Posted by: Yogi's Warrior | March 23, 2008

Stand And Deliver – Chelsea Preview

Whichever way you consider this afternoon, for once the hype generated by the media when describing the match is correct. Whilst it is not quite over, should there be a vanquished team at Stamford Bridge, it will be exceptionally difficult for them to win the title if Manchester United win at Old Trafford in the lunchtime kick-off.

That is by no means certain. Liverpool require victory in their pursuit of fourth place and a Champions League qualifying spot. Chelsea and Arsenal meanwhile need to win to maintain or close the gap on Manchester United. It has all the hallmarks of a tense London derby and of a draw.

Everyone has torn recent form for Arsenal apart seeking explanations for the four consecutive draws. No suitable answers have been found. It has been a mixture of wayward finishing, good performances by opponents, erratic form by individuals and injuries. Arsene commented that every game between now and the end of the season is a cup final. Some are more important than that comparison; when the fixtures are at the homes of your nearest challengers, it is the fact that you are denying them the points that increases the pressure surrounding the meeting.

Chelsea have been in good form over recent weeks, taking advantage of the slips by Arsenal to close the gap. Whilst they have been winning, there have been few truly convincing performances. At this stage of the season, the question is does that matter or are the points more important? In many respects, that assumption is correct but the performance levels inspires yourself and instils trepidation in your opponent. On that front, Arsenal’s psychological barrier is not only the four consecutive draws but also the tremendous home form that Chelsea have enjoyed; four years without a league defeat is some feat. That Arsenal were the last to taste victory fills the hyperbole of the commentators; that it was a totally different squad is conveniently forgotten.

The key to this area will be the midfield. Chelsea will seek to destroy Arsenal’s passing patterns; Flamini and Fabregas have to match the physical challenge and impose themselves centrally to allow Hleb and Eboue to break on the flanks. It is in these areas that Chelsea have vulnerability. Lining up with 4-3-3 is fine for attacking purposes but Kalou and Joe Cole are not noted for their defensive strengths when the formation segues into 4-5-1.

Despite the personnel, Chelsea remain susceptible in the centre as well. Tottenham exposed them from set pieces on Wednesday and that Chelsea were rocked showed with their attitude. The petulance displayed by Ashley Cole summed up everything I find loathsome about them. Even his apology subsequently seemed to me to be false, a smirk barely contained. It could be that he was reacting due to the circumstances, humility lost amid his nervousness about being caught, a naughty schoolboy in the headmaster’s office. To me though it was nothing short of conceit, a ‘so what attitude’, wondering what the fuss was about. It has nothing to do with the manner of his departure from Arsenal. Frankly, I do not care. He has gone, barely registering a footnote in the clubs history.

Perhaps the biggest psychological hurdle that Chelsea have to overcome is that in their manager’s mind. He knows only too well that on each big occasion this season, he has been found tactically wanting. It is this uncertainty that Arsene and the players must exploit. Conceding four goals damages a team’s confidence in much the same manner that scoring four will have boosted it. There is a strong probability that this afternoon will be a tight affair with the hosts concentrating on defence as much as attack to rectify the faults.

Mourinho built a squad that could stifle opponents before putting them to the sword late on in matches. No longer is the solidity there to build upon, particularly with Cudicini deputising for Cech. It would no surprise to see the latter taking his place in the line-up come kick-off.

For Arsenal, the central pairing of Gallas and Toure must rediscover the form shown when they were in tandem before the latter ventured into the African Cup of Nations and his subsequent injury. Middlesbrough exploited the weakness last weekend and Chelsea will do the same given the chance. Concentration is the key at the back, re-discovering their form as important as Adebayor doing likewise with his scoring touch.

The key figure up front may well be van Persie. He has the pace to trouble Carvalho and Terry or Alex and Terry, whichever pairing is fielded. Further, he has no discernable form for anyone to base a judgement on how he will play. Having been out for five months, it is difficult to assess how he will play. His ring-rustiness may buy him an advantage in causing a slight lapse in the Chelsea defence. A goal this afternoon though might do wonders for his self-confidence.

Above all though, the team must be committed. They have spoken all season about their confidence and belief in each other. Today that must shine through in a practical examination. Anything other than a United win must be capitalised on.

The team news emerging is that Arsene has the same squad as last week with no new injuries to report and no returnees. You would expect the same starting line-up as well with substitutes being used depending on the circumstances.

I would expect the line-up to be

Almunia; Sagna, Toure, Gallas, Clichy; Eboue, Fabregas, Flamini, Hleb; van Persie, Adebayor

With a bench of

Lehmann, Senderos, Song, Walcott, Bendtner

Despite some desire in certain quarters for Walcott to start, I do not think that will be the case. It will be as in recent games that he comes on for Eboue with say twenty or so minutes to go to stretch the Chelsea defence. If Arsenal are winning though he may not feature at all with Song coming into strengthen the midfield, replacing van Persie.

Whichever way the dice falls, it is sure to be tense. Enjoy the match wherever you are watching it. ‘til Tomorrow.


Responses

  1. Good write up YW; this is indeed the time for all good men to come to the aid of the party. Win or lose I hope the game is a reflection of how football should be played and not how to kick the other team off the park. We have the team to win likewise they also have the team to win. A draw would not quite cut it with me but having said that it would be better than a loss. If our team play to their abilities then we will win, of that I am sure. My nerves at this time are about to explode. Go you mighty gunners.

  2. OT I cannot see this game being “a reflection of how football should be played”, not with some of the nasty players in the chel$ki squad. Just hope we can produce a performance like we did in Milano.

  3. Steve you are most probably right, but irrespective of my opinions of Chelsea they do have players of quality and it could (if fairy dreams were true) produce a really top class game. I live in hope.

  4. OT as Chelsea need to win perhaps they will play a more open game. I do not think they can beat us in an open game but in a defensive one they are very good. Here’s to RVP scoring another cracker to win the game.

  5. I think we should be more worried about the Man U V Liverpool fixture . We are 2nd and will probably remain there unless Liverpool come thru for us !
    Whilst its imperative that we don’t LOSE ! I think that tactically wenger is more of a sure fire bet than grant in these BIG GAMES !. But you cannot ignore chevski’s history at home . If we win ! It will be a win i think of more significance than the AC Milan home fixture !

    Either way we had better get used to it ! as the way i see it is if we advance thru the C.L stages we could very well play Liverpool -then Chelsea with a Man U final … That would be totally twisted !
    You can never discount Barcelona but with all the potential manager replacement dramas surfacing over there i think that might take the shine off the team .. It begs the question if it is a all English club Final then why should it be played in Europe ?
    Wembley stadium seem the natural choice !

  6. Also id like to think that arsene would start with a 4-4-2 and take the attack to chevski , but in all honesty i think he will go with a 4-5-1 ….

    Midfield is where this game will be won or lost .
    And in these big games arsene has always gone a little negative .. The addition of another DM maybe even !

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  8. Great post Yogi.

    I think in this kind of game, it doesn’t matter what kind of form you had in prior games. Whoever shows up on the day, and have the better commitment, organization, and a clear plan will win the game. The game is equally important to both teams, managers, and clubs. In any other circumstances, a draw could be a fair result, but I hope we win today.

    We must not forget defense, and it would be a great advantage to score first, we kind of miss that so much.

    For me, winning is crucial today not just because of points, but more importantly for belief.

    Chel$ki are undefeated for four years at SB, but nothing is forever.

    All the way to the top Gunners.

    G4E

  9. This is one match Theo should should start ahead of Eboue. Eboue provides defensive abilities but he doesn’t offer much by way of offence. In fact, he can’t even put the ball in an open net, which he’s proven over and over.

    Theo is better attacking and can give Terry and Calvaho a lot of problems at the back and can score if he gets the opportunity. Theo has improved his defensive abilities as evidenced by the Milan game. Eboue might also be targeted by both the refree and the Chelsea players. Eboue has a disciplinary problem which we can’t afford to ignore in games like this as officials will just be ready to apply the law for any minor offence.

    In fact Arsene should think of offloading him next season so as to purge ourselves of the bad press his behaviour has imposed upon us.

  10. Do you think Chelsea fans want A. Grant to take Cashley off the starting 11 after his disgraceful tackle that went unpunished?

    Both managers stood by their players, some fans haven’t got a clue.

  11. Howard;

    Eboue gets far less bad press than rooney got at the start of his career..does that mean manutd shud have offloaded rooney?

    Arsene gets lot of bad press too compared to others mgrs..wud u offload arsene?

    since when do we start getting rid of players cause of bad press? how about drogba who generates so much bad press for chelsea cause of his statements of leaving…

    Theo still is impact players..not ready for starts..it has been proven over the period of time now..why do u think arsene is not putting him ahead of eboue…u think fans know better than arsene?

  12. adc
    Drog’s will be leaving come the end of the season and i wouldn’t be surprised if he ends up under management of the SPECIAL ONE ! So yes i think howard has a point ! And bear in mind walcott vela and sunu all play on the wings , so is there any room for him (eboue) next season ?
    He definitely will be on less minutes next season
    and is struggling i think in his new role ..Well struggling more than our other midfield players.
    He isnt a BAD player apart from the theatrics,but he doesnt score and i think he needs too , in order to maintain his spot within the club ..

    Theo is more than an impact player? , he is just termed as such because up until now thats the only role we are used to seeing him in ! He definitely deserves some time in the sun ..

    However i don’t think this is a game that he should start in ! The chevski’s are a strong team which could exploit theo .. Any other team i’d agree with howard , but theo might struggle with the physical presence of chevski on the wings, if he started up front with RVP id be in for that !
    Eboue thou will be targeted , it would be nice if rosicky was coming back for this game then we could play a solid 4 across the middle . I still think wenger will go with a 4-5-1 to upstage there midfield . I think chevski have the best midfield in the league (other than us ! ), so the battle will be a key factor in this game ..

  13. To expect Walcott to be as successful as Fabregas is a very bad idea, and shows very little understanding of the circumstances surrounding the progress of both players.

    Cesc played for two years in the middle of the Invincibles, 9 very strong players on the field + a 16 years old. Walcott plays in a new team, where he is not supported by the likes of Viera, TH14, Pires, and so on.

    Do not kill the player by over expectations and give him the chance to grow with the circumstances surrounding him not based on the prior success of 16 years old Fabregas before him.

    Walcott can be TH14 in the making, but TH14 came to us at 21 years old and already a world cup winner. Walcott came to us at 16 years old from a Championship team. I can’t believe I say this, but listen to the wise words from his England U21 Manager known as Psycho.

    Give Walcott the chance to grow normally, not inject him with false hype with the chance to play in a big game and fail.

    I don’t think any one is more anxious to see Walcott succeed as much as the manager who believes in him.

    Walcott 32 fan

  14. I don’t know why but I have a positive feeling this morning.

    Fingers ans everything else crossed.

    Come on the ARSENAL!!!

  15. I agree with the last person about Walcott. It would be a crying shame if he burned out before achieving his potential because of pressure and hype.
    As for today’s game, although a Leicester City supporter I have a soft spot for the Arse (I need something to believe in at the moment!). If they can pull it out of the bag as I know they can the match today could be awesome

  16. The squad:

    Almunia.

    - Sagna- Toure- Gallas- Clichy.

    - Eboue- Fabregas- Flamini- Hleb.

    - RVP.

    - Ade.

    4-4-1-1.

    If we score with thirty minutes to go, Song in for RVP (4-5-1).
    If not, Theo in for Eboue to look for the winner(4-4-1-1).

    Chelsea 1- Arsenal 3.

  17. So the day arrives, the first of 3 big four six pointers for us, and to be in with a shout come May I think we need at least 7 points out of them

    I actually think we will get a draw today, the record speaks for itself and whilst it is there to be broken I dont think we will do it today. I have tried to be more positive but just can’t see an Arsenal win, Chelsea are just too spawny. These Super Sundays or Grand Slam Sundays as they have called it today rarely deliver and I can see two draws and as you were at the top.

    I think a lot today will depend on who keeps their head, and I just pray that Eboue keeps his, as given the opposition I would play him rather than Theo. With Theo on the bench there is someone to bring on who can change the game if it is not going to plan. They know Eboue is hot headed though so i expect a bit of playmanship from the oh so sportsmanlike spice boys in Terry, Lampard, and Cole.

    But Hey, I will be praying we can pull it off and that Liverpool can do us a favour at Old Trafford,

    Come on Arsenal

  18. Burn out walcott ?

    what are you all on about?
    how is he expected to grow in your eyes ?
    by sitting on the bench like bentley ? or those before him ??

    The only way to let theo grow is to play him and let him adjust to the EPL .. He is eager to play and whilst we shield him , we will only stunt his growth !

    He is named in the initial squad for England , i think id rather listen to the likes of Capello than you plonkers who don’t want him to succeed …

    Cesc at the start of the season raved about him and said he was the best youth player he has ever seen ! Arsene has nurtured him for over a year and at 18 he is now ready to show the world what he can produce !

    Im sure with the mentality of those above , you are signing his demise and eventual departure from this club ..

    He is the only player who is not afraid of penetrating a defense and has shown that many times in his limited appearances,
    he can play a vital role in the next 8 games , give the kid a chance as we did cesc, if anything he is far more talented and a match winner already ..Let him play and we will have a world class player in the makings to strengthen our squad !

    Any other talk is just ludicrous

  19. Blimey Ethan

    I actually agree with you about something,

    I think it is the other way with Theo, I don’t think he is played enough and I actually felt we would lose his talent due to lack of first team opportunities…not burn out. I wanted to send him out on loan to get some games.

    It didn’t seem to harm Cesc..

    Still think he should be used as an impact sub today though but should be used more in the final few games

  20. Good post from you as usual Yogi.I suspect the bad blood n history around this fixture will make it a tense n personal affair. We will expect some ferocious battles in the midfield n hefty tackles all over the park but Arsenal will give as good as they get. A strong referee will be needed for every time terry or eboue makes a tackle n Drogba or Cole make a dive coz the crowd will be on his back! Red cars or penalyies could easily spoil the game.Chelsea are good on the break and shooting from ridiculuos distances when the cant get in the bo (Lampard, Essien) so it will be important to close them down.But I agree that they will have thier work cut out in a 4-3-3 formation when defending against us on the wing if and when we get the chances. Eboue will definitely start n Wallcott coming on if we r chasing the game and Song coming on to close the game down. Chelsea will come out of the blocks storming an I think we will just absorb it hol the ball n wait for our chances.I am hoping for a win and looking forward to Lawro, Hansen, Wrighty, Linekaar, Gray the pundits choking on their Arsenal have lost their way mantra. Man U never lost their way when the couldnt win a game!And you can be sure if they dont win today they still wont have los their way will they. El Nino to break Mancunian hearts!

  21. http://www.guardian-series.co.uk/sport/topstories/
    display.var.2140537.0.flamini_news_will_rock_gunner
    s.php
    I hope this is just old news but a bit of a worry just before our match? Anybody seen this article before??

  22. Yes pat me too ! i think people saying he’s not ready is just a cop out .. its just like denilson .. or senderos
    If they havent got time to gain confidence what good are they having in the squad ?

    Id hate to see theo go out on loan .. could you imagine him adding to the destruction of us if he joined boro , or changed one or 2 of those draws into losses with birmingham etc…

    Too many of our players look out of sorts at the moment and he is a breath of fresh air when arsene gives him limited time on the pitch !
    Maybe a full game is stretching it but id like to see him play 70 minutes ! It would be idea to unleash him after the 2nd half , when chelseas old boys are feeling fatigued ! I think if he starts he will get out classed by experience , but after chevski’s fatigue sets in .. let him loose for a good 40 minutes …

    hey pat you might get a get out of jail free card on flamini .. but didnt he make you sweat :) ?

    He definitely is a money seeker . looking for parity with cesc ! Lets hope arsene lets out the moths and gives him the money he wants !

  23. old timer .. no that is pretty current id say , also we know that 48-72 hours ago arsene released a statement that he is confident he will stay (meaning they must of discussed it again recently )

    If you read between the lines id say flamini wasnt happy as the below suggests

    Arsenal are thought to be unwilling to pay more than £50,000 a week for the 24-year-old, who could earn much more than that in Italy as well as cash-in on his free transfer status.

    So pat , you owe me a beer :)

  24. Hold the Beer Ethan, I think it is just paper talk

    I imagine that the agents may even be releasing these little snippets to put pressure on Arsenal. I think if Flamini had wanted to leave then he would have signed for AC back in Jan/Feb. Not only that but I like to keep the faith that sure he wants the right deal but likewise he wont go and play sub-standard football in front of half empty stadiums. I am sure style and quality of football is ultimately more important

    I will stick to the horses mouth for the time being, Flamini says he wants to stay and the gaffer says things are on track for a contract sign in April, and for now I will believe them more than a tabloid journo looking for a big four headline on grand slam sunday.

    And hey even if he did go, It would be more Flamini’s loss as he would be moving for the wrong reasons.

  25. Well, Flamster is great but shouldn’t collect more than any of his midfield partners. If Flamster can’t take 50+ then may be Arsene should allow him to leave. Cesc and Hleb I’m told are not getting that much so I don’t see why Arsene should give him higher wages. He just broke into the first XI this year after few years of part-player.

    Arsenal have a lot of players coming upstream, players like Gibbs, Randall and Lansburi should be given opportunities to develop. Arsene has been patient with Diaby, Denilson, Senderos, Song and others and its time to push through some of these English potentials rather than sell them off as has been the norm of late.

    We need English players in the team and we should do everything to push those with prospects into the first XI.

  26. Well we havent won anything for a while mate …
    Ac milan have just had 1 bad year and even now there back to 5th spot .. C.L crowns .. Cash incentives to sign (probably in the millions) higher wages.. I think ill keep the same stance on the matter too .. :)

    But hey see the 1st half ? shows ya what i mean about a ref’s influence in the game … And shows you how although rooney ain’t been scoring he’s been the play maker of there front line .. Dreadful sending off from the ref ! no consistency in his judgments , but likewise the Argentine should of kept his mouth shut ! He has now made it a MUST WIN FOR US !

  27. Oncea gain the FA and their cronies wants to hand over the title to United.

    May be at the beginning of the season they just need to give the title to MANU before a kick off.

    Its just disheartening to see refrees doing everthing to avoid the big mouth of Sir Alex. Every official does Sir Alex’s biddng at Old Trafford; its amazing. He says foolish things and gets unpunished.

    It will be hurting to see MANU lifting their 10th title underSir Alec this season. I hope it doesn’t happen ‘cos we had all the chances to do it but things are getting tighter.

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  29. i just hope the ref doesn’t spoil it like the man utd – liverpool game

  30. Well its a MUST WIN NOW!
    theres still a few key games to happen in the near future chevski v man u will be a key factor, but like a few pundits have already stated the momentum is with them now .. So we can only try and win the last 8 games and pray for any slip ups ..

    We should have won our easy games, but if we lose
    tonight 3rd spot will be calling …

  31. Why can’t Adebayor shoot like RvP? Its frustrating.

    Eboue’s behaviour once again; Arsene should change him before he gets a second card.

  32. I don’t think we are good enough as a team to win the title yet. We are so naive.

    For me, the worst player was Gallas. Now you can understand it’s not Senderos fault to lose battles against Drogba, we just don’t know how to handle him.

  33. Howard what is frustrating is listening to all the ade lovers abuse the shite out of me and they go missing after another abysmal performance.

    Any of you DEAD HEADS who are still having trouble with what i mean about world class striker NEEDED only has to take a look at DROGBA Vs ADE !

    Seasons as good as over .. Sanga had to score because our front line couldn’t ..
    FOR 90 MINUTES !
    RVP had a few shots and credit too him !
    He didnt get any support and if anyone needed to be sub’d off it wasnt him !

    Almunia for man of the match .. it could have been a lot worse had it not been for him !!

  34. well thats all folks

    I know mathematically we can still win it but come on lets face reality it aint gonna happen. I dont even put it down to todays result, we should have all 12 points in the previous 4 games and maybe our lack of squad depth has cost us.

    Wasn’t a bad performance but it worries me that our strikers were anonymous in that game.

    So where do we go from here, personally I think we seriously forget the premiership the odds are too stacked against us, but we pretty much assured of finishing in the top four and given our lack of squad depth lets go all out on the Champions League, Liverpool will be no easy task but what else have we got

  35. It’s over. The result of over-reliance on Adebayor who can’t shoot has come home to roost.

    We need strikers who can shoot. We made pleadings to Arsene to get a real goal poacher in the team but he said he was going to keep faith with these players who can just take us that far.

    Four draws against mid table and lower teams destroyed us. Draws against Birmingham, Wigan, Aston Villa and middlesborough; games we should have won.

    We needed Anelka and yet Arsene so stubborn will not burge togo for him, meanwhile Adebayor is not the complete striker.

    Almnia was excellent and seems to be the man of the match at the Arsenal side.

  36. We played well, but we lost.

    It’s a bit perplexing, we worked as a team and tried to pass our way through them, carving out some decent chances.

    Chelsea achieved more just by pumping the ball into Drogba.

    I’m not sure what that means. We are missing something, though

    I don’t subscribe to all the Adebayor hatred, but I have to admit I barely saw him today. As for Eboue, well enough said on that.

    As for the league. Not dead yet, I’d say we’re on life-support.

  37. Ethan

    I think you are wrong to blame Ade as he is the one striker who has a good goal tally and has stayed fit, why do you not angle your frustration at Van Persie, Bendtner or Eduardo.

    our title hopes ended today, and I personally put it down to the previous 4 games not today, and unfortunately I can only put this down to a lack of quality depth to the squad, a situation that would only arise this late in the season when fatigue, injuries and suspensions take there toll.

    Andy Gray mentioned that maybe it was a season too soon for us, but I dont go with that, we had the money and maybe I was wrong in thinking that adding to the squad in January would be more hinderous than help

    Only plus for me today is that Liverpool did not show me anything that should worry us in getting a Semi Final place. only snag is that Chelsea sit the other side of it

  38. G4E

    I don’t think we are good enough as a team to win the title yet. We are so naive.

    I support the team !!! any team member ! 100%
    (quote 2 days ago)

    then you call them naive!!!

    then you go on and say

    For me, the worst player was Gallas.

    if thats support , id hate to see get angry with them ! and aimed at the captain too !
    your a hypocritical fool !
    you should be blaming our strikers for NOT SCORING !

    Drogs is just too pacey , and you need quick defenders .But any Class striker is of that caliber !

  39. Don’t blame everything on Ade. I just saw a collective learning curve today, versus Chelsea’s fully geared, mature, almost mechanically efficient players.

    The ref’s decision on Drogba’s 1st goal didn’t help.

    But to see the fundamental problem, we just have to look at how many times we had to rely on Almunia’s wonderful saves, versus how many times we tested Cudicini. Such a big waste that we didn’t exploit that potential weak link in the team while Cech’s out you know.

    And I wouldn’t have complained had Eboue been sent off for a 2nd yellow. If he’s shown some signs that he’s learning from his mistakes, I wouldn’t be this disappointed.

    Don’t get me wrong. It’s not a lack of effort. Far from a lack of talent. It’s just the sheer amount of qualified bodies (in terms of talent + fitness + right frame of mind) that we lack.

  40. Big Al

    Seriously got to let it go mate, it really is not going to happen, we seriously need to put all our eggs in the Champions League Basket.

    and as for Eboue, I am usually really critical of him as I really cant what Arsene can, but following a booking in the 4th Minute I honestly thought then get Theo on, but fair play he had the composure to stick it out. He still had an poo game though

  41. now it’s my moment to gloat about being right on Ade. You guys and G4E had your moment when Ade was scoring, now it’s my moment when he is not

    So #### you all, and listen to me i know it all.

  42. pat theres so many reasons why!

    1. always off side
    2. gives away possession every time he receives it
    3. does not embrace our passing game
    4. will not pass to his strike partners
    5. Has an Ego the size of henry minus the skill !

    He did nothing Vs chevski ! NOTHING !
    He did not cough up possession quite as much, and i will say this is his best game in the last 10 outings !
    But still not good enough to front arsenal !
    Yes RVP has been out and thats frustrating , but we all know from last season that RVP is all class.
    And if he’s injured HE’S INJURED ! just like dudu , you cannot blame him for being injured !
    The only person to blame is arsene for not buying
    more players !

    But you can blame someone for not having the skill , eg. eboue V’s chevski ! After watching the manU game i thought eboue was going to get sent off too ! gallas stopped him from it !

    toure had a good game !
    But ade’s position on the pitch requires him to
    SCORE ! passes are directed to him .. he needs to deliver !

  43. Ethan, sit on you posts for a while before you post them. It does the blog no favours at all.

  44. What I will stick to though is my pre-season prediction of a 4th place battle. I am more than happy to say I was wrong in that

    We have already achieved more than I imagined pre-season, and what I hope now is that we can secure 2nd place and stay in single digits of Man Ure.

    However I do feel I was right in saying that we did not strengthen enough and injuries to Rosicky, Theo, Van Perise and Eduardo have highlighted that. We are too reliant on playing people out of position on the left and right wing and if you want to win things then sorry that is not good enough,

    Future is good though, we have Vela coming back in the summer, Flamini will sign and given the long term absence of Eduardo I expect a competent striker to arrive in the Summer. Goalkeeper is needed though, Almunia why did you keep punching balls I could have caught

  45. Ethan

    Are you an Arsenal Fan.

    I ask as why would you want to gloat about things going wrong for a team you supposedly support

  46. That’s “your posts” btw.

    Haha, the irony.

  47. i spell my name in lower case you stupid f######
    fag ! so have some b@lls and use another nic !

    Ade playing every 31 games for 19 goals when your the only fit striker in the squad who plays 90 minutes a game isnt THAT GREAT !
    considering our passing game sets up our strikers !
    i think 19 is woeful ! Vs chances !

    STOP USING MY NIC YOU GIMP !

    your right about the last sentence however !

    :)

  48. The way we are playing we would get beaten by Liverpool. I’m serious. Our attack was pathetic from open play. Almost no shits taken, Adebayor totally useless. He couldn’t win anything in the air, couldn’t pass, poor 1st touch, and basically poor positional sense also. Was never impressed by him and is still the same until now. So many fans here say his physical presence helps create openings but I’d say it’s all load of bull. If physical attributes are what we’re looking for then Peter Crouch is WAAAAY better than Ade. Heck, he can even pass and create chances better. I’m not bashing any players here but enough is enough with Ade. We should stop making him our main striker. People are saying look at his strike-rate but seriously if you put Torres or even Anelka how many more goals we would have scored?

    Generally seeing the way the team play the past month is seriously disappointing. We look so out of depth in the league I think we deserve not to win anything this season, just so the players can do some reflection. We were doing so well in the beginning of the season only to let it all slip near the end… all this for what??? We were lucky enough to get a lead but we let it slip less than 10 mins after that.

    By the way Chelsea is a cheating team IMO. When Joe Cole went down in our penalty area our team was counter attacking and fairplay to us we kicked the ball out of play to let him get treatment. Then what happened? Terry kicked the ball out way deep into our half, and then Chelsea has the audacity to put their players to pressure us during the throw-in! What a bunch of cheap cheaters. I can’t believe people can suport a cheating team like this. And I can’t believe the match commentators were saying how they deserves to win this game. Well, its all bullshit if you had to cheat your way to win this game. Shame on you, Chelsea.

    This season is over for me. We do not have enough quality at the moment to win the CL too. Our attack is toothless. We need a good striker to make use of all the ball and chances the team is creating. And Ade is definitely not the one.

    What a bad night for me. I’m seriously pissed we lost to a team like Chelsea.

  49. Gackt, did you watch Liverpool at OT?

  50. Gack13

    well said on the Joe Cole Injury, that summed up everything I hate about Chelsea. I cant wait till the day that Abramovich pulls out, they are truely screwed. no History no Class and worse than the Spuds

  51. Have your moment when we are down Ethan, gloat as much as you like. That’s the only time people like you come out of their dark caves. Go join Chel$ki & Man Ure in their parties. I’m sure they would welcome someone like you.

    Yes, I supported every one till the last minute of the game, but I wanted to point out to every one who blamed Senderos for being weak against Drogba, yet the all experienced Gallas couldn’t handle him. When Gallas wears the shirt for next game, I will be cheering him on to do better, not to ask for his head.

    Yes we were naive, we allowed them in the game after we were ahead and that’s only because we didn’t have the experience to slow down the game. We defended the long ball (our killer) like school boys. There is a difference between constructive criticism and plain degrading comments on our players, something you are so good at. I wonder if you are good enough for anything else?

    You’re so stupid Ethan, so so stupid that I can’t recall ever meeting someone as stupid as you are. You should donate your brain for research, if you have one.

  52. Pat
    i love my team but i dont like arsenes choice of striker ! he does all the above 1-5 and ive never liked what he has added to the team !too UN arsenal like ! and i got shite for saying it .. i got in the shite for saying replace him and get another striker in jan transfer window and i was right ! and the arsene knows best club are so wrong !

    we could have won this ! if we got in a few players,
    and i hope now this goes along way to proving we need EXPERIENCE !!!!

    Im bitter and disappointed ! and i need to take it out on the idiots who I had to listen too !!

    Who were sooo wrong , yet tried to make you believe !

    big gay al !
    shut the f### up !

  53. Only partially. Liverpool was unlucky to have Mascherano sent late in the first half. But Man Utd is in a different league at the moment. Ronaldo is almost godlike at the moment too.

    But trust me. We will not beat Liverpool. That’s how poor we are right now. Liverpool only lost by such a big margin because they were trying to chase the game WITH ONE MAN DOWN.

    The only positives I can take out of the game against Chelsea is Almunia. He almost single-handedly keep us in the game. And maybe Sagna’s fortunate 1st goal for Arsenal.

  54. Well said Gunner4ever

    I dont know what is worse, loosing or having a supposed Arsenal fan gloat over the fact to proove his doom mongering right

    Hey I predicted a 4th at best finish for Arsenal this year, but have taken pleasure in being proved wrong, what is wrong with him

  55. Look at Ade. I mean, come on. All my friend who are not Arsenal fans knows Ade will pass the ball back-field eveytime he gets the ball. Even my Chelsea fan friend who was watching the game with me.

    I mean, come on… is that all he can do? He is probably the most one dimensional stiker I have ever seen. Sometimes strikers receive a ball he tries to look for an opening with is awareness and makes a positive pass, or he might try to turn his and get pass his marker. When have you seen Ade do that before. Man… I hope you guys don’t think I’m bashing him, but throughout the season I’ve tried so hard to keep my opinion of him positive but his ineffectiveness in attack really caught up with me today and I just have to let it out here.

  56. See now I think now is time to bring the mad man Lehmann back. I think Almunia was punching too much today

    I think we will beat Liverpool. Mascherano was a fool. given the press of the last week he was always going to be given the red card Trashley should have got against the spuds.

    We do have a problem though, we have a Striker out of sorts and one coming back from injury.

  57. I turned it off with about 30 seconds to go, what did Wenger say?

  58. I keep recalling what Arsene said in a post-match interview about Ade scoring some header in the CF position: “It’s his style, he loves to drift wide and goes back to collect the ball because he wants to be involved. But today we’ve seen how lethal he can be if he stays in the centre.” Can someone tell him to go back to that “big guy up front” role, now that we’ve got RvP back in the “Bergkamp” role behind him, doing the link-up and stuff that he just so loves to do? Please?

    That means I don’t think Ade is not good enough. But his tactical awareness about the role he should play isn’t there. He lets his own “style” overshadow that judgement.

  59. well if it makes you feel better !
    every time ive criticized ade he wasn’t wearing his shirt either !! or playing !

    so whats the difference between when you say it ? about gallas !!

    and i say it ???

    I was praying ade could of scored !!!

    but as usual HE DIDNT !
    my arguement is with you not ade !!!
    and your attitude !!!
    your an arrogant little man !

  60. Ok I hope you guys wouldn’t think I said this on hindsight… but after our lead, I have a nasty feeling Chelsea would equalise. I just didn’t expect them to win the game too. Sigh…

    Another thing I noticed was everytime someone crossed or was trying to make a pass to play Ade (who else, he’s our only striker) into the penalty area, he is always out of position, hanging around just outside the penalty area. COME ON WHAT ARE YOU DOING THERE YOU’RE A STRIKER! He can’t turn and shoot if he gets the ball outside the penalty area because he simply can’t do that and HAS NEVER DONE THAT BEFORE; he can’t make a pass that will play our other players through because HE CANT PASS. What other prove do Wenger need that Ade is not our main man?!?! Sigh…

  61. I’m not really sure Pat, it’s sad to have a fan like this between us. His personal gain is far more important than the common cause. His glory is not in supporting the team, but supporting himself.

    Fans like him make a defeat even worse than it should be.

    I’m signing off guys, so he can bark at his shadow.

    I hope we do better in the next games.

    G4E

  62. I don’t know what today’s result will do to our own confidence.

    But Liverpool aren’t looking strong either. If you saw how Liverpool played today, and judging from the fact that the only thing consistent about them is their inconsistency, we can fancy beating them. They looked poor, even Torres had an off day, despite their recent run of results. You just never know. Without Mascherano in PL next week – but Xabi Alonso looked ok after he gained his place back – we should be able to give them a good game.

  63. I agree Lou

    after watching the Man Ure Liverpool game, I really did not see anything to concern us, even on our result today.

    we just need to cement 3rd now and anything about that is a bonus, but the real concentration should be on the Champions League, we can win that if we play to our true potential. Fingers crossed we stay fit.

  64. Lou seriously I don’t know what kind of a good game we can give Liverpool. We were totally toothless today. Actually not only today. We’ve been pretty much toothless since late January.

    And the thing I fear is Liverpool’s inconsistency. If the good Liverpool turns up the next match we’re screwed, seriously.

  65. You are using the slang language again?

    “your” an arrogant little man?

    Should be “You’re or You are”. Talk to me when you know how to speak.

    Now go ahead, keep barking.

  66. I know we should all still feel optimistic about the season as fans, but it’s really hard to, after all the shit we’ve been through since the Birmingham game where we lost Eduardo. Everything has just gone downhill form there. Even the Milan game is scant consolation. Milan seriously hasn’t been on a good run on form when we beat them at San Siro that night. We actually made them look good that night.

  67. read lou’s comments and gackt13 G4E !
    maybe youll take notice of them !

    all i stated is he isnt good enough !
    pat you have to point the finger at the under achiever !

    goals win matches ! whats he in the team for if he doesn’t score !? and given so many chances to do so ! and everyone keeps going on about his 19 goals in 31 games ! pat watch the boro game mate and tell me how many times he gives away possession ! and still doesnt score.. DO IT ! i dare you !

    I love my club and im prepared to look our problems in the face!!! not HOPE and pray ..
    tonight you see where hope has got us !

    We need an experienced striker !
    how long do we have to wait until we get one or nurture one ???

  68. I think the question now is

    Are we just a Season or Two early or do we need to spend some money on Squad depth?

    I don’t think we need a major overhaul at all, with Vela coming back in the Summer, and Nordtveit coming through at CB we are not that short. I do think we could do with another Striker especially with Eduardo out long term and I do think we need a winger or too (How far away are Gibbs, Lansbury etc), I am still not convinced by Bendtner but he shows promise, but if you want to win the Premiership can you do it with unproven players? I am not sure

  69. ethan…. I have to correct you…. Ade wasn’t given a lot of chances, because his poor sense of positioning and lack of awareness made it hard even for Fabregas to put out a telling pass for him.

    Just look at what Eduardo did for us when he got a run of games before he got injured as a striker instead of playing on the wing. Chances are carved out by Fab and co., and Eduardo was there to finish them off.

  70. Gackt I know, I was absolutely ecstatic when Sagna scored his 1st Arsenal goal, only to hit the bottom when we went on to lose it – to a combination of toothlessness as you said and a poor ref decision which I couldn’t even bring myself to dwell on too much because of our own deficiencies.

    I’m also worried about Sagna’s injury. Hope Hleb, Kolo and Eboue are ok too.

    Even if David failed to beat Goliath, David is still the admirable David.

  71. Yes Ethan he did have a poor game against Boro, but I just dont get why you don’t point your anger towards our other Strikers or to Wenger if you feel that way

    Hey I find Ade frustrating but apart from his current dip in form (Which every striker has) he has moved on big time this year, forget the games he has played, he is only behind Torres as the top striker goal scoring wise and that includes Berbatov, Keane, Tevez, Anelka, Martins, McCartney, Owen ETC,

    Seriously he cant be that bad, dont blame the player

  72. The PL official site says Eboue’s on 3 yellows (may not be up-to-date). So he’s only 1 yellow card from suspension. How come only 3 (while Cesc’s got 8 this season)..?

  73. Are we David in the first place? Maybe, considering the lack of depth in our squad, the lack of a proper winger and the serious lack of players who can actually manage a decent shot. Only players whom I think are good shooter (or at least average) are Rosicky and Eduardo.

  74. Pat how can you still harp on the fact that he has scored 19 goals in the EPL? Why can’t we blame our other strikers? Oh… I think it’s because most of them never get a chance to have a decent run in the games, whereas Ade has and he has shown no improvement over the season on his shooting, passing, 1st touch, and postional sense? I think maybe it’s also because RVP has been injured and out for most of the season and has only come back to the team 2 weeks ago?

    We do so many of the fans still think Ade is the main man and we should give him support no matter what? It’s time to really take stock of how he is doing so far this season, give a proper assement and if he is really lacking, we should all admit to the fact.

  75. we are now 3rd !
    is there any difference between this year and last year? 3rd or 4th still means you win F.A !
    it still means you need to qualify for the C.L !
    We still won nothing ! YES IM GUTTED !

    pat he’s been on 19 goals for a long time now !
    throughout our 4 draws ! plus more !

    yes if you think he’s frustrating then whats the problem in me saying it ?? Im a straight shooter !
    not point in beating around the bush !
    over all ! you cant blame the defense ! clichy was outstanding and toure ,say no more about sagna !.. gallas tried hard against a world class striker .. our midfield controlled the ball equally or even better with the movement we had .. its our strikers that let us down !
    and you cant blame RVP fresh off an injury ..
    plus RVP shot more than ade !!! with less supply
    ade needed to be the provider today!..
    HE didn’t even get close .not even a single shot offered in the 1st half !. like the past 5 EPL games he’s played !

    plus the amount of spankers on here who think he’s great need t be put in there meager footballing place for abusing me in the past about
    a sport they clearly know nothing about !

    goodnight you ade plonkers ! im sure you all think he had another GREAT GAME !

  76. Hold on Guys

    Even if the season ended now, is 19 goals not a good return for a Player like Ade,

    Come on how many did any of you think he would score this Season, my prediction would have been 10-12

    All I am saying is dont blame Ade, I think his goal return has been exceptional, its not his fault RVP and Eduardo have been injured, he is a support striker not a fox in the box, Jesus only a bloody good Torres is in front of him, please give the guy some credit

  77. Gackt, I understand what you’re saying. We probably had the thinnest squad among the top 4 teams to begin with. But to say we lack good shooters apart from Rosicky and Eduardo is to forget someone called Robin van Persie.

    Looking back, I thought apart possibly from one winger, I still don’t think Arsene did a bad job in acquiring new blood last summer. It’s obviously not his mistake that caused Eduardo, Rosicky and RvP to spend so much time out injured. Whether we can learn from our experiences with them though, I think we can and we should. e.g. whether some players have structural problems in their bodies like the Czech doc said about Rosicky, how to gauge better when to let players make their comebacks instead of rushing them back, even teaching players how to better protect themselves when there’re so many cowards and thugs around, etc. Those we can still improve. But otherwise, it’s sheer bad luck.

    And then another thing we need to assess is whether some fringe/squad players are good enough. I’m honestly having doubts over Eboue. He’s got talent and all that. We also forgave him for some of his behaviour on the pitch. But what gets on my nerve after today is that he doesn’t seem to have learnt or even to be learning from his mistakes. How to bring the best out of Diaby is a question too, cos I don’t think we should get rid of him at all. We’ve got 2 fantastic full-backs, but are their understudies good enough now? Traore seemed a wonderful youngster in last year’s CC, he and Denilson are hitting that stagnant patch in their learning curves. etc etc. These are the things we need Arsene to think about.

    But other than these, we’ve got a very strong core of players in the back 4, Cesc, Flam (if he stays – that’s another thing to be discussed), Rosicky, Hleb, strikers, when they’re fit.

  78. The Difference Ethan is we are not 20+ points behind

    FOR THE LAST TIME, ADE IS NOT A FOX IN THE BOX, HE WILL NEVER BE A 30+ GOALS A SEASON PLAYER,

    tell me Ethan how many goals did you honestly think Ade would get this year? is he above the target you set him?

  79. I think we’ll see better performances from here on in; the pressure’s well and truly off now. That means we’ll go into all the big games as underdogs, and that will suit us fine.

    Thinking back to our expectations the start of the season you have to say it’s been relatively successful. Everything needs to be looked at on a broader scale.

    The team is bloody young. The rule of thumb says that players improve throughout their twenties. If that’s the case, then there is one hell of a lot to look forward to from our boys.

    The seed could be set for a team that will rule England and Europe for the next few years. Maybe I’m taking an optimistic view, but the signs are certainly there.

  80. Because he is the only man we have upfront gackt13, and you don’t mention that if he was really that bad, where would we be in the league, Fighting the spuds for 10th?

    He has his problems, but without him this season we could’ve been really fighting for 10th place. He is not the awesome striker every one wants, but it’s not his fault that our other strikers are injured or not ready. He had to take it all on his shoulders and instead of encouraging him for trying and scoring 19, we want to kill him because he didn’t score 30.

    Is that what you are trying to say? We know this is what ethan want to say.

  81. Let’s, who from our side will we let go because of their age in the summer?

    Gilberto and Lehmann. Hardly week in, week out performers for us this season. All we really need is a couple of first-team players in the summer to make us frighteningly good.

  82. Gunn_With_The_Wind

    Great Comment

  83. I agree Big Al, that’s why I agree with the manager when he keeps saying his 1st priority is to keep this team together – that’s how happy he is with this team’s potential because he knows we have a few good years ahead of us. That’s also why I keep hoping and hoping Flamini will just sign that new deal. After having one more year together, the team will truly mature next year and beyond. (Sorry to sound like a Spurs fan when it comes to “next year”.) But I’m optimistic from a broader perspective.

  84. The result today was disappointing, but mathematically it’s not over, and there’s still all to play for.

    Anything can happen between now & the end of the season, in terms of Man Utd & Chelsea unexpectedly dropping points, so there is no reason for the team to throw in the towel.

    I admit that Utd are certainly in the driving seat, and the title looks like theirs to lose.

    However if Utd do go on to win the title this season, it won’t be because they supposedly have greater strength in depth than Arsenal.

    It’ll be because:

    1) they are generally much more
    efficient and ruthless in converting scoring
    opportunities into actual goals, and

    2) Ronaldo has been playing like a man
    possessed since the 2006 World Cup (which
    nobody can legislate for) and has saved Utd’s
    bacon time & time & time again.

  85. Pat you got it all wrong. If Ade is a support striker where is his passing skill? Scoring 19 goals does not make him a good striker. With a number of chances our team is able to carve out, he SHOULD GET MORE considering the fact he is our main striker. Imagine how many Torres would get if he’s in our team. OR Ronaldo (even though he is a winger) or Santa Cruz? The cold hard fact is a lot of our attack impetus is stop dead in it’s track everytime Ade gets the ball. He either loses the advantage of our attack by getting a poor 1st touch to the ball and having to spend extra precious seconds to run to the ball and get it back under control (provided he doesn’t lose it, which he has done on several occasions) or he would get the ball, pause on it for a while, then pass it backfield to a teammate. HOW MANY TIMES HAS THAT HAPPENED THIS SEASON? Let all be honest with this.

    The last straw for me was during the Birmingham game when Bentner was through and all Ade had to do was to square the ball to Bendtner for us to secure the game 2-0. Instead he opted for personal glory and in the end Birmingham equalise. He obviously saw Bentner wad through but through his own vainess he went for the shot.

    Shrugs. How many of you guys out there actually hopes Ade is still our main striker next season. Come on, honestly.

    Btw Lou, yeah I missed out RVP. SLipped my mind. He’s a pretty decent shooter too.

  86. yes pat point taken

    , but remember a few things
    cesc came of age and so did flamini ,hleb was in fine form ( although hes a bit flat recently) , they create SOOO many chances with there quick movement
    if henry was here he would be on course for a record
    scoring season !
    ade has coughed up the ball constantly , one way or another he disrupts our passing game ! can you imagine how many goals he’s lost for us ??? though lost possession ?

    its a dam sight more than 19 !
    and yes 20 would be about right for him if he continues with the likes of bendtner , because he simply wont pass to him !
    If we put you there pat im sure you’d get over 15 in a season ! stand in the box and wait too get room service ! My debate has never been about how many he’s scored .. my debate is how effective a striker he is ! .. stats dont cover what you see on the pitch ! how he cant beat a man !
    how his runs are often offside ..
    and like 80 % of the time he gives up possession in some manner !
    Our midfield with the right striker would be x2 more prolific than ronaldo on steroids !

  87. ethan I couldn’t agree more. Why couldn’t so many of the fans see this fact. Sigh…

  88. magneto

    1) they are generally much more
    efficient and ruthless in converting scoring
    opportunities into actual goals, and

    YES MEANING THEY HAVE WORLD CLASS PLAYERS (MORE DEPTH IN THERE SQUAD)

    2) Ronaldo has been playing like a man
    possessed since the 2006 World Cup (which
    nobody can legislate for) and has saved Utd’s
    bacon time & time & time again.
    (AGAIN MORE DEPTH BECAUSE THEY HAVE SEVERAL WORLD CLASS SCORERS WHICH WE DONT HAVE )

    it all adds up to lack of experience magneto ..
    our team doesnt go past a 1st 11 !
    when we get 2 or 3 injuries (that happen every year ) we suffer .. it due to a lack of quality players .. or depth !

    To dig yourself out of a form slump at this end of the season requires experience ! having been there before , to dig deep ! gallas and toure have it .. but 2 out of 11 wont win us any title !

  89. Lou, Sky Sports said Eboue’s card today was his fifth.

    What no one has mentioned is the most important conclusion I have drawn from today: as much as we like him, Kolo Toure is not, and will never be, a world-class centre-back.

  90. Even if our midfield keep churning out chance after chance, if you keep using one single striker to shoulder the burden of scoring, he’ll get tired. And now is about time, after 19 goals and getting us to the top spot. It’s unfortunate that Eduardo got injured when Ade’s already tiring, RvP only coming back now and needing a few games to get back in form. We can always criticise Ade for not doing even more because of his style. He loves the 2nd striker role, that’s obvious. We can either convert him into a centre forward, using the potential he has in physical strength, work rate and all that, barring him from doing RvP’s job.

    Or we can debate what kind of an out-and-out centre forward would fit into our team. Torres-type or Berbatov-type or whatever striker we happen to dream of? And what price tags are associated with them.

    Or we can debate how ManU have been thriving w/o traditional centre forwards while Louis Saha’s always injured. What’s kind of distorting the ManU picture a little bit is Ronaldo scoring all those goals for them. Many articles in the press have talked about how other areas e.g. defence, are masked by their success through Ronaldo. Why can Rooney-Tevez work or how can we make Ade-RvP work?

    Gackt you don’t have to sigh on us. Nobody fails to understand anything here. We can understand things but disagree.

    Don’t let the defeatist attitude sink in. While we keep questioning some players’ fighting spirit, I just happen to think we need to reflect just as much.

  91. Ethan and Gackt

    This is where I do agree with you, I dont see Ade as the 1st Striker, I see him as the 2nd or even as an option B on the bench when he is out of form. Unfortunately we had no cover when he was out of form (every Striker gets it) so he has to start

    But it his not his fault he has been put in the that position, RVP was probably thought to be the numero uno but unfortunately injuries have meant that he has started less than 10 games all season.

    So given that, I honestly think Ade should be given credit for banking 19 Premiership goals. Sure Anelka or Torres would probably have had 29 playing in an Arsenal 11 but they dont play for Arsenal….Is that Ade’s fault?

    I am not sure about you Gackt, but I have read your comments Ethan going back to pre-season and come on both of us predicted a struggle to come 4th, I think we were right in saying that we did not strengthen enough but I think we were both wrong in estimating how much improvement some of the younger players would make.

    Dont lump all of the blame on the last 5 games on Ade as you could probably name 10 games where ade made the difference. We have been pretty unlucky on the injury front and didnt have the sufficient cover to cope with it

  92. gackt13

    your a genius ! we need more like you around here,
    however you would eventually go insane by the blind faith these guys have in arsene .. You know anyone can win the lottery once !

    But to win the lottery again the odds go up drastically .the smarter clubs assembled squads that can compete on all stages and all cups ! for a club of our stature we should be far better .. its frustrating !
    but the fans are just a bunch of blind middle of the road is good enough for me kinda guys !

    They complain about spending 20 mil for a player , yet the player arsene would pick would be worth
    far more than 20 mil after 1 season at the club !

    its like watching a granny play video poker .
    putting 10 pence in the slot machine .. UP the ANTE , UP THE REWARD !

    anyone who thinks ribery if we bought him for 17 million this season , wouldn’t be worth over 20 or 25 the next season is bananas .. they look at it like arsene doesn’t re-coupe the money on his transfer expenditure !

    he has hardly ever lost any money on players .. So why think spending money on quality is such voodoo ????
    Either that or you cant see what your manager aims to do when buying a player …

  93. ethan and gackt13 are damn wrong, you both are wrong and will always be. Our team has failed us in the last 5 games, i can give you that but you and ethan are wrong on ade and unfair. He will be there next year with a stronger partner, which will free him.

    He is defended more tightly now than at the start of the season, because defenders know if they give him the time and space, he will kill them.

    You can beat him all you want, I don’t think many view him as bad as you portray him to be.

    Don’t despair Patthegooner, these two will fight to no end against ade. No one is talking about what did hleb do today, anything? No nothing, zero, big O, but no one is attacking him, it’s ade. Why is it that our midfield can’t help with scoring? No one shot on goal today except poor RVP who is coming after 5 months out. No one say anything about that, it’s ade.

    stop pointing the finger at one, when most of the team didn’t do well. Chelsea actually made us look good, but not for long before our defense gave out on us and we crumpled. If you want to point out the deficiencies, you have to show them all not attack ade and leave the rest.

    F#cking M#rons

  94. Yeah attack AW now, you f#cking David Dein cheerleaders. Why don’t you wear skirts and go down on the field and show us your ass holes?

  95. While I think some of you guys’ points on Ade’s weaknesses are fair enough, it’s a bit lazy to blame everything on him while ignoring other deficiencies in the team.

    e.g. I put my hand up to say I think it’s time to either make sure Eboue learns from his disciplinary mistakes (costly btw) or call it a day.

    Hleb had an off day. He hasn’t performed well on the left side since we (kind of) went back to 4-4-2. I’m with Gunn with the Wind on this, but I say we should cut him some slack because a dip of form is bound to happen if a player has no break. And on the ice-cream-gate thing, I’m also ready to give him the benefit of the doubt, until proven guilty.

    Ref had a bad game too; his wrong decisions went both ways.

    A game is a function of many many things. Why choose to blame it on Ade alone?

  96. Yes but pat if you noticed a short 3 months ago , i was being abused for even suggesting we needed a world class striker .. now everyone agrees..

    meaning surely arsene knows !

    in all honesty to really be dominate we need a hell of a lot more quality players to live up to ac milan – barca – man U etc … we lose 2 or 3 players to injury and we arnt even competitive !

    and for a club with a new ground – over 60000 seats , sky rocketing prices , state of the art facilities , this supposed war chest i find it a cop- out ! wave the money and good players will come

  97. lou

    its a consensus over time , i didnt wake up one morning and say i think he’s crap .. it became more apparent over time that he gave up possession far more than any other player , then he added the offsides to his game ..he wont pass
    and now he hasn’t scored in god knows how long ..
    its been over 5 or 6 months to base that opinion .

    And like ive said before i don’t blame him i blame wenger for selecting him , not resting him ! Not buying a replacement or an additional player in the transfer window …
    I blame these fans here for sticking up for him when we should group together and say this performance week after week isn’t acceptable .

    sure but even eboue can pass , and keep possession , and hleb ..
    possession = chances
    chances = goals
    goals = 3 points !!

  98. Todays game summed up why we are short for winning the title

    Over elaborate technical football that gives great possession stats but lacks incision on the flanks and a ruthless cutting edge

    lack of a striker with burning pace

    Vulnerability at set pieces and corners

    Vulnerability to route one high balls

    We played our pretty patterns until we hit their 18 yard line. Then it was snuffed by that wily old pensioner makele, it was sent long to Drogba who terrorised our front two all day. Wham bam thank you mam

    Wenger needs to inject more pace and steel into this side. It was obvious to any intelligent Arsenal fan from the start of the season. UTD will beat us at OT with a similar style – going long to Rooney. We have nobody capable of similar

    We saw today that ADE isn’t even a poor mans Drogba. Worth perservering with tough – he has improved immensely.

    I think we all agree he must keep Flamini – but I fear the worst and have done since it counted down to the last 6 months of his contract

    The title was lost at Birmigham – Gallas knew it, those of us who have seen our title years also secretly knew it. It halted momemtum. Momentum begets momentum. If we had held on, would have won our next game……..

    So, the question is …… are we happy to watch “total football” and win no trophies? Has wenger lost it and become a self indulgent old fool or is he plotting the changes that will return us to being super competitive and super fast?

  99. 3 Months ago we had Eduardo fit but I was still with you at the time for thinking another Striker would not go a miss

    as for live up to AC Milan, remember we just beat them and they currently lie 5th in their league.

    I cant argue with you that we could do with 2-3 more class experienced players, especially on the wide areas, but I do disagree that it is all Ade’s fault

    as for the new ground, 60k seats etc, that means nothing when the likes of Chelsea have a bottomless money pit.

  100. Gunn_With_The Wind

    you lost
    your an idiot !
    he has cost us points by the type of faith you have in him ..
    we are 3rd now ..
    we have to rely on toure’s header or sagna for goals!

    grow a set and admit you were wrong !

    yes maybe next year he will be better but it aint f###### helping us now is it !

    like i said i only look at one season at a time !!
    if ade kept possession can score in a good ratio of chances id like him like i like any other player on our team !

    he is not god enough currently !
    what cant you understand ????
    or do you just hate to be wrong ?

  101. We have great strikers stupid, one was injured for 5 months, the other got scathed by a player who can compete with you for the “most stupid person” trophy. Can’t you get it? Your thick skull nothing comes through it?

  102. pat
    i dont think its all ade’s fault i mainly blame arsene
    for the faith he had in him !
    He cannot do the fundamentals like pass and 1st touch , when you have all the creative players on our team supplying him chance after chance and he fails
    im not sure who else your supposed to blame !
    ????

    you read what he said in the press 2 or 3 days ago about cesc -flamini suppling him chances when he waves his hands ?
    maybe almunia needs to score more then :) ?
    the defenders are defending
    the midfield is giving chances to him !
    who is responsible for getting our goals ?

  103. freak who uses my name !

    we have 1 great striker ! RVP- coming back
    dudu- the jury is still out on !
    and ade given his chances !!!!and lack of team play, possession turn overs , off sides , lack of passing to his strike partner , is more of a liability than good currently !

    sorry the only stupid #u## is you !
    Your thick skull even less than nothing comes through it!

  104. Honestly Ethan

    I sometimes wonder whether you secretly hope Arsenal will lose just to give you some sort of lordly platform on this blog, unfortunately most of us think you are a moron and maybe your posts would be better appreciated on gunnerblog.

    Two posts ago in reply to Lou you said you didn’t blame Ade yet on the 8:42 post suddenly it is him again

    How can you not see good in the teams top goal scorer, he cant be that bad to be 3rd in the premiership goal scoring charts,

    where is the criticism of Hleb, or RVP or Eboue today, they were also quiet.

  105. you are so stupid , even G4E has ran and hid !
    read everyones comments on here they all agree !
    our strikers suck !!

    basically !

    RVP can be forgiven as his strike partner never passes him the ball !

    EXPERIENCE is missing from the squad !
    I want better for AFC and so should you !!!

    how hard is that to understand ????

  106. Ethan

    Maybe Arsene did not think that RVP and Eduardo would be side-lined so much, and that given the circumstances, 19 goals for a Striker in Ade’s mould is not a bad return.

    He is probably in the same mould as Drogba (10) Crouch (2) or Heskey (2),

    Just want some credit for the guy, sure he can be frustrating but given the situation I think his return is already 10 goals above what I thought he would get

    The real issue is as a club we did not cater for the injuries and did not have the strenght in depth to cover Rosicky, RVP, Eduardo and Theo

  107. Agree with ur analysis AlanG. AW just has to be more flexible. He just has to accept he needs a larger squad to reduce wear & tear.

  108. We can’t win any trophy unless we get English ‘teeth’ in the team. The foreign players don’t have the fight needed for the club. Ade, Eboue, Hleb were all strolling on the field at certain points in the game no fight, didn’t seem to care.

    Terry, Lampard and Cole provide the drive for the team. Who do we rely on? This year we’ve been fielding XI all foreigners and think we’ll have the fight to win the title?

    Anytime we won trophy, there were English backbone and we don’t have now. We have to buy some English players next season otherwise it’ll be the same old story in recent times. No trophies.

  109. Howard how can you sat the english players at chelsea provided the drive when all they did was kick it to Drogba. He was the player who won the game and worked hard for their win and he is not english.

  110. *say

  111. On the subject of english players (which you always refer to), who would you suggest we buy?

  112. Hahaha, do you really think I would run and hide from a stupid idiot like you Ethan? You’re single cell brain human being as I called you three months ago and you prove day in and day out that you will always be.

    I left because I’m gutted my team lost after a good season, while you are here gloating about how stupid you are.

    Enjoy our defeat as much as you can Ethan, you may never get the chance again for awhile. Keep your hopes up about spending money and buying crappy star players, but you will only get it on your Nintendo. You are looking for the easy way out, which proves you have no stomach for thinking. Buying players is the easy way out. (I know you didn’t get it).

  113. You have no understanding of anything, last year when the squad was still relatively young and inexperienced, we started the season slow and we didn’t have confidence in ourselves, as time went by we finished strong and we got to 4th easily.

    This year we started strong, with a lot of confidence but were hampered by injuries and it had it’s effect on us at a crucial time of the season, now we are finishing slow.

    With minimum reinforcements Vela and maybe one more player, if any and a full squad with minor injuries and another year of a learning experience we will be much better.

    Quit telling us we are bad, the players we have are good enough and better than many in the league and that includes Adebayor.

    G4E

  114. Hey no need to call each other names or trade insults. YW’s site deserves better. And you guys are decent people. And we fellow Gooners are together in this after all.

  115. Sorry Lou, I don’t think we are all together in this.

    Trying to stand on the moral high ground doesn’t work with some people. Idiot and stupid are like terms of endearment for the likes of Ethan.

  116. So, in conclusion, it’s Adebayor’s fault and we need to spend around 16 million on an Englishman like Bent, who can’t get into Spurs team. Got it.

    Do you think we nned a bit of English bite in midfield too? How about that nice boy Barton?

    Two reasons we’ve lost it. One forward scoring 20 goals a season will not win the title. RVP out for five f***ing months playing for Holland, and Eduardo’s injury. Secondly, a lack of leadership at Birmingham. I defended him at the time but Gallas has let us down since.

  117. I think the only thing we can all agree with is that we are disappointed with the result.I dont think Arsenal played particularly badly. We still created many chances but just werent clinical in the final third. The game turned on its head when Sagna was subbed. The team lost its shape and we were undone by two long punts up the field one of which was offside.

    The facts are:

    1.Arsenal have been improving every season and despite our recent dip in form we have accounted for ourselves well leading the league for 2 /3rds of the season with a smaller squad.We r only 6 points behind the leaders for crying out loud nobody has died. And this in our first season of making a serious but unexpected title challenge!
    2.Man U had to wait 4 years to win the Premier League Title in 2006/7 season coming 3rd in 2003/4 which Arsenal won, 3rd in 2004/5 which Chelsea won, 2nd in 2005/6 won by Chelsea, finally winning in 2006/7.
    3.If strength and depth was such a factor and Man U n Chelsea had such a big squad then they would be chasing the quadruple or treble wouldnt they. Strength in depth is a false economy!
    4. We will still be supporting Arsenal if they dont win anything next season
    5. Eduardo n RVP are our most clinical finishers had they both been fit and firing the rest of the Premiership be warned. Ade has depitised well.
    6. Ade is not TH14, Ronaldo or Ronaldinho. If Ade had passed to Bentdner at Brum n Bentdnere had missed we would still be slating him.
    7.If you cannot appreciate Arsenals style of football or Arsene’s philosophy then support a team whose style appeals to you.
    8. The game at OT was swung buy the referee being influenced by Fergies rants in the week about player dissent n they slaughtered a 10 man team after Wes Brown scored a goal he knew nothing about. The momentum is currently with them.

  118. Why can’t you guys see the clearer picture?

    1> Arsenal has the most expensive tickets to their games therefore we really shouldn’t just be contented with just hanging out around in the 2nd, 3rd or 4th in the EPL and happy with our youngsters making it to the FA or League cup semi-finals each season, or the fact we made it at least to the quarterfinals of the CL. The fact is the hard times when we were trying to get Emirates built up where we were financially short is already over and we should really get some quality players instead of Wenger always buying young players with “potential” and hope and pray they make it – are we now only a club who is obssessed with keeping the balance in the blue and being the most “financially healthy” top club in Europe?

    2> The Ade debate has gone on long enough why can’t you guys see for the fact that Ade is detrimental to our team’s attack? Why still think 19 goals in the EPL is good return? Why can’t Bendtner or Walcott do well whenever they start? Simple. They always start games having to partner with Ade. With the sort of player like Ade how are you supposed to perform playing beside him? He makes all your passes look bad because of his poor control, poor positional and lack of awareness to make penetrative runs. He makes all your runs look silly and mistimed because of his terrible passing. Sometimes you penetrated, pass the ball to him, makes a run into the box or open space hoping he will pass it back to you, and there he goes again, passing it back to the midfield after holding the ball for a few seconds. The midfiled is always passing him the ball because he is the “MAIN STRIKER WITH 19 (at least half of them were fluke, IMO) GOALS IN THE EPL THIS SEASON” HOW THE F*CK ARE THEY SUPPOSED TO PERFORM WITH HIM AS THE STRIKE PARTNER?!?!?

    3> Referees ALWAYS makes overall decisions that favours our opponents in the EPL in the games. People tackles us unfairly or hard and it’s LEGAL. We make even the slightest hard but fair challenge and we get punished. Just see how many times Hleb is tackled unfairly every game and seriously I can’t imagine why Hleb would continue to play in a shitty league like EPL. Teams like Chelsea and Man Utd (through big mouthed Fergie) always cheating their way to win, while we get shortchanged for playing pretty and fair football. You can’t blame some of our players (excluding Eboue) for making the odd poor or deliberate bad tackle. A person can only handle so much of unfair treatment before he explodes and just want to “give it to them”.

  119. For an unbiased view http://daverossfootball.wordpress.com/2008/03/23/arsenal-its-time-to-splash-the-cash/

  120. jamie

    do you think arsene would ever buy an english player ? yet alone a english striker .. no he would go Brazilian or dutch or French ! and get one of quality ! to partner RVP next year !!!
    listening to fools like you weve blown this season
    AGAIN! We where always on the back foot last night if your honest with yourself !

    gackt13 makes more than valid points !
    stop defending the un-defend able , or simply
    start picketing for better players like us !
    If the fans show disapproval , like the liverpool fans did for raffa’s rotation policy we might get somewhere, sure our squad isnt useless , but can anyone say when all our promising youth will hit there straps ? and until then we will always fall short ! And the answer isnt to support another club ! And how can they hit there straps like bendtner walcott denilson senderos when they get under 10 games a season !
    or 10 minutes here and there !
    they just stagnate until some other club buys them and plays them !

    Its rather simple a club like us with the backing we have should have a great 1st 11 , plus 4 or 5 great subs.. world class even !

  121. im disappointed at th result, but i cant belive how people say arsenal is done in the race and tht chelsea is still in it.

  122. I think Arsene Wenger is losing it with his band of foreign non-performers. All the average foreign players not pulling their weight should be thrown out.

    How can we have Adebayor as the leading striker when he can’t even shoot at goal behind the 18 yards line? Arsene Wenger has made Adebayor irreplaceable head of Arsenal’s attack, arrogant, selfish, poor passer of the ball. A man wanting to immitate TH14 minus his skills. With all his faults, TH14 was not selfish and lazy like the collosus masquerading as the top striker in the league without the abilities to go with it. Robbie Keane is even provng to be a better striker than him.

    Arsene’s subs were poor in the Chelsea game. Why Diaby instead of Song when we needed to strengthen the midfield? Song could have added additional defensive shield to the midfield but he went in for a player (Diaby), physically weak and gives away balls in the mdfield. Diaby’s selection to replace Flamini was wierd at a time when Hleb was giving our possession very often. He just wanted to give Diaby a game.

    We need Agbonlahor type of players in the team; with pace and strength.

    When you have a manager whose loyalty to players are more important than the success of the club then we have a problem. Hear him. ‘ If I bring in a new player, what message do I send to my current players?’ So are the players careers more important than Arsenal as a club?

    The Board provided enough money to bring in players but Arsene didn’t use it because he wanted to protect his bunch of average foreign players in the club.

    Arsene has ignored or missed many players including Drogba, Torres, Ronaldo, Eto, Ibrahimovich et. His mantra; ‘I nearly signed him’ we’ve heard that often at press conferences.

    We need some new blood of players in the team preferably English. Agbonlahor (attack), Mark Noble (midfield) and Curtis Davies (Defence). These English players will develop into top players and give us the English teeth that we need. We’ll then get rid of Djourou, Eboue, Giberto and Diaby or Denilson can leave.

    Its a disgrace that after leading the league with 5 points with few matches to go we might be struggling to qualify for the champions league next season.

    We need English main stay in the team or else we can’t win any major throphy again as the FA officials, pressmen and the public will continue to do everything to prevent us from succeeding. Reason being that if we succeed, other clubs will follow suit and eventually begin the demise of the England national team; this is one fact Arsene is not catching and thus continue to fill the club with foreign players, most of them average.

    It’s a fact that there’s anti-Arsenal feelings up there working tirelesly to derail whatever we do just because Arsene don’t want to sign equally good English players. English players who’re better than Eboue and his likes.

    We’ve always had English players in the team when we won major throphies. This summer gives us an opportunities to move on some of the players and bring in English players.

  123. don’t waste your time howard gckt13! people on this blog are living in la la land and worship wenger even when he’s not wining anything

    until wenger does what i said, we will fight for 4th and 5th next season.

    were the only voices of reason on this blog.

  124. ARSENE WENGER slated his defence after a horror show at Stamford Bridge.

    The Gunners boss watched his side slump to their worst league run in NINE years.

    And Wenger blamed the Chelsea defeat on William Gallas and Kolo Toure.

    Wenger said: “It was a game we should have won but we paid for some lapses in concentration. It is difficult to swallow because we played quite well and were in control of the game.

    “What was left to Chelsea was to play long balls and we did not deal well enough with it.

    “The spirit was right and the mentality was fantastic. But we have some defensive problems which we need to sort out.”

  125. The above quote from Wenger proves my points on Gallas and defence I made at 6:04, 6:42, and Gunn_with_the_wind at 8:20.

    Read those comments Ethan with your groupies and learn about reading the game.

    Our defense let us down in this game, not our midfield and not our attack or Ade.

  126. Gunner4Ever

    So who does Arsene blame, the defenders? All summer and January, some of us proposed that we needed a CB but he chose to stay with his foreign band; Senderos, Djourou and Gallas instead of going for a young up and coming CB with power and pace.

    Some of us suggested Richards at City or Curtis Davies then at West Brom and now look at Curtis’s development at Aston Villa. Richards could’ve also developed as a big player for us. For experience I suggested Woodgate but he chose to retain what he had and now look. Senderos would’ve even been worse if he had played in the Chelsea game.

    Again some of us suggested a striker as we saw the weakness of Adebayor as a lead striker and the fact that we can’t keep RvP playing week in week out because of his injuries problem.

    All our pleadings fell on deaf years and we were called names here and insulted for daring to express our views regarding our own club. Now we’re back to square one after blowing the opportunity to lift the tittle after a couple of years in the wilderness.

    Instead of looking for somebody real to fill in the gap left by Pires to replace the goals drought in midfield he went in for Rosicky, a player who is injury prone and never played full season at Stuttgart. Rosicky is reportedly incapable of playing 4 matches without injuries, a fact which escaped stubborn Arsene Wenger.

    Arsene Wenger has lost it and over the years security on his job has made him recalcitrant and unwilling to listen to the pleas of fans and other stakeholders.

    Arsenal has money now that can bring in a top striker

    We need a stronger, pacy striker. We also need a powerful, taller and pacy CB in the mould of Sole Campbell.

    If Adebayor has taken his oppotunities like hitting the ball harder on two occassions that he had chances, it could’ve been a different story. All in my life I’ve not seen an attacker whose first reaction upon receiving a pass is to bring the ball back. none of the top strikers in the EPL has a poor touch like Adebayor.

    We need a better striker to lead Arsenal’s attack.

  127. Howard, you always take it form a nationalist point of view. I commend you for loving England so much, but the fact still remains the same that English players are over priced and over hyped.

    Don’t forget the Attacker that beat us today was not an English man, it was Drogba from Ivory Coast, not even from Europe.

    I don’t believe we are doing so bad, no one, I repeat no one including me was expecting us to do this good this season. We were let down by a few things coming together at bad timing. I said earlier with a little bit of enforcements, like Vela and maybe one other player we will be much better. We do not have any width on the right or the left, Vela can help with that. That’s our main problem, we are so predictable now and we have fallen into the same problem we had with TH14. It’s always clear that everyone wants to get the ball to Ade and opponents know what they need to do, just crowd him out, 9 times out of 10 he will lose the ball.

    I said it here and I will say it again, he’s in no way like a TH14, and he has dropped in form, you can not blame it all on one player and wipe him out because he dropped in form?

    Just as Wenger and me blaming Gallas for today, but I would be unfair to blame the whole season on him. He had his good games and bad games, just like Ade, and pretty much every one in the team. In a title winning season, you want all your main players injury free and performing good consistently, we didn’t have that.

    Ease up people and be realistic, buy buy buy
    is not always the solution, having a 100 players in a squad doesn’t mean you will be successful. Sometimes having more is less productive. It’s like having a 100 students in a 40 student capacity class.

  128. Gunner4Ever

    Yes Drogba is from the Ivory Coast but chelsea team has its bedrock in Terry, Lampard and Joe Cole.

    Where is the starting blocks of Arsenal now? We had Campbell, Cole, Palour, Adams, Keown, Dixon etc. Where are the English base of the team that we need before we let the other pieces fall into place?

    Arsene sells off any English player that seems to be maturing and brings in foreigners who’re no better than those he sells. Arsene is also not prepared to buy at least two good players from the EPl so we’ll continue to be cheated by the FA and its officials, the Press and others who are working hard to pull Arsenal down because we lack English players.

    We can’t win anything with foreign XI as the FA will make sure it doesn’t happen. Its a fact.

    Let’s strengthen the team with Agbonlahor and Richards.

    No Arsenal team has won anything without English players so do any of the big 4.

  129. the last couple of weeks have been disappointing.
    I believe our squad is not as strong as manure or chelski.
    One of our problems has been injuries(rvp,rosicky,eduardo). also i dont hink we are strong down the flanks(hleb apart ) rosicky is always injured and as for Eboue is he really up to the job?
    also last the last week arsenal players have been given quite a few interviews – i’ve not heard any manu players give any.these players should just concentrate on their game.
    Arsene’s got £70m – its time to strengthen the squad!

  130. Let’s see what happens Howard.

    Adding the FA to injuries, and referees makes our foreigners look like heroes to overcome all that and be even in the top four.

    If this FA conspiracy theory against Arsenal foreigners is true, my respect for any thing English Football would diminish to zero.

  131. Gunner4Ever

    Well, now you know. I’m surprised you don’t know that the whole English system is against us; and that its mainly because of our ill advised ‘go foreign’ to buy policy even at the academy level. Get ready to read how the papers gloat this morning about our defeat.

    United also buy foreign infact all the clubs do but most times these teams have a local base and then buy foreign players to pluck the holes.

    In th case of Arsenal however, its all foreign ending up with playing week in week out with foreign XI as well as having a chunk of foreign players even at the academy level, why? Suprisingly however, a lot of these players are craps brought in while their equal level English players are sold.

    No wonder, we’re being persecuted by the FA, match officials, the Press and rival fans. The perception of sports administrators in England now is that if Arsenal is not checked it will destroy the fabric of the development of the English game and Arsenal’s success will make other clubs copy same.

    The fact also remain that we haven’t won anything with a foreign base and I don’t think we’ll ever do unless Arsene change his policy. Since he joined the club the number of English players have dwindled till reaching this level where we virtually have no English player in the starting XI.

    Arsene has lost the plot; may be its time for him to change his damaging policy or move on to France. We’ll greatly thank him for all that he’s done for the club or even name Emirates after him. Then let’s see if he can implement the same policy in France and be successful there.

  132. the penis head who again used my name
    at

    By: ethan_goon on March 24, 2008
    at 4:43 am

    wasnt me !
    if you keep doing this and yogi does nothing about it
    then ill just state the time of the false statement ..
    you are pathetic .. you know that dont you !

    for all who do read my comment be aware that some pratt gets his kicks in sabotaging my blogs.

  133. How can you blame the defense G4E when one of them scored the only goal ???

    your a total spoon ! Im gonna make it short and sweet , how many goals has ade scored since we started drawing ??? big fat zero !!!!

    how many points have we droped NOW 11 !

    we’ve relied on our defenders in the last 2 games to score for us !!!
    because our front line cant !
    and ade doesn’t pass to RVP so he wont be any use either !!!

    USE YOUR BRAIN !

    you can blame gallas for not marking drogba !
    but a top class player will always test defenses !
    ITS OUR JOB TO SCORE MORE THAN THEM !

    or do i have to say it a 5th time ???

  134. we did not lose the title race based on last nights results , we lost because of the 4 draws to beatable teams , when we couldnt score ! it was ade who let us down in those matches as he is our clubs top scorer and cant score ! It was because of this that yesterdays game was a MUST WIN game.

    you cant deny the facts your just such loosers for even suggesting that we lost the title race based on yesterdays defense !

    chevski the last time they played an opponent scored 4 goals ! we knew we had to score more than them and we didnt ! sagna and toure supplied goals in the last 2 games , so to suggest the defense failed is a totally ridiculous statement , they kept us in it ! due to our striker failure !


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