Posted by: Yogi's Warrior | March 24, 2008

It Isn’t Over But The Big Girl Is Definitely Loosening Her Vocal Chords

No doubt that there is the collective sounding of various death knells around the papers this morning but to call time on the title challenge may yet prove to be premature. It is without a doubt now an exceptionally tall mountain that has to be climbed, reliant on two teams to drop points both of whom are on a ‘roll’.

Should you be one who has a towel thrown firmly into the centre of the ring, I do not blame you nor seek to chastise. It is hard to realistically believe that the title can be won following this defeat and taking into consideration the current run of form. The hope that can be clung onto is that manner in which leads at the top have been dropped seemingly without rhyme or reason by the occupants of pole position throughout the preceding six months. Nevertheless, it is tenuous.

The match was a compare and contrast style and surprised me to some extent in that both sides went for the win. Not evident was the chess match of previous encounters between teams in the position that Chelsea and Arsenal found themselves. To claim that United’s win influenced affairs would be wrong; Arsene and Grant had decided during the week that this was going to be an assault on three points.

Neither team dominated proceedings in the first half. Chelsea utilised their direct style to perhaps conjure up more accuracy on their attempts on goal with Almunia saving comfortably from Drogba and Ballack amongst others. At the other end, Toure and Gallas caused Cudicini’s shorts to change colour from a corner before Kalou did the same with an air kick at the other end just before the interval.

The second half though saw Arsenal start the quickest out of the blocks, Flamini’s effort from the right side of the area well saved by Cudicini. The breakthrough happened in on the hour mark when Fabregas’ corner was met at the edge of the six yard box by Bacary Sagna to break his duck by guiding the ball into the near post area; unstoppable for a goalkeeper with an unguarded upright.

A precious lead gained and it seemed to be well protected for ten minutes until Sagna twisted awkwardly on the turf whilst clearing the ball at a similar time as Toure seemed to aggravate a groin strain suffered in the first half. The ensuing moments allowed Chelsea to bring on substitutes and Diaby to replace Sagna. The balance on the defence was lost momentarily as the pack was reshuffled and Chelsea took advantage.

In yesterday’s Observer, Keith Hackett penned a clear and concise explanation of the offside rule. He used the acronym PIG (Play, Interfere, and Gain) to succinctly put right the misguided views of pundits. Unfortunately for him, his officials made a PIG’s ear of the first Chelsea goal. Replays clearly showed Didier Drogba in an offside position when the ball was punted forwards from the Chelsea half. The first player to touch the ball? Drogba. If that is not seeking to gain an advantage, I am not sure what is. Even then, the flag should have been raised because Drogba interfered by challenging for the ball. Hackett himself rules that breaching one of the three guidelines is offside. Drogba breached two.

However, a League season is not made up of one game; the last five have cost the team dearly, a loss of points that would still have left them top after today’s matches had they taken maximums for each game. That is the spilt milk over which tears should be shed.

The winner came with less than ten minutes to go. Belletti’s free-kick was flicked on by Anelka and Toure lost Drogba. His shot was scuffed into the turf and beyond the arm of Almunia. Too little time for a comeback, especially for a team that seemed shell-shocked. The margin of victory would have been more were it not for the Spaniard’s firm touch onto Drogba’s late effort to turn the ball around the post.

In midfield, Flamini, Fabregas, Hleb and Eboue were all tigerish in the tackle and worked well to spring from defence. There were occasions when the gap between RvP / Adebayor and the rest were too big but the problem that faces the team is having a goal shy front line. You can cover for that over one or two games but this fallow period needed the midfield to chip in with more. For all of Hleb’s hard work in the build ups, he has slipped into the groove again of seeking to provide rather than taking responsibility for shooting, a sign that confidence has dropped.

Van Persie showed good positional sense yesterday and that is encouraging; the timing for shots will return but time is a commodity that is becoming scarce. Adebayor simply looks tired but continues to drive himself into the ground contributing to the all-round game. The tail end of this Premier League season is in danger of coasting in much the same way as last term.

Chief protagonist in the media this morning is Steve Howard in this morning’s Sun, who believes this to be the moment when

..incensed callers to radio phone-ins and a proliferating army of bloggers will be calling for Wenger’s head

Well, here they will not be. To be still in contention, albeit tenuously, with seven games to go is a sign of the progress made this season considering how distant from the top the past two seasons have been. The performance yesterday was good enough considering recent form but defensively, Toure is suffering an almighty hangover from the African Cup of Nations. He and Gallas have not regained the solidity they displayed beforehand and whilst they contained Drogba in the first half, it was a bit hit and miss. Bizarrely, Howard blames Eboue for the defeat, his nervousness being the reason goals were conceded in the centre.

The next two league games will decide whether the faint sound of nails being hammered into the coffin of the title challenge will be replaced by the sound of the hammer’s claw wrenching them free. With the resumption of Champions League activity in ten days time, minds might be drawn elsewhere. Arsenal can take advantage of that but need to get their own heads cleared. The few days away on international duty might be the break that they need.

Who knows, maybe this is an elaborate game of rope-a-dope with Arsene ‘Ali’ Wenger luring in Grant and Ferguson before delivering the sucker punch. I somehow doubt it but it has been a strange old season.

‘til Tomorrow.

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Responses

Boys and Girls

Play nicely today, eh with no name calling and impersonating others.

Cheers

YW

we blew it at wigan.birmingham was bound to happen coz of the incident….but at wigan is where we should have kept momentum going and we didn’t.all we can ask for is a strong finish to the season and a damn good CL run in.if we end up in moscow all will be forgiven.

Hi Yogi, it’s hard not to be disappointed after all the team’s heroics so far this season. But I think we’ve been undone by the injuries this season. I know some will say Arsene should have known given RVP and Rosicky’s histories, but actually both were more significant than even the most pessimistic could have expected. And there is no way anyone could have anticipated losing Eduardo in the circumstances we did.

However, overall I’m still happy with what we’ve done this season. I did not expect us to be in the title race yet we have competed until March. The team may or may not go on to surprise me further, but they are just at the beginning of what they can do and if not this season, it will not be a long time coming.

Always remember, what doesn’t kill you, makes you stronger and this is all part of the learning process. I’m happy to go along for the ride and take the rough with the smooth.

Yesterday was utterly horrible a poor Manu performance and they still win 3-0 against the gobby scousers, and we play well, but end up losing both sagna and the game.

well, Liverpool will be up for the triple-header, not meaning to be pessimistic but another trophy-less season in our half of north london seems inevitable now.

let’s just hope we can pull our fingers out and START SCORING, that’s the biggest problem arsenal have look at Manu and Chelsea, even spurs they all score so many more goals than us and that’s the most basic way to win games: goals.

Well…. I said back in January that ‘for the want of a nail…. We could and should have strengthned the squad then. It is too thin and there is no real competition for places.

I thought earlier this season the Manu’s squad was weak with too many substandard players but I was wrong. They all fight for their places and that makes a difference. They also do get a rest. We look very tired, no spark.

We also seem to have forgotten how to score goals. Worst run for nine years.

Great season though. Could have been so much better if Arsene could only bring himself to spend a bit of money.

Can someone explain how ManU and Chelsea can keep a well-stocked bench but we can’t?

I pretty much believe that Wenger is perfect/infallible but am starting to wonder about this aspect.

If Ferguson can keep Scholes, Giggs, Tevez, Nani, Anderson etc on the bench at times and Grant can swap Ballack in and out… why can’t Wenger keep our (bench) players happy?

Why do they leave wishing for more football?

Or is it just the money…

(I, quite obviously, haven’t thought a great deal about this but am beginning to wonder.)

Surprisingly I am not feeling too bad about it. We have done better then what I had expected this season, and the kids are getting older, so my hopes are high for next seson. For this season we are still in the Champs, L’pool is beyond doubt a team we could beat, and then get our revenge on the Chavs.

The fact that we are loosing the leauge to a better team makes it OK. They are better than us, more consistent, have a better squad. It hurts to say it, but I think its true. They have more gamewinners, more players that can change the game alone. They also have a better tactisian as a boss. I love AW, but Red Nose no doubt masters this side of the game better than Arsene. Just look at what he did when United were one up; he doesnt put in an extra defender or holding midfielder, no he makes attaking subs in order to kill the game. I dont think AW ever would have done that.

So for next season everybody needs to improve and learn, the manager, the players. We need to get rid of Eboue, Gilberto, Lehmann, and get Vela back, plus another winger, maybe another striker, get Flamini to sign, and it will be all good.

I thought the article by steven howard was a very article he is not blinkered like a lot of arsenal supporters sometimes it being said by a neutral brin gs home the truth we all should give wenger praise when he does well but should criticise when he gets it so wrong as he has this season in regards to the squad depth also i look at adebayor and drogba and see only one winner drogba un lucky not to get his hat-trick and adebayor one weak shotn on goal and only two forward passes in the game i hope wenger has learnt from this and stops giving weak excuses all the time

it shoud be our priority,give flamini a good improved deal,sell gallas and give the captaincy to cesc.come on arsenal

Great post YW. I needed to remind myself that we’re not the holders but challengers. Yes we’ve enjoyed such a long spell at the top that some of us had began to believe that it was those others who were challenging. Its a bit disappointing to appear to lose our way when we could already see the finishing line. But hope should never be allowed to slip away. With 21 points to play four the race is still wide open. As long as its mathematically possible I will keep believing. Sure, we’ve nearly forgotten how to celebrate a win, but it happens even to the best. Very few gave us a chance before the season kicked off. In fact, if they’d offered us 3rd place by this time we’d have taken it. So gunners, keep your heads up. We may not win the title, but we’re certainly not losing it. Lets get our belief back up and do the treble over Liverpool!!!

What do we expect? In the summer and in the January opening most of us cried for 3 key positions to be plucked to give us enough depth in the team.

1. A strong pacy striker because we saw that Adebayor was inadequate and RvP will definitely be missed because of his injury problems. Eduardo is a good finisher but lacks the power needed in the EPL. Anelka was available and prepared to join but Arsene refused to go for him, taking the side of protecting his players against the interest of the Arsenal. Hear him. ‘I have confidence in my team. What message do I send to them if I bring in anybody ahead of them? ‘

2. A winger who can play on both sides as Freddie/Pires did for us years ago and scored goals. Why? because we realised that both Hleb and Rosicky can not sustain it. Rosicky of his injury problems way back in Stuttgart days where I’m informed he couldn’y play out a season without recurring injuries. Hleb for the fact that his goal ratio is poor. As for Eboue better remain silent than talk about his inadequacies.

3. A tall powerful and pacy CB in the mould of Sol Campbell. We knew that Gallas was prone to groin injuries and lacks height as EPL Cb. The remaining two subs; Djourou and Senderos are not good enough. Senderos has impoved however his shortfalls still persists; lacks strength even though he’s big and he’s so slow that he’s had problems tackling pacy and strong centre forwards.

Did Arsene listen? He himself confirmed recently that he had such advice but he ignored them.

Now after being in front of the pack with 5 points ahead, we have to struggle to qualify for the champions league again.

Arsene has lost the plot.

A bit disappointed but thats life. Do we still stand a chance of winning the EPL of course we do, but as you say its now down to the gods. I seem to remember saying that for ADE to have his haircut was unlucky and it now appears so. Silly I know but many sportsmen have their odd lucky charms and I think that was one of them. I very much doubt that Flam will be with us next year, and that will leave an opening for someone else. Dudu will not be back for next season and I’m sure the boss has someone lined up to replace him, suspect we could do with a couple more. But the season is still not over, and as you say the fat lady has not yet started to sing.

we still have the cl which we have never won

ethan
any attempt to have a constructive discussion is met with insults, so, let’s forget the football. Quite simply, you are a c**t

I just feel we have to put our eggs into the Champions League basket. Sure mathematically we can still win the premiership but given the goal difference it is in effect a 7 point gap, so you would need Chelsea to beat Man Ure and slip up elsewhere, us to beat Man Ure and Man Ure to slip up elsewhere, and we would need to win all 7

With Injuries we do not have the squad for that, so I think we should be happy with 3rd (which is above my pre-season expectations) and concentrate on a cup where we are all on a level-playing field.

I do think we left ourselves short pre-season and 2 more players would probaby have been the difference, I dont think we need another CB, Senderos has shown enough for me and we have Nordveilt coming though in the next year or so.

We do need another wide player though, I know Vela is coming back in the Summer but I would also cash in on Rosicky, I like him as a player but his proneness to injury means he is either injured or trying to find his way following injury. we need more depth out here, as playing CM players in those areas is ok in an emergency but we do it regularly and I include Eboue in this.

But for me, our biggest hole is upfront but only because of the injuries to Eduardo and RVP. Bendtner was never going to be the revelation this year so all that pressure ended up on Adebayor, who in my mind has had an excellent season. Some on here lay his recent dip in form as the sole reason for our slip from top, but come on that is a ridiculous comment, every striker has a dip in form, but other clubs do not have the injury crisis at the same time, its just bad luck

I just hope Sagna is not out too long, we need him

its still been a succesful season for me, but part of me does say that if we had been a bit more pro-active in the transfer market then we could still be on top of the tree

Something I would like to add to that

Chelsea, and all their Spice Boys and Millions and world class players didn’t outplay us yesterday, I think we actually controlled the game for long periods. There was no gulf in class and definately a game we could have won and if we had a RVP fully into the groove again, I am in no doubt we would have won it

We lost due to a failure of a linesman and a slip in concentration from our defence (I think Almunia should have done better).

Likewise Liverpool showed nothing to me that we should be concerened about the forthcoming games in the premiership and champions league so if we ca stay fit and play to potential then a change in luck and fortune should be just around the corner.

Pat
agree with most of what you say but would like to add two comments regarding the defence; firstly, Gallas displayed a lack of leadership at Birmingham that has had a lasting effect, and, ironically, Toure has not performed aa well as Senderos has done.

I include the word ‘ironically’ as Ethan is unable to spot irony. Are you American Ethan?

I would go with that Jamie,

Gallas’s actions were a bit weak at Birmingham but I really cant criticise any of our players that day after the trauma of seeing a leg in that state. all I would say is that he should have had the wits about himself to go and do it in the dressing room out of the way of Sky Sports and Nobber Hansen

I think Toure came back in on reputation not form, and maybe Senderos would have been better for us yesterday

jamie

ill tell you about irony , the irony is i was right and you were wrong ! and re the name calling double ditto !

your arguments hold no substance ! and i’m sure
you’ll have a few American fans who will like your ethnic comments ..

and sorry i’m 100% British ! Born and breed Londoner !

you blame gallas for what ? leadership ?
least he scores a goal or 2 ! also the rott started at wigan ! and gallas was either distraught by either the cheap clichey goal or dudu’s injury !
Showing your disapproval isnt a bad thing ! when things dont go our way ! Id rather see that than plonkers like you bury your head in the sand !

Your in denial ! our defense has enabled us to only loose only 2 games ALL SEASON YOU BLIND #### !

What we do lack is goals in the back of the net !!!!
Ill say it again for the mentally retarded !

you need to score more goals than you concede !
draws mean we didnt !

its a fact we are in the biggest scoring drought of arsenals history !
and goof balls like you blame the defense !
thats what i call ironic !

Well, as usual they’ve got their daily meal, Eboue to blame yet again rather than AW’s poor tactical chance. As we were leading while under constant pression, we didn’t need Diaby(not a good tackler, not a good passer either), we needed Song a good passer and who can defend as well, swithing to 4-5-1 withdrawing RVP who was poor.
We didn’t need Walcott either as we’ve got the goal we needed; just stuff things in midfield to stop Chelsea’s fluid passing game in order to isolate Drogba. That’s the change AW needed.

I must say that we were lucky to be a goal up rather than one down, as Drogba’s areal ability mad a meal out of Kolo/Gallas.
When will AW learn a few lessons? Last year, we lost at Enfield with a similar trait that was Peter Crouch. Didier Drogba always seems to get his mojo back when he plays against us. This for the last four years; but the ‘professor’ has never managed to find a solution. The only odd results we’ve got recently against Chelsea have been games where Drogba as not featured.
In my opinion, we will struggle more years to come until AW relises that we need both highly technical and physical squad if we are to win the title back. This team needs a reshape of squad, particularly upfront and in the midfield. Sell the players too lightweight this coming summer.
If the news coming from Barca on Eboue is true; I think, it’s better selling him this summer rather than having him fighting for his life with so many fans who hate him at the moment. I am not one of them though; as I think he remains a very useful player.
My main concerns remain RVP and Rosicky form. How many years are they going to remain on our book only playing a 35% of all games available?
RVP wasted two clear goals opportunities yesterday, blowing the ball in air. But here we go, Eboue must be the one to blame for the lost.
I think AW should line up either Kolo/Senderos or Gallas/Senderos when we face teams that have very tall and strong forward (like Crough and Drogba). This could be used to rotate for example, resting Clichy for Gallas and Sagna for Toure(RB) and keep Eboue upfront rotating with Walcott.
Also, I think it’s time AW gives Song a chance and adopts two holding midfield (Song & Flamini) instead of Flamin/Fabregas. This works in Europ, as the game is not too physically demanding; but in Premiership, I think we should go for two holding midfield, making Fabregas the third in midfield doing the attacking and creative work, in a formation of 4-3-3 or 4-5-1.
We should battle on to make it difficult for those in front of us; but AW needs to thrus these players, Song and Denilson in order to rest Flamini, Fabregas and Hleb. The players are really tired. We need fresh legs to give ourself a chance to bounce back; we are still mathematically in the race. Come on Gunners!

ethan
you are a c**t

Here’s the plan
1. Sack Wenger and his poncy purist football philosophy. If all we wanted was good football we could have got Don Howe back
2. Hire a c**t for a manager. Ethan’s always right! Ethan… ETHAN.. ETHAN..you c**t where are you?

“Irony alert”

ethan
you are a f***ing c**t

ethan
are you getting the massage?

appologies to those attempting to have an objective and constructive debate without insults, but the c**t ethan doesn’t appreciate this ethos.

pathetic !

lc

I wont beat around the bush, as a RB I think Eboue is a good player, as a midfielder I dont like him. However there are games like yesterday when playing Eboue in that position is good option, but week in week out I just dont think he can create enough in that role.

I dont blame Eboue for that, he will play where he is picked, hey I am sure most on this blog would play in any position for Arsenal and I am that is true of most players.

As for yesterday, far from blaming Eboue, i thought he did ok and given his hot headiness he did very well to stay on the field after a 4th min booking. At the time I thought then get Theo on before Eboue gets sent off but fair play he held his head and contributed.

What I do think though is that if Barcelona do come in with a good offer then I think it would be right for Eboue to leave, I would rather then re-use that money to buy in a quality winger in the Freddie/Pires mould, players I feel we have not replaced to this day

yes a massage would be good .. but not from you :)

Ethan Jamie

Come on guys, read Yogis first post

This is for sensible debate, it is not gunnerblog so dont ruin Yogi’s hard work by posting senseless insults all day long, at least write something to do with Arsenal in the post with the insult

pat how can you say yesterday eboue was the answer he got a yellow in the opening minutes and
looked bloody scary there after . After watching the man U game i was in fear of going down to 10 men
every time eboue had the ball ! dont tell me you didnt feel it .. If barca wants him ! (which i doubt )
let them have him ! ade needs to go ! and with the surplus cash get some real players .. my stance is the same as the jan. transfer window
a winger a defender - and a top class striker !
,with vela and walcott coming thru the team would look in good stead for next season, im not sure what needs to be done re: rosicky ! i think he is a jet of a player for us .. but injury prone he is !
and im not sure when it will end !

jamie stop talking .. your embarrassing yourself !

Very disappointing weekend. everything went in United favour. From Mascherano getting sent off all because Cuntly coles behaviour last week (and lets face it, thats what got him sent off in the end) to Reina making an arse out of himself, twice (whats the betting he has the games of his life against us !!) to yet another terrible terrible linesmans decision (or lack of) …

While not mathematically out of it it would take an effort of almight proportions from the team and a lot of luck to see us win the title.

As for Fab leaving for one of those “big” clubs a la Vieira, Henry, Overmars, Anelka …the list goes on. None of those players have been vindicated in leaving to win things yet. Theres only so many trophies to go around. We still have an outside shot at 2. Better that we could have said last season at this stage. That in itself is an improvement. Id like more, but there you have it.

Id back Wenger to offload 2 or 3 players from the squad but at most buy 2 players. I hope they are straight off first team players and not more potential first team players. Thats along with out loanees making the step to the first team also.

So while im gutted right now, we still have 8 league games i expect no less that 100% from the lads - no time to let the heads drop and also at least 2 more champions league games - we can definitely beat ‘Pool to progress.

Its all about progression people. And i dont think anyone can say we havent this season. Not as much as one would have liked but its going in the right direction.

THIS summer is a must for an injection top class first team ready players to come in. A valiant effort from the squad so far - but its obvious we need it to be added to by 2 or 3 quality players to make the next step.

There you go again Ethan

Are you honestly saying that if we did get another World Class Striker in, you would not want Ade as your option B

I think sometimes you treat Arsenal like a game a Championship Manager, it does not work like that

the league isn’t impossible, but a 6 point and +10odd goal difference gives utd a peak like f*cking everest to climb. Wenger has obviously lost a bit of confidence, to be honest we’ve seen bad performances since spurs at christmas. Where things have gone is a mixure of misfortune and lack of audacity. With Adebayor playing nearly every game this season, surely he could have been rested in a home game for Bentdner, perhaps the 1-1 with brimingham, or the Middlesborough game, but wenger clearly felt keeping him match practiced was more important than be fresh-legged, torres has disproven that, but Ade is a totally different animal so its not neccesarily comparable. Desperate bad luck in the shape of eduardo’s injury - he could have kept us within 2-4 points of the summit as i could have seen him score vs Boro. Rosicky is gone next year if wengr can replace him, hes pretty ruthless about injury porness. The chelsea game, well, 1st offside, sagna’s injury all contributed but the best we would of got was a 1-1 anyway, the main bugger was te boro match.
Gotta feel sorry for senderos since the ANC he was our most consistent performer, and he actually attacks the ball. He is the swiss tony, and he instinctively reads the game. Whenever Wenger drops him with lose defensive stability - but on the other side toure gives us an attacking dimension, but i think thats not really needed, because if you keep it a nil conceded gooners will prolly score one anyway

why do people start on individual players, the whole responsibility is the manager, from the total lack of squad to the poor tactics yet again. why on earth was eboue playing again!!! unbeleivable!! RVP on the wing a complete waste of time. we can’t score at the moment so play are our best forward however unfit he is out on the wing where he doesn’t get the ball.

we weren’t bad at all, without ever creating much to speak of. all no surprise, time to give up on the league and concentrate on europe which i assume we will see with the team selection against bolton.

obviously not the time for told you so’s there will be plenty for that at the end of the year. i suspect we will end the year tropthless, 3rd and around 15 points of the the top, which althouth an improvement, not enough of one in my opnion.

what is most concerning to me is if the season completely implodes from here, ie win maybe two or three games more only (which i think is very feasible) what will the long term impact be on these young players. to see it all shatter in front of them.

i know i will get slaughtered but in my opinion wenger in my mind has utterly screwed up the 2nd half of the season his tactics have garbage, his constant going on how good the squad is but NEVER backing it up by playing the 2nd lot all looks very hollow now. anyone could have seen how weak the squad was but he seemed oblivious to it all.

all very predictable and disappointing. (However a loss at chelsea especially the way we played was by no means a disgrace).

the players have nothing left in them!!!!

and before we discuss injuries yes we have been unlucky, however, one they are part of the game, two in the past few weeks they have all been coming back, yesterday there were only two players out Rosicky and EDS, chelsea brough on anelka and we brought on bendtner, it summed it all up!!! and third as said so many times he would still pick the same 11 every game even if they were all availble becasue the 2nd string are simply not good enough.

Guys;

Its not over we still have sufficient games to play. All have tough matches ahead. Maybe we should have things going favourably for us than others to win. But we surely can win still.

Liverpool were so avg yesterday, if they play similarly we can cruise to semis in cpl. But we shud give it to manutd also…Ronaldo single handledly is getting them close to two epl titles..

ronaldo..nani and giggs are best wingers..and they are getting them goals..else forward wise we are very good too…but we dont have cover for hleb and rosicky..world class cover..who shud step in in case of injury…or bad form..

we cant play hleb and rosicky all the time..and we need someone to comein who is as comfortable and exp in delivering as they are..that will refresh them as well..competion brings best in players..and for 4 trophies u need more than best 11…on striker i think we are ok..its pity we lost eduardo..and rvp for so long..else arsenal had that sufficiently covered ..unlike wing positions

To be honest Ethan you are boring me on the Adebayor Argument, so I am going to leave it there.

You obviously have something against the guy and that is your opinion and you are welcome to it.

But get used to him, cause he is going nowhere in the summer and will be here for years to come.

It is not his fault Thierry Henry left the club

And it is not his fault that he unfortunately took on the burden of playing almost every game due to injuries to RVP and Eduardo

It is his fault however that given the style of his play he has worked his socks off to score the goals that ensure that Arsenal finish top four and he has convinced me (A previous doubter of his performances) that he has a place in the Arsenal Squad.

And one last thing, if he had gone to the ANC, our title push would have ended weeks ago and I doubt we would be lined up to play Liverpool in the Champions League.

Please just give the guy credit where credit is due, sure he is in a dip in form, every striker gets it Henry, Berbatov, Rooney (who ony has 8), Torres, Drogba etc. It happens and it is only bad luck that his dip has coincided with injuries to RVP and Eduardo.

What I also find extremely strange is you attitude to gloat when things are going wrong at the Club. Do you honestly support them? why would you do this.

Hey I predicted a struggle to come in the top 4 pre-season and nothing pleases me more than to be prooved wrong.

I also felt that our current prediciment is down to my other pre-season thought that we did not strengthen anywhere near enough to cope with injuries to key players, a situation that mirrors the 06-07 Season and nothing dis-pleases more than being right on that.

Yogi;

Diaagree with you on Hleb..that confidence made him not shoot..he never shoots..guy with all his talent doesnt score goals..has never done in his career..his goal count even before joining us for poor..but he still is worth to be in 11 he brings in so many fantastic skills..which are as criticial..we all agree..

Was at the game yesterday - and feel strangely philisophical about it.

I thought we played OK, and at 1-0 felt it would be our day.

But without doubt Toure and Gallas both had off days - and in my opinion neither are physically imposing enough to cope with Drogba when on form, like he was yesterday.

Arsene needs to splash the cash and get a big, Physical CH to bolster our defence - i have said it time and time again - but he should get Micah Richards - forget how much he will cost - we need him.

The boy is an Arsenal fan - and is going to be a monster of a CH.

Adebayor looked out on his feet yesterday - and Drogba gave the boy a lesson as to how to play.

And Sagna going off illustrated how good he has been this season.

Hats off the Grant - the subs won him the game.

And as for the title - well its gone - simple as that.

And for me - Squad depth has lost it for us - Man U and Chels both have bigger and better all round squads.

On Arsene;

I dont have any issues with him..i support him completely..even though i think we have two world class wingers short i still back him..

except..that he said chelsea started playing long balls…thats no excuse they will play whatever they want which is legal..and why shudnt we play long balls…i remember when we player villa away we won 4-1 ..cause of long balls..tactically..we cannot be unidimensional…even though our dimension is the most beautiful..amnd most successful..but no harm having and defeding against multi dimensional play

adc, i admire the argument that we can still do it, but as wenger correctly stated you need to win games to even discuss the championship and with the next three games away to bolton, liverpool and utd it is good night and god bless.

Matt;

Shinawatra wont sell him Micah cheap..and arsene wont buy defender expensive..moreover toure and gallas has served us well this season and we have decent back in phillipe and djourou…

We dont have back up for hleb and rosicky..to give them competion and freshen them up..

Heroics ???? Excuse me ladies and Gentlemen.We beat an injury plagued Chelsea in late december and had great struggles doing it (if not for Cech).And ohhhhh we beat the mighty Meelan but they went 8 leagues without winning at home and are currently being taken apart in the italian sport press as the worst Milan side for 30 years…….yes that is right……..30 years.We have achieved Nothing this season absolutely nothing other than realising that the team is lacking seriously in every department and are a big girls blouse when it gets interesting.Ohhh yes wait a minute we have realised that Rosicky is a sicknote,Hleb should be teaching showponies and that Eboue is mentally ill.But we already knew that.

im trying to be optimistic but its kinda hard considering the circumstances…. i didnt watch the game but i could guess that ade wasted quite a few chances seeing as to how his name isnt on the scoreboard : O

ade didn’t waste chances he didn’t have any. for three games running he had no chances. which is certainly not all his fault.

Patthegooner,
What I can’t take on Eboue issue here is that some fans blame the lad for a lost that is not a result of his bad performance.
Can anyone tell me what justify RVP inclusion with respect of his poor performance against Boro?
In my opinion, the main reason why AW starts Eboue is that he is better passer than any curant Arsenal player, only Fabregas is above him. He is a cleaver player. His presence on the wing helps compensate the lack of physical presence in midfield and mostly has very good partnership with sagna, as Sagna can run forward without the need of rushing back quickly, as his goal demonstrated. He won’t get himself in that position if Eboue wasn’t covering him at the back.
For me, we’ve lost the game as the result of AW’s wrong substitutions. When Diaby came in, we ‘ve lost more balls than we did in the entire game; and it’s got worse when Walcott came in; instead of bringing in a defensive cover as Chelsea brought in Anelka.

We have no plan b and Wenger refuses to acknowledge it.Always saying i have an obligation to teach my players to play beautiful football..bla.bla.bla.

And his endless harping on about how wonderful his players are.How much Eboue reminds him of Garrincha(No wonder he is never gonna dump him).How Hleb reminds him about(No not a showpony)bergkamp……..delusion of the biggest grandeur here.

They have been pampered enough,now let us get Mourinho !!!!

having read the steve howard piece not sure there is anything in there that is particularly controversail or untrue. hits the spot

ic, rvp has to play to get back match fitness, it is a problem as he will be off the pace probably until the end of the season but has to be done.

i agree with jamie,ethan is a c**t

adc

‘We have decent back in Phillipe and Djourou’ you mean? We would’ve conceded more goals if Senderos had featured. His pace would’ve been no match for Drogba and Cole, ditto his strength.

The problem we have in the team has been the same since last season.

1. A powerful centre back with pace in the mould of Sol Campbell. Richards of City is the only one who can develop into this level of excellence. There is enough evidence that Curtis Davies now playing for Aston Villa has a similar potential.

2. A stronger and pacy centre forward with shots in both legs and the ability to try shots from afar a la TH14. Anelka was available but Arsene didn’t care meanwhile we had the problem of RvP.

3. A winger in the mould of Freddie/Pires who’s comfortable to play at both wings and capable of contributing 12/15 goals a season. We don’t need Rosicky who on a good day can bring in that support but find himself on the treatment table all the time.

These needs were all highlighted during summer but Arsene didn’t care.

Outs

Rosicky-too prone to injury and can never play 4 games on the trot without injury.

Eboue-not good enough and bad attitude and prone to discplinary problems

One of Senderos/Djourou should go since we need to bring in an additional CB with power and pace.

Gilberto is past it

Ins

Richards of City, can cost between 18/20 but he’s only 19 and will develop into one of the best Cb’s in the world. The other option is Curtis Davies who may cost about 8 million less.

Agbonlahor or Benzema for CF

Vela is coming to play the role of Pires

So in actual fact the financials will not be bad

sell Gilberto 3
Rosicky 6
Djourou 2
Eboue 5

Total 16

Buy Richards 20
Agbonlahor 18 or Benzema 15

Net spent will be say 12 but this years net gain was 5 so it reduces net spent to 7

Other decisions should be to send Traore, Denilson on loan and bring back Gibbs, Randall and Lansburi into the first team.

I would also like to add that ‘bloody slim chance’ is also cunt - i didnt watch the game but im blaming Ade anyway. What the fuck.

And Danish isnt too far behind either. Hes like those fickle chelksi “fans” who chanted “you dont know what you are doing” to Grant then cheered him like the messiah when they won.

Fuckin moaners

Dan,

You don’t start RVP if he needed match fitness in a such difficult derby game. Walcott should have started and bring RVP in the last 20′ or so.
He has been playing many games with the reserve team.
This doesn’t justify his terrible shooting at the moment. I must also had that he is another terrible passer, like Adebayor; that’s why I don’t believe they will either make a good partnership, just like he didn’t with TH14.

where has the confidence gone..?? we was very unlucky against chelsea.. they may have players on the bench worth 30million but them playeres aint going to be there for long. Our club is run properly, did u hear the chelsea fans singing to Grant ‘u dont know what your doin’..?? absolutely unbelievable, great way to support your team and manager. We are better than that.. the 1st gol Drogba scored was clearly offside, and that gave them the momentum for the 2nd.. Ive seen us give much worse performances at Stamford Bridge, so why does every1 think there is a crisis..??

The truth is eduardo was are sharp player in and around the box.. rosicky another quality playmaker, and V persie our leading striker. If Man Utd or Chelsea lost influencial players like that for long periods like we have they wouldn be half as good as us. For me we are just simply unlucky, drawing games wen we needed those clinical players fit to finish them.. and why is every1 surprised we are challenging.. using that pothetic excuse.?? we should be up there every year, and if u dont believe in the quality of our players then dont even bother making a comment.. becos every true arsenal fan is 100% behind wenger and the players.

Was at the game yesturday, amongst Chelsea fans and they were not happy until the equaliser. An offside goal that changed the game. Another crap decision among many recently.

Our squad is too weak, with the injuries suffered, our main players are physically and mentally tired. However they did play well yesterday until Sagna was injured and in the insuing chaos let Drogba in. (Even though it should not have been given)

We also have not had the rub of the green and I have sent this letter winging it’s way to Soho Square. I wonder if I will get a response, may send it recorded delivery as well as email-that might help, but I won’t hold my breath!

Refereeing and Assistants’ Decisions

Dear Sirs

I would be very grateful if you could reassure me regarding the officiating of recent Arsenal matches.

I am fully aware that officials are only human and that mistakes are not uncommon, however during the course of matches and over a period of time they tend to even themselves out.

It is however with some concern that I look at the last few Arsenal matches. The incorrect decisions seem to be all one sided and are directly influencing the outcome of matches. I would like to highlight these errors:
· Birmingham V Arsenal – just before the end of the game Arsenal are 1 – 2 up, Adebeyor has his shorts almost pulled off in the penalty area, no penalty. Shortly after Clichy wins the ball cleanly in the opposite penalty and a penalty is awarded against Arsenal. Two incorrect decisions leads to 2 points dropped for Arsenal and 1 gained for Birmingham. These decisions directly affect the lead at the top of the table and the relegation positions.
· Arsenal V Aston Villa – Carew is offside in the build up to Aston Villa’s goal and has to be interfering as Senderos puts into his own goal in preventing the cross reaching Carew. Another two points dropped in the title race.
· Arsenal – Middlesborough – Adebeyor scores a legitimate goal which is rules offside incorrectly, the linesman would not have been able to see that the pass was made by Boeteng, but the referee was close by and in fact made up a rule in his post match analysis to explain his decision. The Middlesborough goal was given even though the scorer was offsde when the ball was played to the cross provider. Two incorrect decisions which led to a further two points dropped by Arsenal.
· Chelsea – Arsenal –for the first goal scored by Chelsea, all three players involved in the build up to the goal were offside when the ball was played through. Also when Gallas hit the post he was wrongly given offside and although this did not influence the game the first Chelsea goal changed the whole ebb and flow of the match.

All of these incidents have occurred over the past five matches and what prompted me to write to you was the fact that whilst at the Chelsea V Arsenal match, when Arsenal scored, the first thing that I did was look at the referee and his assistant waiting for an infringement to rule the goal out.

After incidents in Italy and Germany where illegal gambling and financial pressure has influenced impartiality I feel that the degree of poor officiating has ensured that Arsenal are almost assured of not winning the Premiership this season. That it is in part brought about by influences beyond their own control, I feel bound to ask that this be investigated.

I look forward to your comments into this matter.

Pat
yes ive got a problem with a player who disrupts our passing game FULL STOP! and as for dan, ade had no chances in 3 games ? come on !!
tell me how many times in the final 3rd did he spilt possession ! a good striker makes chances from nothing !

we will be having the same conversation next year unless we get some important key figures in the team ! and with RVP - theo and bendtner who is only 19 - vela-dudu Plus the experienced striker where is ade supposed to fit into a plan B ?
RVp is the main man ! all the others are up and coming ! If people are calling for eboues head then im sure ade is also on the short list !
get rid of the lemons ! stop keep making lemonade !
arsene is just like you guys ! hates to be proved wrong !

Get a life for all those who said we dont want to be like man U ! well you got your wish ! we wont be like them because unlike them , we are going to win nothing again !!

spend the 70 million war chest , that probably doesn’t exist !

manu-adebayor-jamie (is that a girls name? )
at least there useful !
more than i can say about you or your comments !

how would you call an arsenal haters? f*****G c**ts,just ask arseblog.ethan is one of them.

In both the meetings the goals wer frm defenders… and i was baffled as to why the hell wenger shifted eboue(he looks puzzled al the time) to rite wing and brought on walcott….song/gilberto were certainly the better option isnt it…and y the hell did he brought off RVP….madnesssssssssssssssss. He is the only one who can score off direct freekicks…cant blame the players for anything ..cant blame the fans for their outrage….dunno wat do i do…i guess i will watch the next match against bolton wearing an Arsenal shirt again :)..
and ethan keep it up man…u r the cheer in this gloom :D

So Ade cant fit into your plan B Ethan,

All Competitions

Ade 23
RVP 7
Theo 5
Nic 6
Eduardo 12

Speaks for itself Ethan, honestly Ade could score 30 in a season and your stubborness would ignore it. You say We hate to be prooved wrong yet I for one am pleased Ade and Arsenal have prooved me wrong this season yet you are blind to the actual real stats that back up his and Arsenal’s season and alas it is you that is finding it hard to swallow that Arsenal are going to finish above your pre-season prediction of 5th

Your inability to give him any credit at all shows your true lack of personality, 57,000 gooners singing his name every home game cant be wrong

RVP the main man, I really wish he was but unfortunately like Rosciky I feel he will be injury prone his whole career so will never be the main man

ic,

a derby game is irrelevant, every game needed to be won to have any chance in winning the league, it doesn’t matter if it is boro or chelsea, the only way he is going to get match fit is by playing, not coming on with 20 minutes to go.

just f**kin keep it low bro :x

i seriously wud like wenger to buy no one since ethan wants some….

Who would have thought it could have got this bad! I have been saying this all season but our squad simply cant and could never hold up to the strains of a full season. This is now showing and Wenger has simply not learnt his lessons and become obsessed with his mantle of not buying players and trying to nurture our youth players. Wenger has lost the plot! This is the fourth season of our transition and it just isnt working in my eyes. We have to buy some experience to compliment our youth and grow our squad. We dont need any more kids, except perhaps Richards! Why is Wenger obsessed with this concept of kids? If you look at the games on what was billed ‘Super Sunday’ in the biggest games of the season, Man U brought on Tevez and Nani, Chavski brought on Beletti and Anelka! Now that is depth in a squad, and look at the difference it made, Nani scored, Beletti crossed the ball to Anelka to set up Drogba. What did we have on our bench? Walcott, who didnt touch the bal it seemed, Diaby who is always out of position and what happened when we introduced our subs? We conceeded 2 goals and lost the title! Wenger needs to seriously buy some players this summer otherwise I really believe there needs to be some serious questions asked of him!

marcus, no one will ask questions of him, he has the safest job in world football and he knows it and freely says it to the media. therein lies the main problem at AFC at the moment.

the manager and too many of the players are all in the comfort zone. the players to such an extent that the manager has already said irrespective of what happens this year he will stick with the same players and not have any major changes next year, especially as god forbid that would send the wrong message to his players. ie you need to step it up if you want to play for arsenal football club.

Dan, that is so true! It is the wrong message and it is showing that his way of man management of these players is not working. The players are not playing for their positions, they are getting lazy knowing there is no fight for their place in the starting line up. Wenger is not combining youth and experience like he has done in the past and is putting all his faith in a team of youngsters, with no competition or guidance of experience! Wenger MUST understand what he is doing is not working, if he doesnt, someone on the board must talk to him. We need a manager who wants to win, not someone undertaking a personal experiment!

My god the Doom Mongerers are out today

Funny how you only appear after a bad result.

I agree that we need a couple more players but seriously Dan, Marcus and the rest, where did you honestly think we would finish this season?

We will probably come 3rd but you never know, is that above your expectations prior to the Season?

If Eduardo had not been crippled, and If RVP had not had a long term injury, where do you think we would be now? I personally think top

Hey I thought we would be in a fight for 4th but am delighted to have been prooved wrong, I honestly dont think that Wenger has got it too wrong. He banked on being a bit more lucky than last season striker fitness wise but unfortunately lady luck has shaton us once again.

The Season is not over yet, so lets just leave it till end of the Champions League campaign and the end of the Premiership before going all out on a Sack Wenger campaign.

i am not convinced the board care and are too scared to say anything. wenger is arsenal now, also a very unhealthy situation. when you read blogs especially this one (me included) is so excited that we did better this year (even though the season isn’t over yet and we have accomplished nothing yet, other than do better than two disasterous league seasons and NOT get into cup finals which we did in the last two years!!) than we all expected, ie to struggle for top 4. That is how low our expectations have become, competing with spurs for fourth place was the goal, thankfully they started the season badly.

as i have said a many times this year wenger has been a genius in lowering our expectations and thus created the situation we are in where we are ecstatic that we were competing until 20% of the season was left.

we need wenger to come and say what we all see ie we need strenthening across the squad and some dead wood needs to go. if not personally i would like a manager who will.

pat,

you just completely prove my point, you expected us not to succeed and we proved you right. we all knew that this squad wouldn’t last the pace, why didn’t our manager and if he did why didn’t he do anything about it?

If he thought they were good enough then one has to ask how could he be so wrong!!! everyone critisizes those smug gits in the media, on BBC, on talksport, former arsenal players wright and merson for example for all saying the same thing, the squad wasn’t big enough!!! last week everyone said hansen was out of order for saying if we lost against chelsea it was over, when that was and is reality. as i said it has all been so predictable.

and pat to answer your question i thought and have said all year long we would finish 3rd or 4th and win nothing and that is what will happen.

Good idea G4L :)

dan, congratulations buddy. You won the title, even though there are 7 games left, we will give you the title now…because we know that you know we will finish 4th.

Who else plays God here and deserve a title?

Dan
you make some valid comments, articulately, objectively, free of rancour, and without hurling insults. I don’t agree with all of them but respect your opinions and would defend your right to express them even if I disagree with them.

As for that c**t ethan

All I am saying Dan is that we have been really unlucky fitness wise

I expected to us to struggle as I never expected Ade to score so many, Fabregas to score any, Sagna to be so good, and Flamini to complete the best CM partnership since Vieira and Petit.

We could still finish 2nd and win the Champions League and in my mind that would be a great season

If we just come 2nd or 3rd after the Injuries then that would be good Season.

Now that is true Jamie,

I dont mind the debate with Dan, at least he puts his point across in a educated way

G4E, i am not trying to be rude or completely negative but what planet are you living on. We will not win the league!!!!!!! Yes we have 7 games to go and in theory can get 21 points, but it aint gonna happen. if you have been watching us for the past month, the belief has completely gone, the players are tired and have no chance to be rotated. I guess wenger has given up and will rightly focus on the champions league. we can certainly beat liverpool and we should work towards that.

Wont win it but I think we will come 2nd though, the pressure is off now so the performances will improve, Chelsea have to travel to Man City and Everton too and of course a home game against Man Ure

2nd and Automatic Champions League would please me

i know the injuries have been bad, but i still don’t buy it, as firstly yesterday we had only two players out and still had a bench of walcott, bendtber, senderos and diaby, which is simply not good enough. and secondly as i have said many times, wenger has NEVER this season selected a 2nd tier player in a game he wants to win over a 1st team player. Not once. And that tells me all i need to know about how strong he really thinks the 2nd tier are. Look at eboue surely wenger can see he is a weak link (besides the rest of his faults) and yet he plays him every game, because he doesn’t rate or trust the other players.

Dan, I didn’t say we will win the league buddy. Read my comment again, I gave YOU a title for the great prediction.

Chill out man.

you were clearly being condesending. and i am chilled, peed off but chilled!!!

I just want the season to be over already.

nothing more coherent or intelligent or reasoned to say beyond that. I just want it all over now.

It feels it’s all about predictions for the worse here, and I thought I would give you the title.

As for you know who, the one with no name he gets the title of “Worse person in the world”. (Inspired by Keith Olbermann)

G4E, hah! :-D Thanks for that Olbermann reference. Nice to find something to make me laugh this morning. And you’re SOOOOOOO right!!!

:) You’re welcome NYmarcus.

We need something to laugh about…it seems all doom and gloom here when we are winning and when we are losing.

Dan you are so right. Just 2 players out injured and one of them Rosicky is a permanent liability lets hope EDS can recover. It amde me sad to see both Manu and Chelse bring their reserves off the bench, and look what we had, apart from the fact that they both had spare players who didnt make the bench. Its pitiful that Song who was one of the few players to really improve this season wasnt on the bench to replace Sagna instead of Diably who just cant cut it. AW has us all by the balls as if he leaves theres no manager out there who could inspire the team, AW is a great economist and spin doctor, but all this reliance on signing teenagers has proved fatal andhis repetitive comments that he has to keep faith with this group makes me sick. Give Ade a rest start Bendtner and Song against Bolton, and have Walcott on for the second half, as we have no one else on the wing to replace Ebuoe whos another passenger weve been carrying, its tragic that we have Ebuoe and Diably as wingers.

sol, i completely disagree with the statement that no other manager can etc, that is why he is untouchable and that isn’t correct. I don’t know who the manager could be, whether a rykard or someone else, but at some point he will no longer be the manager and to make that it has to be him or the club will fall apart is not appropriate. arsenal were here before and will last after him. thanks to his amazing work we are one of the richest clubs in the world with one of best stadiums, training facilityies and youth sets ups. i am sure another manager can take these blocks and build on them. dare i say it who would have thought ramos would have done so well so quickly there are good managers out there.

Agree with dan, no one ever is bigger than Arsenal. Arsenal will be there whatever happens.

But:
The only two ways Wenger will leave this club are:

1- He finished his contract & “he” wants to leave.

2- If some f*ck A$$ buys the club, and AW decides to leave.

People don’t see things long-term.

Arsenal is going about business the right way. With Chelsea and Manure in the market for the best players, we can’t afford anyone top drawer unless we make an early agreement, unearth them from the depths of European football, or get them very young. It’s the only way we can compete sensibly.

The thing is, we can sustain our spending. Manchester United in actual fact, cannot. Abramovich has made the game crazy, and I think we’ve got the best long-term plan.

G4E, i agree with your two points and the fact that there is little to no pressure on him is not good for the club. Love him for what he has done but i think some major mistakes have been made this year and he has been shown to be very fallible indeed.

Every one makes mistakes dan, I love him to death but he’s not God and never will be, no matter what he can achieve.

Until the moment our defense crumpled, Chel$ki fans were chanting “You don’t know what you’re doing” to Grant, until they scored and everything changed.

If we were a little lucky this year and won the title, every one hating Wenger now would be chanting “There is only one AW”.

So to put things in prospective, people go the way wind blows.

Two things that struck me very strongly while watching the game yesterday:

1. this season my old disgust and hate toward MU had overtaken my animosity towards Chelsea. I’d forgotten how truly miserable London’s “biggest club” is.

* first — It’s one thing when N’castle fans attack Big Sam during a game the way they did early in the season — after all, his results were hardly impressive. But for fans to sing the previous manager’s name like that when the current manager has had a good number of results in his first season….geezus, they’re just a miserable bunch.

* second — the total lack of sportsmanship on the part of Terry and even the damned asst. coach, who the ref had to expel from the touchline! Unbelievable! Imagine if that had been Gallas and an Arsenal asst. coach, we’d never hear the end of it.

2. I love Arsene Wenger but I sat there utterly mystified throughout 95 minutes wondering WHAT IT TAKES for him to sub Ade. Just what the hell does it take? Ade was useless yesterday — he wasn’t our only poor player but he’s our main man up front and it was like playing with 10 men. Do something, take him off and replace him with someone who’s got more drive, less complacency and fresher legs. I just don’t get it.

I DON’T THINK YOU CAN JUST TAKE YESTERDAYS GAME AND COMMENT ON THE SEASON IAS A WHOLE T DOESN’T WORK THAT WAY. IT WAS AN EVEN GAME UP UNTIL THE LAST 20 MINUTES, WHEN THERE MATURITY AND EXTRA STRENGTH TOLD, MUCH LIKE THE SEASON AS A WHOLE IN FACT. ANY LOSS AT CHELSEA IS NOT A DISASATER, THERE IS A GOOD REASON THEY HAVEN’T LOST THERE FOR 4 YEARS.

OF COUSRE EVERYONE MAKES MISTAKES, BUT PERSONALLY I AM NOT CONVINCED THAT HE HAS TAKEN AS FAR AS HE IS EVER GOING TO. THIS CURRENT BLIND FAITH GIVEN TO HIM IS RUNNING THIN AS FAR AS I AM CONCERNED.

AS FOR THE WIND BLOWS COMMENT, I DON’T AGREE EITHER, PEOPLE HAVE BEEN CONCERNED ALL YEAR ABOUT WHETHER WE COULD COPE. OF COURSE HAD WE HELD ON AND WON THE LEAGUE HE WOULD HAVE BEEN THE ULTIMATE HERO AND IT WOULD HAVE BEEN THE BEST WIN EVER!!! BUT YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN

Dan and others,
you are right, he is fallible and has made mistakes. A wise man learns from his mistakes. But remember one thing, we are a big club, not a huge club. Like it or not, we have been punching above our weight and that is down to Wenger.

F**k knows where Spurs get their money, Everton are skint, Chelsea were on the brink of bankruptcy before the Russian, Leeds? United and Liverpool are hugely in debt. It may be boring, but we are sensibly run without the financial input of egomainacs. Wenger has achieved that success on attendances of 38,000 until the last few years. It can be done, Porto, Ajax.

Yes, he has made mistakes but so have Real Madrid, Barca (buying increasingly injury prone TH for 16m?), United, 3 lean years with Liam Miller, Kleberson, Djemba-Djemba. I still fell he deserves some patience. If we’re 5 years without silverware, then it’s time to reconsider

Dan
btw, your middle paragraph, not quite sure what you mean. Almost a double negative

Jamie, i also agree he deserves patience, what i was saying is that if this summer we see the same inactivity in the transfer market and hear about how strong the current squad is and how ready they are and yet still see the same players again, the question will be has he leant from this years mistakes. the noises coming from him so far about next year are not encouraging but is is obviously very early days on that front.

what i meant was, has he taken us as far as he can. it will be hard to replicate what he has done in the past. especially when the game has changed so dramatically in the past 4 years with the huge influx of cash. i think he is fighting a losing battle with the purist views he has and philosophy he follows.

Dan
sure, don’t forget he usually comes out with this line before buying. Let’s hope.

Gallas has had a good season but, if Adams had played yesterday, we’d have seen the game out at 1-0.

i find when i l watch old games (like i did this week when i saw the arsenal v chelsea 3 2 kanu scoring fest) i find it totally depressing in comparison to todays lot. keown, adams, dixon, and parlour , you just knew they loved arsenal, even TH and Pires, DB so it’s not foreign thing, i just don’t feel the love besides a few players.

Wenger is not going to come out and say in public he’s buying so and so…So Chel$ki and Man Sh*t go and bid higher to ruin it for us.

You don’t know what goes behind the seen, people laugh at AW when he says I was going to sign Ronaldo..How do they know he’s lying? Maybe he tried and Man Sh*t got the news and paid much more than what we can afford at that time. Some selling clubs are sleazy too, they will intentionally tell other clubs to raise the price.

The man has been doing this for awhile, he will buy on his own terms not on someone else’s.

I think that happens dan because now we as fans indulge the players before they earn it.

Some like Diaby, the crowd was chanting his name a la Viera in the first year we signed him. What did he do to earn Viera’s chant?

I think I’m the pretty much one of the few who defend Ade on this blog, but I’m against the fans chanting his name all game long, they should be cheering Arsenal all game.

it is not about a specific player it is about his belief in the method of buying young and bringing them through and whether he needs to adjust it to bring in some experianced players to supplement the young talented players he has, not just rely on them. look at the current team who has got the stature, experiance and leadership qualities to drag them back up again. Gallas? we have seen some dodgy stuff recently, kolo? he has been all over place. where is the leadership?

i agree entirely with that look at vela he is 18 not even here yet and half the blog think he has already solved our wide problems next year.

I agree with the leadership part, I don’t think we have a leader. People say Gallas is a good leader, I don’t think he is, I even don’t think he is a good player ever since before coming to us.

Toure is so quite and I don’t think he is good as a leader. I really think Flamini could be a good leader and whp all of them into shape, Cesc eventually, but he is too too young for that.

i am not overly impressed with flam at the moment. clearly something is seriously up with the contract not being signed and with helb and ade those three h