Posted by: Yogi's Warrior | April 2, 2008

Strangers When We Meet - Liverpool Preview

And so it begins. The trilogy of meetings with Liverpool commences this evening with the Champions League first leg. The usual references to last season’s cup meetings have been played out, even though those fixtures are irrelevant, a footnote in the history in both clubs.

Anyone looking for a pointer as to how this quarter-final will play out need only look at the meetings between Liverpool and Chelsea in this competition over recent seasons. I am fully expecting a tight affair which if this evening ends with ‘Liverpool 0‘ at the end of it, will be a good result. A commanding lead for next week’s return would obviously be ideal but nonetheless as the 2006 run and the victory in the last round against Milan proved, a clean sheet at home is of equal import.

The win at The Reebok at the weekend came at an opportune time and one would hope that the efforts of the ten men were not too telling, especially with the extra day to recover than Arsenal would normally have for a midweek home match. Arsene observed that the victory arrived at an opportune moment,

We needed the win because when you don’t win for a while, it plays on your mind. It was a good way to prepare for Liverpool on Wednesday

The manner of the comeback, despite Bolton’s position in the League and their form, is the key to matters. Had the team been low on confidence, put simply retrieving a two goal deficit with ten men would have been unlikely. Despite the damage done to the title challenge by the series of draws and defeat at Stamford Bridge, they have dusted themselves down and returned to winning ways. Whether that is a permanent return remains to be seen but the signs are hopeful at the very least.

Defence is perhaps Arsene’s biggest conundrum. Moving Kolo Toure to Right Back and bringing Philippe Senderos into the middle did not provide any more security in front of Almunia at the weekend and this evening the central threat from Torres will require more vigilance than recent weeks. If the weekend’s formation is kept, simply put, more concentration is required as last night’s other quarter-finals proved with two of the three goals scored over both ties being down to lapses in marking and application.

In midfield, there is a strong case for the inclusion of Theo Walcott from the start. His pace would keep the Liverpool midfield occupied and perhaps on the back foot if he gets enough support from Toure. He did well in both defensive duties and in attack in the final half an hour at the weekend, perhaps sufficiently pressing his claims for inclusion. The rumours surrounding a quick pay-off to Southampton came at a curious time. I say curious but perhaps fortuitous for Rupert Lowe who has demanded an EGM to remove some of the Southampton Board. I wonder if the two could possibly be related.

In the centre, Flamini - whose reported move by L’Equipe to Juventus was rubbished by Arsene yet again - and Fabregas are likely to be worked hard by Gerrard, Mascherano and Alonso. Fabregas meanwhile has been looking ahead,

I am dreaming of playing in another Champions League final. If it is against Barcelona it will be difficult because they have a great team. All I want is another chance of playing in a final, whoever that is against. If we won, then in five years’ time nobody will care who the opposition was…But this is what we have been given and we have to deal with it

He might dream but he will be woken up pretty quickly with some close attention from his opposite numbers. He played coy on Spanish radio about his role in the team and then gave himself a big ‘up’,

I am still a youngster here. When you look at the team I am still one of the youngest and am still a boy really. I do feel important and for any player that is vital

Equally important is going to be Alex Hleb. Whilst Fabregas draws the pundits plaudits, Hleb is due a ‘big’ game and tonight would be the ideal opportunity for him to supply Robin van Persie and returning Emmanuel Adebayor with the ammunition. It has been a while since an Arsenal forward scored from open play - Adebayor in Milan the last, I think - and hopefully the penalty at Bolton will have boosted the Dutchman’s confidence because his shooting boots were a tad wayward still aside from that moment.

I suspect the line-up for tonight will be

Almunia; Toure, Gallas, Senderos, Clichy; Eboue, Fabregas, Flamini, Hleb; van Persie, Adebayor

with a bench of

Lehmann, Hoyte, Gilberto, Diaby, Walcott, Bendtner, Song

Whatever happens up front, the mantra of ‘clean sheet, clean sheet, clean sheet‘ should be heard emanating from the Arsenal dressing room. I have confidence that they will score at Anfield and one goal might be enough.

Enjoy the match wherever you are watching it. ’til Tomorrow.

Responses

I say put Eboue (as much as I despise him) on right back and put Toure back in the centre of defence. A player with Torres’ abilities would play around with Senderos I believe. He’s exactly the kind of player Senderos would have problems with. It could go both ways though, either Senderos will have him firmly in his pocket, or Torres will roam around freely, there is nothing in between.

Come on Arsenal, really feeling excited today, a buzz in the air, here’s hoping for a magical night.

Arsene talking today about the promise of Walcott at the moment, but when to pick him. Sounds to me as if he will play Eboue tonight, Walcott Saturday. As much as I really feel Walcott deserves the start tonight, and the team could do with him, I can’t complain about that more conservative stance, the last thing Arsene wants to do tonight is concede a goal. Anfield is probably the last place you want to be on earth though, if the game is tight going into the second leg. On the other hand, from speaking to Liverpool fans, Arsenal are just about the last team on earth they wanted to face. There’s a real feeling that we are Liverpool’s nemesis, as opposed to Liverpool being Chelsea’s nemesis.

Both Cesc and Ade need to be in top form Cesc has not had many great games since his injury at Seville except for San Siro, and Ade since his haircut has gone off the boil, Senderos is not good against fast strikers and gives away impetuous fouls, if Song had more games since he came back from unjury I would prefer hi, and I feel if he comes on a s a sub he can make an impact, hes more mobile than Senderos or Giberto and hes good in the air. If Walcott doesnt start he should come on after 60 minutes as Caragher, and Hypia do get tired. PLEASE HOPE THERE IS NO LACK OF CONCENTRATION DURING SET PIECES, AND RVP FINDS HIS SHOOTING BOOTS.

I am a bit worried about Senderos v Torres but otherwise I am confident we can outplay Liverpool tonight.
I will feel better when we get to 60 mins without conceding! then Walcott will come on for Senderos, and Eboue will move back to RB. then Arsenal will press for goals. we need to get to half time at 0-0 and I will feel good.

I think both teams game plans will go out of the window, and it’ll end up messy, 2-1 or 2-2 either way, I hope Arsenal can be on the winning end of a 2-1. To do that and get a 0-0 at Anfield would do it.
I don’t think we can manage a clean sheet against Liverpool so focus must be mainly on attack. We’ll be lucky if we get a clean sheet, everything points against it so expect them to score. Only 2 goals or more will win the game for either side.

Lehmann

Justin Hoyte, Senderos, Toure, Clichy

Fabergas Flamini Hleb

Walcott Adebayor Van Persie

Bench: Almunia, Eboue, Gallas, Gilberto, Bendner

Start with 4-3-3, when a goal is scored, sub Hoyte with Eboue, When 2 up, sub Walcott with Gallas, Van Persie with Gilberto and play a defensive 5-4-1 With Adebayor as the lone striker

My team to win this game.

Almunia.

Toure- Gallas- Senderos- Clichy.

Eboue- Fabregas- Flamini.

Walcott- Adebayor- Hleb. 4-3-3.

Then, bring in RVP for walcott in the last 30′.

RVP, since his coming back, I really doubt we have been playing well as we did against AC Milan, because we are really short in middle as the result of his presence. But my main worry about him is that he can’t find his shooting boot at the moment and time is running against us. We play much better with only one striker up front.
I see Walcott much better player than RVP at the moment; instead of permuting him with Eboue I find very useful for the link between defense and attack, we should sacrify RVP for Theo who looks a real deal for me at the moment.
Kolo is for me the natural replacement of Sagna(they both play the same way). We need Senderos at CB, as Crough will play.

Arsenal 3- Kop 0.

hmm sendy v torres…i think we mite be for a surprise frm wenger…i think toure will return to center bak while eboue + walcott will be on the wings…

sendy vs torres is a fearsome pair and will bring way too tension to us.

3 - 0 TO THE ARSENAL.

A RVP HATTRICK IS DUE THOUGH 3 OWN GOAL WILL JUST AS WELL DO AT THIS RATE.

the more goals the merrier so what of an ade brace? maybe he should reserve that till sat…

I think if we win tonight we’ll go through, anything less and Liverpool will be in the semi’s…
I fully expect Ebouie to be at right back with Gallas & Kolo in the middle. We need BIG performances from our creative players tonight, especialy Hleb who has completely lost his touch of late - he’s a shadow of his former self.
Flamini needs to get hold of the midfield which going to be tricky if Gerard is at the races.

2 1 Arsenal home leg

1 1 away

or

1 1 home leg

2 1 to Liverpool away leg…

(perish the thought)

for those calling theo to start i think his good form lately is best used with him being an impact player who can change the game…as he did with bolton…& with milan! im certainly looking forward to him coming on ARSENAL!

haha excuse that alst line!
VAN DA MAN TO SCORE!
COME ON ARSENAL

yes. I have been saying that too. Theo should remain an impact sub. I even go as far as to say Bendtner is an impact sub for now too

Changing the subject a little (to take my mind off tonight I guess):

About Vidic’s possible sidelining:

A big Manu player finally gets injured! So they are human. I really don’t wish ailments on footballers, but their main starters seem to have had a supernatural aptitude for avoiding knocks this season.

Just poking my nose over the fence…

i thought the same Al, they’ve been v lucky indeed.

Big Al, that’s exactly what I thought when I saw him go down. I said to one of my friends watching the game with me “have I just entered the twilight zone or has an important United player just gotten badly injured?”

Well this is make or break i hope we play an attcking line up against liv because they are gonna come here to defend and hit us on the counter attack.

We need to stop Gerrard and Torres influencing the game so Cesc and Flamini will have to on top of their game.

Like some have said i hope AW plays Toure at center back as that is his most natural position even though he is an allrounder.

And finally I believe if van persie finds his form then we will win.

fuk sake

Another disater from a ref. Strange how he only lives a few miles from Kuyt, and Kuyt’s response was a joke.

I thought Toure and Eboue were hopless defending the right side tonight. What has happened to Toure this season.

The difference in the play when Theo came on was admirable. Much faster passing and forward movement. Next up the mickey mousers on Sat. I wonder who will play in that game.

Bloody RVP injured AGAIN ffs.

Ebuoe stank he should be sold. Toure had a good game , and RVP proved that he and Rosicky are injury prone and we need replacements for them

Sol I disagree on Toure having a good game. At times he looked lost on the right side. It was only in the 2nd half he did a bit better (after Eboue was removed).

Just because Toure has had a few bad games in the last 5 or 6 doesn’t mean he’s had a bad season. Have a memory for goodness sake.

Jimmy, Toure has not had a good season by his own high standards. I am not for 1 min saying he is a bad player just not up to his previous seasons.

Agree with Steve that Toure’s not been at his best this season. Just because a player “bleeds red & white” does not make him above criticism - putting all the blame on the usual suspects isn’t really constructive.

Saying that, I’ll go for blaming the usual suspect. Thought the ref was pretty good for 60 mins…then made 3 dreadful decisions in the next 10 :-(. TV here certainly thought it was a cast-iron penalty, as did BBC website.

Perse’s injury is seriously bad news. I was hoping he’d really give us that extra spurt coming back for the final 1.5 months. Looks like it’s not going to happen.

Toure was great up until the African Nations - he’s just tired and playing him out of position doesn’t help matters. That said, we can’t really expect to win anything with our current defense - we leek too many goals to win major trophies - you just need look at the goal difference in the premiership to see we have problems in that department. Eboue was SH*T! I’ve never jeered an Arsenal player off the field before but I did him.
I thought Hleb was awful again too last night - back to his old tricks of falling over & giving the ball away all the time, is it just me or is that kid playing for a transfer? He shouldn’t be playing 1st team football at the moment. He certainly wouldn’t get in the Liverpool / Chelsea / Man U or even Everton 1st team on his current form.
Another draw when we should have won 2 or 3 - 1.
We looked shattered by the end of the night - AW should play the Carling Cup side on Saturday, we’ve no hope of winning the title what with a champions league place pretty much a gimme but i don’t suppose he will.
I’ve a terrible feeling we’ll win Saturday, quite convincingly & then lose on Tuesday…
I only hope & pray we put in another performance like the one in Milan!

It wasnt Toure’s fault for conceding the goal there where about 6 red shirts against 2 at the time Gerrad bombed into the box where were they? Anyway Arsenal never make it easy for themselves so looking forward to more hearts in mouths moments at Anfield. Rather than being critical I think we got some immense performances from Ade,Cesc n Hleb, Gallas, Flamini,Senderos, Clichy yesterday n deserved 3 goals for our dominance.For all the hype arpund Torres he was well marshalled by Gallas n Clichy he only got 1 shot at goal n resorted to theatrics n got booed by the crowd. The penalty decision n Bentnder on the line,RVP’s injury what can you say.

I didnt see anything from Liverpool to make us panic in the next leg.We can only be our own worst enemy n Livepool will need their 12thman. And the punters are still only putting us down as 5th favourite to win the CL with all the Prem teams ahead of.And to Graeme Souness’s partisan analysis yesterday what a joke you’d have thought Arsenal lost the game rather than Liverpool holding on by the skin of their teath Im already heaving at talk of Liverpools brilliant away performance..

Immense performance from Hleb - Are you kidding?

i think yesterdy’s performance was nothing sort of tht against milan….except..

i dunno if its only me or all…who dont c 100% commitment from hleb…he looks patchy….and body language suggests him going against team mates if they are no in the “perfect position”.

flamini…i guess he shud leave really…i dont rate him as high as 75k pounds….or even 20 million transfer…if he goes for tht amount i think its a gud bargain….

realistically the thing is…if u r not very well built the role flamini carries….ur best performances will only come in bursts…like in milan…yesterday he..or rather his tiredness was at fault for letting the goal in…and senderos is to scared of touching the ball in front of goal..dreading another own goal….

i think wenger mite have noticed till now…toure is a waste on rite wing….(altho initially i assumed senderos to be better than that…and toure to be better than tht in their respective positions).

sooner theo plays on rite flank and eboue drops to rite back the better….else it wudnt be a bad idea if song is brought in to play in one of the defensive roles.

and finally on ethan’s wonder boy…bendtner….i think ppl will ask us money for taking tht piece of sh**…..he did evthing liverpool cud have thot of…slow passing game, block a 2nd goal, and show ur lethargy on the field.RVP injury is a blow…he was very gud….so were fab, ade, theo.

Hleb NEEDS TO GO…

Flamini leave? For me, he’s our player of the season.

Rev .. are you mad?? immense perf from Hleb .. are you off your mind?

btw Flam has had a fantastic season, but he was piss poor in the 1st half yday and the goal was his fault

Hleb is playing like he did last season .. and if you go to the games, you will have noticed that he constantly shrugs his shoiulders and moans to his colleagues and that is normally after he mishits a pass

and Eboue is a complete joke .. and Toure as a right back is very average

and Bendtner .. now I think we should sell him .. he is bottom premier league material ..
one miscontrolling girafe is enough in the team .. so lets keep Ade as he is thebetter of the two

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