Great Leaders in any field will seek to inspire through words and deeds, to drive their charges on to greater heights and to ensure that mental focus is not lost on the road ahead. William Gallas is facing such a challenge now and is aware of it,
I will tell you why there was a difference between the performance at Milan and then in our next game at Wigan — it was in the head…what we needed was an even higher level than we had in Milan. We all have to understand that quickly because time is running out this season
It is a bit late in my opinion for this epiphany; that was needed before Wigan and Middlesbrough. However, Gallas needs to get inside the collective psyche as well as individuals. There is undoubtedly a great togetherness within the squad but there needs to be more leadership, to raise others to be more influential in the final third because it does not matter how many you concede so long as you score one more than your opponents.
The key aspect for me of recent games has been the inability to break down stubborn resistance. The number of chances created each game is dipping as is the ratio of shots on target. Confidence is dented as Arsene acknowledged,
I feel they gave absolutely everything, but there was a little fraction less of belief. There was a big disappointment in the dressing room. It was like a defeat. It is the flattest I have seen them after a game
I do not think anyone can fault the physical effort they are putting in. However, mentally you wonder if the collective nature of the squad is dampening some leadership spirit; whether perhaps some are keeping harmony ahead of what might be considered a ‘good old fashioned rollicking’. Sometimes, talking is cheap and letting off steam is more productive.
There is a danger that we have slipped into the same ways of the tail-end of last season where it drifts which would be a pity for a team that has achieved considerably more than was expected of them. The pressure will be on them this weekend because realistically, Chelsea will be level on points following their visit to Tottenham on Wednesday and by the time kick-off comes at Stamford Bridge, I fully expect United to be six points clear. A draw under those circumstances will not be good enough.
It is not just the players and Gallas as Captain that has to find motivation. Arsene does as well, for himself and the squad. The mental ability to retrieve a deficit is well documented but it is the extra level of killing a game off that needs to be found. In Europe, that does not seem to be an issue but domestically, it has been lacking.
Arsene observed,
I feel the team fights, we came back again against Boro and this team will fight until the end. I believe we need to keep fighting and then to turn things around. We didn’t lose against Middlesbrough, a draw was not enough – but we have to lift the spirits and go for the next one. We can do it – but first we want to turn our form around again, lift the spirits and focus on the next one
Fortunately, the next one is a big one. It will not end the title race but with games fast running out, it could be hugely influential. I do not believe that motivation will be an issue for this game but the visit to Bolton in a fortnight is crucial and these are the fixtures where we have been lacking mental fortitude. I believe Arsene and his staff can find the answers before then, as they have done in the past.
Elsewhere, Barcelona apparently want Eboue, we are after Diogo, a young Brazilian and the commercial departments at Nike and Arsenal are going into overdrive to celebrate the twentieth anniversary of winning the league at Anfield. Oh, and Gilberto has apparently decided that he might leave. Stunning, is one word I would not use in connection with that revelation. In fact, revelation is another word I would not use in connection with that news. In fact…
Keep The Faith. ‘til Tomorrow.























A pretty pathetic performance on Saturday, for sure.
One thing i would question though, is Arsene’s comments about the team ‘giving everything’.
Well from where i was sitting on Saturday, that was not apparent.
We showed no urgency,no desire, no commitment and no drive.
Now maybe the players bemoan tiredness – but Boro had a game midweek – and we had a week off!!!
I feel bitter about a lack of effort, when we collectively pay (with our season tickets) for these guys to live an amazing lifestyle.
The least we as fans deserve is 100% commitment from the team, and im sorry, but in my opinion – that was lacking big time on saturday.
By: Matt on March 17, 2008
at 10:30 am
Matt,
Did you watch the game at all? While the result was disappointing, to accuse the squad to be lacking commitment is grossly unfair.
By: william on March 17, 2008
at 10:36 am
barca want eboue ? lets make a deal !
this must be some early april fools joke !
maybe they want him for his domestic scoring record ?
But in all seriousness ive looked through Man U’s fixtures they still could stumble .. liverpoo this weekend and i would fancy that liverpool can get something from this game !
Providing we get RVP back into some form we could easily draw or even win against chevski , with all there problems off the pitch it might just turn the game into our favor …
like i said yesterday and yogi said today, the idea is to score more than our opponents ! it would be stupid to consider we go the whole season without conceding .But we need to score ! and there lays the problem !
Walcott needs to feed RVP .. both upfront !
lets pray arsene grows a set and confines ade to the bench ! it might be good for him too ! the last time ade looked confident was against newcastle !
its too long for arsene to blindly keep faith in the man and keep giving him another chance !!!
vote him off the island !
By: ethan_goon on March 17, 2008
at 10:37 am
yes are you in arsenal disney land matt ?
the team pushed more than ive ever seen them push
for a LONGGGG time ! watch the game again especially the 2nd half ! it hardly left the middlesboro goal mouth ! cesc hit the post at the 73 minute mark and at the half we had 5 shots on target to boros 1 !
(which was a goal ) from a former arsenal player !
It was a good counter attack and you cannot blame our defense for the hiccup, we needed to score 3 or 4 down the other end .. but with our poor striker options and the aussie goalies performance it was always going to be tough to break them down ! Also RVP needs someone to pass it about a bit .. ade and RVP is a match made in hell !
By: ethan_goon on March 17, 2008
at 10:44 am
YW:
Bang on!
“The key aspect for me of recent games has been the inability to break down stubborn resistance”
The inavailability of RVP, Eduardo and Rosicky has harmed us. They were to be key sources of goals.
Unfortunately Bendtner and Theo do not yet have a fully developed game to provide the same threat consistently.
Ethan_goon: Please continue the positive note, ManU can still tumble. That is the message that should be filling the airwaves, internet and all.
ManU sent out a similar kind of message when we were on top.
By: william on March 17, 2008
at 10:45 am
ethan_goon!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
POSITIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ok mate!
By: william on March 17, 2008
at 10:46 am
75percent of the ball and only nine shots of which five were in the last ten mins does not say a lot we need to attack and shoot from the first min why do we not start attacking un il the other team scores passing the ball across the back for the first 15mins does not put the other team under pressure Wenger should sit at a higher level and see the pattern of play maybe then he would be able to alter it when needed and use his subs properly 3 years without a trophy and maybe another three does Arsene really know
By: jason on March 17, 2008
at 10:53 am
follow on
all our players should be banned from opening their mouths before all games like sagna today and adebayor last week win the games win a trophy and then give us bragging rights until then please keep quite
By: jason on March 17, 2008
at 10:58 am
jason,
I agree with some of your sentiments.. On hindsight in those games maybe what was needed was a gong-ho approach. We can still do it… no one should imagine the season is over yet!
By: william on March 17, 2008
at 10:59 am
good man william,
By: jason on March 17, 2008
at 11:01 am
Thanks for coming up with another interesting read, YW. Motivation must be difficult for you too with this indifferent league form.
William is totally right, Matt.
From where I was it certainly wasn’t lack of effort. We are lacking that spark to open up these teams & the breaks are not going our way. RVP was obviously rusty, which didn’t help, but we had to play him.
At this stage of the season it is often a matter of getting the bounce of the ball at the right time & certainly taking our opportunities, when they arise. That is something we didn’t do on Saturday.
There is obviously more chance of defeat at Chelsea & Man U but at least they will come at us, so the play is more open giving us an equal opportunity to win those games.
Fortunately in the run in most teams, Derby apart maybe, are going to need the win for various reasons, so lets hope that was the last opposition to ‘park the bus’.
I feel a draw at Chelsea, would not be a disaster, but then we have to win the remaining matches.
Possible but very unlikely, in my opinion.
This team has done us proud & only the ignorant glory hunter won’t appreciate that.
By: Flint McCullough on March 17, 2008
at 11:02 am
So Yogi .. where is the numero uno shout 2day then??
sounds rather like numero due .. yes Yogi .. and very soon Numero tres .. and so and so fo(u)rth
at least Everton lost on the weekend!!
so we should grab the last CL place, unless ..
our last two home games were the worst I have seen in a long time.. nothing ..absolutely nothing in the tank .. neither imapgination nor energy .. zero .. can you remember one thing that Ade managed in the 2nd half??
I strongly disagree with what you write this morning .. the problem is not motivation and its not Gallas/Wenger etc .. it runs a lot deeper .. and its called the lack of depth in quality players in our squad
I’ll try and keep it non contentious as ethan can play that role..
i wrote not so long ago that Hleb is a luxury player..he never scores and he also plays very few decisive passes as his final ball often lets him down..but he is the only guy that can dribble and pass a player with speed and technique
then look at Eboue .. he is also a non goalscorer
well this leaves us with our 2 wide offensive midfield players offering close to zero goal threats
thats not good enough!! simple as that
if we were to get a good bid from Barca for Hleb, we should entertain it ..
Cesc is 20 and should not play every game .. you can feel that if he gets cornered in a game now, he cant find the extra gear anymore as he could in the first half of the season..thats normal .. he is picking his games now ..
we bought Sagna and he has been an excellent performer .. and this underlines that it helps to strenghten a squad with 24/25 years old established pros
I find the Adebayor debate frankly very childish .. the guy has done very well for us this season..he is a talented player, but he is also only 23 and its his first league run in and therefore he shows nerves..nothing unusual there..he has been our only goal threat this season and this is the very nature of our problem..the guy is supposed to carry the team by himself
its useless to compare him to Torres/Ronaldo etc .. Ronaldo is at this juncture head and shoulders above Torres/Ade ..
the two big missing points in Ade’s game is his passing and his shooting .. both are woeful, but he will improve .. again a reinforcement is needed
so we need a quality creative midfield player alongside Cesc, a top class striker and a wide player .. defensively we are ok
but to compare this team to the invincibles is non sense
show me the equivalent of a TH14 .. the best player ever in the EPL, DB10 .. one of the finest most elegant forwards..Bobby who until he injured his knee was the finest winger/midfielder I had seen in a long time and finally PV4 who was in his prime the best midfielder in the EPL .. there is nobody near these boys these days in our squad ..
even 2day you can argue that a Bobby would have scored twice as many goals as Hleb by playing half the games .. why not keep him??
surely he would have accepted a less prominent role and his body wouldnt have taken it anyway
and then Rosicky .. the combined Hleb/Rosicky substitution trade isnt half as good as Pires on its own .. and why pay stupid money for Rosicky anyway instead of keeping Bobby
there seems to be a lot of people mismanagement in the club right now
look at Flamini .. why is he not signing his contract??
what about Diarra??
AW cornered himself again on this one
AW is doing everything by its own rules, but he has taken on too much for himself
dont forget that the visionary guy who brought AW to the club was David Dein
and we miss him today .. Dein was the only guy at the club that could offer a strategic vision apart from Wenger .. all the other blokes are just admin personnel
AW cannot decide unilaterally about where the club should go??
this is not Monaco
We are the most expensive club to support in the world
our corporate comms is spinning us as a top club
we NEED RESULTS therefore
we are not a feeding kindergarten club
we can afford to bring a couple of players through at the same time, but not an entire train coach
we are fooling the young players .. its not fair on them either..we dont give them enough playing time for them to progress
Walcott is one guy we should bring on .. but not Diaby/walcott/Bendtner/Denilson//Traore all in one go.. etc .. thats too much .. plus the next generation .. and the one after
the scary thing is the we play 2 English sides on our potential way to the CL final .. both will know how to corner us and will give us no space to play
gloom it is indeed!!
and if AW doesnt buy any players for next season and still not wins any trophies, then questions should be asked whether at this juncture of the club’s life, he is the man required to take the club to the level where it wants to be and pretends to be!!
By: BB on March 17, 2008
at 11:06 am
I agree with Jason about all ‘the mouth’.
Deeds are better than words but we have to remember that these blokes have mikes stuck under their noses, so they are expected to say something positive.
Good to see the positive attitude e_g.
By: Flint McCullough on March 17, 2008
at 11:09 am
The only time we really attacked them in the game was the last ten minutes!!!
Any of you who where there, like i was thank you William and Ethan,cannot for one minute say we showed any urgency in attacking Boro.
Every time we go the ball we slowed the play down and allowed them to get 11 behind the ball.
The only time we showed any real effort was once we had equalised – which was too little too late.
Im sorry – but if any of you think this was a performance of total commitment by our boys, then you are blinded by loyalty.
By: Matt on March 17, 2008
at 11:16 am
I think we should remeber both Man Utd and Chelsea didn’t set the world on fire on Saturday.
The team tried hard enough and got an equaliser they are just carrying too many players at the moment Adebayor seems to have let the adulation get to his head and completely forgotten how to trap the ball, Hleb is taking one too many passes. Walcott gave us a welcome directness absent before but as against AV, Wigan and Birmingham (and for 80 mins in the San Siro) the team failed to convert chances. This is last season revisited.
Combined with another appalling refereeing performance this season has fallen apart. It starts to make you wonder what real progress has been made this season as again we have shown an inability to beat teams from the bottom half of the league.
But at least the stadium was still 80% full when we got the equaliser a vast improvement on the empty seats during at the Villa Game.
By: Vivb on March 17, 2008
at 11:19 am
Wow!!!
Bye guys this blog is not for me anymore..I might as well be on another clubs blog.
By: william on March 17, 2008
at 11:26 am
will
im not saying it to gain brownie points .
i think liverpool in recent times have gained some self belief ,raffa has stopped rotating and that has settled his team. ! with torres firing i certainly think that liverpool can get something from old trafford . I also think chelsea can stumble as they did in the FA cup and CC … the only question is our form !?
It will be won or lost in the lineup arsene puts forward on match day . Vital inclusions would be RVP from start to finish , with bendtner or someone who can give and go with RVP . Dudu would have been perfect , likewise a certain other player could spell disaster !
By: ethan_goon on March 17, 2008
at 11:28 am
Simple answer to all that BB is -
How come we have managed to score 58 goals, 1 less than the highest scorers Man U ?
If we score 15 goals in the remaining 8 games we shall equal the Invincibles. A ratio of 1.875 goals per game. To date we are scoring at a ratio of 1.93. Compares quite well eh ?
All the top clubs appear to be as poor as us, in spite of all the money they have spent.
A season is always a mixed bag in terms of the extent of the great performances & entertainment you get. Hanson actually got it right on motd about the variation in a League winning team’s levels of performance during the season.
This PL is bloody hard to win. It always was but now there there is no room for error at all.
It has been a fantastic achievement to still be involved.
By: Flint McCullough on March 17, 2008
at 11:34 am
matt you think im blinded by loyalty ?
Yes they crowded the box , and that was always going to happen with them scoring first .
ive seen the game 3 times now and we had ample chances to score ! AMPLE !!!!
but some certain strikers never looked like using there so called superiority ! and the aussie goal keeper pulled off some rippers also! Every time ade got the ball he did NOTHING ! if he shot even 30% of the time our shot ratio would have been far different ! He didnt just fail to shot , he coughed up possession so uncannily that you start to think he’s giving it away on purpose ! You have RVP getting into good positions only to be tranquilized by his parnter hoggin the ball until he spilt possession . you cannot fault flamini and even cesc played well , hleb was on the quiet side
but sagna and clichy kept pushing forward ..
only to be undone in the final 3rd !
by poor finishing ….
By: ethan_goon on March 17, 2008
at 11:37 am
Yogi is providing a great read William.
We need people like you or the comments will be more & more ‘Talk Shite’, which I gave up on several years ago.
Football is all about having the confidence to be able to do what you want to. We are not on top form at the moment & Villa & M’boro actually played very well against us.
We seem to expect these teams to roll over. It is a compliment to our football that they get so many players behind the ball.
By: Flint McCullough on March 17, 2008
at 11:48 am
BB
I strongly disagree with what you write this morning .. the problem is not motivation and its not Gallas/Wenger etc .. it runs a lot deeper .. and its called the lack of depth in quality players in our squad
you were giving me grief for saying precisely what you are saying now !!!
you find the ade debate quiet childish ! then you go and stick the knives in too !@
give me a break !
BB your a sad little man !
at least stand behind your convictions ..
you are like the Cheshire cat !
I gave all you plonkers a serve ! because i saw ade wasnt QUALITY 4 months ago ! but whilst he’s in his purple patch you want to burn me alive ! abuse the living #### out of me !! telling me he’s the new TH14 ! you have got center stage now boyo ! I stated we need some war chest reinforcements and get burned alive for that too !
we might of picked up silverware if we did !
I just want this club to succeed ,because we are the only team in the EPL to see-saw up and down like this ! for such a prolonged period of time! Arsene is a man who is obsessed to build a team
macgyver style ! from 3 paint tins 2 rusty nails and a 40 gallon drum !
We need some serious international STARS to hold the fabric of this team together ! We have done well this year but we certainly cannot compete and WIN all cups and the EPL ! , also we can easily slip down to 3rd or even 4th before the end of the season running on this form !… so dont tell me we have achieved anything greater than last season !
By: ethan_goon on March 17, 2008
at 12:02 pm
What we really needed on Saturday was to score an early goal to raise confidence and let us play the match to our gameplan not there’s. We scored the goal and everyone knows what happened next.
I know that decisions (Supposedly) even themselves out over the course of a season but we have been badly affected by 2 incorrect, result changing decisions recently – the penalty at Bimingham and Ade’s goal on Saturday.
What we really needed was a little bit of luck.
Let’s just hope that that luck comes on Sunday. Liverpool beat Man U and we win might just give us a boost!
By: Marc on March 17, 2008
at 12:22 pm
marc
i saw an interview with a ref on ‘football upclose’ a little while back , quite interesting .He stated his stance on giving penalties ! and it was that he would prefer to hold off on giving penalties at the drop of a hat , as he didnt want to influence the game , and make his mark on the game , he would rather players create the clear cut advantages from free flowing play,
he stated he would only give penalties/free kicks if he really had too and that the player was truly obstructed unfairly ..
ade was offside so often last game it was annoying ! no wonder our on target count was down . add up all the times possession was lost and off sides and not passing off when he should of done to RVP and there is the difference in the game being a draw to a win !!!
do the math ..
a world class striker wouldnt keep making those fundamental errors ! All the other team members are pulling there weight even eboue had a ok game !
ade needs to go back to basics, footballing 101
or it will cost us this season !
CMON RVP !!!
By: ethan_goon on March 17, 2008
at 12:41 pm
For me the biggest problem these days by far is going forward. Hleb has lost the plot. I don’t know why, but he is always losing possession and seems to have lost his ability to beat players consistently. Adebayor seems to not have the skills necessary for the passing game. He is good in the air, and his speed is good when trying to outrun his opponents, but his general skill level is lacking when we try to pass the ball to foot through the middle, as we have been predominantly doing lately. Bendtner has similar problems. Theo is fantastic when coming on as a sub, but can’t reproduce his effectiveness when he starts a game. Diaby’s approach to beating players of simply trying to run through them doesn’t seem do have worked since Autumn. In general the approach work hasn’t used enough width, especially evident in the Wigan game. The loss of Rotziky has been been more of a loss than I had expected. Eboue doesn’t seem to get free and charge down the wings as much as a right half as he did as a right back. I hate his fouling and diving. I think Fabregas and Flamini have been outstanding and are the reasons why Arsenal are still where they are. The defense and keeper have been decent, in particular Gallas and the outstanding Clichy. Sagna has also been good, Toure has been a disappointment this year (in defense). My only criticism of the defense is that sometimes on crosses they are caught ball watching too much rather than player watching. By keeping close and in the way of forwards will stop them from making powerful goal attempts from crosses, even if they win the ball – this doesn’t always happen, especially from corners.
By: Simonster on March 17, 2008
at 12:41 pm
Hello all,
I have been reading through Arsenal Blogs for a while now and have been waiting to find one that offered an unbiased opinion and was not fully of club patriots shouting ‘Arsen Knows’. This seems one seems down to earth and hype free site so good stuff! Funny, when I read someone turn around and say they are leaving the blog ‘William’ because it sounds like another clubs blog, I just think we should be realistic and not always big up our team just because we support them, we should be objective and sometimes that is not nice when you are passionate about something, but essential in both good and bad times when supporting a football team.
Every Arsenal fan is hugely disappointed at the moment watching our team potentially throw away the title, 5 points clear and here we are a month later in a rut, with shots on goal decreasing and our play looking tired and subdued.
There is an argument I am hearing about it is an amazing season to be here, and look what was expected at the beginning of the season. That to me doesn’t hold up, we were crowned as one of the richest clubs in the world, we have not spent money and with our frugal transfer policy we have got to where we are this season. That is a great achievement, but something we have to expect. A team like Arsenal needs to have faith in what is going on and all the concerns voiced at the beginning of the season about not investing the money in the team is now starting to show. Arsenal fans should go into a season expecting to win, we have not had that pleasure over the last few seasons, we have not thought we can challenge. Why not? Why have we settled for this transition spiel? We must be out of the transition, sitting top of the table for the season but has it worked?
Doubting the commitment is absurd, these players have the commitment and all they want is to win. Their confidence is shot at the moment but we don’t have the options to add/remove a few players, spice it up and get back to winning ways again. We have to put out the same team each week, all of whom look like they know they are throwing it all away, but can’t do anything about it. The natural flow is not there, we are forcing our syle.
Both Ade and Fab have lacked composure in front of goal the last couple of weeks, composure in my eyes is purely confidence at this level. Yes, one of us mortals may never actually have composure in front of goal but players of this level when blessed with such an armoury of skill have it is built into their genes….except when confidence is low.
Wenger doesn’t have the depth to bring on a player that truly believes a good performance will keep him in the team. Theo keeps coming on and making a good impact recently, but he knows Eboue will be back there next week and he is an ‘impact player’ why can’t he feel he is playing for a start. Other than that who do we have who thinks, this could be a chance to start. We only have fringe players in the background, in their youth gaining experience in our squad. I don’t believe in a lot of our youngsters coming through, Djourou, Song, Denilson ”could” be amazing in the future, but they are not walcott, rooney, ronaldo are they? They are not wonder kids at the moment and certainly can’t compare to the depths of Man U when we look at Anderson, Nani, Carrick etc. Our squad is weak, our team, when fully fit is awesome, but the squad is weak. It has been for a couple of seasons now and unfortunately you don’t win the league in England with out a core of experience, grit, mental strength and depth. We have everything other than depth. That is why being an Arsenal fan in the transfer time is so frustrating. We have it all, and we have the money to add this final piece of the jigsaw. For some reason people at Arsenal can’t see it!
Now I am not giving up on the season and if we do win it I will still say the same. I am just worried that the reason Man U always finish so strong is because of their depth!
I would love to be proved wrong….
By: Marcus on March 17, 2008
at 12:44 pm
wow..its a arsenal bashing forum now….
i just hope the guys pick themselves up for the last stretch of games and win it for themselves….guys like flamini, cesc, sagna(considering he played even after losing his brother..he is the player of the season for us),clichy has been superb ..al of them have given their best and more….cant blame these kids….dunno if i am going to blame arsene for ever…coz after all..we had a few turmoils as well…TH leaving after Dein, takeover issues…most importantly the finances to consider after the new stadium…considering we r in transition…..it wud be heartening to win this year…i just hope the boys forget the pressure and play to enjoy….and think less of the title now….we know its not entirely upto us now to win it…sry guys for any bash up from my side…i think its just not fair enf…
By: gooooooooner on March 17, 2008
at 12:53 pm
We need some serious international STARS to hold the fabric of this team together !
ehhhhhh – FABREGAS
ehhhhhh – GALLAS
ehhhhhh – TOURE
It’s time for people to get a grip. I’ve been reading a lot of bullshit on these blogs recently (this isn’t aimed the blogger). Yeah we’ve had a bad few weeks domestically (don’t forget the Champions League), but it doesn’t mean that wenger is suddenly a shite manager and the players aren’t good enough anymore. We were pretty unlucky in a few of those games and given the circumstances in the birmingham (eduardo + peno decision), Wigan (pitch) and Boro (disallowed goal) games I think those draws aren’t exactly the players fault. We’re three points (potentially) behind the leaders with eight games left including a game against the leaders. Their fixture list for the run-in is as tough as ours. Frankly, I fancy our chances. If we win at the bridge next week every fan will fancy our chances.
Finally, i’m sick of hearing this crap about season-ticket holders blah blah blah…… we want trophies…..we pay good money…..blah blah blah.
Think of all the season-ticket holders up and down the country (e.g. Newcastle fans) who go to every game for what? They haven’t won fuck all. But they go because they care and they don’t stop going because they’re not winning.
Think of our mates down the road at the lane. Packed house (however small and dingy a house, it’s still packed) every night. For what? a league cup every 10 years? But they still go.
So shut-up and support your fucking team! We’re still in the League and the Champions League, unlike the spuds who’s season is over.
By: Irish Gooner on March 17, 2008
at 12:55 pm
ethan .. my dear .. I have always advocated the need to buy further players .. since last summer in fact ..
not that I care much about you backing me up .. but facts are facts
indeed I have always felt that our squad needed reinforcements in the light of the Sagna one .. established honest pros used to the day in day out life in football with its ups and downs
where we differ is on Ade .. nobody should pretend that we another TH14 in him .. no .. but at 23 and after 1 1/2 seasons at AFC, he is showing tremendous potential
I will definitely vote for Ade as AFC’s player of the year..but he cannot and should not be relied upon to solve all our problems .. fact is we dont have enough goal scorers in our team ..
thats the price we are paying now ..
Hleb/Eboue/Rosicky dont score enough
not enough diversity
btw ethan .. whenever Bendtner played upfront from the start, he was utter shiit
I also like RVP, but he cannot be relied upon from a health point of view and he might just be a bit short to come back in order to be decisive this season .. but I reckon he’ll come good in the European Championship for the Dutch .. how great is that then??
By: BB on March 17, 2008
at 1:27 pm
AW has already said he will not be busy in the summer transfer window (either to motivate his players or for real) and that is not impressive to me….and I live far away in Africa to influence anything but why can’t you guys up there in the UK do sth to show our displeasure at such statements? How do we make the club know what we want? Does AW for example read these fora to know what we need? Any ways you can show the club what we need, like banners in the stands during games? Or are we too smart to do such kind of things? O my Arsenal……!
By: KukayaGunner on March 17, 2008
at 1:27 pm
We will just have to keep the faith and keep going..i think we have been unlucky..with injuries and some decisions..also chelsea and manutd have been lucky in league..
i think we will beat chelsea and get the title..i have this feeling for long time now..
nonetheless..3 points is not that great a difference..anyone cud be no 1 at the end of season or number 3rd…the difference wont be much..keep ur heart strong..
By: adc on March 17, 2008
at 1:37 pm
Have you noticed that the big 4 do not have their own way now days? It is not easy to beat the lower teams and even Chelsea and ManU are just scraping through (aka the ManU Derby game last week). This is because the managers and clubs are reading from the same hymn book now – as far as training, fitness regime, developing strategies for beating your opponents etc. They are also employing more foreigners to up the technical level. Yes, they don’t have the financial muscle yet to compete for the big names but look at Villa and to a certain extent Everton. They have done exceedingly well and do not rely on long balls and kicking your opposition down. Ok, there are still exceptions to this like Bolton.
What I am coming to is that the game is changing, tactics are changing and but I don’t think AW is adapting to this. Our approach is very one-dimensional – however skilful and entertaining it may be.
Look for instance at our corners and free kicks. Cesc is almost always the taker (during RvP’s absence) and I think the success rate is less than 3%? Don’t we have coaching on this aspect? How can other teams beat us in this?
I also cannot understand AW’s lack of transfer activity. Forget about Et’o’ Kaka etc – surely there are other gems like Sagna who are experienced and can fit in straight away? By all means develop the youngsters by giving them sub appearances and training – but not at the expense of losing silverware. I still cannot get over facing ManU for the FA cup with Traore and Hoyte on the flanks.
AW has got more footballing nous on his finger that I have all over but sometimes I wonder whether he is too set in his ways.
By: daokta on March 17, 2008
at 1:42 pm
There are some very good posts on this blog, and I think BB has got it spot on!
I always felt that our main downfall would be the depth of the squad over the full course of the season. I could understand Arsene’s decision not bringing in established players last summer if he wanted to build a team. However, having been top of the premiership by new year, I think Arsene should have strengthened the squad to
get us right to the very end. But he didn’t…
Under Arsdene, we have always had problems with sustaining the league challenge in the second half of the season. It happens almost every season; and frustratingly, Arsene never learns from it. Last season, we played the kids in the c.c final against chelsea and lost; and this season we played the kids again in big c.c and f.a cup games. Why do we keep playing such weakened teams against clubs like Man U and Chelsea. Wenger never seems to want to listen or learn.
For those of you taking the piss at Ade. How can you blame a player who has scored 23 goals so far this season. What do you want him to do..score in every game? Hleb has scored something like 2 prem goals all season, Eboue has scored none. We have had very little contribution from our second strikers (RVP, Eduardo and Bertnder) for various reasons. If Ade or Fab doen not score, then nobody scores.
I think Arsene really needs to think this one through. We cannot have wingers like Hleb and especially Ebou who play regularly and dont score any goals. In my opinion, I think Eboue should be returned to his full back position (or as a sub for Sagna). And why did we sell Diarra??? Maybe Diaby can fill in there, so we’ll wait and see
We have a good team at the moment, but not a good squad. Whatever happens this season, I hope Arsene learns that we definitely need goalscorers for next season ie. a striker with a proven record of goalscoring. In my opinion, we create enough chances through the middle so that’s fine along with the defence; but the wings and forward line need a real boost boost.
Benzema, Berbatov or Torres plus a very good winger…no matter the cost! We are a big club and we need big players!
By: gilberto silva on March 17, 2008
at 1:42 pm
marcus is absolutly right when he asks why are we so apprecative that we are still in the title race. we are the 5th richest club in the world, i do not expect us to win the league but i certainly expect us to be in the race with 20% of the season left.
By: dan on March 17, 2008
at 1:50 pm
Re players talking up our chances before games, what do you expect them to say? Also, Sagna’s comments were originally made after the Milan game and are now being quoted out of context. Gallas’ comments are from the match day programme and again a spin is being put on them to suit certain agendas.
Being disappointed is one thing, but completely rubbishing the same players who have got us this far is totally unfair and unreasonable. The same people who are shouting the loudest about how crap we are, will also be basking in undeserved glory when we win something. You should earn the right to that glory by supporting the team when they need us the most. It’s easy to back the team when we’re winning but when times are hard some of you are really showing your true colours.
By: Passenal on March 17, 2008
at 1:50 pm
I hear a lot of a lack of depth in our squad. Can one of the peopel who say this always, explain to me how that works? What observable fact points to this lack of depth vis a vis our rivals? Eagerly anticipating a reply. Thanks!
By: Ole Gunner on March 17, 2008
at 1:59 pm
I’ve never been one to question the lack of depth in our squad, however, i’ve started questioning lately. Take Hleb’s apparent dip in form, there’s no-one there to give him a rest, in turn there’s no one there to keep him on his toes… that pretty much goes through the entire team at the moment what with Eduardo being injured & RVP getting to grips with life in the first team.
By: Rev on March 17, 2008
at 2:27 pm
I just think our key players (Hleb, Cesc and Ade) look totally knackered and have done for a while. Milan was a total one off. they gave everything that night and even that game has taken its toll on the following games. I just dont know how much these players have got left to give. at the moment its all graft but little craft, very much like last season at times.
By: gazzap on March 17, 2008
at 2:27 pm
But don’t get me wrong, i didn’t for one minute think we’d win the prem this year, i’ve always said it’d ours next year, if anything i’m chuffed to bits with the team this season, we’ve come on leaps & bounds, this time last season we were struggling to qualify for the champions league… Good times will be here again.
By: Rev on March 17, 2008
at 2:30 pm
We’ve also missed Eduardo’s pace & movement, he was a real handful, i don’t think we appreciated the space he created for Cesc & Hleb before his injury, he draged defenders all over the show – Brendter is that kind of player, Theo doesn’t have that kind of experience…
By: Rev on March 17, 2008
at 2:33 pm
But Rev, I agree Hleb looks knackered but if Diaby and Rosicky weren’t injured, they’re more than capable of playing and help beat Boro aren’t they?
I mean if Aliadiere who didnt make it here could come back and knock us, maybe the players we have kept would be capable of doing the same.
Is it really squad depth we lack or luck with injuries?
By: Ole Gunner on March 17, 2008
at 2:34 pm
i meant to say Brendtner isn’t that kind of player…
By: Rev on March 17, 2008
at 2:35 pm
I think we’ve got one too many sick notes in our team… you’re absolutely right thought, bad luck with injuries.
By: Rev on March 17, 2008
at 2:36 pm
The last three season seems to have been lost to injuries really. Last year, the main difference was missing Gallas, Ljungberg, Henry and RVP. This year RVP. Two seasons ago Pires, Ljungberg, Campbell, Cole, Clichy, etc etc.
Why do we seem to have more injuries than other teams?
By: Ole Gunner on March 17, 2008
at 2:43 pm
I agree… I think losing Eduardo has impacted the team as much as RVP… We didn’t fully appreciate what he was doing, he was basically opening channels for Hleb & Cesc to run into, now he’s gone Hleb especially is running into brick walls… hopefully RVP can remedy the situation if he can stay fit…
By: Rev on March 17, 2008
at 2:49 pm
ole, depth of squad means being able to rotate your players as you please without having a material affect on the team. we simply do not have that. ferguson can interchange scholes, hargreaves, anderson, carrick, nani, ronaldo, giggs without having a huge impact. we can not and wenger never does that. as i asked a few weeks ago, for anyone to give me an example in the past few years of a time when wenger dropped / or didn’t play one of the first choice players (not resting in cup games he doen’t care about!!!!) but actually leaving them out and no one could give me an example. we can not not play fab/ flam and play denislon / or gilberto, or the full backs or the wingers/forwards. the players to come in ie hoyte, traore, diaby, denislon, gilberto, djouru etc are all no WHERE nera as good as the 1st team. this is why the same players play all the time and look utterly shagged now. there can be no surprise that they have run out of steam having played so much and done so well up until now.
it was all completely obvious and must be addressed for next year. howver i do not hold my breath on that one.
By: dan on March 17, 2008
at 3:22 pm
I disagree, i think you just need look at Liverpool for a bad example of a big squad… Man U can afford to pay all those big wage packets, i’m not sure Arsenal can at the moment, and unlike Spurs our club runs within it’s means… We’ve been extremely unlucky with injuries this season, i mean, how often have we been able to field our strongest team?
By: Rev on March 17, 2008
at 3:31 pm
I also think you’re seriously underestimating the ability of our younger players, who are going from strength to strength.
By: Rev on March 17, 2008
at 3:33 pm
Dan I am in complete agreement with you, Man U and Chavski have without fail, nearly two full international teams they can send out. Now they have their core way of playing but with a depth in their squad they can both rotate players and of equal importance have the ability to change their tactics, it is not just resting players, it is the ability to change the style of play. Using different players for different situations. We dont do that.
Ole Gunner – Your eagerly awaited reply is when Man U rested Ronaldo and Rooney in their AWAY premiership match against Fulham this season and won 3-0.
Quote:
“We switched the team around,” the Old Trafford chief said. “It was good that we could rest Ronaldo, Rooney and one or two others with the Lyon game coming up.
“You have to have faith in the squad and they came and showed what they can do which was very pleasing.
That is depth in a squad. We dont have that!!Would we be able to rest Fab and Ade and a couple of others in an away game, or more importantly would we have the FAITH to do so. If we dont have that faith, then why not. We should have a squad we have faith in not just a team! The spanking against Man U and Trottenham in the cups show our strength outside of the team.
Now please dont get me wrong, I am not slating the team or the manager, we have been amazing this season and Wenger up until this point has proved to the world you dont need to spend millions and millions to get the results, but I have an awful feeling this poor run of form is going to show that you do need to spend something!!
By: Marcus on March 17, 2008
at 3:45 pm
Rev With the highest ticket prices we can afford to pay high wages but it seems Flamini wants 80k and thats above our salary cap why cant we give him the 50k plus a big signing bonus to replace him must cost 10 million. Dan is right our second sting players are just not good enough especially Djouru, Traore, and Diably if he plays on the wing. Hleb is not a winger so thats another problem, Rosicky is another Freddie but even worse because he has to play a full season and never will. We need a winger AW said he would buy no one last year and Sagna and Eduardo were cheap gems, now he needs to do the same, and get a winger and a striker, Eduardo will not be back to his prime for the whole of next season
By: solgooner on March 17, 2008
at 3:47 pm
Rev which of our young players is going from strength to strength except Song there is no one. TRaore, Djouru, Ebuoe have gone backwards.
By: solgooner on March 17, 2008
at 3:48 pm
Eduardo was a cheap gem but dont forget Wenger admitted he only bought Eduardo out of reaction to Henry leaving. The greatest player to grace the Premier League and we replace him with a cheap gem.
I think Eduardo is an amzing find and what happened to him is outrageous, but with our team, just think what someone like Torres would have done! OHH MY CHAT.
By: Marcus on March 17, 2008
at 3:52 pm
Agree solgooner, I dont think we have any young ’starts’ pushing through anymore. Eduardo was and I still believe Walcott will be amazing. But Djourou, Song,Traore……Not a chance….they are a differnt class. They should not be in the squad. That is our lack of depth!
By: Marcus on March 17, 2008
at 3:55 pm
Marcus you are wrong about Song at the ANC he made Essien look ordinary and he can play at CB as well. He is first team material as we wil see in the CL when we need rotation.
As we couldnt get Torres due to AW being scared of Spanish players after Reyes fiasco lets hope there someone in France or Germant thats available as they settle in immediately. AW must know that RVP and Rosicky are sick puppies that can only play half a seasons games
By: solgooner on March 17, 2008
at 4:05 pm
After a couple of days of reflection it seems to me that many of the negative comments on this site and in the media are only commensurate with the weight of expectation of the potential of the team.
If we were to sit back and look at where we are in terms of the top 10 in Europe, at the very least we can say we are in the top 5. The media hype and sometimes our own hype has propelled us above that and that’s where the negative backlash comes in; as if to say, you are not yet a Barcelona, Manchester United.
However, it seems to me that as an Arsenal fan growing up with the realisation that we were never really a top tier European, or even domestic side (with the exception of 1971, 1989, 1991), Arsene Wenger has done such an incredible job that we now demand to be in the top 3. Where, I ask anybody, are the likes of Bayern Munich, Real Madrid in European football terms today? nowhere is the answer. We really have to pinch ourselves at the reality that we are now a mainstay in the european elite.
As for some of the comments demanding big signings, remember 2 things; we have been unlucky with injures; 2 of our best flair players, Rosicky and Van Persie have been injured for most of the season. Arguably Van Persie is our best striker, even player – how would Man Utd have coped without Rooney or Ronaldo ? Secondly, Wenger is not just a star maker, but Arsenal with Wenger is a star factory. We don’t need to sign overbloated and overrated players. The criticisms of Traore and Hoyte may have some justification, but Arsenal players have a habit of turning out to be automatic choices when they were previously criticised for being only squad worthy in the past e.g. Flamini, Alumunia, Adebayor.
By: Phil on March 17, 2008
at 4:07 pm
Wenger said we have a strong midfield with depth thats not true, Gilberto is passed it, Rosicky is a cripple, Diably is also injury prone, and MANU have Nani, Anderson , Hargreaves, Carrick , to roate with Scholes and Giggs, plus Ronaldo who is a goal scoring winger something we lack.
By: solgooner on March 17, 2008
at 4:09 pm
dudu at 8 million frm croatian league is not cheap…apt!!!!!! and btw wenger was banking heavily on him to create space and goals alike….unlucky wenger…dint buy players then so now its a bit of a bother to him…2-0 to arsenal at the bridge anyone??
..am still hopefull of a comebak
By: rohan on March 17, 2008
at 4:15 pm
Our biggest problem is putting the ball in the net. Our three best pure shooters are RVP, Eduardo, and Rosicky.
It doesn’t have to be that complicated. We are a good team in a bad patch. Some calls have gone against us, some teams have played their best against us, and we’ve had a huge run of injuries. Confidence is down, leading to an unwillingness to attack. This is NOT lack of effort!
Yogi says “by the time kick-off comes at Stamford Bridge, I fully expect United to be six points clear,” which leads me to believe that he hasn’t been watching ManU OR Liverpool play in the league for the last month. Please everyone recall that none of the top 3 are playing well right now.
By: nolagunner on March 17, 2008
at 4:16 pm
we have too many young players on our books ..
again and as i have done in the past, I would refer to Barcelona .. they are trying to push two players through at the same time .. Bojan and Giovanni
thats enough ..
we push or think that we can push a truck load of young players through
but its not realistic
the guys are not being developed adequately because they can never play
their playing time is totally insufficient
a lot of these guys would be better off going somewhere else where they are given the chance to make it
at AFC, the ONLY player that was given the time to develop and the games and the patience was Cesc .. and guess who made it!!
its not the odd game a season that will turn Denilson/Diaby/Traore/Walcott into top players
Diarra realized it and fukked off asap
we are selling these guys a dummy
Platini is right .. we should stop poaching these guys and buy seasoned players .. thats where the standing of this club puts it now
in fact, it is indecent on AW’s behalf
we are a G14 club .. the most expensive one to support on top of it .. use this money and acknowledge that your position in the system is not to rip other clubs of their young players
let me tell you that if Diaby had stayed put with Auxerre, he would be a better player right now
Sagna was a top top buy .. AW knows that there are many other Sagnas around in this world
but he is obsessed!!
focus on one player in attack/midfield and defense and try and bring them through
look, we have Senderos and Djourou .. Senderos cant even play enough as when he gets 5 games under his belt, his perfs improve dramatically
when is Djourou gonna get his chance?? and Traore?
in midfield .. Diaby/Denilson/Song and we bought Diarra !!
upfront .. Walcott/Bendtner .. thats one too many .. and these guys are all deperate to play .. and need to as well
next year Vela will come .. he is getting good because he is playing .. and I forgot the guy who went to Sociedad on loan
its bloody ludicrous and it doesnt befit a club of this stature any more
we should have bought Ribery for 25MM Euros .. do you really think that 25MM Euros is too much for a player of his calibre??
he would have loved to play for us .. but no, we try and poach young guys whose career we then ruin
By: BB on March 17, 2008
at 4:20 pm
How often did we rest Vieira, Pires, Henry, Gilberto or the back 5 from the Invicibles?
Hleb has not been able to be rested because any logical replacements, Rosicky/Diaby/Denilson/Eduardo, have been injured.
We could rest Cesc but again injuries have prevented that. In fact our best hour was the Villa away game until Hleb got kicked off the park. Diarra & Flamini played brilliantly. Of course it is a shame Diarra didn’t have the patience but I think Song, could be at least as good long term.
We have not been able to play our best team even once this season.
Torres looks an excellent buy but he went to a Spanish manager & over the season Ade has more than matched him.
Which players have changed hands since last season, who could have radically changed our season for the better?
We cannot score goals yet we have only 1 fewer than United, etc. I ask again how can we really be as bad as so many are now painting it?
I am fed up with people rubbishing our players & the achievements of this season.
You lot, most of whom have never seen them in the flesh, cannot understand the quality we have coming through. You would rather throw away the baby with the bathwater.
Arsene is doing it the Arsenal way, building a great team to last for years & thank goodness for that.
By: Flint McCullough on March 17, 2008
at 4:23 pm
flint .. stop patronizing .. a lot of people who contribute go the games .. and the ones who dont should not be considered unworthy to give an opinion
I can think and make a judgement whether I go or dont to a game .. and I have been to most of them
its like the “i have been an Arsenal supporter for 50 years, so I know better” .. that doesnt make you one inch more knowlegeable as somebody else might have played football at a higher level and argue that he knows more because of that
I dont discard your opinion, albeit I am sure that you dont give a toss about mine, but rubbsihing people because they dont go to games is pathetic
and btw I have been to at least 80% of the games this season!!
By: BB on March 17, 2008
at 4:42 pm
Agree with Flint on this one. I’m amazed at how negative you all are, i didn’t for one minute expect to be top of the table for most of the season & mounting a serious chamions league challenge this year, yet here we are, giant steps when you consider last seasons over all performance.
In time, Arsenal will be able to buy like the Man U’s, Chelsea’s, Barca’s, Real Madrid’s of this world, (that said i hope they don’t ever need to!) because at the moment it doesn’t make any sense too… instead they’re nurturing some of the finest young talent in the world, and they’re being moulded into wearing Arsenal shirts – isn’t that exciting enough for you all? A philosephy of football running all the way through the club, from the kids to the senior players all playing the AW way, a style of football that every excites every football fan in the world – why jeapordize that by going out & buying a bunch of seasoned professionals just to win in the short term?
By: Rev on March 17, 2008
at 4:44 pm
We all know Wenger is more comfortable in buying unknown players or rough dimonds. How many players has he bought that were considered world class or superstars at the time of purchase. This is the man he is and he is not going to change now. We all have area’s of the team that we would like to see strengthened. Personally I think a pacy winger would be a major boost but this is talk for the summer not now.
And before anyone jumps down my throat, think how many top quality players are available in the transfer window.
We must also remember that during the summer we were down as no hopers who would struggle to get into europe.
Lets keep some perspective
By: Marc on March 17, 2008
at 4:45 pm
i for one am dead proud of this team and they’re only going to get better.
By: Rev on March 17, 2008
at 4:46 pm
I withdraw my commment on Song, maybe it is too early for me to make that comment, so I am withdrawing it.
Phil,
We may be ‘mainstay’ in the European elite but we have not won it yet! I have never heard anyone saying Flamini was a squad player who would never make it, he got us to the European cup final playing left back. I have always rated him.
Almunia is not a world class keeper, end of story. Our defense (despite a few errors) is world class and help Almunia dramatically.
But you are right Ade is one who a lot of people wrote off, me included actually. However he still has a lot to learn and is not as good as he could be. I dont think he is as good as people make him out to be. Even if he is we cant rely on him soley to bring us goals!
Fab was the scoring midfielder we dreamed of for the first 15 games of the season, now he has lost composure! Dont someone step in and rant about the goal he scored against Milan, their keeper should have saved that shot!
We need more goals from all over the park, that is out problem, despite people saying we have scored one less than Man U, they have only been from Ade and Fab (bar a few). Fab was on fire at the begining of the season and has dried up and now Ade is struggling! Where are they going to come from now? Our system relies on key goal scorers, not anyone in any posititon.
By: Marcus on March 17, 2008
at 4:50 pm
Marc……
Why were we down as no-hopers? I dont understand it?
I am not gratful of where we are, I expect a team under Wenger with the freedom he has and the financial backing to be challenging, I am not going to sit here and be thankful for getting a top 4 finish. I like many other fans want to win….not winning would be a disapointment for me this season. The last 2 seasons have been a MASSIVE disapointment!!
Manu U, Chavski and Pool’ fans would be disapointed if they do not win the league this season and so should Arsenal fans, where has this, we have done well this season with our youngsters chat coming from? We have not done well until we win the league?
By: Marcus on March 17, 2008
at 4:56 pm
Of course I am not saying that people, who don’t go to games, cannot have valuable opinions but I just find it unacceptable when it comes to rubbishing players they have barely seen. You just cannot get the full impression from the TV.
Yes we do need goals from all areas but it is a proven fact that we can score goals aplenty. At the moment the tap is not running as we want it but that can open up just as easily as it stopped.
Marcus, Flamini certainly was a player that was rubbished, as was Hleb, Song etc.
By: Flint McCullough on March 17, 2008
at 5:07 pm
Edelman__ “arsene! shall I tell the press how much money we have to spend”
Arsene– “that would be nice”
Edelman– “but please don’t take as long as last year to say you don’t need it or won’t spend it”
Arsene– “ok Keith”
overheard in the highbury restaurant 2 weeks ago
By: manny on March 17, 2008
at 5:20 pm
I don’t understand why we ignore facts.
This season not one player in our squad has gone through the season without missing at least 2 games to injury.
Is that not rotation? I simply don’t see how you could still be tops and extend your lead if you don’t have a strong squad.
You keep talking about how Man u can switch players but can somebody tell me how well they do without Rooney, Vidic, Ferdinand and Ronaldo. When was Ferdinand and Vidic rested. What was the result?
How many solid teams have we beaten this season with our second string. Answer, Staeua, Blackburn, Newcastle. And last season: Liverpool, Tottenham.
Why do you forget that? Are you saying Arsenal’s second string can’t beat Fulham 3-0?
Somebody needs to get real here.
By: Ole Gunner on March 17, 2008
at 5:23 pm
and flamini’s role cud have been played by diarra..and can be played by song…we can get thousands of players who block opp attacks mid way….but creativity and i wud also like to say..speed (we lost speed wen we moved from a smaller highbury to emirates which is quite big)…thts y wen it rains our already slow passes dont reach…it was a different ball game at highbury..tht was one of the main reasons y ljunberg and henry struggled…..but considering the transition we have done superbly..if we went ahead to win it…it wud be a very lovely surprise…but al those realist out thr trying to moan abt lack of depth..i think this is one fact u mite want to consider…
By: rohan on March 17, 2008
at 5:27 pm
To say take out Ade at this crucial point in the PL is absolute rubbish…and proves a fundamental misunderstanding of stats and football in general.
You take out the player that scored 19 goals and put Walcott who scored 2? or Bendtner who also scored 2? Or Van Persie who is still re-discovering himself? What kind of school team manager think this way?
I can be ok with resting him in games like Wigan or Even Boro, but to take him out playing Chel$ki or Man Ure, I don’t think Wenger is that naive….plus I’m sure he doesn’t play Soccer Evoultion II
G4E
By: Gunner4Ever on March 17, 2008
at 5:29 pm
ethan-gooner,why do you hate me??????????
By: manu-adebayor on March 17, 2008
at 5:38 pm
and seriously i dont giv a damn if anyone(except fab…..plzzzzzzz stay) leaves this club(flamini) or the lame reason tht we dint win anything….ppl like diarra will always be ..”a never was”
By: rohan on March 17, 2008
at 5:48 pm
again marcus is totally right, we were no hopers at the begginiing and have surpassed all our expectations, and the real question is why were we no hopers? the answer being everyone looked at our squad and said it wasn’t as strong as utd and chelsea to see it through. it was true then and will probably be true come may (i haven’t completely given up hope).
as i have said before wenger loves the under dog tag and says look how well we did on how little we spent. and half the fans say exactly the same thing and the other half say, wait a minute why don’t we go and get ourselves the best squad possible with the fiancial resources we HAVE AVAILABLE. it is much easier for a manager to lower the expectations and therefore less likely to disappoint. i for one think we have done amazingly well this year and surpassed all my expectations, and therefore his plan has clearly worked!!!!
By: dan on March 17, 2008
at 5:57 pm
flint
you cannot be serious ?
Torres looks an excellent buy but he went to a Spanish manager & over the season Ade has more than matched him.
firstly this ISNT ade’s 1st season with us ! torres adapted far more quickly to the pace of the EPL
HE IS TOTALLY IN ANOTHER CLASS BRACKET !
secondly if torres constantly spilled the possession over to the other side like ade ,dirk or peter would be on in a flash !
Ade has been simply woeful ! his 1st touch , his inability to pass the ball , hes constantly OFFSIDE ,
he hampers our natural passing game , his lack of vision that clearly throws 2 goals away every game just due to his ego or inability to pass off to his strike partner , not to mention his ability to cough up EVERY attempt to go forward we make !
Head butting – show boating ! disgraceful !
Flint i beg you ! watch the boro game again . tick off how many times the ball comes into his possession , and tell me how many times he does something positive with the pass !!! WHAT GAME ARE YOU WATCHING ??
Arsenal have always had a striker who has it in him to score 30+ goals a season ! that is it cut and dry ! he has scored 13 !!! im not counting his 3 penalties and his hat trick V ’s lowly derby ! Our midfield cannot cover the whole pitch, dominate possession and then score whilst our strikers plant there butts in the box and wait for room service !!!
We complained about TH 14 in his final year that he lacked movement and just sat outside the box
waiting for the ball ! We have replaced him with a sub standard version of TH14 with a similar ego! 13 goals given the chances ade has had is such a poor conversion rate i cannot believe any of you cant see it !!!
The reason our midfield aren’t scoring more is that ade is waving his hands about like an air traffic controller in the 6 yard box and if our midfield do anything else but try NOT to pass too him ! they get a mouthful from him ! Th14 mkII
Dont think im victimizing him ! I have given him plenty of chances to prove me wrong ! he doesn’t fit in with our passing game , his 1st touch is rubbish ! his finishing is even worse ! he constantly is getting it wrong by being offside ..
he cannot beat a man !
Stop covering for him ! He is not ready to front our team ! he makes our midfield ineffective as all there labor and passing is just spoiled when he coughs up possession , we find ourselves open to the break due to his lack of skill !
Bendtner isnt much better but at least he can pass ! and he is still very very young .. he could really do with some experience for another year or 2, on loan ! to sell him at 19 would be a mistake . but he needs to play regularly ! like most of our other youth players , denilson , diaby ! they all need to go on loan for a season or 2 ! It isnt fair on the fans to have these boys play for AFC … arsene is robbing flint and others who pay money to watch the game ,nothing beats experience and world class players and AFC has a duty of care to provide those players to the paying public who support them ! flat out straight !
and when you get Jeremie and Bentley coming out and saying to theo and the other youth players to break free of arsenal to progress quicker you have to say its all about playing for the 1st team !
or lack of !
Arsene is in a corner now .. diaby/denilson will never get a game ahead of flamini/cesc, but being youth players they wont wait forever , but at the same time they wont progress as players either, we are stunting these boys ! so do you p*ss them off and bring in experienced players ? then flamini and cesc wont progress ?
the team setup of man’u works well ! a mix of youth plus experience , you start that winning way
and they can interchange and all of them are happy with being a part of a winning club ! irrespective of the playing time they receive .
It wont be long before hoyte and diaby denilson
turn ! and im not saying ade will never make it !
let me make that clear ! to all (and G4E)
But he isnt working ! and if arsene persists with him , this season will be over in the next 2 outings !
By: ethan_goon on March 17, 2008
at 5:58 pm
that is why he never left us for madrid or barcelona and never will do. that philosophy will not be accepted there. he can do what he likes at arsenal with no one to answer to and if we go another three years of winning nothing people will still say, but look how much less money we spent!!!!!
By: dan on March 17, 2008
at 6:05 pm
Ethan:
1. Adebayor by any standard stands comparison to Torres this season. Anybody who cares about reality will look at the facts and conclude this.
2. If you actually take the team sheets of Arsenal and Man U, and compare the experience and age you’d find that Arsenal players actually are in many cases more experienced than older Man U players.
3 Look at the passing stats and stop being blinded by your hate for Adebayor. His pass completion rate is as good as any striker in the league.
4. Our midfield has scored many more goals than the United midfield. We have also had more midfield scorers this season. We’re not scoring right now but I think that’s a general team problem.
5. Adebayor has already made it. Even if he scores no more goal this year he would still have scored more than Drogba, Rooney, Anelka, Sheva and Saha.
Everything else is stomach lemons.
By: Ole Gunner on March 17, 2008
at 6:09 pm
I recently re-watched last season’s review on DVD and I was staggered by the improvement this team has made in a relatively short space of time. It is worth taking a step back and considering this.
One area where our relative youth and inexperience is a minus point is beating ultra-defensive set ups. We haven’t quite got the game experience to try different things, when our A-game isn’t working. But we are improving all the time and these games that we are currently drawing would most likely have ended in defeat last season.
To me these are reasons to be positive and I really do not believe that we need wholesale changes or to spend millions on players with over-inflated price tags. Keeping this team together and supplementing it with some returning loan players or a few judicious purchases will lead to silverware sooner rather than later, even if we fall short this season.
By: Passenal on March 17, 2008
at 6:15 pm
Manny your joking obviously, if your not someone is pulling your p…..r !
By: veteran on March 17, 2008
at 6:16 pm
G4e
you so quick to state 19 goals !
no need to remind us of the figure it hasnt moved in so long its tattooed into our brains !
just watch the boro game mate and see how many times ade makes a hash of everything he touches !
also the goal scoring facts
3 are penalties – which he didnt create !
3 was a hat trick against a championship side !
leaving him with 13 goals in 30 + games
woeful !
this all being considered he has spent 90 minutes on the pitch each time also , where as theo gets 10 minutes here and there , theo is coming home strong ! and deserves his chance !
THEO and RVP ! will tighten up the possession problems , and the CONSTANT off sides
sorry ade i don’t want to bash you anymore , but too many people are asking what is the heart of our recent failures and ‘your’ the heart of it .
because i honestly cannot fault another player on our team , RVP is a bit rusty but he’s always needed a good solid strike partner who wasnt selfish and would pass to him when open !
your not the one to partner RVP , theo is the only natural candidate ,his movement and speed ,passing will compliment RVP !
plus its pretty hard to score when we are always offside !
By: ethan_goon on March 17, 2008
at 6:26 pm
Oh please ethan you are the “Stupid God of Football” please give me another chance….don’t take my goals away from me….oh no!
Who the f@ck do you think you are? What do you mean taking away goals or penalties…….If we took the 20 deflected goals Lamfart scored for Chel$ki they should give the 2005 title back then?
What a load of $hit you are $hitting on this blog. It seems you eat $hit all day…and you come here on spew it all over
By: Ade_25 on March 17, 2008
at 6:31 pm
well ole ,
irrespective of your bullet point crackers, i know the truth . i can see the league table , and ive watched the way we have played over the past 4 games ! and your stats lie !
because man-u and chevski have more depth and experience , and whilst we have people like you defend our club , we will always be 3rd best !
By: ethan_goon on March 17, 2008
at 6:34 pm
Even with this weird logic 13 goals is a better record than 2, unless math is different on your planet.
By: Gunner4Ever on March 17, 2008
at 6:34 pm
I have not yet read this latest post by Yogi nor the comments, I’ve been offline for a few days and have just finished reading Yogi’s two posts before this one, and the accompanying comments. Pretty much what I expected after a horribly disappointing game on Saturday. OF COURSE I KNEW ETHAN WOULD BE BACK!
I just wanted to make clear here that the “Marcus” who posted in the previous comments section is NOT ME. That “Marcus” is very much like Ethanclueless. I first saw his comments on gunnerblog last season when that blog was overwhelmingly dominated by so-called “supporters” trashing Wenger and the players, and demanding that Wenger resign. Like Ethandunderhead, Marcus ALWAYS shows up when we fail, esp. fail badly. Both of them disappear when we succeed.
To the rest of you, why do you keep talking to Ethan and his ilk? (I don’t include Howard or Dan amongst them). These are “supporters” who LOVE to be proven right in their doom and gloom prophecies, they LOVE to gloat and crow to the rest of us poor blinkered souls. They ENJOY results like Saturday’s, they WELCOME Arsenal’s failure. It’s all about THEM.
Please stop feeding these cretins.
By: marcus on March 17, 2008
at 6:36 pm
looks like the sewage tide has come in !
your the joke on this blog ade 25 look at your contribution to the boro game and hide in F****** shame man ! your a joke !
Th14 at the same time would have about 25 + goals
put that in your pipe and smoke it
you rude blind idiot !
how many offsides did ade create ? how many times did he lose possession ?
watch the game you crack head !
By: ethan_goon on March 17, 2008
at 6:39 pm
Marcus, I wanted to say this not you mate…..glad to see you back.
By: Gunner4Ever on March 17, 2008
at 6:44 pm
the ade thing is not balck or white, he is not “woeful” by any stretch of the imaginanation or this amazing striker the media and (unfortunatley) he himself had started to believe he is. he has had to lead the line almost on his own this year with injurie snad growing pains to the younger players. he when on form has been magnificant and and other times like the last few games dreadful. whether that is due to his exhaustion or the fact that he is still young and and learning the game we don’t know. but he has certainly come a huge way in the space of a year.
By: dan on March 17, 2008
at 6:45 pm
G4E
divide that by time spent on the pitch in a striking position ! theo is played out on the wing ! eboue has never scored there and you must admit theo is looking sharp ! cmon he deserves his chance !!!!
admit it G4E !!!
marcus your an idiot !
all the toss about i only come back to doom gloat !
i was here when the ship was sinking before !
now we are 1/2 way to the bottom of the ocean !
marcus youve always written crap . so dont worry i wont read your tripe either !
By: ethan_goon on March 17, 2008
at 6:47 pm
You know nothing. Back up your comments somehow Mr ethan, reality doesn’t back them up!
By: Ole Gunner on March 17, 2008
at 6:48 pm
Thanks dan, I guess there is a difference between blind hate and constructive criticism after all. Yes he dropped in form, but I see many did drop in form too…Hleb was awful in the 1st half, I don’t see him being attacked in a similar fashion as Ade?
By: Gunner4Ever on March 17, 2008
at 6:52 pm
id say to you ole , re-watch the game and tell me how many times ade was offside ! – how many times did he spill up possession (meaning we had possession and then lost it by his last touch )
thats the reality of going into the next game !
we CANNOT have a repeat of the boro game .
DO YOU AGREE ?
and he has screwed up royally over the past half a dozen games ! and now RVP is back he is wasted because ade don’t pass to any strike partner !
does your stats include those perimeters ?
By: ethan_goon on March 17, 2008
at 6:53 pm
Theo deserve all the chances he can get, but not as a leading forward in a crucial stage of the season…What if he doesn’t score a single goal? Do you want to put this huge responsibility of losing the title on his back? It means he would be forever done…with the way English media raise players to the sky and crash them with the first mistake.
Think a little, just too steps ahead before you talk.
By: Gunner4Ever on March 17, 2008
at 6:56 pm
-too
+two
By: Gunner4Ever on March 17, 2008
at 6:57 pm
G4E i dont HATE ade !
STOP CHOMPING WORDS INTO MY MOUTH !
but i know the class and responsibilities our ace striker needs at AFC
and he is WAY OFF THE MARK ! in every department !apart from height and aerial threat !
its you who has manipulated my so called vision of hatred towards him so admit it and resolve it !
i dont know him… to hate him ! i only know he isnt working ! and disrupts our passing game …
he probly is a nice bloke off the pitch , when he isnt head butting bendtner…
but my commitment is to better AFC , not stunt it !
and its arsenes fault ..not ade’s !
ive said that before but you prefer to ignore it because your a nancy boy who loves to whine like a woman , no offense intended
By: ethan_goon on March 17, 2008
at 7:01 pm
helb has also been dreadful in the past few weeks. the reality is they have all been very average to poor, which is why we have won only one in seven games. there needs to be a spark and not sure where it is going to come from. RVP has been out for so long, i don’t think it is reasonable to expect it from him, i doubt we will see rosicky again this season and if so certainly in the next few crucial weeks. maybe walcott can provide it, but as said before there is very little else to fall back on.
sorry to harp on about it but there seems to be little to no options available to wenger at the moment, other than just send the same lot out and hope for the best.
By: dan on March 17, 2008
at 7:04 pm
get a grip G4E
theo was played in the C.L game and made more of an impact in 10 minutes than ade did the whole game !
so maybe you need to think b4 you talk !
By: ethan_goon on March 17, 2008
at 7:05 pm
The burden is on you to tell us what the stats are and to compare it to the standard for a good striker. You’re making the assertion. Where are your facts? If you can’t wouldn’t it be right to say you’re talking shite?
By: Ole Gunner on March 17, 2008
at 7:07 pm
Welcome to an adult conversation, the fact that you use Nancy boy etc means you probably have teenage friends.
1- And because he carried us on his back all season you would like to axe him out for an 18 years old still struggling to run with the ball. So even if you say Ade is struggling too, the difference is Ade already scored 19….If Walcott played as many games as Ade…I don’t think for a minute he would score this many. Did Walcott score with his head before from a cross? No. Can he receive a ball in the air and slam it in the top corner in a Spuds game at White sh*t lane…haven’t seen that yet.
2- The fake head-butt the no one seen except you and fans who prefer Bendtner to Ade?? If you have video proof of that, please show it to the FA. So the fact that you mention something like that about him shows that you don’t like him.
Fair enough just don’t try to convince us to dislike him too….ok? Is that fair?
By: Gunner4Ever on March 17, 2008
at 7:14 pm
the problems with Ade are:
(1) he is caught off-side too many times, although there have been some woeful ref. mistakes;
(2) he was on fire in January, but now he is struggling and so is the team. His drop in form is hence more badly felt than before.
More importantly,
we’ve seen from Berkamp to Henry and now to ……….. Ade.
Okay, before I write further, I’ve got to admit that I am neither the biggest fan of Eboue’s nor the biggest hater of his. But some people have mentioned that Ade performs far far better without Eboue around, and he was indeed in excellent form in Jan, during the ACN. And now we’re witnessing how astronomically fast he’s gone from hero to zero since Feb.
By: edlass on March 17, 2008
at 7:16 pm
Adebayor has had at least 4 goals wrongfully disallowed this season and like 2-3 not given penalties. He could well be at 25 goals already this season. Why is that forgotten?
By: Ole Gunner on March 17, 2008
at 7:21 pm
And you think because Walcott played good in 10 minutes, he can play good for 90? What do you base that on?
By: Gunner4Ever on March 17, 2008
at 7:21 pm
We do have a strong enough squad if everyone is fit. How often does this occur? Why do we have players who can’t put 15-20 game run together? Too many seem to be fit for half a doen games only. Why?
Ethan, it’s not your opinions but the way you express them that is tedious.
Gooners. Fickle f***ers.
By: jamie on March 17, 2008
at 7:22 pm
dan
all this could have been avoided if arsene just splashed the cash in the December window !
a notion i got heckled for !
It was obvious to me that our bench was lacking even in October ! toure also has been disappointing by his standards but if ade converted more of his chances we wouldn’t be on the back end of a 4 draw
8 point loss disaster ! he was the man who had the minutes on the pitch ,who didnt score the goals !, who else can be made accountable ? and hleb is not a natural scorer , he shouldn’t be looked upon to provide a boot load of goals … The space th14 left needs to be filled ! its that simple ..
G4E you can only go on current form and walcott definitely has that in his favor , there is also such a thing called a sub ! im sure if the experiment fails ade can come on and give us more of the same ..
By: ethan_goon on March 17, 2008
at 7:26 pm
jamie, you are wrong the squad isn’t strong enough, we have 3 players injured at the moment and the bench was senderos, walcott, gilberto, and bendtner. wenger has no room to move players around and rest players , saturdays starting 11 minus eboue need to play every game and no one else in the squad is any where near as good as them. with all due respect i really think you are kidding yourself.
By: dan on March 17, 2008
at 7:29 pm
ethan: Chelsea splashed £40 million in the transfer window and got kicked out of the FA Cup and League Cup.
So if Wenger had spent £40 million and we also got kicked out of the FA Cup and League Cup like we are, then that would have been worse.
The facts are that mid-season players never make an impact on the current season.
And was Wenger supposed to legislate injuries?
By the way why do we suffer so many damn injuries, this is the 3rd season in a row that we’ve struggled with injuries.
By: Ole Gunner on March 17, 2008
at 7:30 pm
Hi G4E, appreciate the sentiments.
Well, this is my first chance to express (online) my feelings/thoughts after Saturday’s game. I had plenty of chance to express them verbally with friends. Thankfully I wasn’t at my regular Brooklyn haunt while watching the game (where fans of other PL clubs are around). I was with a group of NY gooners at a friend’s house (some of them British expats). To say that the atmosphere was very quiet and subdued is to understate the matter.
Gotta say that all day Saturday after the game, and into the night (it was broadcast here live at 1pm our time), I was near to tears. Moody, angry, sullen, depressed, and the rest of it. My hope for the title was already wavering but it came crashing down completely on Saturday. I lost all belief.
Four f–king draws in succession, to teams we should be winning against, 3 (or 2? I’ve lost my time sense) of them after a brilliant performance v. the CL champions. Other have already said it. The Milan game aside, the team has simply looked worn out in the last 4 league games. I’ve had issues with Ade but he just looks like he needs a good long rest. It doesn’t matter that Boro “should’ve” been more tired than us because they had a midweek game — the fact is, Arsenal have played far more games than Boro have. It’s not just physical exhaustion, it’s mental as well.
The reason the old problems from last season are coming back is that this young team is just too damn stretched. And unlike a team populated by more experienced veterans, they’re having trouble finding answers to teams who played like Boro on Saturday.
I was miserable on Saturday so I kept to myself over the next 24 hours and by Sunday night I’d brought myself back to earth. I remembered what my expectations and hopes were at the start of the season. Unlike the doommongers at the time (who predicted middtable mediocrity), I expected to see improvement from last season, a 2nd or 3rd place finish, a better CL run and maybe a domestic cup trophy. Generally I just hoped to see an improvement in our performances on the pitch. At no time did I expect–or even hope–to win the league.
The simple fact is, my hopes and expectations have been met, and surpassed. As passenal said so well, if you watch the games from last season, this team has improved dramatically. So dramatically that we forgot all about our far more realistic expectations at the start of the season and suddenly found ourselves actually believing we could win the title.
I don’t know many gooners who had realistic expectations of winning the title, let alone the CL, this season. PLEASE let’s not forget what we’ve seen this season: Arsenal have been top of the league for the OVERWHELMING majority of the season — consistently. United have managed that feat for, what, a week or two, before being knocked out by us?
Ade has gone from being a crap finisher to the 2nd highest scorer in the league. We’ve seen the much-criticized Hleb and underrated Flamini transform themselves into players that other clubs now want for themselves.
It took me months to actually believe we could win the title, even after we’d been top of the league for so long. I just didn’t think this team could achieve that yet. I only started really believing it when I saw we were coping well during the ANC. Well, we all got too used to raising our expectations and forgot that it was not realistic to look upon this team as championship material yet.
I also remind myself that it’s still possible we’ll win something this season, it’s wrong to write us off completely.
By Sunday night I was feeling a bit better, esp. when I reminded myself that United’s performance v. Derby was not in the least impressive (nor was Chelsea’s v. Sunderland).
On Saturday I’d lost all hope of winning anything. Today I remind myself that this season has seen one surprising twist after another, and that we are still in the race. I also see that if we don’t win anything, it’s unfair to just erase what we have achieved this season. Gooners have a helluva lot to be proud of. I have no time for those of you who can’t see that.
That doesn’t mean I don’t see what folks like dan are saying. I think it’s fair to criticize some of Wenger’s decisions. Far more than the players, I blame Wenger for these 4 draws. I think the squad depth issue is a real one, but I don’t think the answer is to shell out $25 mil on the likes of Torres or Ribery — esp. when those players may not even want to join us (as was the case with Ribery).
Also, IT WAS THE MEDIA THAT MADE THE FACILE CONNECTION BETWEEN EDUARDO DIRECTLY “REPLACING” HENRY NOT WENGER!!! Shows you how much some of these clueless “supporters” know when they parrot media hype as truth.
By: marcus on March 17, 2008
at 7:37 pm
Dan
you might be right but my main point was the amount of time some of our players spend on the treamtent table. Why? All teams have injuries but our players play 3 or 4 games and continuously pick up minor strains and are out for a couple of games, so don’t build up a rhythm.
I know this is an easy moan but United supporters saying we can’t cope with the pressure. They’ve won the title once in 4 years.
Some of the comments from gooners on many sites suggest they are glory hunters and getting the hump because things aren’t going right. For F**k sake we still have a lot to play for. 2 good results at the weekend and everything changes.
If we go on to win either, then I will be ecpecting many of you to proclaim what c**ts you are
By: jamie on March 17, 2008
at 7:41 pm
I think I will end by saying. I’m glad Wenger is the manager not you……What you & I say here means nothing…because at the end, the manager puts the team sheet before the game and it’s not signed by ethan_goon for sure.
So, whoever pulls on the red & white shirt will be supported by me regardless of anything said here on this blog.
By: Gunner4Ever on March 17, 2008
at 7:43 pm
g4e
form !
i base it on form !
and again dont put words in my mouth g4e
you little nancy boy !
(nancy boy is a bloody old saying and besides i cant call you ###### ! )
but i dont HATE ade , its too stronger word !
sorry jamie
i tell it like it is ! the arsenal fantasy world 1/2 the bloggers live in some need a kick in the pants just so they open there ears , but if we did have a big enough squad we would of been still in the cups and wouldn’t be complaining for 2 seasons in a row that we have injury concerns !
plus this dip in form can only be contributed to lack of goals or lack of maturity . either we need a world class striker , or we need some more recruits that can be world class shortly .
there are no other options . if we are to live up to our world class reputation .
By: ethan_goon on March 17, 2008
at 7:44 pm
dan: You’re kidding yourself. It wasn’t long ago that our second string beat Liverpool, Tottenham, Blackburn, Newcastle, Steau, etc. Walcott came of the bench to score the winning goal at the San Siro. Two goals at Birmingham. Diaby came from injury to help in the San Siro win.
They’ve more than proven that they’re good enough. Every single player we have has missed at least 2 games due to injury, and we’re still competing on 2 fronts. THAT MORE THAN DEMONSTRATES A STRONG SQUAD.
Walcott, Diaby, Senderos have already had more real impact on our season than Nani, Giggs, Scholes and Anderson. Or Pizarro, Sheva, SWP, Anelka, we could go on. Those are facts.
They’ve scored crucial goals that let us progress in important competitions
By: Ole Gunner on March 17, 2008
at 7:44 pm
no doubt injuries have played a role as they always do, however, even with a relatively clean bill of health ie this weekend, the “second” 11 are still no where as good as the first and there is not enough options available. as i said we would never not play clichy, sagna, toure, gallas, flam, fab, helb, rosicky (if he was ever fit) rvp or ade if you could, only eds and possibly bednter and walcott can come in and possibly do something.
By: dan on March 17, 2008
at 7:50 pm
ole
By the way why do we suffer so many damn injuries, this is the 3rd season in a row that we’ve struggled with injuries.
you answered your own question then we need more players , so make them class players with experience!
And yes we would have won at least one cup ..We have been the best team all season , of course we should of won something ! if we had more fit bodies for arsene to choose from i have no doubt that we would be looking at a double or triple.
But lack of goal scoring and fit personnel will sink our season ! and it shouldn’t have happened !
we were so close !!!
By: ethan_goon on March 17, 2008
at 7:51 pm
Ole Gunner
It wasn’t long ago that our second string beat Liverpool, Tottenham, Blackburn, Newcastle
Yes it wasn’t long ago that burnley beat them either ?
your point ?
liverpool went thru a bad patch with rotation policies and spurs had jol ! there is a reason for everything .
but the truth is none of our 2nd string play well with the first team !
cant you remember the C.C game v spurs ?
the hybrid of 2nd string and 1st string definitely don’t work !
By: ethan_goon on March 17, 2008
at 7:56 pm
also who cant beat newcastle and blackburn currently ??
By: ethan_goon on March 17, 2008
at 8:00 pm
ethan…are you actually just having a laugh here? If they’re class players, and experienced they won’t have injuries?
Oh my what shallowness. So two seasons ago when we had Cole, Campbell, Lauren, Pires, Ljungberg missing for long spells it was because they weren’t class and lacked experience. Stupidity writ large.
LACK OF GOALSCORING: Do you live on this planet? We have scored as many goals this season as any club. Do you actually watch Arsenal games? Or do you hear it in pubs after a few?
By: Ole Gunner on March 17, 2008
at 8:00 pm
Shut up ethan sh&t, you probably sit in front of the TV praying that I don’t score…so you can come here and sh&t your diarrhea
By: Ade_25 on March 17, 2008
at 8:00 pm
MARCUS – agree with your sentiments
Mental and physical fatigue caused by too little rotation of the core players and limits naturally also impoased by our run of injuries
However, the laws of probability are very simple – I am sure the Professor understands them well enough. If you are a big team with serious PL and CL ambitions you need a squad to rival your opponents as you will suffer injuries. Wenger may have seen this as his final developmental season so thus left his squad periphery stocked with young promise to blood. Fine but he could still have added a couple of experienced players for a reasonable sum and bought a top class left winger (so we at least had one world class option on a flank). Also he did a very shrewd bit of business with Diarra – then let’s him walk. Criminal – he knew Gilberto was not at the races yet he lets him go and is forced to play Fabregas and Flamini into the ground. Diarra should have been told “We have a chance of the PREM – you stay till teh summer and then we’ll review it. Now F**k off out of my office”
I am very interested in this “Arsene Knows” philosophy v so called disloyal fans who criticise. I have seen it raging on other arsenal weblogs too. Well:
Fans (and there are plenty of articulate, intelligent fans on this blog) are entitled to have opinions. Some go too far (and you can just flick over their contributions because they are morons) but constructive criticism is healthy
I think that Arsene probbaly goes unchallenged at Arsenal these days. You could see Hill Wood was a bit miffed a few seasons ago when he went public and said “Yes – we do have money”
Another fan wrote very perceptively the other day:
Arsene “Nursery” approach has yielded no trophies.
His other great sides contained players of experience bought in:
Overmars, Petit, lauren,
Wenger is a genius but he has tried to invent a new total football style when he alreday had the formula for winning the PL cracked. Power, physical strenght, pace embellished with technical excellence. More power and fight Arsene – that why letting a little pocket battleship like Diarra go, I could not understand. He could have come in and allowed Flam and Fab a rest
By: AlanG on March 17, 2008
at 8:07 pm
ole gun
yes i agree but diaby and walcott are 1st team subs not our 2nd string ! 2nd string are gibbs and traore randall etc .. you can try and defend the un-defendable all night but if your honest with yourself man’u and chevski have a bench of world class players . They have built that dynasty to ensure they can compete in all cups and not be affected by injuries ( like us ) . gallas is our only true senior player of 30 .. he is not a steadying influence ,especially when dudu was injured !
we need more experience to get us thru patches like OUR LAST 4 GAMES !
By: ethan_goon on March 17, 2008
at 8:08 pm
ethan: Burnley beat our second string? On FIFA 2008? Are all your comments based on what happens on your video game league?
Any team can beat Blackburn? Wasn’t I told on this thread that the proof of United’s “strength in depth” is beating Fulham after rotating Rooney and Ronaldo.
But a cup game against Blackburn at Ewood Park does not count right?
By: Ole Gunner on March 17, 2008
at 8:08 pm
ethan
you miss the point, it’s not about getting more players becuase of the injuries but why do we get so many injuries? Injuries is the wring term, strains, niggles, minor problems. How many of our injuries happen in games? Very few, what’s happening? ethan, what winds people up with you is that you seem to take pleasure in our defeats, you are never around to say something positive when results go our way
Football365 state the Ade has had 5 legitimate goals disallowed. A difference between winning and losing.
By: jamie on March 17, 2008
at 8:10 pm
ethan: The facts don’t bear you out. The facts dont bear you out. Our squad has won us big games and helped us compete this year through an injury crisis.
I know that makes you sad but it’s undisputable. Walcott, Diaby and Senderos have already had more impact on our season than Nani, Anderson, Giggs and Scholes. Boo hoo for you. Sad as that makes you.
By: Ole Gunner on March 17, 2008
at 8:15 pm
ole your on some medication ?
our goal dif is 36 and man U is 44 with a game in hand !
liverpool who have had a crap season are on 34
your talking bollocks !
Cole, Campbell, Lauren, Pires, Ljungberg ???
more like 3 season ago ! when we were 2nd in the league ! Yes that quality ! not bendtner-walcott -senderos-jens- and denilson . i think your having a laugh !
LACK OF GOALSCORING: Do you live on this planet? yes i do
do you ?
considering we were ontop of the table 3 days ago , and we are behind manU in goal dif , YES we are down on scoring ! OR WE WOULD STILL BE ON TOP YOU IDIOT !
By: ethan_goon on March 17, 2008
at 8:20 pm
ole’
Walcott, Diaby, Senderos have already had more real impact on our season than Nani, Giggs, Scholes and Anderson. Or Pizarro, Sheva, SWP, Anelka, we could go on. Those are facts.
sheva and pizaaro aside, you are smoking something, diaby or nani, close one!!!! NOT Anderson or Diaby, anelka/SWP or walcott, not sure what you are watching but obviously very different from me. walcott “is” potential at the moment not much more. not talking about the future but for the next month i would rather see scholes and giggs playing in these huge matches than diaby, walcott and eboue.
By: dan on March 17, 2008
at 8:23 pm
You’ve been eating expired catfood mate. Goals difference is Goals Scored minus Goals conceded. Look under the goals scored column. Arsenal have one goal less than United!
No. That was 2 years ago. The season we went to the Champions League final.
Are you capable of clear thought? Seriously? We’re leading the league in scoring. We’re having a bad patch but if those last 4 games were our season we’d be Derby. Is it possible for you to understand that or do I need to translate it into baby language?
By: Ole Gunner on March 17, 2008
at 8:26 pm
dan: Nani has 3 goals this season. Walcott, 5. Diaby has 3 goals this season, Anderson a big fat ZERO! Giggs? Scholes?
I dont care who you want to see. the question is who has performed this season not your erotic fantasies.
By: Ole Gunner on March 17, 2008
at 8:32 pm
The real Marcus,
I am glad you clarified that because for a while I thought you had been on some mind bending substances. Your points are well considered, so the impostor did not ring true.
Thanks for keeping up the fight Ole but they don’t want to know about facts or provide actual practical answers, do they?
I am afraid you either believe in this squad of players or you don’t.
We really are all just repeating ourselves.
By: Flint McCullough on March 17, 2008
at 8:33 pm
ole your a freak who needs some help !
you talk total bollocks ! who cares about scholes (whos been out with injury too ) think of carrick giggs and hardgreaves etc plus the above mentioned and you will (or probly wont ) get what im talking about .. thats without there real junior players ..
and yes they rotate them more , as they can afford that luxury ! were we have to rotate our strikers constantly in the 60th minute because we have been playing crap lately ! and are always chasing goals !
give it a break you argumentative g*t !
jamie
dont worry about me !
if people cant handle the truth
im cool with that ..
i aint being polite to rude idiots like ole ..
they get what they serve up to me !!
nothing more nothing less .
anyhow jamie goodnight and lets hope we can get chelsea on the counter ! , and pray liverpool continue there run of good form at old trafford !
Lets also hope that if arsene isnt daft enough to put ade on the pitch , and if he is …that he can deliver for once !!!
By: ethan_goon on March 17, 2008
at 8:35 pm
How supporters can turn on Wenger and the club is beyond me. Honestly.
Yes we have gone through a bad patch and some could argue that we could/should have had a stronger squad but the reason why we are fighting for the league (on a budget) is due to our manager.
We haven’t spent much recently because we have had to manage our money to move into the stadium.
Yes we have money now, but Wenger is building a team.
Think of it this way. If you was managing a team and you had a 17 year old Zidane, 16 year old Vieira and 18 year old Bergkamp would you go and buy experienced players to stop their growth and possibly make them move elsewhere to gain first team football?
Cesc, Clichy, Van Persie, Flamini, Toure, Vieira etc etc have all convinced me that Arsene knows what he is doing and that he is going down the right path.
Liverpool, Chelsea and Manchester United have spent shit loads of players but they are not in a better position than us at the moment.
I understand that everyone has their own views but I just think that people need to look at the bigger picture.
By: MeanLean on March 17, 2008
at 8:38 pm
ethan. Calm down. It’s not my fault that the facts don’t back you out. We’re talking about squad players.
Well they rotated their players in the FA Cup and were knocked out of it by Pompey. They wanted the treble.Not this year. Seems like they can’t afford that luxury maybe?
At least our second string got to the CC semi-finals for the second year in a row not to mention the final last year.
Flint: We are repeating ourselves but some are basing their views of the real world on their fantasy leagues. We need to ban the league feature on PS 2.
By: Ole Gunner on March 17, 2008
at 8:39 pm
AlanG, we’re not in dissagreement. I’d already gone on too long to get into the squad depth issue in more detail. I too feel Wenger mishandled Diarra — why not simply rest Flamini occasionally and start Diarra in some league games?
Rafa’s rotation policy is roundly condemned in all quarters and I agree that his policy winds up taking Liverpool out of the title race every season. By the time his policy bears fruit, it’s at the business end of the season and it’s too late for the pool to win the title. However, his players do have fresh legs AT THE BUSINESS END OF THE SEASON.
Wenger doesn’t have to go as far as Rafa. AW could just rotate with more discretion and judgment.
Of course, to rotate, you need enuf quality in reserve. And if Rafa had enuf of that, his rotation policy wouldn’t hurt Liverpool’s title chances so much. He could afford to rotate frequently at the start of the season and still challenge for the title.
The issue here is AW’s insistence on a comparatively small squad to challenge for top honors with a team committed to such a heavy fixture schedule. I’m not asking for the likes of Torres, all I ask is for more players like Sagna — and that AW rotate the players more often so that by the time we’re in March, the players aren’t ready to collapse.
By: marcus on March 17, 2008
at 8:42 pm
gallas says the team have lost mental strengh!
talk about the midget calling the dwarf shorty!!!
By: dukeGoonem on March 17, 2008
at 8:47 pm
Marcus: We have already rotated a lot this season. We had to. INJURIES caused it. And we’re still competitive in two competitions, as many as Man U and Chelsea. How about that?
Diarra wanted to leave. Wenger asked him to stay. He refused to play crucial cup games. When that started affecting team spirit. Wenger sold him.
Maybe Wenger made a mistake. I would have kept him and sent him off to play with the reserves till I sell him int the Summer.
By: Ole Gunner on March 17, 2008
at 8:49 pm
flint
you want to deal with the facts ?
the facts are we are not on top of the table
and manU have a game in hand . also man U are ahead on GOALS SCORED with a game in hand !
( so yes ‘ole plonker’ we need to score more to win )
what we are also facing is 3 road trips to liverpool – manU and chelsea respectively !
More like we shouldn’t listen to your mediocrity comments ,because they just sound desperate
and dismissive.. Like you really have NO passion to see this club succeed , and there is always next season ! …attitude to your tone !
If you cannot find faults with something that is going wrong season after season you will never get the prize ,you dont deserve a prize ! Something is going wrong and ole can give us stats til his head explodes but the simple truth is nani is a class player who influences the game more than ole’s stats suggest ,scholes and giggs have experience to win big games ..
he is a tool ! abusing me about video games , which is quite pathetic ,and his only outlet to unrattle me ,you have nice friends flint ! i haven’t a clue what your on about ole but you must get off on your gameboy .. ! but i put it down to your narrow vision flint , and your win the lotto attitude !
I have no time for delusional visions of utopia in this current scenario, you either get with the program , or simply dont talk to me ! Because sticking your head in the sand and saying all our players are fantastic , its simply a retarded notion !
Man U are whipping our butts .. and they have the players to back it up , ask any pundit on the planet ! I think most normal thinking human beings can tell who is right and who is wrong !
go buy a lotto ticket !
By: ethan_goon on March 17, 2008
at 9:03 pm
i’m ethan the monkey…i talk without thinking mostly from my a$$ LOL, i’m a crazy a$$ monkey.
By: Monkey-ethan on March 17, 2008
at 9:04 pm
Ethan,
it’s a bleak world you live in. Tell me about your childhood….
By: jamie on March 17, 2008
at 9:13 pm
ethan: Hug the facts. They’re your friends. Don’t sulk because they don’t agree with you. Just change your position.
Nani is a class player but so is Walcott and so is Diaby.
I don’t think we’re perfect but I can’t stand this conventional wisdom of Arsenal not being good enough. It’s deeply annoying to me because in the summer, all the pundits rubbished and ridiculed us, Arsenal fans said we’d be competing in Uefa Cup next season. All other fans I knew ridiculed the death of me as an Arsenal fans.
Now, 8 months later, we’ve done much better than any of those people ever thought (they should have known better) and now we’re still being told we’re crap.
But the facts don’t back that up. This United strangth in depth thing irks me the most because Alan Hansen made it all up and everybody repeats it uncritically.
The reason, when every team plays Arsenal, they spend the whole week psyching themselves like crazy is because we’re the team to beat.
By: Ole Gunner on March 17, 2008
at 9:14 pm
hey jamie, i was born in the african sahara desert, my dad ran away with a beutiful monkey lady from Togo….that’s why i hate that ade so much….
By: Monkey-ethan on March 17, 2008
at 9:31 pm
No one is laughing with you, you stupid ignorant idiot who cannot even spell.
There is no place for your rasism around here so why don’t you get lost and educate yourself
By: Fed up with dick heads on March 17, 2008
at 9:38 pm
No one is laughing with you, you stupid ignorant idiot who cannot even spell.
There is no place for your racism around here so why don’t you get lost and educate yourself
By: Fed up with dick heads on March 17, 2008
at 9:39 pm
“Hug the facts” LOL!! Ole, I I liked that one. Gave me a good giggle. It’s a futile task you’re engaging in, but I admire your hope that you’ll get thru to the poster who is clearly allergic to facts.
I know that Wenger has rotated, being forced to do so due to injuries. I just don’t think he’s rotated enuf. Diarra was kept on the bench while AW refused to rest Flamini, and then stuck with Gilberto when Flam was injured. I think AW could’ve used Diarra more than he did. I’m no fan of Diarra’s personality — and when he refused to play games, I think he crossed the line. Once a player does that, he deserves no support. But before things reached that point, I do think AW could’ve used the player much more than he did. Or do as you suggest — instead of giving Diarra what he wanted, put him out on loan.
Anyway, yes, AW has rotated. And yes, we’re still in 2 competitions just like Chelsea and MU. Which is testament to AW and the players’ stamina and consistency in a very long, gruelling season. As I said, the players, manager and fans have a lot to be proud of.
I just think that Arsenal do not have the quality in depth that MU have. I don’t compare us to Chelsea because they can’t be compared to anyone, they’re in a category all by themselves. The fact that they are only in 2 competitions speaks ILL of them as they have incomparable strength and quality in depth.
I’m not one to trash the younger players like Traore and Hoyt because I remember their promise last season. Traore’s promise made us all excited last season, now we’ve totally forgotten that because he’s been poor this season. Well he hasn’t been getting many games, neither has Hoyt. Look at what’s happened to Senderos after several games.
I agree with you that the hype about MU is exaggerated. I actually watch them week in and week out and I don’t believe in their invincibility at all. I do think, however, that Ferguson has more options than AW has. The injury issue is a far bigger problem with us than it is with them, I think it has to do with our particular style of play. AW should plan for that but he doesn’t seem to. For 3 seasons now we’ve had Rosicky and RVP out for huge chunks of the season. He never seems to compensate enuf for that.
By: marcus on March 17, 2008
at 9:42 pm
ade show up in my dreams @ night and i start to poo poo on myself an i wake up wit a stinky a$$ an all
By: Monkey-ethan on March 17, 2008
at 9:44 pm
Wow Ethan boy….i didn’t know you had all those difficulties. We can cut you some slack now that we understand buddy.
By: Ade_25 on March 17, 2008
at 9:53 pm
Is it a full moon tonight or something?
By: Josef K on March 17, 2008
at 10:00 pm
ethan you are a joker!
you claim to be a gooner but no gooner can come out with “man utd are kicking our butts and they have the players to prove it!”…
you must be on a wind up! why dont you come clean, its gone on long enough!!
By: dukeGoonem on March 17, 2008
at 10:00 pm
Blimey! Just read a few of these commemts of todays blog! You lot are on one tonight! Bloody hell! Lets all just chill out and look forward to what promises to be a great month of football. Yes, saturday was bad, but hey we are level points at the top of the league and in the quarter final of the Champions League, not bad in my book. I think we are the verge of history here, so lets stop arguing and put our energies into getting behind our great club. Make the Emirates have an atmosphere to be proud of and an intimidating one for the opposition. The team needs our support more than ever now so lets sing up for lads and roar them on to glory! Cmon the Gunners!
By: GoonerPaul on March 17, 2008
at 10:33 pm
Agree DukeGoonem – he was nowhere to be seen when we beat Milan or for the last few months when we were top of the league but he comes out of the woodwork when we have a few off-games. just so he can slam the team. That does not seem like the behaviour of a supporter to me.
By: Passenal on March 17, 2008
at 10:43 pm
And people get upset with me when I get nasty with him…He is not a fan, we all say it when one of our players is acting or playing bad…but we don’t attack them with this tirade of made up stupid stuff.
It is obvious that all other teams scared of Ade by their own admissions, and they want to kill his confidence because he has a dip in form……Not on my watch
By: Gunner4Ever on March 17, 2008
at 10:55 pm
I do not read the oracle(ethan)’e comments anymore. Not since his last pile of BS a few months ago.
By: Steve on March 17, 2008
at 11:59 pm
Where we tonight shall camp?….The top blogs of the day. the newest report , see and reply me some comments. Thanks.
By: lanphuong on March 18, 2008
at 12:51 am
“The key aspect for me of recent games has been the inability to break down stubborn resistance.”
This is what you mention in your article, I can’t totally agree, this is a vailid point, BUT not really as relevant as mainatining a tight defence and keeping concentration.
We concede the first goal and then find it hard to break teams down, but the problem is caused by conceding the first goal, which has always come from a lack of concentration.
The only exception is Wigan who played more defensively than the other 3 teams as well as the hangover from Europe and the poor pitch affecting our ability to perform there.
It seems that teams are snatching a goal when we are lulled into a false sense of security pushing forward and having little defensive work to do.
If we could keep concentration at the back and eliminate these mistakes then the draws against Birmingham, Aston Villa and Millesborough probably could have been wins.
By: jamesgillesp on March 18, 2008
at 12:55 am
G4E
your pathetic if you think all the people who commented are different ones ! its joseph K and that African g*t who thought i was a racist because i called ade a cave man ! there just like you , bring out the same old crap talk , because they having nothing else to fight back with !
You can all pretend that our season is still alive but the truth is we have 8 games left and 3 of them are against the top 4 on the road ! We can realistically drop down to 4th again just like last season ! but you all have faith in your fact hugging guru ole ! i truly feel sorry for you all !
Ade hasnt scored in how long ole ? G4e?
Im still baffled to what facts im supposed to hug ?
that we are behind man U in just about every stat imaginable ! ??and ole you talk A LOT OF BOLLOCKS
in what league do we count goals only ? in your fantasy leauge ? because only points and goal difference count here on PLANET EARTH !
so go hug Uranus or what ever planet your from that counts goals only !!! arsenal 36 – man U 44
hug those facts frat boy ..
And no need to tell me how good walcott is YOU NEED TO TELL ARSENE !
Your all childish and in denial
hug the facts ! embrace them !
come the end of the season thats all you’ll be hanging on to ! man U or chelsea wont need to as they will have the EP cup to hang from !
the arsene knows best brigade you are , and you will die by the sword of your own convictions !
you are happy with the club ran this way , accept the consequences for your pathetic knowlegde of football
ole ole ole !
hahaha …
and just to set the record straight i love AFC , just not blind eyed supporters ! who are in total denial
of the club and its current situation !
But if i must be the executioner to serve justice
on the meek , then so be it !
i hate to be the doom monger but lets face it
the stats dont LOOK good to anyone who isnt a hugger . ole !
hahahaha.
By: ethan_goon on March 18, 2008
at 1:59 am
g4E
He is not a fan, we all say it when one of our players is acting or playing bad…
hahaha thats joke ade plays like tripe all season and you defend him ! not only playing bad but acting bad!
to fellow squad members ! he and bendtners hate is well documented if you can read . And all you do is praise the loaf !
i can out gun you all ! because i deal with the facts i’m not afraid to call a spade a spade !
you all have the denial issues not me !
By: ethan_goon on March 18, 2008
at 2:07 am
“Look for instance at our corners and free kicks. Cesc is almost always the taker (during RvP’s absence) and I think the success rate is less than 3%? Don’t we have coaching on this aspect? How can other teams beat us in this?”
We scored from a corner last saturday! And against Blackburn (Senderos), Chelsea (Gallas), Portsmouth (Cesc), and probably some more but I don’t want to do a list thinking about every game from the start of the season.
Ethan:
“Ade hasnt scored in how long ole ? G4e?”
Two matches exactly.
By: Non Edible Nacho on March 18, 2008
at 2:35 am
“he and bendtners hate is well documented if you can read”
Not really. They argued once in a pitch. They sit next to each other in the dressing room and no problems have been known to happen there, for example.
By: Non Edible Nacho on March 18, 2008
at 2:37 am
I haven’t read every post here, but lest we forget that Man Utd and Chelsea have spent the GDP of the African continent on players in the last 2 years. Man Utd are in massive and questionably manageable debt, and Chelsea have a free line of credit that doesn’t have to be paid back. We haven’t had that freedom, but this summer when the Emirates business model is proven to be a successful one and is on the way to being paid for, we’ll be able to spend over 10m on single players again. I’d like a strong finish to this season and then to add some proven talent for next one.
By: gregorio on March 18, 2008
at 2:58 am
nacho ,
they have came out and said that they will work together on the pitch but friendship is out of the question !
FACT
how can you play with that sort of tension? !
2 matches ? you including the c.L ? because we are talking about the EPL and title race !
By: ethan_goon on March 18, 2008
at 3:02 am
His LAST EPL GOAL !
chum o..
By: ethan_goon on March 18, 2008
at 3:03 am
its evident tht for this season wenger has little choice but drag on his thin squad…if we lose at bridge…allllllll over for title race…and i am sure we will be fighting for the 3rd place again
i dont think anyone wud change their views tht still we have improved vastly from last season….but next season no one is gonna see the improvement …only trophies will do….and with the squad remaining as small as now..i dont c us doing much better than this next season even with bothello and/or vela. …same thing will happen again….fatigue by end of season…fabregas is underused helluva lot …for the sole reason of lack of quality upfront.
So in any case wenger’s policy of not buying seasoned stars would require to bend a bit….this season would have been a gr8 time to buy at least one winger (right since vela will anyways be on the left)..and let him to be settled with the team…but wenger wasnt sure about his future at the club, fabregas wasnt sure. uncertainities over clubs success pulled us down ..and now wen they sense we are more than capable of winning the title…we look in shallow waters in more than one ways.
By: gooooooooner on March 18, 2008
at 5:10 am
Holy crap ETHAN do you have nothing better to do man! You seem to be on a one man crusade to prove u have sh@t for brains! If you have nothing intelligent to contribute then you should shut the f*@k up! And thank god your not managing the team coz your vision doesnt go beyond the end of your nose.
Criticising the team, ade and Wenger just shows how little attention you have been paying to the season n the team’s progress. We have a gr8 squad and players we hav just been unlucky with injuries which no team can legislate for and had to rotate a smaller squad leading to fatigue.
Aslo Ive just about had it with all this strength in depth talk! Strength in depth! The fact that we have scored 1 goal less than ManUre with a lengthy injury list has obviously missed u.
Here are the facts on Premiership goals scored
MAN U ARSENAL CHELSKI L’POOL
Ronaldo 22 Adebayor 19 Lamps 10 Torres 20
Tevez 11 fabregas 7 Kalou 6 Gerrard 10
Rooney 8 Rosicky 6 Cole 5 Babel 4
Saha 5 Van Persie 5 Drogba 5 Beny’n 4
Giggs 2 Eduardo 4 Balack 4 Kuyt 3
Ferdinand 2 Gallass 3 Sheva 4 Voronin 3
Nani 2 Flamini 3 W.Phillips 2 Alonso 2
Scholes 1 Walcott 2 Belletti 2 Crouch 2
Park 1 Bendtner 2 Pizzaro 2 Hypia 1
Senderos 2 Masch 1
So what was your point. the facts dont lie do they. Every team has a Player who provides most of the goals. Ade has been doing this on his own all season maybe your too blind to see. He may have lost a bit of form but he has been immense. Ronaldo has been just as prolific as Ade in scoring against the smaller teams.5 past Newcastle in 2 games who cant buy a win! But the goals still count dont they! Obviously Ade must be sh@t.
For all the strength and depth your expert opinion suggests Man U, Chelsea and Liverpool’s huge spending on a big squad is hardly setting the premiership alight and a poor return for the ridiculous money they must be earning. As for Nani, Hargreaves,Carrrick and Anderson who you are constantly singing the praises of, their contribution to Man U has been so immense that betwen them they have scored 2 goals. Even Senderos has scored as much as that whole midfied put together. Strength in depth my arse!
By: Gooner4Life on March 18, 2008
at 6:02 am
Great post G4L,
Ethan wants to be right on something, but he doesn’t know what it is…so he picks up on the wrong player (Ade) and wants to put the whole season on his back blaming him for everything bad with the club. If anything is going wrong, it’s because of Ade, he forgets that football is a team effort…and Ronaldo or Torres would not have scored nothing if they didn’t get help from the entire team. And even though Torress scoring more goals now, his team still in 4th or 5th place…why do you think that is Ethan? Because his team was crap before and now they’re finally getting it together….it’s called a team….one person can’t do it all, the whole team must do it all or you end up with nothing.
Remember 2003, how many goals TH14 scored? How many great players we had? Did we win the title? I wonder why that is?
There is no logic with Ethan, he follows no logic other than Hate Ade logic written and engraved in his tiny football brain.
He forgets that if we didn’t have all the injuries we had…no one would be even close to us by now at the top of the league, so his diminished logic tells him buy more players, if it didn’t work, buy more……still not working, buy Anelka……The other day he stated that Ballack is on a free transfer, so is Pele and Maradona Ethan..what do you think…should we go splash the cash??
Enough on Ethan. What a freaking joke.
—
The strategy of the club is great, safe and sound. If we thought before the season began that we will be fighting for forth place with the Spuds….we are fighting for the title. It can only mean great things for next season, with less injuries, more experience for young players, maybe if the odd talented player comes across we sign him…but we are doing great…..(We don’t need to compete with the “Jones” Ethan, that’s the 30s and 1940s mentality) We need to be smart, and not be like a stupid idiot who never had any money before and when he won the lottery he went and bought the Pyramids….remember Leeds United?
We have a great future, with a great stadium, and a load of young good players…and there will be time and money to buy the odd superstar to please the Ethans of this club, it just not the time to please your fat ego yet Ethan.
G4E
By: Gunner4Ever on March 18, 2008
at 7:18 am
I concur with last two posts.
I read some of BB’s comments and smiled to myself. He is making assumptions where he has no clue.
Arsene deciding unilaterally? What does that mean? Who said he does?
If we don’t win anything this season, so what? Is the club going to collapse? NO! I have a six year old son who now loves the Club and Cesc. Win something or not he does not care. He just loves to say Arsenal is Great and Chelsea are horrible.
And I as a parent know the club is built on foundations and principle that will almost guarantee he will have a life time of saying Chelsea are horrible.
Many here have swallowed, Hook, Line, Sinker, Fisherman and Boots the crap being published by HM Gutter press, SKY and Pundits. To the point where reasonable thinking is lacking amongst most football and sports fans in England.
It is dissapointing to have dropped points, but no one has the God given right to win all.
Even when we’ve won games, praise are rare from such fans. I’ve come here on occassions after wins. And shocked to read comments like “Adebayor should score more with the chances we create”
Personally I still believe we will win something this season, and though not a betting man, this may be the right time to put money on it. Being the ehternal optimist…. What are the odds of winning the double?
By: william on March 18, 2008
at 8:11 am
Can’t we all just get along?! (In an American accent)
By: MeanLean on March 18, 2008
at 9:55 am
They don’t need to be friends to get along OK and play together.
By: Non Edible Nacho on March 19, 2008
at 5:11 pm