Emmanuel Adebayor has spoken of how the squad is like a family to him,
We are all the same generation. We all understand each other well, we know what we need to do
He took time to praise his little brother, Cesc,
Here everyone know about the clairvoyance of Cesc Fabregas. He sees the game so clearly, better than anyone. I don’t even need to talk to him for him to know where I am – same with Flamini, I don’t need to ask. They know I like to make runs and to receive the ball deep so we don’t need to talk, all I need to do is call and the ball arrives
It has been a little awry recently with tiredness taking its toll on form. Sunday is the perfect chance to rectify that and being a big game, I would be surprised if the team did not put in a big performance.
And the Arsenal squad are like a family. Publicly united but in-fighting breaking out here and there. Did I say ‘in-fighting’? Well, more disaffection.
Chief malcontent is Alex Hleb, reportedly at the centre of a ‘tapping up’ storm with Arsene wanting to involve UEFA amid claims that, as of yet are unsubstantiated, Internazionale were testing the water over a possible transfer with the player.
Whilst their involvement is not yet proven, it would be naïve to believe that he walked out of the team hotel to meet with Claudio Vigorelli to discuss the game ahead over a Tutti Frutti. The Guardian reports that they went to Inter’s offices in Milan that might well be an Ice Cream bar given the serious drop in their revenues over recent seasons. Somehow, though I doubt it.
The incident begs several questions. Firstly, is Hleb unhappy at the club, unsettled enough to seek a move? Rumours have abounded that he will be the subject of a bid from Barcelona in the summer for months. The player has towed the ‘company line’ about togetherness and belief in the squad. If it is a case of ‘white man speaks with forked tongue’, he has let his colleagues down badly. Hleb though cannot win; the speculation has cast considerable doubt about his performances in some quarters. Whilst his form since Christmas has not been as consistent as the opening three months of the season, he is not alone in that respect. Arguably, all of the squad have been inconsistent otherwise; there would not have been four consecutive Premier League draws.
The second issue I have is as to why he was allowed to leave the hotel on the night before an important European tie. Surely, there would have been orders to rest and relax not go out on the town. On the other hand, did he sneak out? For me though, the telling point is that Arsene has obviously not believed Hleb’s version of events otherwise he would not be considering reporting Internazionale. This is a dangerous precedent. The Frenchman works on treating the players like adults, irrespective of age. However, he has shown in the past that he is not slow to relegate players to ‘extras’ if they betray that trust.
Away from their relationship and Hleb’s actions, although inextricably linked to it, I find the reactions to be extreme. Condemnation has been swift with his lack of goals being a previously ignored sore point, now surfacing in the wish for him to sling his hook. It indicates to me that the reservations held over his performances have not been universally won over by his form this season. Were he to leave, it would be a big hole for the team to fill although I have no doubt that Arsene would fill it. The interesting aspect though has been the comparison to the reactions that greeted Cesc’s admission that he met with officials of Real Madrid last summer. There was a muted criticism of him but almost to a man, Real were seen as the villains. Not much different to Hleb’s outing; the difference in the popularity of the players though is marked.
The truth will never come out. Arsene will condemn, Inter deny and Hleb remain silent. If he leaves, it is a case of ‘I told you so’; if he stays, it will take some time for him to be trusted totally by the support. Isn’t it interesting though that this story emerges in the lead up to the Chelsea game where the comparisons are there to be made with Ashley Cole. Or am I being overly cynical?
As if that was not enough, the outside influence disrupting the serenity that previously cast its shadow over The Emirates rears his ugly head in another branch of the family. Abou Diaby’s agent, Roger Boli, has come out and said that his client’s future is not at The Emirates,
He’s a super player. For now he is learning under Arsene Wenger, but in two years he can make the leap to a major Italian team
Two observations; firstly is he speaking with his client’s approval? Probably. Secondly, it raises an interesting point about Arsenal’s standing in the World game, or at least the perception of it. The inference is that The Emirates is almost a primary school, a building block en route to the secondary school that is the rest of the former G14. More accurately though, it signifies the Agents perception of the club because they will not play his client in his favoured position or enough money, whichever is his current agenda. I can almost read the reactions to Boli’s comments though…
‘til Tomorrow.























Hey Yogi,
I sent you an e-mail earlier, let me know your thoughts!
Great post.
Doesn’t it annoy you that we sign players who take 3 years to bed in, then they have one great year and the rumours begin.
Hleb should be made to stay, we’re not G14’s feeder club.
Summer will be fun. Wait for Adebayor to become a transfer issue… you can guarantee that.
Stanley Milgrim experiments on the box… could be an interesting doco.
Night.
By: Pedro on March 20, 2008
at 12:12 am
If you base your theory on information gleaned directly from the mainstream media, newspapers in particular, that information itself is of questionable value. What you are doing here is legitimising speculation by speculating further – hardly very useful or productive. How did the journalist get hold of this story? Was he/she there on the spot with Hleb – I doubt it. FFS … get real, these things are trivia invented by the hacks to sell paper.
By: El Tommo on March 20, 2008
at 12:48 am
I tried hard not to comment on those articles hoping they were just paper gossip which rears its ugly head when ever we seem to faced with another hill to climb; but they wont go away. If its true then we will have to face the fact and move on, there is no loyalty these days except to money and that is a fact of life. Another reason for Hleb to be going is the fact that he is kicked off the park most weeks, and wonders if the next kick will put him in the same position as Dudu. I notice last night Cashy was showing his team mates how much he has learn t from his captain Terry. Time will tell just hope we can take Chelsea apart.
By: Old Timer on March 20, 2008
at 12:53 am
From now I hope gunner fans monitor the performance of match officials.A good goal was disallowed agaginst Boro.
Don’t be surprised goals could be ruled offside by the linesman.Furthermore expect penalties against Arsenal when Arsenal are going to win the match/title.
The latest that the FA have decided not to take further action against Taylor reinforces my belief there are people out to stop Arsenal winning the title.
By: Mohd Hisham on March 20, 2008
at 1:29 am
What can you say to this result? Spurs 4-4 Chelsea?
I can recall this “hockey score” comment for you guys.
—————————-
Sunday, 14 November, 2004, 10:25 GMT
Mourinho takes swipe at Arsenal
Chelsea manager Jose Mourinho has launched a scathing attack on title rivals Arsenal by claiming their defenders are a “disgrace”.
Referring to Arsenal’s 5-4 win over Spurs, Mourinho said: “Five-four is a hockey score, not a football score.
“In a three-against-three training match, if the score reaches 5-4 I send the players back to the dressing rooms as they are not defending properly.
“So to get a result like that in a game of 11 against 11 is disgraceful.”
By: Luke on March 20, 2008
at 1:30 am
Boli isn’t Diaby’s agent. He came out and confirmed that to Setanta today.
Link here: http://sport.setanta.com/en/Sport/News/Football/2008/03/19/Premier-League-Boli-exclusive-on-Diaby-/
so that story was a fabrication. the english media is worthless.
By: frank on March 20, 2008
at 2:17 am
I think ade is guilty as charged
same with Flamini, I don’t need to ask. They know I like to make runs and to receive the ball deep so we don’t need to talk, all I need to do is call and the ball arrives
This goes along way to proving my point that the midfield are feeding the front line .. So people who think our midfield are not doing there job , it seems there job is to feed our misguided strikers, then he looses possession or mistimes his runs and we turn the ball over ..
Im not harping on about ade anymore ..
actions speak louder than words ..
All the choir of ade fans have been held to silence
point proven for me .. and on that note SPURS are legends !
took 2 points off chevski,avram is p*ssed and if we can take a further 3 off them on the weekend , id say it will be a 2 horse race .. In some regards its scary , as the chev’s will come at us harder due to there disappointment of last night ..
Also i think it proves that spurs are an ‘up and coming team’ and could really upset a few teams next year , also i owe 2 of my spud buddies a round of drinks at the closest go go bar for a stupid bet i made with them . Thank god they didnt take all 3 points or it would cost me a fortune . But it proves to a corn chip and people who will be blind4ever , that some certain peoples football acumen is above theres in spotting a talented team , spurs are still growing like ade …and under ramos they will be a scary force next season . they have done well against chevski this season and proves there worth as a good footballing club for the future . ARE YOU READING THIS DARREN ? Mc’ER ? i consider my bet paid off !
By: ethan_goon on March 20, 2008
at 2:22 am
Relax YW! There’s so much crap in the press that we can’t read too much into them sometimes. And they also say “reportedly” without a proper source, no Arsene quote when they say he’ll “file a complaint” either.
Only watched the last 20 mins of the Spurs-Chelsea game. Thriller. Then I did catch some highlights, in which Essien’s goal seemed offside to me. Not sure there. What would people say about the refs for whom the FA are demanding respect now? And what would they say about Cashley’s 2-footed challenge on Hutton? Anyway, glad we can go to SB still with a 2-point gap in between. And they conceded 4 goals, Keane’s late goal must have shocked them too. They should also be tired. Great!
By: Lou on March 20, 2008
at 2:43 am
I heart Arsenal
By: Nick Olds on March 20, 2008
at 2:48 am
Great piece. Though the press is sketchy at best, thorough analysis is always appreciated. This is not something that was made up. Hleb really met with someone, and Arsene really is angry.
On the Adebayor debate, I feel he is a great striker, he just lacks intelligence. Hes an erratic striker, thats both his biggest strength and weakness. He can get quite frustrating at times. But he is still a great striker.
By: Damien on March 20, 2008
at 4:27 am
damien
being erratic is hardly what we need right now .. the
striker we require when options are so limited currently is CONSISTENT ! and more importantly goals in the back of the net ..
By: ethan_goon on March 20, 2008
at 5:16 am
considering ronaldo’s form at the moment…it will take helluva effort from us to win at old trafford….
i really fancy liverpool against manu…coz i feel man u never had the kind of striking threat as torres till now….and gerrard will be on the sccore sheet….hart is making a name for himself at this point..hope his run of brilliant saves ends on 23rd.
As for our form…i really am trying to find out how we can get back to the title race but cant c it happening till we win at chelsea and in a commanding manner at tht…or else…a last minute winner wud soar the confidence…..which is very very little at the moment.
Spurs only problem lies at the back…i think they can do with a better goal keeper and zamora is crap.
By: gooooooooner on March 20, 2008
at 5:56 am
Lou
that challenge on hutton by cole was reminiscent of dudu’s injury minus the carnage , it was a red in todays current refereeing climate … He is a lucky puppy, and we are now blessed with him making his appearance against us on Sunday .. He better not try that sort of bollocks with us . !
By: ethan_goon on March 20, 2008
at 6:23 am
El Tommo:
You make very valid points.
YW:
I’m sorry but you are somewhat adding to the problem. Inter have denied the accusations so we should not fuel it anymore. Especially as our fans and most fans for that matter, are fickle. And will most certainly vent their anger on Hleb when no facts have been tendered.
The same can be said by the Diaby claim.
By: william on March 20, 2008
at 6:23 am
Damien:
“On the Adebayor debate, I feel he is a great striker, he just lacks intelligence.”
I suppose you will say, Ronaldo, Torres and Tevez do not lack intelligence!
Why so many insults for a player that play for the club you support.
Would you compare your kid to someone else’s?
NO you will not and should not. He is you kid no matter what.
By: william on March 20, 2008
at 6:26 am
Well, I managed to be reasonable for one day….now my sh^t a$$ mouth has the runs again. So if G4E or Passenal or any one thought that I really can be of use….forget about it.
Here is my story. since I was so behind my age (retarded) Doctors did a lot of scans on my brain and finally concluded that it’s of no use to me, so they removed it to make room for more sh^t. Now, I’m full of it….Sh^t that is.
So if you guys had any hope of me saying something useful….I hope that you can take it from my doctors and understand that I have nothing but sh^t. Hence, my name now is ‘Monkey A&& Ethan the Sh^t Head’.
By: Monkey_A&&_Ethan_is_back on March 20, 2008
at 7:47 am
I’m disappointed that you chose to add fuel to this fire when there is no real substance to the story. Arsene has said nothing so far so I would wait and see. The media have their own agenda and the timing of these revelations is highly suspect to me. Also as another poster pointed out Boli is neither Diaby’s agent, nor did he say those things. Both of these stories have emanated from Italy as they want our players. This is just round one in the campaign to destabilise the player by creating doubt about their future and putting a wedge between them and the fans.
Ethan, once again you live down to my expectations. Your response had nothing to do with YW’s post but somehow you manage to twist it towards Ade lacking intelligence. But you would know all about intelligence wouldn’t you?
By: Passenal on March 20, 2008
at 7:48 am
Spuds up and coming my arse Monkey_A&&_Ethan (As you so proudly call yourself)
Read Luke’s post. Although 4-4 is a good result for us, it doesn’t mean that Spuds are up and coming…it sounds like both teams forgot about defending…CheV$ki of course wanted the 3 points to be in a better position when they face us and they let 4 in in the process. On the other hand, yet again the Spuds failed to capitalize on it and they managed a point…They still have a very long road from 10th or 11th in the league in March, to 5th in the league next march….so quit braging about your up and coming team….Your name should be “blind_A&&_Ethan the Spud”.
By: Up_Ur_A$$_Ethan on March 20, 2008
at 8:02 am
Or…
“Blind_A$$_Ethan the Spud Head”
Which ever you prefer?
By: Up_Ur_A$$_Ethan on March 20, 2008
at 8:10 am
pas
i live down to your expectations ?
yes well put …i didnt know i was down that low !
yes ive made a point that ade knows without speaking that he expects the ball from our midfield !
and we’ve all seen recently what he does with it !
People are making statements that our midfield is lacking in scoring goals , they cant pass to the strikers and score as well !?
are you as retarded as the looser who hasnt got the bacon to abuse me using his real nickname ?
or are you just fragile ?
also yogi does have a valid point arsene NEVER comes out and makes statements this teste if there isnt some substance to the hleb debarkle .
do you remember cashley cole ?
arsene uses phrases like ‘i didnt see that’ , or ‘my vision was obscured’ ! deny deny deny ..
So for arsene to make a statement there must be something in the kettle !? or are you that naive ?
By: ethan_goon on March 20, 2008
at 9:04 am
Hleb has done nothing wrong and by all accounts, he’s very happy at Arsenal. If a player is happy, it doesn’t really matter who he meets. Hleb met those Hamburg people, it didn’t mean anything, he wasn’t going back there. How are Inter going to buy him off us?, it’s a silly story. The only problem is the supporters dislike of Hleb, with this turning him into the devil. Well done for pointing out the comparison with Cesc Yogi.
The fans need to start accepting and understanding that players will find out what they can get from other teams, not necessarily to join those other teams, but to know their worth. It doesn’t mean football has gone to the dogs, it’s a load of bollocks. Every one of us, to a man, would do the same in our professional lives, the best situation possible is one where you’re openly desired, you then go to your employer and see if they can match what others may offer you. If they can’t, you weigh up that difference in wage against the happiness of your current position, and I’m quite confident that most players would go with the happiness factor. Hleb always plays, is playing well, and has close friendships with Cesc and Flamini, there’s no reason to think he would leave, providing Arsenal pay him competitively, which of-course they will. You’ll hear something about a new contract in the summer and that’ll be the end of it.
There’s no way Wenger will let Hleb go, his talent is unique in world football and cannot be replaced.
By: hboy on March 20, 2008
at 9:17 am
as for the communist’s who think i can talk about the other 10 good players til the cows come home but have to avoid talking about any bad player , then get a life !
Its opinion .. and yogi printed ade’s latest spiel on how our goal scoring machine works ! …
I was just re-pointing out the obvious ( to me ) that the reason our midfielders ain’t scoring is there trying to feed ade soooooo…
open your eyes ….
if any of you are that fragile i suggest you read yogis daily blog and dont partake in a LIVE forum.
some of your little fragile brains must be hurting !
there are alot of other realists here at the moment go bark up there tree pas ! and monkey boy .
oh i cant read that about ade .. it hurts my little fragile ears ! GROW A SET !
i aint telling porkie pies !
By: ethan_goon on March 20, 2008
at 9:27 am
hboy
fair comment but your comparing work to sport !
in sport you should show team work , support etc..
you have fans … that care .. your life is public news.
at work you dont have 60 000 people cheering you on as you get 80 k a week for 90 minutes work !
and are littered with fan mail ( or hate mail) you also do have to sign 2 yearly contracts with your employer ..
theres a fair bit of difference really .
By: ethan_goon on March 20, 2008
at 9:31 am
I am surprised at how weak Chelsea’s defence looked yesterday. Even more than that I am AMAZED at how many offside goals Chelsea get away with in high-profile games.
By: Ole Gunner on March 20, 2008
at 9:32 am
Pass / William
The story is probably true. As I said in the piece, the Inter part of it is unsubstantiated. The point is though:
1. Why on the eve of a big match was a player allowed to go out in the evening when rest was required and moreover, the person he met was a known agent? It is a matter of commonsense to avoid such meetings but to have it in a high profile situation is nonsense.
2. The main point though is that for all of the good he has done this season, Hleb still has a sizeable chunk of so far silent detractors. His situation is no different to Cesc’s but the reaction substantially so.
3. If you believe that the meeting did not take place fine.
Likewise, I do not believe the platitudes from *any* player. When they say they are happy at club, they are right at that moment in time but things change. If someone wants to stay, they stay. If they do not, they go. The club will never comment on player speculation following the Reyes fiasco when they were made to look totally daft by the subsequent events so do not expect Arsene to react to the story.
YW
By: Yogi's Warrior on March 20, 2008
at 9:39 am
also if you asked every employer about i want more wages or im out .. you might find yourself being OUT of your professional lives
By: ethan_goon on March 20, 2008
at 9:43 am
I think the relative popularity of the players can be a factor in how we fans are reacting to such tapping-up claims surrounding them.
However, what disappoints me is why he had to meet the agent the NIGHT BEFORE THE MILAN GAME – our make/break game by fans, media and players alike.
By: edlass on March 20, 2008
at 9:45 am
That is my hope Ole, that their defense will be hurting from conceding 4 goals and against the Spuds.
I also hope that Ade or any Arsenal player take advantage of that weakness, but they also proved they can score 4 with the ref’s help which I have no doubt will be siding with them especially at SB.
—
Ethan, Pathetic as usual on Ade, and as an Arsenal fan…no matter how I hate an Arsenal player so much, I will still support them because they wear the shirt. So you keep up with your paranoia about people attacking your magnificent ideas of hate…I think you’ll always be paranoid, because you don’t have enough intelligence to understand why.
By: Gunner4Ever on March 20, 2008
at 9:45 am
yes ole , they look beatable ..
but joe cole is a real threat .
lets just hope there are fatigued
,but i also fear grant didnt get an easy 3 points ..
so i expect a yellow card bonanza
By: ethan_goon on March 20, 2008
at 9:46 am
I am not going to jump on Hleb’s back. he may have made a mistake but I am not going to slate him for it. he is one of ours and until that stops being the case he gets my support. the fact is, we as supporters, dont know enough about many stories and I doubt we know what’s really going on here.
He is a fantastic player with a great attitude and a clear love for Arsenal. right now he is tired as are many of the players because they have played too many games in the autumn/winter.
Joe Cole and Drogba looked good last night which is a worry. but their defence did not look that good, so thats good news. we need to get some decent crosses in. dont laugh!
By: gazzap on March 20, 2008
at 9:55 am
Hear hear, pay heed to Passenal. The origin of the Hleb story is the Daily Mail. When I see the date on that rag, I check my calender to confirm.
And this Diaby thing was made out of cloth too.
Oh what about the Ade story about his hair in the News of the World.
Guys buy some salt and start pinching.
By: Ole Gunner on March 20, 2008
at 9:57 am
G4E
Ethan, Pathetic as usual on Ade, and as an Arsenal fan…no matter how I hate an Arsenal player so much, I will still support them because they wear the shirt.
so you supported jens ??
So you alway support team selection ?
i think not !
By: ethan_goon on March 20, 2008
at 9:58 am
Joe Cole looked good at Pascal Chimbonda who, if we’ll be frank, wouldn’t hold a candle to Justin Hoyte. Anybody with half decent fitness and skill will look good next to Chimbonda.
By: Ole Gunner on March 20, 2008
at 10:03 am
If Jens is selected, I will support him %100. He proved that he changed his antics during the game which always made the defense in front of him nervous.
Is he a bad goal keeper, absolutely not. He made a couple of mistakes, and he is 37…it was time to give Amunia a chance.
Did you see me go on and on and on attacking him like you do with Ade and with no basis for attack, the answer is NO…..Because there is a big and fundamental difference between our understanding of how you support a team.
By: Gunner4Ever on March 20, 2008
at 10:07 am
gazz , i agree ..
Hleb is a great player for us and rosicky had the same thing happen to him a while back ..
And i would say ( for once) give yogi some credit !
He has reported some cutting edge gossip !
drawn a conclusion and i think its commendable !
it has you all discussing it anyway !
all you ‘arsene knows best brigade’ ever really want to hear is another persons view that dont hurt your fragile egos ,you just like the news read back to you in a more friendly way .. pampered with a positive spin on it , so you can feel all warm and fuzzy !
Bollocks say it like it is ! or we might as well revert back to communism …
By: ethan_goon on March 20, 2008
at 10:10 am
Boys, if you have a chance, go to arsenal.com and read Clichy’s comments on Chelsea’s late surge. That guy has a good head on his neck.
By: Ole Gunner on March 20, 2008
at 10:13 am
G4E
you kept going on and on about ade !
NOT ME !!!!
read back to 3 months ago .. you wouldnt let it drop !(watch him scoreeeee @! ) remember ??/
ADMIT IT YOU SHALLOW LITTLE MAN !
every time i wrote something you were on my bones !
its payback ! you deserve it .. for your lack of vision of football!
and today i hi-lighted to the people who are stupid enough to think that our midfield are not producing goals when we still dominate possession , i can see it .. ade has confirmed it .. and i also said that was enough on the matter , but you and pas and the monkey spanker still come out with childish comments ..
The problem is im not stating anything that isnt true !
watch him score ?? f### m,e !
im watching ???? still watching ..
400 + minutes and im still watching !
By: ethan_goon on March 20, 2008
at 10:19 am
Of course I did, because you were still attacking him when he was scoring and you are still atacking him when he isn’t
So which one of us has any credibility?
By: Gunner4Ever on March 20, 2008
at 10:22 am
G4E
hahaha he’s 37 and its time to give almunia a go !
yes said nicely ..indeed , but what your still saying is he isnt good enough !
so you dont support everyone in an arsenal shirt!
how about gilberto ?
or ashely cole – he was in an arsenal shirt ..
or th14 ???
oh i like th14 but hate cashley ..
you are so predictable ..
By: ethan_goon on March 20, 2008
at 10:25 am
G4E correct i was attacking him because you called me a retard and other abusive names because i said fundamentally he is not gifted enough to maintain
the position . he gives up the ball too much , he doesnt pass like the rest of the team ! he acted violent to bendtner ! and he JUST GIVES AWAY POSSESSION constantly ! how can you win matches if you dont have possession in the final 3rd ? for god sakes man !
grow a brain !
By: ethan_goon on March 20, 2008
at 10:29 am
Did you also watch when the great TH14 didn’t score for 8 games at one time? Why didn’t you attack him then. You think Ade is not human that he can have ups and downs? What exactly is it Ethan? Why don’t you tell us the real personal reasons for hating Ade…..don’t talk about his skills and scoring becaue you only mention his down side but not his up side….
You have a personal reason for hating him little boy.
He is going to be there and you keep being paranoid.
By: Gunner4Ever on March 20, 2008
at 10:32 am
ENOUGH SAID ON ADE !
no i dont like him as a striker .. and until he learns to do the above i have the right to my opinion .
( and an opinion that is shared with the masses ! )
all i ask is you dont blame people like cesc and flamini , even eboue and walcott who are daft enough to pass to him !
it all falls back to arsene for not disciplining him..
he can play like crap every week and arsene keeps selecting him .. so in essence its not ades fault . He is still raw and learning , and shouldnt have this burden !
lets hope next year he can gel with others around him !
By: ethan_goon on March 20, 2008
at 10:39 am
Yes, the Masses in your head. I understand.
By: Gunner4Ever on March 20, 2008
at 10:40 am
ethan just says a lot of bull. His attacks on Ade have very little basis.
By: Ole Gunner on March 20, 2008
at 10:43 am
if he keeps playing like he is he wont be around much longer no need for paranoia , he will be getting splinters in his butt !is that enough paranoia for you ??
- i can accept people not scoring (th14), what i cannot accept is continually giving away possession cheaply – being offside constantly – not passing off to keep our passing game alive !
don’t warp the facts with your brainless ,thoughtless views !
Again you just cant put it down G4E you argumentative little OMPA LUMPA
By: ethan_goon on March 20, 2008
at 10:45 am
ole
very little basis ? he doesnt score and he’s a striker!
our main striker , WITH MORE PITCH TIME THAN ANYONE !
By: ethan_goon on March 20, 2008
at 10:56 am
You’re delusional if you say he doesn’t score. Pure and simple.
By: Ole Gunner on March 20, 2008
at 11:08 am
YES G4e IN MY OWN MIND!
READ
http://le-grove.co.uk/2008/03/16/rant-response-ade-eboue-and-wengers-fruitless-philosophy/
By: ethan_goon on March 20, 2008
at 11:08 am
OLE
chances Vs scoring ???
By: ethan_goon on March 20, 2008
at 11:09 am
chances vs scoring?
As good a ratio as any striker in the league? How do you want to measure that and who do you want to compare with? I’ll give you the stat
By: Ole Gunner on March 20, 2008
at 11:11 am
This article seems to say something about possible Flam move?
Gunners move for Frenchman
by Chris Stanton, 20 March 2008
Gunners move for Frenchman
Arsenal have approached St Etienne captain Loic Perrin regarding a summer move for the highly-rated Frenchman.
Perrin has been recommended to Arsene Wenger by The Gunners’ French scout Gilles Grimandi and is valued in the region of £5 million by his Ligue 1 employers.
The 22-year-old midfielder’s versatility makes him an attractive proposition for Wenger.
Arsenal chairman Peter Hill-Wood disclosed the approach on Wednesday evening.
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“We have made him a proposal,” said Hill-Wood. “We have heard from his representatives but they have not given us a response.”
Reports in Thursday’s media suggest Perrin has been targeted as a contingency plan should Mathieu Flamini decide to leave Arsenal in the summer.
Flamini – a revelation this season – is out of contract in June and has been linked with a move to Juventus.
By: OLD TIMER on March 20, 2008
at 11:15 am
Transfer speculations bore me to death. 99% of them are false and completely baseless.
By: Ole Gunner on March 20, 2008
at 11:18 am
whilst your on the hunt give me his turn over stats !
his offside stats .. his head butting stats …
go the whole 9 yards …
well lets say his nemesis ronaldo .
the man who took over the top of the leader board from him !
his passing % also !
assists !
Yes i think you know the outcome !
ta
By: ethan_goon on March 20, 2008
at 11:18 am
typical ole !
if you dont believe anything why do you blog ??
anyhow ill back up old timers comments
http://sport.setanta.com/en/Sport/News/Football/2008/03/20/Prem-Hill-Wood-on-Perrin-offer/
By: ethan_goon on March 20, 2008
at 11:20 am
The PHW comment and Perrin story is nonsense. Even when we are definitely going to buy a player and everyone knows it the club stay tight lipped until the ink is on the contract. PHW would never make a comment like this before we have signed someone up, if nothing else it gives other clubs an incentive to come in with a higher offer or at least drive the price up. That story is rubbish.
Probably a Chelase PR stunt to put Flam off his game for Sunday, the cheating cnuts. Same for Hleb story. The timing just before the most important run of games of the season is too coincidental for me. Nice to see Chelsea leaking goals last night, we need all the help we can get in that department at the moment.
By: rayman on March 20, 2008
at 11:30 am
“And i would say ( for once) give yogi some credit !
He has reported some cutting edge gossip !
drawn a conclusion and i think its commendable !”
Yes, because if it depended on you, we would only have ridiculous conclusions based on tabloid gossip all the time. You call people communists (?????) for not believing nor wanting to take seriously the bollocks published by the Daily Mail. Well… there are lots of communists in this country, then. Fortunately.
By: Non Edible Nacho on March 20, 2008
at 11:43 am
yes daily mail + senanta sports who happen to run arsenal tv !
yes nacho .. tell me what ive been wrong about before ??
what have you been right about before ?
nothing because you dont contribute .
Also what country are you on about nacho ?
grin iron ?? south america ? hmmmm
By: ethan_goon on March 20, 2008
at 11:49 am
In fact dont respond G4E – nacho ..
your just argumentative little gremlins .
You got nothing to say, your a waste of blog space and id rather read peoples opinions whether its fact or fiction .. I know what i see and its a shame you both cannot ! You would rather be right ABOUT NOTHING and i cant say ive believed anything youve ever said ! Because neither of you have any fresh ideas or come up with anything individual to say ..
You just a compilation of the masses ..
a high pitch squeek in the universe !
your opinion doesnt make us think , or see things a differing way .. neither of you are creative enough !
ole
dont go down the same road as these 2 .. you have more potential !
By: ethan_goon on March 20, 2008
at 11:57 am
ethan_goon.. u must be a complete moron.. ur very quick to slate adebayor for not scoring enough goals, so would you play up front, Bendtner, Walcott??? they are both not ready, wengers team selection has been spot on for most of the season, hes tried certain combinatations and we all know that Ade is the main striker.. can hold the ball, header, knock down to other playas…u get my point.
Now van persie is back.. it adds anotha dimension to our forward play. Adebayor wont be relied on for that aspect of the game, the passing and creativity. But Ade has done an amazing job this season, carried the frontline of a team that has sat on top of the premiership for god knows how many weeks.. now we become a bit unlucky ur on his case and im not havin it from pothetic supporters like u.
Slating our own players isnt going to bring this title home.. change ur team!
By: chris GOONA on March 20, 2008
at 12:35 pm
the bit your missing chris is i said to buy a striker in the transfer window in December and nacho-g4e
said i was insane ! and abused the living sh#t out of me !
He has not scored in the 4 draws and has cost us the title race potentially !
jens was dropped for less !
get a life …
By: ethan_goon on March 20, 2008
at 1:03 pm
how can you state walcott isnt ready ???
he started one time with ade up front ! and ade doesnt pass to any of his strike partners ! RVP and him wont work either .. as RVP likes a bit of give and go .. ade is too greedy to show any teamwork !
Only chance that RVP has of scoring a goal is off the midfield ! walcott has looked impressive for his time on the pitch and far better than ade ! and that playing from right midfield ! your the moron !
By: ethan_goon on March 20, 2008
at 1:07 pm
You have let yourself down today, YW.
This is all idle tittle tattle & you have given credence to it. The Diaby story was rubbished yesterday & I have not seen anything reliable on Hleb either.
All this does is give ammunition to those ’supporters’ who seem to take such great delight in hating their own players.
In Hleb’s case, even if it were true, would you blame him for looking elsewhere with the fickle support he gets & more importantly the kickings he gets game after game.
As it was he put in a magnificent performance in Milan, so whatever he may have done caused no harm on the night.
Hleb is a player who never lacks for effort even if his form can vary.
OT
Nothing has really changed, with regard players’ loyalty. It was always thus ( eg David Herd, Frank Stapleton etc) but now there should be no reason to lose players we want to keep. If anything players are actually more loyal mainly because of our stature in the current era.
We want them out as soon as they are past their best (or heaven forbid they get injured) so what right have we got to demand loyalty from them.
We fans have a romantic fantasy about our clubs. It is different for those that have to actually do the business for us.
By: Flint McCullough on March 20, 2008
at 1:14 pm
RvP can score from many situations.. hes is absolute quality, he has one of the most impressive goal scoring ratios wen he is fit. He can make goals out of nething, not only wen he is played the ball from midfield.
I think walcott is quality and needs sum games, but do honestly think wenger will throw him into the deep end, meaning wen hes barely played a run of games up front, he will do it now wen every game counts..? i will rather use him on the right than Eboue.. or as an impact player at this point.
1 otha thing, if your one of the players calling for another signing then ur logic is very limited. Its fans like you that disrupt the team and confidence, and your probably one of those that moans and groans in the crowd wen u shuld be supporting your team.
By: chris GOONA on March 20, 2008
at 1:16 pm
chris
RVP was out all season , Yes i wanted a world class striker to give us a bit of experience up front , as if you cannot tell that ade – bendtner are so far away from the finished product , you are the moron that you called me !
And walcott has had very limited time and been played out of position surely he would not loose possession more or be off side more . or disrupt our passing game more than ade, Walcott looked impresive against milan for the time he had ,getting behind defences !
yes i would go with RVP and walcott any day of the week !
one is a marksman and one is a supplier !
a brilliant combination .. its obvious ade isnt working how many more draws do you want to see ?
By: ethan_goon on March 20, 2008
at 1:23 pm
I am shocked to hear an Arsenal fan say that Ade has potentially lost us the title!! What the hell, Ade has hit a bit of a blip in form, but hold on, every player in the world does that. You simply cant expect a striker to score in every game.
What you do need is other players in the team who can take on the mantle when he is out of form, that has been our problem this month. Fabregas has lost a bit of composure in front of goal, Flam is not forward, Hleb is not good enough at finishing (and needs to get better in my view), Eboue is a right back, Walcott is an impact player to make space, Eduardo is crippled, Bentner should not be in the team (in my view – dont slate me for that!)
On the whole, the way we play football needs scoring midfield players, the ball is cut back so often, we have so many player close in to the goal and on the break we have players streaming forward, a player who can make some space and score is essential. We lack that! We have really missed Van P this month, Ade has done an amazing job up there on his own and cant be critisised!
I am not in full defense of everything, I think we have made some mistakes this season and some players could have done better, however one player who has taken on more than anyone else is Ade. He needs the support of his team (AND THEIR FANS!)
By: Marcus on March 20, 2008
at 1:36 pm
flint,
“In Hleb’s case, even if it were true, would you blame him for looking elsewhere with the fickle support he gets & more importantly the kickings he gets game after game.”
of course he should be blamed if it is true, there is a time and place to be speaking to other clubs and this isn’t one of them.
cole was out of order and if it is true so is helb, full stop.
of course there is no loyalty except from the fans, as we discussed in the past football is not what it was and is on a very slippery slope.
it is all about money, just look at the flamini situation. The majority of the players don’t deserve the admiration we give them, i doubt that they are still as peed off as the rest of us about last weekend. but that is the nature of the game nowadays.
By: dan on March 20, 2008
at 1:41 pm
marcus i agree, to blame the league on ade is ridiculous, as with all the glory when a team wins the responsibility always rests with the manager.
By: dan on March 20, 2008
at 1:57 pm
“yes nacho .. tell me what ive been wrong about before ??”
Arsenal playing the Uefa Cup next year, for starters.
By: Non Edible Nacho on March 20, 2008
at 2:45 pm
to say ade has made us lose the title is a joke…we r able to compete for the title coz of him…and tht too no one inc wenger expected him to fire those many goals..even in the champion’s league…walcott just keeps running and running thts y he is able to play wide where open spaces are more….in a striker’s position he wud very easily be muscled out and altho his ball distribution is quite superb…he wudnt be much of a threat (aerially either)…so wat “can and wud have” happen is anyone’s call….
i dont care if flamini leaves seriously….those who blve in the club stay those who dont go…henry’s case very apt example…flamini isnt anywhere near henry’s stature at the club anyways…dont really bother.
By: rohan on March 20, 2008
at 2:46 pm
“yes daily mail + senanta sports who happen to run arsenal tv !”
So what?
All media is run by 5 or 6 corporations, nothing new there. Just another good reason not to trust them.
“id rather read peoples opinions whether its fact or fiction”
Specially if they are fiction and fit your preconceived ideas about Arsenal being doomed and needing to learn from teams like United. Leeds United, that is.
By: Non Edible Nacho on March 20, 2008
at 2:50 pm
ethan is wrong about everything that involves substance. I don’t know of anything he’s right about.
Of course I respect that they’re his opinions but I’m the kind of guy who likes to see opinions that are based on some fact.
By: Ole Gunner on March 20, 2008
at 2:57 pm
yes nacho !
stop talking to me ..
so what ? HAHAHAHA!
grab a brain i aint wasting my breathe on a argumentative idiot like you .. i say black you say white .. go watch some grid iron .. and get @@@@@@ sideways .. as you so quaintly put it…
Ole you havent been here for very long i take it !
when i first came to this board i said th14 was leaving and had to deal with jokers like you telling me i was insane ! then i said wenger will sign his new contract NOW ,everyone told me i was insane AGAIN he wont sign til the very end of his deal .. blah blah ! and he signed when i said he would !
Then i stated ade isnt good enough (and wheres the stats by the way ?) and the figures prove he isnt !…times proved he isnt !go to the link above at le grove and read away at all the fans , that aint unlike me ! (with a brain). Then in December i said it will be a mistake if we dont sign a striker ..
everyone like you nacho- g4e oh we dont need another striker we have plenty , i cant wait for the transfer wndow to close ! HAHAHA!
I also said to pat, flamini wont re-sign in November .. And for everything ive said i coped so much crap for ! along the way ..
once gilberto lost his captaincy i said he would leave ! thats taken 7 months to be let out of the closet but im sure he knew in december .
so yes i was wrong about everything that holds substance !
idiot !
id like to know what youve been right about ? other than arguing .. tell me something in your vast almighty brain ! that others would like to hear ?!
yes i thought so ..
ole stop talking to me also !
your a hero in your own lunch box !
rohan
we are able to compete because of ade ?
how do you figure that ? because he gives up so much possession to the other teams? (which has been happening ALL SEASON !) or consistent off sides which gives him the title of MOST OFF SIDES IN THE EPL !,or his inability to pass the ball ? his first touch ? or lack of !?
He has denied bendtner the chance to shine or theo ! as we don’t get possession in the final 3rd anymore .. and if we do he doesn’t pass to them ! His self admission that he hogs the ball is above in yogis blog .. he stops our passing game is the most HUGEST FACTOR in our demise !..
jens lets in 2 easy goals and he’s benched indefinitely , he doesn’t score for ‘WELL OVER’ 4 games
with so many chances to score on his plate EVERY GAME and he gets picked every week still ! Then most of you blame the midfield ! unbelievable !
I think you all like to live in a fantasy world here !
we have drawn the last 4 because we havent scored ! so i suppose you have to blame the defenders for not scoring dont you ???
morons !
By: ethan_goon on March 20, 2008
at 3:40 pm
Flint I tend to think players of the past did have a loyalty to their particular club. Example stars such as Bobby Charlton, latter players such as Drake Compton Kelsey and many others who were loyal to the club. Of course in those days as you would know contracts were contracts, and the clubs had the upper hand. Today it may not be the player who wants the move but his manager, who has a business to run and make money. The club’s present standing and past traditions of course play an important part, but the 30 age requirement also adds to a feeling of insecurity. But at the end of the day the player will go to the club prepared to pay the most money. The ever increasing example is the drift between in our own football competition. In days past teams went to the top of the divisions and fell; the only team not to was of course ours. Chelsea would never be in their position except for the lorry loads of cash put in by their Russian benefactor; our team once again on the whole seems to be the odd ball out. But to the question there is no loyalty in football except as one fan wrote here ‘of course there is no loyalty except from the fans,’. I tend to feel now-days footballers are over paid bloody prima donas, I want to play all games I want to play in that position. Perhaps I’m out of date but IMO the manager picks the team, selects who will play in what position and what formation he will use. Even Flam stated I don’t want to play left back anymore, when at the time we were desperately short of someone to play in that position. But as I said that is just my opinion.
By: Old Timer on March 20, 2008
at 3:50 pm
“The interesting aspect though has been the comparison to the reactions that greeted Cesc’s admission that he met with officials of Real Madrid last summer. There was a muted criticism of him but almost to a man, Real were seen as the villains. Not much different to Hleb’s outing; the difference in the popularity of the players though is marked.”
Sorry Yogi, but I strongly disagree.
The difference is this: Cesc came out and admitted it publicly — and he did it quickly. He didn’t wait days to say anything, he didn’t depend on his agent to speak for him. He did not sneak off before a crucial CL game. He met with Real Madrid while he was at home in Spain during the summer break. I’m not crazy about Cesc meeting with them but I can overlook it due to the context. Days have passed since the revelations came out and Hleb has still said nothing to the press. Only his agent has spoken.
The circumstances are quite different. If Cesc had met with Inter the night before our game with Milan, I would’ve reacted in the same way I reacted toward Hleb.
I liked your comments likening the squad relationships and squabbles to a family. So true.
In the previous post’s comments, Steve mentioned that Djourou just played in midfield for the reserves. Sometime last fall, while he was still at Birmingham, Djourou was quoted in the Swiss press saying that his preferred position is in midfield. He said that he sees himself as a midfielder and that he plans to build his future career as a midfielder. I don’t recall if he plays in that position for Switzerland.
Have to say that the Spurs-Chelsea game was pretty damned exciting. I was with some fellow gooners watching the game and we were so caught up in it that we forgot we were watching two teams we can’t stand.
By: NYmarcus on March 20, 2008
at 3:57 pm
All I ever see you write is way off and nothing to do with reality. Anybody insisting Adebayor hasn’t done well for Arsenal this season has zero credibility.
By: Ole Gunner on March 20, 2008
at 3:58 pm
Ethan, you are just a child who is looking for attention, so you say cr*p to be the center of attention.
TH14 used to play ballet dancing with high balls that he never even come near, he never went in a tackle until he got the arm band. But, we all loved him when he was up & when he was down.
You are giving Le Grove as an example for an Arsenal blog, this guy never wrote anything good about Arsenal. I view those bloggers as David Dean supporters not Arsenal supporters. That’s why I only post here, because the views of the blogger are fair & balanced.
G4E
By: Gunner4Ever on March 20, 2008
at 4:07 pm
“Another reason for Hleb to be going is the fact that he is kicked off the park most weeks”
Now this I can definitely see. I’m frankly surprised that more technically gifted players don’t choose to leave the PL precisely for this reason — of course the Prem pays higher wages than the Italian or Spanish leagues.
I do sometimes wonder if Hleb wouldn’t be better off in Spain or Italy where his talents would be given more room to shine than they do in the hectic PL.
I think it’s wrong to say that anyone who reacts badly to Hleb meeting with Inter (if true) is part of the anti-Hleb brigade. That’s lazy reasoning. I’ve defended Hleb since he came to the club. Last season when so many gooners everywhere kept calling him “shit!”, demanding that he be sold, I totally defended him as an incredibly gifted player, one of AW’s best finds, who just needed to find his confidence. A couple of my gooner friends here in NY called me crazy.
I have loved watching him–even when he fails– throughout his stay with Arsenal. Even more than Flam and Cesc, Hleb is my favorite Arsenal player this season. One of my favorite articles on Arsenal came from the Times last fall. It was a fantastic look at Hleb, entitled “The Courage to Fail.”
And some of you are not getting it. Any player, I don’t care who it is, who sneaks off in secret to meet with another club the night before such an important game, in the middle of a campaign, at such a crucial time, deserves any criticism he gets. It may well not be true but Inter’s denials are hardly believable and Hleb’s agent has come out with a ludicrous story about the player, agent and Inter reps sharing ice cream, ffs! Hleb hasn’t denied it, nor has his agent said he was misquoted or that the story is untrue. Neither AW nor the club PR office have publicly denied any of it.
By: NYmarcus on March 20, 2008
at 4:24 pm
Nice Blog Ole, I just visited. Keep up the good work.
By: Gunner4Ever on March 20, 2008
at 4:28 pm
Oh and btw, watching Cashley’s tackle last night, and the replays was like watching an almost-replay of Eduardo’s broken leg. I had to look away. If Hutton’s leg had stayed planted on the ground, I wonder if we’d have another player with out for a year.
By: NYmarcus on March 20, 2008
at 4:33 pm
Come on u scumbags!!! Now tht u hv seen ur team is nt gonna make it, u r crying and making excuses like kids…f**ing losers!!!
By: itsUnited on March 20, 2008
at 4:41 pm
old timer,
the players are over paid and over hyped by the fans and more importantly the media. i do not subscribe to this ade bashing in any shape or form. however what is undoubted to me is that the guy had some great games was suddenly elevated to “one of the best strikers in the world” which to me was clearly ridiculous as still is, he has great potential but has loads to learn and actually seems to lack some of the real basic fundementals. The result has been ade’s head has grown beyond all proportions and freely discusses himself in reference to other teams etc and has become undroppable by wenger despite his poor form and obvious exhaustion. same for flam the guy plays 3/4 of a great season and suddenly a five year 50k a week contract at arsenal isn’t good enough. don’t get me wrong he has done fantastically but again is not that great and way off being the finished product.
Flam can not be compared to csec and should be paid the same, his role is crucial but cesc is one of those outstanding players who only come about once in a while, flam is not and never will be that kind of player.
Not all players are like that (RVP, Toure, Clichy come to mind) but a lot are, and that certainly created cynical fans who see the helb stories, assume they are true and get utterly put off by the players.
i don’t subscribe to the english players argument, but always beleived an englishman is more likely to see playing for arsenal as the pinacle of their career rather than a stepping stone to one of the euro giants which i think most of the foriegn players probaly feel.
By: dan on March 20, 2008
at 4:41 pm
Ethan goon….what r u on about. U definitely have a lot of time on your hands but sadly nothing intelligent to say for it.20 posts and still you have no point.What they say about empty vessels is not wrong is it?
Your blind adulation of Torres is blinkered.The guy has hit a good vein of form.He wasnt shit when he wasnt scoring was he!Or the fact that he couldnt cut it in Spain.
World class strikers? Who did u have in mind? I.d say we have 3 at Arsenal already .2 have been injured all season which no one can legislate for and the other is very much on his way and been playing out of his skin all season. You are quite welome to recite your TH14 hero worship on a Barca blog.
Ade is not the reason why the team dont score. Its a lack of confidence and bad luck I seem to remember Ade always setting up Fabregas in Milan n the last 2 games for chances at goal which almost always hit the bar or landed in the keepers hands.
Theo has shown a lot of promise but is definetly still work in progress . He is suffering from the weight of responsibilty that idiots like you place on him to lead the front line and score 30 goals.
To build his confidence Arsene puts him on in the last 20 minutes to run at defences after the team have done all the hard work and he is most effective in these periods. He has been less effective when he has played 90 minutes because his game becomes predictable, defenders gang up on him and he is forced into blind alleys. Ade is more of a threat despite his recent goal drought, can hold the ball better and bring other players in to the game better and is good in the air. You also fail to notice that Ade’s game improved when he had a good strike partner alongside him , first RVP then Eduardo. Any striker worth his salt depends on a good partnership with his strikers and midfield and confience.His goal at white Hart Lane in the CC was at the peak of his confidence and shows what this guy can do once he is back to form.But you are obviously to blind to see this.
By: Gooner4Life on March 20, 2008
at 4:54 pm
Ethan: I watch YankBall, that makes me unable to speak about football? (which I’ve been following for waaaaaaaay more time than Am. Football) Well, you don’t care, anything is useful for you to disqualify other people’s opinions.
Also: no one here is discussing AW’s contract or Henry’s sale. We are discussing your utter negativity and impossibilty to appreciate the good things in this club, which are more than in almost any other club in the world. You are just blind to the club’s imprvement, to Wenger’s deep reform of the club, to all Arsenal has achieved in terms of trophies, infrastructure, footbal style, culture, etc., in an age when all this is not easy without selling the soul of the club. You just need instant success. You are obviously at the wrong club.
By: Non Edible Nacho on March 20, 2008
at 5:16 pm
who cares about reform,i want trophies
By: ethan_goon on March 20, 2008
at 5:48 pm
it does seem that trophies have become secondary to people nowadays, which is strange to me and not how i was brought up to watch football. wenger is a genius how he has moved fans expectations and desires to mirror his own.
By: dan on March 20, 2008
at 5:54 pm
i hate you etan-spuds
By: manu-adebayor on March 20, 2008
at 5:58 pm
Arsenal TV is not ‘run’ by Setanta. It is broadcast by Setanta and produced by some production company whose name escapes me on behalf of Arsenal FC.
Of course the subtlety of this no doubt eludes Ethan.
Ethan, Please go back to wherever you have been lurking these past few months. I had just begun to enjoy coming home from work to read this comments page again after your previous infestation. Now every second comment is from you repeating the same tired mantra like a broken record – its ruined it for me and I expect a good few others.
Ethan, please use the time you would be blogging to undertake a basic literacy course, a relating to your fellow humans study and perhaps something on critical thought. After that come back and maybe we’ll get on better.
By: Josef K on March 20, 2008
at 6:01 pm
“We want them out as soon as they are past their best (or heaven forbid they get injured) so what right have we got to demand loyalty from them.”
Spot on Flint – we have no more right to demand something if we cannot give it ourselves.
NYMarcus, the problem I have with the Hleb story is that he met an agent in Italy. There is no proof that he met with anyone from Inter Milan, yet some people have already decided he is guilty as charged. Even when the Cashley story first broke I waited until it was a proven fact before reaching any conclusions. All I’m saying is that natural justice should prevail and that a man is innocent until proven guilty. I cannot change my approach just because it involves football, especially when I know that journalists are not paragons of virtue, but human beings with agendas.
By: Passenal on March 20, 2008
at 6:01 pm
who cares about reform
Who cares what you want? You can’t spell, puntuate, use grammar or form a reasonable argument.
Nobody listens to people like you in any sphere of life.
GO AWAY.
By: Josef K on March 20, 2008
at 6:02 pm
Clearly that should be ‘punctuate’.
By: Josef K on March 20, 2008
at 6:04 pm
i graduated from Harvard School of Sh^t, with PHD in Art of how to be Sh^t-ful of it. What do you guys know about that? Huh? Huh?
I’m the one and only :Ethan The Spud Sh^t: I mean Head….Sh^t Head
Well you know what i mean
By: Ethan_The_Spud_Head on March 20, 2008
at 6:15 pm
passenal, fair enuf, your comment is eminently reasonable, maybe I have jumped the gun. I’d love to see the story proven wrong or exaggerated.
Can we make it a rule that if rival fans come onto this blog they are required to post something that passes for intelligence and relevance?
Finally, I really have to keep asking the rest of you: WHY DO YOU KEEP FEEDING THIS GUY???
You’re all smart, level-headed, informed, civil. This is easily the most rational, civil Arsenal blog I’ve yet seen.
JUST IGNORE HIM. I don’t even read his posts, I scroll past his fulminations every time I see his moniker. Ignore him!
By: NYmarcus on March 20, 2008
at 6:20 pm
FIFA vs. FA
I really recommend FIFA & Platter for insisting the FA reconsider their decision not to extend “The Stupid Giant’s” ban. Even if the FA doesn’t extend his ban, it will show they are bunch idiots and they don’t represent football well in the UK or Internationally.
By: Gunner4Ever on March 20, 2008
at 7:04 pm
It is rare and refreshing to see a British sports pundit at a major broadsheet writing about Manchester United without the predictable fawning worship at the feet of Alex Ferguson and his “invincible” team:
http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/sport/2008/03/19/ronaldos_brilliance_masks_unit.html
By: NYmarcus on March 20, 2008
at 7:08 pm
NYmarcus
A must read for you know who
By: Gunner4Ever on March 20, 2008
at 7:15 pm
“JUST IGNORE HIM. I don’t even read his posts, I scroll past his fulminations every time I see his moniker. Ignore him!”
That’s my approach too NYMarcus – apart from occasionally catching the first couple of lines of a post, I know I’m not going to gain anything from reading or responding to him.
By: Passenal on March 20, 2008
at 8:05 pm
NYMarcus
Unfortunately, if you spend as much time on the Guardian blogs as I do you would know that articles like that are purely designed to court controversy.
In this case it may refresh our palates but the fact of the matter is; the article will have been specifically designed to prompt reaction. We may like what it says – but that is the point: we opposition fans love it, United fans hate it. Thus a Rumble Royale ensues generating x amount of site hits and comments.
They write that sort of thing fawning over us enough to make the majority of football fans in this country genuinely beleiving there is a london centric bias toward Arsenal in the media and contributing to their hatred of us. This despite the Guardian hailing from…Manchester.
Just want to add – Ethan: Fcuk off, you’re unpleasant and I don’t like you. Please note the use of punctuation in this paragraph; much more punchy ain’t it?
By: Josef K on March 20, 2008
at 8:18 pm
ethan_goon on March 20, 2008
at 3:40 p
That is the most self regarding post on a blog I have ever read.
Fcuk off to ‘Le Grove’ where you belong.
Cretin.
By: Josef K on March 20, 2008
at 9:20 pm
HAHA i caused quite a stir !
yet none of you have really got a valid reason why .. dont like my comments? dont read them !and dont fuel the fire then ! (g4e-g4l-nacho-ole)
And you all tell me i hate ade for no reason !
your all fools pas- special k (YOU f#kk OFF IVE BEEN HERE LONGER) !
None of you add anything to this web blog , you just fluff each other up , and josef, i cant spell?? look above ‘genuinely beleiving ‘ hahahaha spelled correctly it is =believing
retard ! who are you to judge me ?
you ugly little man !
who cares when you get home from your job as janitor you want to get on your Pentium I
and fossilize around , arrr do i spoil it for you ?
HAHAHA , you got no rights , you aren’t prince charlie !
you think people want to read you bytchin about me 4 the last 20 posts ? least i team talk !.. yours is just lynch mob gossip ! shows me the fragile little gimps that you all are ! Come together, share the common goal , get ethan out .. well i aint going ! might as well take pass’es advise !
ignore me !
By: ethan_goon on March 20, 2008
at 9:27 pm
Josef K
i know where you belong mate and its got 4 white walls ! your life must be pretty sad if that all you look forward too ! ..
By: ethan_goon on March 20, 2008
at 9:30 pm
nacho
Well, you don’t care, anything is useful for you to disqualify other people’s opinions.
Gee sounds like you !
thats straight out of the nacho text book !
By: ethan_goon on March 20, 2008
at 9:45 pm
Ignorance can not be wiped away so easily.
By: Gunner4Ever on March 20, 2008
at 9:54 pm
101 posts, almost a third by you know who. Must have alot of free time on his hands.
By: Steve on March 20, 2008
at 9:55 pm
Actually, it must be all copy and paste…it’s all the same.
Another sign of laziness?
By: Gunner4Ever on March 20, 2008
at 10:02 pm
I sincerly believe now that some people are here with ulterior motives.
As they only seem to appear whenever the team is not doing well.
Dein and co do have a very long reach, could it be they now have swines posting on blogs to sell their agenda?
By: shango on March 20, 2008
at 10:13 pm
That what I said at 4:07 Shango. These people must be paid by David Dein to upset the stability at Arsenal and shake the board….F*cking mercenaries who have nothing to do other than get a few quids a day, buy some cheap beer and right cr*p to incite the fans against their club.
By: Gunner4Ever on March 20, 2008
at 10:23 pm
-right
+Write
By: Gunner4Ever on March 20, 2008
at 10:24 pm
I sincerly have come to believe that. All genuine fans should realise this and not engage them. What is the point?
By: shango on March 20, 2008
at 10:26 pm
It’s a catch 22 Shango, if we let them…their voices may grow louder and sway some un-aware fans. If we fight them, it gives them the importance…..What scum they are.
By: Gunner4Ever on March 20, 2008
at 10:35 pm
http://www.skysports.com/football/stats/club/0,19887,11670,00.html
some stats…just to prove tht the blip in ade’s form is largely due to virtually non existant midfield..in terms of penetration.
goals scored in premiership:
Ade:19
fabregas :7 (gud old days!!)
Rosicky: 6 (enf for his season)
RVP:5
Eduardo:4
Gallas:3
Flamini:3
Walcott:2
Bendtner:2
A bunch of goals came from RVP, Fabregas and Rosicky during which Ade was in very gud form.
2 of them..RVP and Rosicky soon as every season had to visit the hospital for a decent time..thts wen the goals dried up from fabregas….and wenger was forced to introduce Eduardo…..at which point Ade suddenly came to life..he was red hot in form in front of goal……..
Unfortunately Dudu was injured…and RVP Rosicky werent thr…Hleb never improved his scoring record this season….so all down to Ade…result no goals in 4 premier league games…
Its very very logical to reason out the reason for this slump..i see it clearly…no one thot dudu wud be injured in such a major way…ade is in no way inferior to Bendtner at least..plz dont give lectures on “y Bendtner wasnt given chance to shine and al…”..reason…he came bak from loan only this season…
yes we r playing poorly…Ade is the reason??…no way!!
By: rohan on March 20, 2008
at 10:58 pm
Thanks for the research Rohan, it makes sense, but not with the “senseless”.
By: Gunner4Ever on March 20, 2008
at 11:03 pm
Rohan all the stats in the world will not convince some people. It is true Ade has not scored for a few games but all strikers have slumps. The amount of work a loan striker has to do means he will get tired sooner or later. The injuries to our other strikers this season have been long term and nobody could have predicted that not even the real Oracle.
By: Steve on March 20, 2008
at 11:08 pm
Rohan all the stats in the world will not convince some people. It is true Ade has not scored for a few games but all strikers have slumps. The amount of work a loan striker has to do means he will get tired sooner or later. The injuries to our other strikers this season have been long term and nobody could have predicted that not even the real O.R.A.C.L.E.
By: Steve on March 20, 2008
at 11:10 pm
I double posted because my 1st post is in moderation for using the O word at the end.
By: Steve on March 20, 2008
at 11:11 pm
Ethan says: “HAHA i caused quite a stir !”
And that whoop of joy is all anyone needs to know about him.
Please, people, don’t feed the trolls.
By: nolagunner on March 20, 2008
at 11:47 pm
I agree with nolagunner’s last post, that was exactly what I felt when I read that from.
shango: your idea is a bit too conspiracy theorist for my liking. There are lots of genuinely stupid fans out there, never happy with anything, and some even pathological, that want the team to do wrong just to be proven right.
Still, there are economic reasons behind that: the media and the system in which we live in promotes that kind of instant gratification stupidity. It benefits them.
By: Non Edible Nacho on March 20, 2008
at 11:58 pm
steve
do you really need stats ?
come on ! all you need to do is look at the boro game and count the amount of times he coughed up possession ! or in the last hand full of games that his slip in form s HAPPEN and at the most unfavorable times !
This is the time when he needed to prove the ‘fairy land squad’ he has what it takes !
Ands yes rohan you retard of course he’s scored more goals than anyone ! he is in the striking position and has been all season ,and wont pass to anyone else !! ronald mac donald could have scored more goals in the same space of time and chances given ! ! SOUND FAMILIAR ? likewise gibbs couldn’t score any goals as he hasn’t played for the 1st team in the EPL .. are you truly that retarded ? how many has he scored in the last 8 EPL games? critical title race EPL games
how many ?
NOT GOOD ENOUGH !
we droped 8 points
NOT GOOD ENOUGH
why ? has he scored no GOALS !
NOT GOOD ENOUGH
keep possession in the final 3rd ?
we cant , he keeps spilling the ball EVERY ####### TIME !
cant you see it you walleys ????
nolagunner
yes the whoopie of joy because these a@@holes
gave me so much grief months ago , and now its been proven right , i expected this sort of gangland retaliation from them . Ill keep rubbing you up the wrong way until you admit you all were wrong !
Alot of people out there are frustrated by ade’s form (and other players) and whilst knobheads keep protecting him , we will not see an improvement ! your retardedness is astounding !
Your the sort of fans who STOP this great club from progressing , yes manipulate what im saying all day .. but the truth remains he needs to score a goal or more every game to get up to a statistic worthy of winning us this title ! and this year more so than any other ! due to its tightness !
he isnt ready and its not his fault ! its your faults for having blind faith in him , week in ,week out !
for not spotting that he cannot take the burden, or pressures of the job he’s given week in, week out !
dont shoot the messenger !
By: ethan_goon on March 21, 2008
at 1:12 am
Utter rubbish again. Gibbs was OK in the Emirates Cup (but nothing else) he is not doing that well on loan either, so you are talking more shite.
And as for proven right you predicted spuds would take our 4th place, and we would only get a EUFA place.
“Your the sort of fans who STOP this great club from progressing , yes manipulate what im saying all day .. but the truth remains he needs to score a goal or more every game to get up to a statistic worthy of winning us this title ! and this year more so than any other ! due to its tightness !”
a goal or more every game? If he scored a goal a game from now it would be 27 prem goals + others. Not many strikers in the past have done that
By: Steve on March 21, 2008
at 1:51 am
“he isnt ready and its not his fault ! its your faults for having blind faith in him , week in ,week out !
for not spotting that he cannot take the burden, or pressures of the job he’s given week in, week out !
dont shoot the messenger !”
Another change from your previous stance. Before he was not good enough and never would be. Now it is all the fans fault for overhyping him.
Whilst I agree fans do overhype players you cannot change your stance when it suits you.
By: Steve on March 21, 2008
at 1:55 am
steve your a mess !
i was refering to gibbs not playing one game in the EPL and ade playing all games ! Of course he would score more goals than gibbs ! gibbs hasnt played in the first team in the EPL
your mentally retarded ! of course ade has scored more goals hes had all the chances to do so this season !
DO YOU UNDERSTAND NOW ???
Ive always talked one season at a time !
i never said ade will NEVER be any good !
I said he wont be this season …
and lastly i said that we would loose of C.L spot if wenger didnt buy anyone !!! and didnt replace henry !
he got dudu – sagna and diarra ..
HE bought people ! like i said he would !
like you people said HE WOULDNT !
i was happy when he got dudu !
also i think that means my statement of we will loose our spot if we dont buy anyone
IS NULL AND VOID !
research your facts before you have the b@lls to quote what i said !
More importantly tell me if you think we will win the title race .. i hear alot of people disputing what i said ,yet none of you have any thought yourselves ! AND THAT GOES FOR ALL OF YOU ole -nacho-G4E , dispute what i say but cant tell me what will happen ! and why im incorrect !
If you disagree with what i say then tell me why and what will happen ? will ade score goals ?
will we win the title race until you state what WILL HAPPEN , then don’t dispute my theories !
because our future rests on RVP and walcott !
not some raw striker who has under preformed !
He’s there to score goals and he hasnt !
dispute that !
By: ethan_goon on March 21, 2008
at 7:08 am
steve
“Your the sort of fans who STOP this great club from progressing , yes manipulate what im saying all day .
yes your pretty good at that yourself !
and im a fan who points out our weakneses
to hopefully bring them to light SO WE CAN CHANGE THEM !
But with the mentality of you people , you strive to brush it under the carpet ! afraid to really think for yourself ! To come out and say HE MUST DO BETTER , if you said that instead of defending him then we might get along !
you are the sad type of fan that has gotten used to loosing ! as forgets the good fortune we had in the 2003 era! Your in no hurry for it to return !
the spuds got a peice of silverware this year and yes im jealous of that ! what will we win this year you smart asses ?
tell me ! as your so confident ! or shut up !
By: ethan_goon on March 21, 2008
at 7:21 am
nacho
There are lots of genuinely stupid fans out there, never happy with anything, and some even pathological, that want the team to do wrong just to be proven right.
you talking about yourself ?
i want to WIN ! WIN WIN WIN !
not persist with 2nd best !
youd rather prove people wrong !
and us loose .. and soon with your attitude youll get your wish !Instead of backing me up and saying yes i agree ! ades performance is not good and hasnt been for a while now ! youd rather STILL DEFEND HIM until we are back in 4th spot again ???
I dont need to prove that your all wrong , i know you are!!! the trick is to get you all to admit it !
By: ethan_goon on March 21, 2008
at 7:45 am
yeah baby…cause i’m a one sh*t bad a$$ boy
By: ethan_goon on March 21, 2008
at 9:08 am
he he ethan..no one is retarded except u…and u rnt retard u r extremely nearsighted…”ade sighted” i wud say…tell me if we had some goal scoring or at least a penetrative winger(rite or left)…hadnt ade in most probability scored more and hadnt we be in the top rite now?? can u bet against ade getting chances in front of goal and “NOT SCORING”??? dont tell me he missed chances in tht match and in ur fav boro match etc etc..wud u bet against it before the match..
Do u think if dudu wudnt have been injured we wudnt have been top of league at the moment???
ethan do u ade hunt for a living or wat??? go man have some fun, go out, join a futsal club or something then come back home even more retarded….i doubt have u ever kicked a football before??
By: ethan..ethan..ethan!!!! on March 21, 2008
at 10:07 am
ur point “we r losing bcoz of ade” is nonsense…
we have abs no cover for any position..most of us wud agree…
rite bak:sagna/2goals
left bak:clichy/2 goals
centre:fab/he he
rite wing: eboue/walcott
left wing:hleb/none
upfront: ade/bendtner???
Ade has done well to keep himself fit and away from injuries this long he has played in every single match tht i remember for the entire 90 minutes.
“we will lose due to lack of depth”..makes more sense…ethan take some logical reasoning classes and come bak…then we can talk..if u can “talk” and not sh**.
By: ethan..ethan..ethan!!!! on March 21, 2008
at 10:14 am
“william” – Im not sure I understand what you were trying to say…
I support Arsenal, and I support Adebayor. Thats why I said he is a great striker.
He DOES lack intelligence. He is always offside, and just hes general play, you can see hes not the brightest of players. E.g Fabregas is intelligent.
I still think he is a great striker. Just his weakness is his lack of intelligence.
Thats not a criticism.
By: Damien on March 22, 2008
at 8:56 am