Posted by: Yogi's Warrior | March 8, 2008

Arsene Praises, Gets Attacked But Finds A Consoling Hug From Ade

The praise for Cesc continues, this time Arsene shining a light on the bushel of his talent,

I don’t like to say too much that a player is the best but Cesc is not only a talented player but he is also very demanding of himself. If he keeps that he will improve tremendously. People forget that his only 20 and look at the kind of performances he produces and what he did on Tuesday night against big players

It is only right that he gets the plaudits for his displays this season, not just on the basis of the San Siro. He had dipped by his own standards in recent domestic games but hopefully, Milan will prove the boost he needed.

However, Arsene was at pains to point out that the young Spaniard is not working in isolation,

Football is first a team sport and team sport needs time, patience and understanding and it’s not always down to individual qualities. Since the beginning of the season I came out in favour of this team because I feel there is a real hunger, a real desire, a real togetherness and a real spirit in the side. They are happy to have won in Milan but they want more. We are now in the final part of the season and that is when the real strengths of the team come out

And that is the crux to all of their efforts so far; it is what they can achieve. Will they win something as due reward or will it be a ‘Leeds’ season as was so often the case for Revie’s team where they challenged for trophies but in reality won only a small proportion?

Arsene meanwhile was the subject of a pointless attack from Jose Mourinho although as I think about it, I struggle to remember when anything that the sacked Chelsea manager had to say was spouted for reasons that were anything other than nefarious.

Mourinho displayed ‘manager envy’ from being unemployed – ah, there was the point, he’s unemployed and no-one has a beat a path to his door so he needed the oxygen of publicity in his quest for other people’s jobs – and also that Wenger has enough credibility with his employers to be allowed to rebuild a squad. The ‘Setubal Sulk’ relished the opportunity to spend other people’s money with gay abandon and won trophies on the back of it. He was unable to do so with any style or grace on or off the pitch which is reason he was handed his P45.

The response was quite telling, the contempt with which Arsene views his former rival is quite clear and that their philosophies on life appear so at odds with each other that they could never be anything other than the way that they are.

Still, if Arsene was feeling a tad unloved, Emmanuel Adebayor saw to it that the warm feeling in his heart was restored by acknowledging the debt of gratitude

To pay him back is going to be very difficult. At Monaco, from June to December I scored only one goal in 19 games. How come Arsene Wenger came and looked for me? It is something special. He is the one who gave me a chance to become who I am today. I want to keep on enjoying myself and listening to him

The loyalty he engenders amongst the players is something that a lot of industrial leaders would die for. Well, perhaps not that extreme but you get the drift. Adebayor touched on the reason why but Gilles Grimandi elaborated. Put simply, the players know that Arsene really wants them to play for his teams.

Unlike other clubs, we prefer to limit and really follow only a few players. We start to oversee them when they are 16 or 17-years-old and then until 20 if needed. We follow them for three of four years and maybe they will sign one day

Players are not in the dark in this process. Football is an incestuous industry and everyone knows, or has a pretty good idea, of the identities of the leading clubs scouts. When they spend that long following a player on and off the pitch, it makes the player know that they are talented and deemed good enough for a club of Arsenal’s stature.

As a club, Arsenal is not unique in the manner in which they assess potential signings; the key difference with English clubs is the long term and global nature of their scouting network. Everyone else is playing catch up. Whilst that wider view may grate with some, it is an investment in the clubs future and exploiting untapped resources.

Commercially it  makes sense except that for a global business, football is extremely parochial; the governance structure is archaic, smoke-filled rooms, back slapping have simply been modernised into sterile boardrooms and non-descript powerbrokers who lose all sense of proportion thinking that the quick buck is a long term solution. Except the failure to recognise the cyclical nature of the sport is something that will cause many to fall by the wayside.

Take this season’s Champions League Quarter Finals. It is something like the third in four seasons where at least three of the last eight have been English clubs; from the media coverage, you would think that this is how it should be, there is a divine right for this to occur. Arsene put them right on this one, merely that it is a small cog in the cycle that has been going on for decades; the Spanish, French, Italian, German and Dutch have all had periods of dominating the competition as have English teams. Now it is their turn again and no doubt within the next two or three seasons, someone else will be at it and the media bemoaning all of the foreign players as the root cause.

Wigan on Sunday so a Preview of that and the papers in the morning. ’til Tomorrow.


Responses

  1. I found your site on technorati and read a few of your other posts. Keep up the good work. I just added your RSS feed to my Google News Reader. Looking forward to reading more from you.

    Tim Ramsey

  2. Morning to you to YW. What a sobering and very informative post as usual. I totally agree that the philosophy of the club is built around unique aesthetic values part of which invloves nurturing talent and securing the long term future of the club. I can see Wenger trying to emulate an international version of the great Ajax academy of the nintees which brought to the fore gr8 players like Kanu, Kluivert, Bergkamp, Overmars, Litmanen, Davids etc that won the ECL in their youth. We r extremley privileged to have Monsuier Wengers astute stewardship in all things Arsenal.Mourinhp the Moron only added his inflated super ego on top of other pampered egos. You are left with a bench full of overpriced over hyped tat.Good luck to them. What annoys me is that Arsenal are lambasted and chastised for showing heart and emotion and trying to play football like it should and not hypnotise crowds into a permanent state of boredoom as we witnessed when Chelsea played Liverpool.

  3. Gooner4life – it’s the modern disease. Instead of celebrating and admiring Arsene’s effort to win trophies by actually playing football, the petty-minded prefer to pull him down because he is showing them up for what they are. If they cannot compete, they prefer to destroy.

  4. Nothing that comes out of Mourinho’s overinflated ego surprises any more. The one clear thing is that he never came to terms with the fact that Wenger received more respect than Mourinho. The ‘unemployed one’ believes winning is everything but forgot that football is an entertainment business. Wenger and Ferguson proved that you can win and entertain at the same time. Mourinho and Benitez tried (or are trying) but failed miserably.

  5. With his constant quest for attention he knows that by throwing an insult to AW will always get some attention, his ego is far too big to recognise his own bigotory. His fallout with the Russians was as much about drawing the wrong attention as it was playing a dull game, its easy to see how the twat was admired by the twat press.
    I wonder if there is a collective noun for all the twat Journos.

  6. I lost all respect for Mourinho when he lied about being out of the country at the time of the Cashley tapping up. He was and is a dangerous man, because he undeniably has style and humour. The media love him because of his often outlandish quotes – it helps sell papers etc. But it is symptomatic of the current ills besetting the media that he is forgiven his indiscretions. The biggest difference between Mourinho and Wenger – there are many of course – is that one has moral fibre and the other doesn’t.

  7. Agree with all of the comments about Mourinho.
    It will be interesting where he ends up next. Real Madrid look a serious possibility – It would be fantastic for him to go to Real, win the league and still get the sack for the dull brand of football his teams play.

    It might also be amusing to watch the bickering between Real and Chelsea in the process.

    All while we get on with playing good football and hopefully winning a few trophies!

  8. I think Arsene’s comment about cheating to win trophies is more applicable to Ferguson than to Mourinho.

    Remember Sir Alex often use rough tactics to beat Arsenal. Kicking them off the pitch a la Gary Nerville against Reyes. Using his friend Allardyce to kick Arsenal to slow them down enough to overtake them in the title chase.

    Watering OT to destroy the surface to make Arsenal passing game more difficult to function a la recent FA Cup game.Mind you, Chelsea employed similar tactics against Barcelona.

    As for Mourinho, he can’t make it in a smaller club where cash is not easy to come by. He needs established teams like Madrid, Milan, Juventus or big spenders like Chelsea to be successful, ‘cos he’s not a coach but good at managing good players bought with loads of cash.

    Porto had a good set up before he joined. Porto had won 8 league cups consecutively before he joined and just added 3 to it before moving to big spenders Chelsea. CL championship win for Mourinho with Porto? You need tons of luck in the cup competitions that’s why Liverpool beat Milan even though Pool was poor in the league. Same as our own Arsenal that managed to get to the CL finals while playing badly at home.

    Simply put; it’s Abramovich that has made Chelsea the team of today not Mourinho. I don’t think Milan, Madrid, Barcelona will go for Mourinho because his football philosphy; WIN BY ANY MEANS POSSIBLE same as Sir Alex with the FA and refrees backing him.

  9. I am not sure how much Mourinho was ranting about Wenger or the conditions that he & most other managers have to work under.

    It is about different philosophies.

    Arsenal is one of the few top clubs, in the world, where time will be allowed by the board through to the vast majority of fans for a project to be developed over a few years. Maybe AW is under less pressure because of his excellent track record of winning things & the style of football we produce.

    On the other hand with Chelsea etc it is about getting results because of the huge amounts of money being spent.

    Perhaps Man U fall somewhere between the 2 because Fergie deserved the leeway he got in the 3 seasons when they didn’t win the PL.

    It is really a battle between the ‘want it now regardless types’ & the ‘patience makes perfects’.

    Arsene gets attacked so much because he is intellectually vastly superior to anyone else involved in the game, in this country, especially the media.

  10. Flint

    The interview with the Italian paper was pretty specific – he could not work out why Wenger was a hero having won ‘nothing’, forgetting that for most of his time in charge, he has won or been challenging for trophies. Mourinho could not understand the mentality of the Board which emphasises the short-termism that most clubs undertake.

    Howard

    Does Sir Alex ‘cheat’ or is he trying to put pressure on officials in a similar manner to that which others do? That is of course, not a vindication of his methodologies which ought not to happen but Shankly & other great managers have done the same in the past albeit more subtely and in some cases – Revie – more blatantly. Quite simply, it is the way football has always been in one form or another.

    YW

  11. Re Sepp Blatter’s remarks and David Gold’s comments. Nobody is accusing Taylor of deliberately wanting to injure Eduardo BUT, as a professional footballer he must have known that any tackle with his foot raised or turned upwards will probably cause an injury.

    And that is what Blatter is talking about. That this type of tackle must lead to a massive penalty for the perpetrator. The only way to outlaw it is to punish it severely … whether it was intended or not, and whether it causes injury or not. Coaches are well able to ensure that their players do not tackle with a raised foot, and professional players are well able to avoid doing so.

    It’s all about attitude and training, and whilst I often think that Blatter talks nonsense on this occasion I totally agree with his comments …. that not only is the type of tackle unacceptable in a beautiful game such as soccer but that it should be met with severe punishment. I wouldn’t go as far as a life ban but one of 6 months (of a playing season) would not be amiss.

    And as far as David Gold’s defence of his player is concerned his comments are ridiculous – Taylor’s tackle, whether intended or not, has no place in soccer and cannot be excused on the basis that there was no intent, and that Taylor is really just a nice guy.

    Norms

  12. YW

    I thought you’ll deplore Sir Alex tactics of winning at all cost.

    1. Having the FA and match officials backing MANU
    2. Kicking opposing players especially at OT without being cautioned
    3. Using surrogate clubs, Bolton, Everton, Blackburn etc to offer support
    3. Pitch destruction to prevent smooth play

    That’s what I was talking about and its a tactics Arsene will never use just to win; that’s what he was refering to but was not ready to give a name away.

    Sir Alex has achieved a lot but don’t take away the support he gets from the FA. I was suprised to know that after playing at home against the Arsenal they are playing home again against Portsmouth in the FA.

  13. Howard

    1. There is no evidence that FA officials back United; it’s a paranoid theory that took hold some years ago. The same was said of Liverpool in the 70s and 80s.

    2. Again, the thought of other clubs offering support for United is a smokescreen for our inability to cope with a different style of play. I am genuinely baffled that any credence is given to that theory.

    3. Pitch destruction or soaking the surface to make the ball pass faster – two sides of the same coin? In any case, groundsman around the world do the same and in other sports. I presume you abhor cricket because the ways in which test match pitches are prepared is the most blatant case of cheating under the preposition you put forward.

    Sorry Howard but what evidence do you have of the FA having a ‘pro-United’ bias or an ‘anti-Arsenal’ one? Most of it is just old wives tales.

    Cheers

    YW

  14. Yogi;

    If what I heard about the FA Cup tie at OT is true, I would indeed call it cheating.

    Chelsea turning their pitch into a potato field for that Barca game is annoying but not cheating. Everyone has to play on it. But watering one half of the pitch and not the other, then watering the OTHER half of the pitch at half time…that’s an attempt to create an uneven field of play. If I’m not wrong on the facts, I cannot believe more is not made of this.

  15. Yogi I think the paranoia comes form the apparaent bias by referees, media and pundits to be pro United in almost everything. Surely you have noticed this. I think Wenger refers to the intimidation of referees by players ala Roy Keane/John Terry inciting the mob of other Man U Rotweilers short of knocking the referee out to sway a decision, bringing out the hatchet men, Wayne Rooney tumbling to the floor to earn a dubious penalty at OT 2 season ago, Van Nistelrooy doing the same, and yes for the richest club in the world it says a lot about having the pitch looking lyk a potato field one day to kill off a teams passing game through Arsenal were deservedly beaten. So it may be a case of very good gamesmaneship as its not against the rules and therefore not consiered cheating. I also agree that we should not be surprised with how other teams play aginst us these days and I think this is why we also play more route one football launched to the big man at the top and give out a few meaty challenges ourselves now. I suppose its no different for teams setting out to win up Wayne Rooney so that he can make crazy tackles and get sent off!

  16. Nola

    The point is though Arsenal’s pitches are watered more to make the ball move to fit in with the slick passing. It is about making the surface suitable for your style of play. If United watered one half of the pitch more, they shot themselves in the foot as they would have had to play on a ploughed field in the second half, so I doubt that they did it.

    Gooner4Life

    You would find an equal number of people who claim referees are biased in Arsenal’s favour at The Emirates so it is not really much of an argument. As for ’soft’ penalties, again we get our fair share. Referees in general are intimidated by home fans which is why we need to create more of an atmosphere at The Emirates.

    I agree that mobbing up on Refs is outrageous and whilst the clubs get penalised, they do not get dealt with harshly enough. A fine v three points because of swayed decisions. There is one solution though for the referees; when it happens, book every single player in the mob. Guarantee that at least one player from the group will already be on a yellow so be dismissed. It won’t take much for the players to cotton on and drop the habit when they go down to 10 men.

    The problem is that I believe Arsenal have higher standards amongst their fans and we expect the club to be whiter than white. However, others are so murky that a Persil factory could not provide enough detergent to clean the game up.

    There is a world of difference between cheating and our perception of it. No-one has evidence of it otherwise there would have been arrests galore!

    YW

  17. Not sure if you guys would be watching.. I’m surprised, but not really, that Portsmouth have just nicked it at OT in the FA Cup. But the way it happened, it sounds dramatic in text.. Edwin van der Sar got injured and his replacement Kuszczak got sent off, then Muntari scored a goal at OT! I was counting on the FA Cup to keep ManU busy and take part of their attention away from PL/CL for the rest of the season. Oh no (yes?). Have to catch MotD to see what happened there.

    The odds will make it look like Chelsea will get a consolation cup again this year. But now I’d love someone like Portsmouth or even West Brom (who play proper football btw, known as “the Championship version of Arsenal”) to win it!

  18. Lou

    Hadn’t watched it but it is good indeed that United have been beaten. It chips away at the ‘invincibility’ that breeds in the visitors. Instead of thinking that they cannot win, the attitude is that ‘hey, if Pompey can why can’t we’. Be interesting to see if the next few days has the media raises the questions about whether United are cracking up….but I won’t hold my breath!

    There was a good interview with Tony Mowbray (click on his name for the link) in this morning’s Guardian that affirms his belief in playing football the right way to get results and slates the mediocre managers who are deemed personalities. As he said, it’s amazing how many of these ‘characters’ are managers of teams that fail abysmally to live up to their expectations.

    YW

  19. Good point YW. To be honest, it’s been crazy how they kept talking about our ‘crisis’ when we lost Eduardo and failed to win in a few games. Now ManU have failed to win in 3 of their last 5 league and FAC games. I’m sure the press will comfort Sir Red Nose by saying it’s just a blip, no crisis whatsoever. Talk about their infallibility.

    Yeah saw that one on Guardian too. Nice to see some sense and sanity in the press. There’s a good article in the Independent about foreigners in the PL and whether that bothers any fans. Click through my name please.

  20. Lou

    James Lawton? Good Article? I need to lie down; the sky is indeed falling in. In fairness to Lawton, he raises an interesting point or two but lets be honest, the number of foreign players matters more to the tabloids than it does to football supporters.

    England fans, if they look into their hearts, know that the current crop is far from being the ‘Golden Generation’ that they were proclaimed. The simple fact is that there is a hardcore of perhaps four or five who carry the rest of any twenty-two man squad. Instead of acknowledging the dearth of national talent, everyone bemoans foreign players taking their places – much easier to blame someone else than admit your own failings.

    YW

  21. Exactly, the number of foreign players doesn’t bother us at all, no matter what the tabloids or some of the English players say. Yeah James Lawton has been a changed man lately lol

  22. yogi,yo blog is really starting to grow on me so thnk u fr a job well done…before comin here i used to only visit arseblog,but now i have two great reads everyday..thanx!

  23. Yogi, it was not a wet day, so the field was drying out. They were watering the centre and designed their attack to go down the wings.

    I’m more curious as to whether it’s really true that they watered HALF of the field at half time. What can that be but cheating?

  24. Nola

    You might be right but if they were sorting the pitch to suit their needs, what is the difference between that and us watering a pitch to make it slick for passing?

    The thing is one man’s cheating is another’s rule bending. The matter is too subjective to get a consensual answer.

    YW

  25. Not many Prem teams left in FA Cup now. Chel$ki out at well as ManUSA.

  26. Chavski and MANU are both out. I means therefore that three of the top four will end the season without a trophy and definitely it won’t be Arsenal.

    We’re grabbing both the league and the CL.

  27. Yogi, I’m fine with playing on the pitch you want. Both sides have to play on it. But altering only ONE HALF of the field at HALFTIME is categorically different. One side’s offense has to attack on an inferior pitch when the other one’s did not. It’s the very definition of unfair advantage.

  28. Nolaboyd: I agree with your arguement about the pitch watering but we were so poor on the day it did not matter. We will have a worse pitch at Wigan and will need to play better there.

  29. Who says the magic and the romance of the FA cup is dead? =)

  30. There are some rumors we signed another 16 years old (in September) Center half from Spain…Agnasi Miquel.

  31. On Referees & The FA

    Does any one feel the same way I’m beginning to feel? that the referees in England backed by the FA have a big hand in directing where trophies will go. I know a lot will jump on me for the suggestion but a lot of current events and weird decisions makes me feel this way.

    The FA makes it a Taboo to question the referees or FA decisions, and if you appeal you get slammed further. Nationally, the Premier League provides huge revenues in England, and I wouldn’t put it behind the strong hand of huge money making corporations….much like how corporations in the US controls everything.

    Just a thought, I personally hope I’m wrong.

    G4E

  32. The way Adebeyour sucks up to Wenger explains why he is so protected. It does not matter how bad he plays or antagonises team mates he can do no wrong in wengers eyes or sections of the media for that matter. How the sun gave him a higher rating than bendtner is beyond me, the guy is just a poser. The fact that he has scored a certain number of goals is not the issue. How many goals would a better player have scored given the same opportunities. I will always believe that he is responsible if we miss out on the league.

  33. GFE. I am with you on referees. I am convinced that they influence the result of games.


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