The dust is settling on the doused fire that was an exceptionally poor performance at Old Trafford. Whether it was the worst in Arsene’s tenure remains to be seen – perhaps on English soil but for some reason the capitulation in Donetsk or the single goal defeat in Turin in the Champions League seem to stick equally badly in this blogger’s throat.
There is a collective responsibility for the performance and Arsene is criticised in this morning’s Sun by Steve Howard which like many seeks to sensationalise the defeat, suggesting that the manager’s decision to field two ‘novice’ full backs was a tactical ‘flight of fancy’. The truth of the injuries was neatly sidestepped by Howard and the psychological aspect overstated. Were that the case, the squad would not have bounced back from the drubbing at Tottenham. The determination to right that particular wrong showed the mental strength that the players have – it was a similar team on Saturday as on that night – and they are fortunate that the coming week is not for internationals; fall off a bike? Get back on straight away and ride it as the saying goes.
Gilberto may have been substantially below par on the pitch but he has shown the correct attitude for the rest of the squad to follow,
We must bounce back if we want to achieve something. We need to look forward to the next game against Milan
As for warning Nani that he should not have ‘showboated’ well, sorry, to me that does not cut any ice. How often do we do that against teams? Most weeks. OK we may not juggle the ball in our half facing our goal but we think nothing of stringing twenty or more quick-fire passes together, knowing that it is taunting the opposition as if we were in the Plaza del Torros. Indeed, had United been the Matador, they would have been given both ears, the horns, hooves, tail and anything else that was hanging around for their performance. The simple fact is that the players got a bitter taste of their own medicine and did not like it.
The harsh lesson though is self-control and petulant kicks do not display that, nor blatant dives. Despite Gilberto’s assertion – “it was important for us that we didn’t lose control and lose another man” – we were lucky not to finish with nine men. As for Eboué, calls for him to be summarily dismissed are wide of the mark. But not too wide. Arsene will no doubt deal with him sternly and it may be that he will be sold in the summer but right at this moment in time, there has to be a place for him in the squad simply because we do not have the luxury of numbers fit. He is not the best right midfielder in the world but with the tendency for strains and knocks that the current squad has, he will be appearing again in an Arsenal shirt this season.
Arsene sought to inject some humour into the situation,
“We don’t concede many goals but when we do, we do it well”. Asked what information about Arsenal the Milan scouts might relay to their coach, Carlo Ancelotti, Wenger smiled and said he would rather not be so masochistic
The defeat has sparked a fresh round of media navel-gazing, proclaiming that the pendulum has swung away from Arsenal. It is complete rubbish to state that at this moment in time. As Howard acknowledges in his piece, Wenger is a past master at remotivating teams. How often has the side lost to bounce back immediately during his reign. Rather more often than the prophesised disintegration.
It is of course, a testing time to support the club. Losing one big game and another route to a trophy limits those avenues. Instead of four, there are now two potential trinkets to be displayed; a third has a formidable obstacle barring its path to The Emirates. For the players, I suspect, the shameful nature of defeat is a spur rather than a block. It is the senior squad members who have to shrug off Saturday to lead their inexperience counterparts through the minefield to safety, re-assuring any stragglers that it was a ‘blip’, a ‘one-off’ – OK, it has happened twice this season but you get the drift.
For supporters, reactions to results are more extreme. A good win and you are world beaters; a bad performance, sack the lot of them, they are effing-useless. It’s the way of the football world. If the players need to bounce back from it, so do we and look forwards by gaining some perspective on the past.
Right, I’m off to face the Liverpool supporting Boss of mine. Which one of us will be more mentally scarred by the respective FA Cup exits? A quiet day awaits on that front. ‘til Tomorrow.























I thought the showboating was funny, especially when Flamini completely WIPED Nani out! (fairly though).
By: supagoona on February 18, 2008
at 9:32 am
Hopefully Chelsea will draw ManU today. That would make my day.
By: Lincoln on February 18, 2008
at 9:41 am
Nice article, as usual.
Here’s a spurios analogy:
Our first team is a Latour ‘82 red. Youthful vigour tempered with maturity, though not yet fully developed. Excellent delineation, subtle in the mid-range, but also direct up front. This batch is primed for an extended evolution, well into the new century. A legend in the making.
Our reserve team is a dashing, d’Yquem ‘90 white. Irreverent with wonderful interaction, even at this early stage in its evolution. Thrilling potential, but needs the right conditions to grow.
Mix the 2 together, and what do you get?
Brown stuff.
That took too long!
By: Big Al on February 18, 2008
at 9:52 am
Great to see someone finally commenting on the showboating. There was absolutely nothing wrong with what Nani did, and it was nothing but a disappointment to see the Arsenal boys fall for it.
If anything Gallas and Co needed to show some class, like Flamini did with his hard but fair tackle.
By: Spanish Fry on February 18, 2008
at 10:07 am
Flamini’s reaction was superb. he saw Hoyte being taunted and went in to help his friend out and stopped the showboating there and then. Nani did not try anything like that after it. I love Flamini.
If Sagna does not make the game (his brother died in a car crash last week and he is a big doubt for Weds) then I would use Toure at RB and Sendy and Gallas in the middle.
Eboue can leave now for all I care. I know that wont happen but I would seriously rather use someone like Barazite than him again. I dont even care if he he goes for free just get him out of our squad – I am so embarrased by him.
If we can get rid of Gilberto and Eboue, the squad will be strengthened immediately! Players like Song, Randall, Gibbs and Barazite might get their chance next year and we have Vela to come in.
We also need Rosicky back. If he does not return I cannot think of anyone else to do the job. might have to be Eduardo and then with Bendtner and Ade up top.
and yes we miss Diarra. he was under a 4 year contract with us. wenger did not have to let him go, he would have played in most games for us since mid January. Fergie would NEVER have let him go.
By: gazzap on February 18, 2008
at 10:22 am
Sagna: terrible news and my heartfelt condolences.
Not that he will ever read that. I saw an arsenal fans reaction after the match saying personal reasons or not he should have played, seems real insensitive about now huh.
@Gazzap wishful thinking on all fronts if a player wishes to go and starts being disruptive you can bet your bottom dollar Fergie would have sold him. For goodness sake Diarra dropped himself out of a match saying his mind was not in it.
By: klon on February 18, 2008
at 10:35 am
I agree about the showboating. If you are 4-0 up, you have earned the right to piss take.
My biggest gripe is the lack of discipline in the 2nd half. The situation called for common sense but we did not get that from Eboue, Gallas & perhaps Ade, if that was indeed the dive it looked. All it did was provide more sticks to beat us with.
We do not take defeat the right way but I suppose winners never will.
Milan is, of course extremely important, but for me Birmingham is the crucial match. Win there & we can put this behind us.
Love that classy comment Big Al, it does ring quite true.
By: Flint McCullough on February 18, 2008
at 10:48 am
I am with you there Flint,
I want a result at Birmingham more than Milan. I really am not fussed about the Champions League this year and every round we get through is a bonus. I dont think we have the squad to win both and would rely on a fair deal of luck, and sometimes wanting both could end up with nowt.
I personally think winning the Premiership whilst remaining in a large profit in the Transfer Market, and having been written off by nigh on everyone would carry more kudos than winning the Champions League which Porto and Liverpool themselves have prooved that a bit of luck can win it
By: patthegooner on February 18, 2008
at 11:02 am
We’re certain of Sagna’s brother’s death now, but is anyone clear on the details? I’ve heard that it was a car crash but I’ve also read that he was found dead in his bathtub? Makes me want to hear a definitive answer to clarify the mess. Either way, a terrible tragedy.
Patthegooner, I see your point but at the end of the day football is about fun and part of fun is playing the best sides. It is about winning to a certain extent but big games are what I personally live for and I want Arsenal to knock Milan out more than I want them to beat Birmingham. Of course I want both but if I had to choose a game to lose I’d say Birmingham.
By: Spanish Fry on February 18, 2008
at 11:27 am
…given we win the second leg of course
By: Spanish Fry on February 18, 2008
at 11:27 am
does anybody know who will be back for the Milan game apart from Clichy??
What about Rosicky/Diaby,etc..??
I reckon that in Sagna’s absence, Eboue (love or hate him, but there are worse players in our side than him) should play as right back with Hleb ahead of him as in our 05/06 campaign..
again the left side would look to be exposed..
By: BB on February 18, 2008
at 11:37 am
if it meant we go on to lose the league then I would prefer the 3 points from Brum.
I think a semi final place in the CL would be repectable. I dont think we have to win it to say we have done well in the CL. as I say I think, if we get to the semis and win the PL then that is a very good season considering where people thought we were in August.
back to Diarra again. I am not saying it was wrong to get rid of a disruptive player but it should have been on our terms. unless cover was in place he should not have been sold. wenger should have waited til the summer, bought in cover (or known that Song was definitly good enough) and then sold him. leaving us short in the middle of the season is bad planning and it could be the difference between the CL and PL double and no trophies at all, especially if Flam misses any number of games.
By: gazzap on February 18, 2008
at 11:37 am
Saturday will only be a really bad result if we fail to get maximum points in these two games
9th March away at Wigan
5th April Home to Liverpool
Fa Cup weekends when the likelyhood is that both Man Ure and Chelski will be in Cup action. Points in the bag in those two games will go a long way to deciding if we win the League or not.
By: patthegooner on February 18, 2008
at 11:40 am
BB I think you are right, I want Eboue out in the Summer but given what we have, he should play RB against Milan,
By: patthegooner on February 18, 2008
at 11:43 am
It seems to me this season that when we stink we really stink as shown by our poorest performances 3-1 Sevilla, Spuds 5-1 and Man Utd 4-0
The press seem to forget that Man Utd lost 2-0 at home to Coventry City in the Carling Cup. Indeed their lauded youth team lost to Carlisle.
It would have been interesting to see how a fit Denilson compared to his compatriot Anderson. The saddest thing is how much Gilberto has deteriorated this season.
Cesc played poorly but as he had played the previous Monday while suffering from flu. Toure needs a rest to recover from his injury and African exploits as obviously did Eboue who at least apologised to the player after the challenge, he is however after the Terry incident a marked man in the ref’s books.
By: Vivb on February 18, 2008
at 12:03 pm
Eboue starting at right back would certainly cause some controversy on the blogs!
By: Spanish Fry on February 18, 2008
at 12:06 pm
I cant stand the bloke, but you have to see the bigger picture,
Eboue is a better RB that Hoyte at the moment, and given that he will be banned for Birmingham, it seems to make sense to play him. Either that or play Toure at RB and Senderos in the middle with Gallas.
By: patthegooner on February 18, 2008
at 12:10 pm
I have written here before that Eboue was the team inforcer, the bloke that gave out the kicks so that the opposition knew that they could not get away with trying it on our other players. It’s not worth it and he’s now becomming a liability, I would like to see him go.
By: Lancealittle on February 18, 2008
at 12:22 pm
but Eboue was woeful on saturday. he looked utterly knackered and well off form. he touched the ball about 3 times and each time it bounced off him straight to a united player. why use a player who does not deserve a place AND is suffering a ANC hangover simply because he cant play in the following 3 games? that is not a valid reason.
I say dont.
Toure or Hoyte for me.
By: gazzap on February 18, 2008
at 12:26 pm
Sincere condolences to Sanga.
We have so many good managers on this blog I am amazed, seem to remember get rid of Hleb, Sanderos, if Gallas moans again get rid of him bloody hell we would have no team at all thank god you lot are not repeat not the manager. We’ve got a group who want to buy this buy that We have the best manager in the World bar none IMO let him make the decisions. If Eboue is to go he will decide. We lost a game of football we will lose more games of football, we do not have the supreme right to win; its called football. Every blog around is attacking us,(thats only because they suffer from an inferiority complex) and were you expect peace we are attacking ourselves. I think (notice i think) Eboue will play left back if Sanga can not and I would not be surprised to see him play a blinder. Yes he does wine he does or has dived and yes he is bloody annoying but he plays for Arsenal not Manue. While he wears the shirt of our team I will support him and every other Arsenal player. (woops fallen off the soap box)
By: Old Timer on February 18, 2008
at 12:31 pm
woops that should be right back, but you never know.
By: Old Timer on February 18, 2008
at 12:32 pm
Old timer. normally I would agree but there are limits and Eboue has crossed the line. you know as well as I do that his list of indiscretions this season is a very long one. its clear he is not learning. I agree that its down to wenger of course, but I happen to think that wenger will now have had enough. can wenger risk that sort of behaviour in a big game? he knows as well as we do that Eboue is not growing up – wenger can be quite ruthless when he needs to be.
Wenger has his work cut out in the summer replacing Bert/Diarra and Eboue. Bendtner might be sold too (50/50 on that).
@klon you say Fergie would never stand for a moaning player like Diarra and I agree, but his players rarely have a moan even when they are not playing. look at Hargreaves. £17m and played about as many games as Diarra and is about as much a first team player as Diarra was for us, now that he is behind Anderson in the pecking order. you dont hear Hargreaves having a moan and wanting to go to Pompey do you? for one fergie keeps him happy by giving a game in every 4 or 5, which is exactly what wenger should have done, and we should have binned Gilberto in January when it was clear he was on a one way downward spiral. Now wenger needs to find a player who is willing to wait behind Flam, but is good enough to step into the first team when needed – not easy. also how much will that cost? I would say more than the profit we made on selling the excellent Diarra.
Sorry but the Diarra saga has been one of my pet moans this season!
have to say that Man U look good for next season. Anderson and Nani will be bigger players for them. Ronaldo and Rooney will still be there. they just need a big man up front and a player to replace Scholes and Neville and they will be very hard to beat.
By: gazzap on February 18, 2008
at 1:00 pm
Thing is old timer, this blog would be very boring if we did not vent frustrations and opinions about Arsenal. Everyone is a secret manager but I doubt anyone secretly believes Arsene reads this blog (Although he should) and buys, sells accordingly. I really do not see what is wrong with fans talking about who they would like to see at the club and who they feel is maybe not going to make the grade.
I sort of agree with you on the ‘We lost a game of football we will lose more games of football’ comment, but on this occaision it was the manner of the defeat rather than actually losing that has generated the critics
As for Eboue, of course when I am watching Arsenal I will be cheering him on as he is wearing an Arsenal Shirt, but it does not mean that I have to like the guy. I dont think Arsenal need a player who is growing in reputation to be a very dirty diver and I do hope that he moves on in the summer. I understand that frustrations exists in games like that but he is a repeat offender that I have lost patience with, and again the emergence of Flamini showed in his method of dealing with the situation (That tackle was superb).
By: patthegooner on February 18, 2008
at 1:12 pm
gazzap I normally enjoy and rarely pass any contrary comments on your opinions. They are generally well thought out and clearly explained but me old cocker (I must be getting old and tired) the team is in the dumps after Saturdays outing, why do we have to attack them. Yes if the Boss gets rid of Eboue you and many other supporters of the same opinion will be right. But over the years since the boss has been in charge he seems to make the bad boys good. I was tearing my hair out over RVP in the beginning, and yes the Boss has given him time in Eboue case but I think as long as the Boss has him in the side he will turn him. Could I little me be wrong you bet your right of course but at the moment he seems to have stopped the diving, does not moan as much, and maybe just maybe he will get his act together.
By: Old Timer on February 18, 2008
at 1:14 pm
forgot TIME WILL TELL.
By: Old Timer on February 18, 2008
at 1:16 pm
Old Timer – I’m with you on blog managers, and we’re perhaps all guilty of being them at one time or another, of-course I support Arsene in whatever his decision, but I personally feel Eboue is deserving of all the stick he’s getting right now. I can take pretty much anything, but a complete lack of care or effort is sure to get right to the heart of a fan. It’s the most basic requirement we require of our players. I can pretty much accept all of the hopeless performances on Saturday, I can reason them out. Hoyte isn’t good enough, he needs to move on, he wanted to do well, but he’s not a good enough footballer. Traore I believe has the talent, but seems to freeze on the big stage right now, he looked incredibly nervous, I’m sure he wanted to do well, he did appallingly etc. etc. When it comes to Eboue, I just don’t believe he’s trying, I don’t believe in him any more. I’m sickened by a guy that refuses to work for his team mates. I don’t care how talented they are, if a player doesn’t want to play for the club, or is unwilling to try, he has to go. I was similarly sickened when Henry would throw one of his tantrum games, and would sulk-walk the pitch for 80-90 minutes. Henry would maybe do that during 10% of his appearances, it was enough for me to severely doubt his team-ethic. With Eboue it’s nearer 90%, and there’s no doubting he has either the worst attitude of any player I’ve ever watched, or he has massive mental/confidence difficulties, I hope it’s the latter. I’ve got nothing against him, I hope he gets over “it” and enjoys a solid career somewhere else, but I’ve seen enough.
By: hboy on February 18, 2008
at 1:19 pm
My condolences to Sagna’s family.
Back to the issue at hand, I never really did like Eboue at right midfield, he was too defensive, which is ironic given that he is, some would say, too attacking for a full back. However, I think Eboue at full back combines his best attributes; not that we have much of a choice though, as the other alternative is Hoyte, who I do rate, but hasn’t really had a good season compared to last.
I’m not sure if Clichy will make it for AC Milan, but if he doesn’t, why not put Gallas there? He did pretty well in place of Clichy at the start of last season. I know we’ll lose some of that width and pace, but I feel Gallas can get the job done. Senderos can replace his position in the middle with Toure.
I do feel that given AC is playing their reserve keeper, having not played since 2003, it is quintessential that we test him, regardless of shape or form. I would like to see Ade and Eddy up front, but again, I’m unsure as to whether Ade will make it. Wasn’t he injured against Man Utd? Anyway, as to which one I’d prefer to win, I’m not all that fussed really, as long as we win one, because I doubt we can win two. But, who knows?
By: Josh on February 18, 2008
at 1:19 pm
Old Timer, it’s good to hear some support for the team. They know exactly what went wrong they don’t need any armchair managers on their backs. They have only lost 3 times in all competitions this season, so let’s put this in perspective please.
By: Passenal on February 18, 2008
at 1:34 pm
I dont think people on these blogs are on their backs. its not like they are on here reading the blogs. if you boo or chant bad stuff at a game then that is far worse. Personally, I would not even boo Eboue while he is our player but I think some fans might. but I will happily come on here and slate him if he is acting like a prick.
I think the FA cup draw was pretty good for us. Man u have a tricky game – Pompey are a decent side with Diarra. chelsea have to go away to a hostile ground with a dodgy pitch (barnsley) – you never know. replays all round please!
By: gazzap on February 18, 2008
at 2:08 pm
I dont think people on these blogs are on their backs. its not like they are on here reading the blogs. if you boo or chant bad stuff at a game then that is far worse. Personally, I would not even boo Eboue while he is our player but I think some fans might. but I will happily come on here and slate him if he is acting like a pr*ck.
I think the FA cup draw was pretty good for us. Man u have a tricky game – Pompey are a decent side with Diarra. chelsea have to go away to a hostile ground with a dodgy pitch (barnsley) – you never know. replays all round please!
By: gazzap on February 18, 2008
at 2:08 pm
Passenal,
Again, it is not the loss that bothers me, it was the lack of effort and desire that has riled up the supporters especially those 9000 that paid a lot of money to watch it.
I think you can see that in the posts, they are not blaming tactics, or dodgy refereeing decisions, the balme lay purely at the feet of a half hearted effort that was magnified by a cheating thug doing something that is unfortunately in Charachter rather than out of it. it was a weird night, as I watched the game in the belief that we would be lucky to force a replay yet that manner of defeat nearly ended up in me watching Fever Pitch again to cheer up.
I am also in no doubt that the performance on Wednesday will be 200% better than that and the team will also bounce back against Brum next saturday. Oh and we play first at the weekend so what a chance to go 8 points clear
Come On Arsenal.
By: patthegooner on February 18, 2008
at 2:09 pm
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By: Where will the surprise be in the Champions League? - Reuters Soccer Blog on February 18, 2008
at 3:05 pm
Gunners, much as I believe Ebue was piss poor on saturday, we should all remember that the whole team was poor, bar Jens. Slating or calling for his sell is understandable, but lets step back a moment..
Ebue has speed, can dribble and can cross very well. The only thing is his complacency, which is more of a mental thing (motivational, moreorless). AW needs to do a one on one with him and he may just turn out good. Remember the 2-1 win against Man U, was a fantastic Ebue cross to TH
By: confidentgoner on February 18, 2008
at 4:45 pm
Ok, guys. How many have watched the game again?
The ManU game before Milan, is certainly an unwanted one as far as Wenger is concern. And I as a fan agree.
Kolo and Eboue were not ready to be drafted couple that with two full backs that do not play regularly. We were certain to strugle.
The performance was not good enough, because under normal circumstances that team will not be drafted again ManU. The dynamism of our game this season is built to no small degree on the defensive and offensive capabilities of our full-backs.
Frankly I’m not bothered ManU won good luck to them. Since last season Wenger has insisted the time has come to prioritise competitions and that the domestic cups are sometimes a hinder and disrupt the main goals (Winning the league and doing well in Europe).
In the past two or three seasons, can anyone tell me how many Premier league teams we’ve drawn in both domestic cups? I am willing to bet it is more than ManU, Chelski or Pool.
I will not slag our players, I try as much as possible to understand the Managers point of view. And in Wenger we have a very smart Manager.
By: shango on February 18, 2008
at 4:48 pm
to be fair as much as I dont like Eboue for his antics, he does have his better games in the big fixtures since he has been with us. for some reason he plays far far better in the big games. I think we have already established the problem is in his brain so clearly when he is up for it and is nervous he just plays better. chelsea at home was his best game of the season so far despite his stamp on Terry. when the pressure was on in the CL run a few years ago he was very good. he supplied the cross for Henry againt Man U. perhaps wenger knows his big game temperament is good so keeps him in the squad.
I still dont think its enough and I dont like players who are up and down and only play in the big games (some players are the other way round and go missing in the big games). well, AC milan is certainly a big game so if there is a chance to redeem himself – this is it.
On Arsenal.com wenger has hinted that he may use Gilberto to mark Kaka. anyone else worried by that? Kaka has amazing movement – Gilberto barely gets out of a jog these days.
By: gazzap on February 18, 2008
at 5:06 pm
If the boss fiels Bert against milan, then alsalavista for the CL. I hope he is just selling a dummy
By: confidentgoner on February 18, 2008
at 5:24 pm
Wenger, never marks man to man…so I will take this hoping it is a dummy from him.
By: Gunner4Ever on February 18, 2008
at 5:30 pm
Condolences to Bacary Sagna and his family.
He was sorely missed, partly because of Hoyte’s inexperience and more of Eboue’s lack of effort. Otherwise we didn’t look like any semblance of a threat to ManU. I was so sad watching the 1st half.
I caught a bad cold last Saturday and it’s really late in Hong Kong so I went to bed at half time – the first time I ever stopped watching in the middle of an Arsenal match. Didn’t read much news as I needed a lot of rest these few days. Having come back to London and seen more news and online articles/comments, only now do I realise really how bad the performance was. Maybe some of us are still in the heat of the terrible defeat, but I feel the likes of YW and Flint and some of you are fair enough.
And Rosicky’s set to miss the Milan game, according to Sky. I’m hoping Ade and Clichy can make it back. We desperately need them against Milan. We also need Senderos back (can’t believe I’m missing him!) in case Toure might have to fill in for Sagna.
All that said, I’m confident the guys will bounce back from the defeat. After Spurs we said it’s a blip and we bounced back. Although this one looked a bit worse than the Spurs one (!), I think we’ll be able to bounce back with a couple of players back.
By: Lou on February 18, 2008
at 5:49 pm
Hboy. Read my comments at the end of yesterdays blog and put them in your pipe and smoke em! Youre a know it all idiot!
By: Kev on February 18, 2008
at 5:51 pm
What Eboue did was not as blantant as Gallas did. So the guy got sent off. I think the straight red was too harsh on that challenge. Most people don’t mention that we were lucky not to have both Gallas and Eduardo sent off(Eduardo’s challenge with both studs snarling) It could easily have been interpreted as a 2 footed challenge. The chap(Eduardo) didn’t mean any harm, just a little clumsy. I doubt that Fabregas would shine if played as a CD. Give Eboue some credit for what he has done for Arsenal. Who would have thought Lauren wouldn’t have been missed?
By: TayGoon on February 18, 2008
at 5:59 pm
What Eboue did was not as blatant as Gallas did. So the guy got sent off. I think the straight red was too harsh on that challenge. Most people don’t mention that we were lucky not to have both Gallas and Eduardo sent off(Eduardo’s challenge with both studs snarling) It could easily have been interpreted as a 2 footed challenge. The chap(Eduardo) didn’t mean any harm, just a little clumsy. I doubt that Fabregas would shine if played as a CD. Give Eboue some credit for what he has done for Arsenal. Who would have thought Lauren wouldn’t have been missed?
By: TayGoon on February 18, 2008
at 6:00 pm
Sorry for double posting, net issues.
By: TayGoon on February 18, 2008
at 6:01 pm
I agree with the ones saying that Nani did nothing wrong. Gallas was the one behaving poorly on Saturday. He should know better than that.
By: Non Edible Nacho on February 18, 2008
at 6:15 pm
Gallas escaped FA punishment.
Quit hanging our players, we don’t condon delebrate kicks & tackles….but we do get kicked off the park and no other team, newpaper, or a pundit cries about us. Remember Man Ure ending the 49 run? They just say Arsenal is not physical enough.
By: Gunner4Ever on February 18, 2008
at 6:21 pm
Well written article as per usual Yogi, we were substandard and i think it is clear that Gilberto is past his best and that Traore may show great potential his inexperience means he switches off too often, and against a dynamic attack like man u that is always going to end in disaster.
On the plus side tho we have no new injuries but rosicky has not recovered in time for milan.
By: THE SILVER GUNNER on February 18, 2008
at 6:31 pm
Our most promissing loanee Gibbs is being attacked by Norwich City fans.
Click my name for the link if it works.
By: Gunner4Ever on February 18, 2008
at 7:50 pm
Have to disagree with you on Nani. Arsenal do mock the other team with their game of keep-away, but that’s because they do it so well, not because keep-away is a wrong part of the game — all teams try to keep the ball when on the lead and — as important — not wanting to humiliate the other team further. Let Nani pull such a stunt a few more times, and he will pay — older professional athletes will not tolerate it. And as immature as it was, it was also foolish — he ran the ball back to the goal instead of kicking it back to the goalie — not smart football, but arrogant and risky. What if he stumbled, or mis-juggled a little, he gifts Hoyte a free run in on goal.
As for Eboue, have the fans ever given him a break? I don’t think so — many of them still don’t like Adebayor. From afar, its impossible to tell, but I think he will start Wednesday and that Arsene will give him at least another year to become a complete winger. He does have to grow up, though.
Oh yes, I’m sure your boss feels much worse than you. Both Liverpool and Chelsea continued the stellar form they showed in their match against each other last weekend.
By: Joel Cairo on February 18, 2008
at 8:45 pm
a sensible calm collected analysis, I agree with it
By: 1979gooner on February 18, 2008
at 9:40 pm
For Gilberto to play it would mean not having Cesc & Flamini in there, surely not. Even if a slower paced game is likely I would be fearful of Gilberto trying to shackle Kaka & Gatuso with possibly Senderos behind covering, we’d lose the tie by half time. Gilberto could do a job smothering in a 2nd leg 4-5-1 but not Wednesday.
If Gallas does have to play left back then Toure has to play alongside Senderos and Eboue right, a prick he may be but Eboue is still our second best right back. What’s the alternative, Gilberto alongside Senderos? Please God no! Traore and Hoyte are not good enough yet so it’d be crazy suggesting either for this one.
Rosicky’s abscence could be a bigger problem I’d suggest, Hleb would be our only descent wide player on either side, again.
By: KMC on February 18, 2008
at 11:30 pm
That link and article about Gibbs indicates he’s being treated far too harshly. Silly Norwich fans.
By: Spanish Fry on February 19, 2008
at 1:36 am
Not sure if you guys get Espn Press Pass but just watched it and the panel totally dismissed the loss to Manure as just a poor performance from us and Man U getting it perfect on the day.Noboby, even Tommy Smith read anything into the win.Just an off day by a poor side on the day.End of.Yet people here totally wrote off their own team for the season.Pathetic.I didn’t even blink after the match, moved on immediately knowing it was a team whose heart just wasn’t in it and they were tactically outsmarted on the day.Will it happen again?? No.One off performance.
By: richard on February 19, 2008
at 3:51 am
I feel we knew before start we r gonna be below our best, and should have switched to 4-5-1 from the start and try to counter attack. Most of us werent expecting a win but we could have tried the way other teams do when facing a superior team (man u were the better team for me even before the start, gilberto- cesc partnership was never gonna work the way flamini -cesc does).
wenger never had the history of tactical success on field, thts y most of us thot at the start of the season and january that we should dip in the transfers for a left winger and a full back. Thts beginning to hurt us now.
By: rohan on February 19, 2008
at 8:03 am