to his prime, but he certainly showed it today. I shuddred when Senderosa came on fearing just one crucial mistake

Howard

Why do you not read posts before commenting. I said the only room for experiment that Arsene had would be if he dropped Bendtner to the bench.

To save you reading it all again, here is the relevant extract:

The only possible experimentation would be to put him on the left, Gilberto in the centre and Walcott as support striker to Adebayor, dropping Bendtner to the bench. There seems little point in that to me

Humble Pie? After you Dear Boy.

YW

Well, I thought Eboue had a decent game. He will improve a lot if you stop bashing him after every game he plays. He had a couple of decent crosses, only Ade to f**k them.
I rate Eboue and he gets more than 60% right of his general play. He can get few passes wrong, even Fabregas gets some wrong.
He is so scare of you that sometime you can see how reluctant he is going forward, shoosing to make a back pass instead, as he fears getting the next cross wrong, including shooting.
Does any of you Eboue haters know anything about football?

I used to believe that Eboue was wrongly maligned and that he had great potential. However over the last few months there has been little positive in his play and he doesn’t seem to be even trying. He is clearly lost his confidence completely and really needs a rest or a move away. He is just not helping the team at the moment.

I JUST HOPE YESTERDAY WAS THE LAST GAME THAT USLESS PILE OF CRAP EBOUE EVERY PLAYS FOR ARSENALHE WAS EVERTONS BEST PLAYERWHY CAN”T WENGER SEE HOW BAD HE IS?

GREAT TO SEE THE GREAT JENS COME ON>HE IS AN ARSENAL LEGEND THANKS FOR THE MEMORIES JENS

I JUST HOPE YESTERDAY WAS THE LAST GAME THAT USLESS PILE OF CRAP EBOUE EVERY PLAYS FOR ARSENALHE WAS EVERTONS BEST PLAYERWHY CAN”T WENGER SEE HOW BAD HE IS?

GREAT TO SEE THE GREAT JENS COME ON>HE IS AN ARSENAL LEGEND THANKS FOR THE MEMORIES JENS

I JUST HOPE YESTERDAY WAS THE LAST GAME THAT USLESS PILE OF CRAP EBOUE EVERY PLAYS FOR ARSENALHE WAS EVERTONS BEST PLAYERWHY CAN”T WENGER SEE HOW BAD HE IS?

GREAT TO SEE THE GREAT JENS COME ON>HE IS AN ARSENAL LEGEND THANKS FOR THE MEMORIES JENS

Peter, Why can’t you understand football? This Ebue bashing has got to stop. Agree he has not scored and has a misplaced pass here and there, but he is :

a) Very fast
b) Can dribble even on one on one situations
c) Has defensive ability
d) Can make good crosses

My bet is that next season AW will work on his confidence and his shooting and you will still see him!

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