When Arsene Wenger finally decides to relinquish the throne at Arsenal, he will be remembered as the clubs most successful manager of all time, winning more silverware than any other manager. It will be of debate as to whether or not he was the most influential, that legacy cannot be fully determined until there have been successors.
Where posterity records Wenger amongst all managers is a matter for huge debate. There are differing measures against which ‘greatness’ in the managerial stakes is applied. It seems that to be considered truly great, emerging victorious from European competition is a yardstick by which achievement is gauged. In this aspect, Wenger is deficient despite having two bites at the cake, the first of which in 2000 still escapes rational explanation. Of all the nights for the team to put in a poor performance, it had to be that one! In particular, the failure to win the Champions League dogs him at the moment. Paris remains the ‘one that got away’ but equally, quarter final defeats against Chelsea, when the winners should have gone on to win the trophy such was the paucity of opposition, and Valencia are arguably of equal standing in this respect. Busby, Clough, Paisley and Ferguson have this bauble in their trophy rooms. Others such as Nicholson, Revie and Shankly won other European trophies – some on more than one occasion.
Domestically, Wenger stands as a peer to any of them. He may not have won the League Cup but to have done the double twice is an achievement matched only by Ferguson. There are of course, rewards that stand him apart from others. An undefeated League season; another where there were no defeats away from home; the longest run undefeated in English history amongst them.
What really decides whether a manager is great or not is the situation that they inherited, what that became and what they left behind? None have been so successful that there have not been fallow years for their clubs at some point in time. Busby rebuilt United after Munich to a peak of the European Cup in 1968; there followed a few trinkets here and there until their first Premier League title in 1990s. Shankly took Liverpool from the depths of the Second Division and laid the foundation for fifteen years of dominating English football. Managers such as Clough, Revie, Nicholson had fleeting spells of glory only to see this washed away either at their own failings or the hands of others who succeeded them.
There is a common element though with them all; they rebuilt clubs from varying standpoints. Some – Shankly, Clough and Revie – from lower divisions to the summit; others from lower status in the top flight than expectations surrounding their clubs demanded. All have one thing in common; they built teams, disbanded them and the rebuilt. Clough never quite mastered that art but built successful teams at Derby and Forest in testing circumstances. Paisley had perhaps the highest starting point of all but maintained that win trophy after trophy to the extent that his joke that Liverpool had a ‘bad year’ when finishing second had more than an element of truth in it.
Wenger is on his third Arsenal team and arguably his most important. The other two have been built on transfer dealings. This one is laying the foundations for the future, putting his reputation to the fore. Whilst the stadium was being constructed, there were limited transfer funds which required an unparalleled knowledge of the world game. The scouting network that has grown under him has meant that more financially powerful clubs are playing catch-up, something unrivalled in the past. The key to this is having a youth set-up that delivers to the first team, negating various rules and regulations about ‘home – grown’ players which may or may not become more stringent as the years pass. Every manager will sign players from other clubs, it is impossible to become self-sufficient due to the limitations of squad sizes.
Ferguson had his ‘Golden Generation’ which came to fruition in 1999; he has never replicated that. Wenger may yet reap the benefits of his Academy but he benefits from ‘improved’ communications where there is more information about the progress of youths and reserves than in the past. Looking back, Kevin Campbell’s reputation was built upon those who saw the reserve games and reported back by word of mouth or via matchday programmes that reported him scoring goal after goal at the younger levels. Now, the advent of websites such as Youtube and streaming of games, club TV channels means such progress can be more closely scrutinised.
The legacy Arsene will leave is in the ‘science’ applied to the players in terms of diet, care and training. Others have brought on board his ideas in England and applied their own variants to this. He was by no means the first to do so in Europe but was a pioneer on these shores. The football side of the club will be assured for successors also but whether they chose to squander this or build upon it remains to be seen. Each man believes in their own route to success and more than likely, elements of the operation will be changed to suit those.
His reign at the club has made it more popular than ever and with that comes a rising expectation. He has made mistakes and is not perfect, nor does he claim to be. However, it should not be forgotten how listless the club was prior to his arrival, drifting aimlessly into the football wilderness following on from the end of George Graham’s reign. In re-igniting Arsenal for a sustained return to pre-war Glories, he has assured himself a place in the top ten of the greatest managers of English clubs. There is time yet to improve that rating.
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For me Arsene is the reason i love the club..the philosophy..the intelligence..the beauty..the discipline..the vision..the grace..winning mentality..conviction..he has it all..
the yardstick to judge him is not only the trophies he brings in..but the fact that he defines arsenal..he helped club to get to another level..we shud appreciate it more by the fact that our stadium was built not from ownership changes but working within our limits and yet being successful..
another yardstick is he doesnt just go out and buys players but consistenly replaces them by discovering them..unlike most top managers..like fergusson who has just bought success with rooney ..tevez..rio..and jose with chelsea and even benitez for that instance..not only that he has spent lesser than lesser clubs and yet is top of the league and always competitive..
when we dont know who our owners will be..we know one thing that arsene is going to be there..till that time i am not worried..i am just afriad the way he leaves arsenal..i dont know whether my love for my club will remain the same..for now..i love arsenal cause i love arsene..
By: adc on February 6, 2008
at 8:27 am
A brilliant & well thought out article, YW.
I don’t think there is any point in ranking great managers against each other. They have all achieved wonderful things for their club(s) in different eras & different circumstances.
Today it is right that Matt Busby is mentioned. I saw the ‘Babes’ last game in England. They were a wonderful side that would have got even better. The tragedy made United what it became, the most popular club in English & probably world football.
The most influential manager of Arsenal was Herbert Chapman, simply because without him there would not have been the Arsenal, as we know it, for AW to come to.
Arsene came to us at a time of enormous change in English football. He is a unique figure just perfect for the ethos of the club. He was made for the club & vice versa.
Adc says it all really.
We have something unique at Arsenal that most of us treasure.
By: Flint McCullough on February 6, 2008
at 10:05 am
he has proved himself to be one of the all time great managers. any football fan in the world would name him in their top ten, or better, of all time. Many people outside England dont know Paisley, Busby and Clough. Wenger is world famous and respected.
But one day he has to leave and that wont affect my love for Arsenal, just as when a player I love leaves, my love for Arsenal is not affected. Arsenal is bigger than any one person and that includes Wenger.
I loved Arsenal even when Rioch was in charge – not saying I loved Rioch but I loved Arsenal and was hoping he would not damage the club too much. Luckily he bought DB10 so redeemed himself!
Flamini picked up an injury last night. forced off after 15 minutes but no one knows how long it will keep him out for. read Goodplaya or Cannon for more. this is mega bad news given that we dont have Diarra anymore. no one else can provide the quality that Flamini does in DM. He simply has to be fit for Milan.
By: gazzap on February 6, 2008
at 10:08 am
gazzap
Until something concrete comes out about Flamini and Diaby, I would not get overly concerned. There will no doubt be initial reports that seek to scaremonger so on this occasion, it might be best until the club says something.
YW
By: Yogi's Warrior on February 6, 2008
at 10:22 am
Yes indeed Gazzap, my sentiments entirely about the club.
It is gutting about the injuries but we have always had these problems & someone will step up if necessary.
By: Flint McCullough on February 6, 2008
at 10:35 am
Nice article, but I would like to clear up one thing. Man utd ‘Golden Generation’ was not created by Furguson they were already in the youth setup prior to his arrival, yes he did pick them for the first team, but who wouldn’t. What Furguson did after that was to disband the Man U youth policy and is now desparately trying to rebuild it in the copycat way of his, creating players of the standard of Fletcher, say no more.
By: Lancealittle on February 6, 2008
at 10:41 am
nice piece, again cant add to much to wats already been mentioned about the great man, just hoping he’s around for as long as possible because his legacy at the club certainly will be around for a long long time, btw yogi when i first saw ur blog name i immediately thought..RVP! u a leftie too?
By: SudaniGunner on February 6, 2008
at 10:42 am
Lancealittle
In fairness to Ferguson, he had been there seven years before Beckham, Neville & Co came through so he does deserve some credit for it.
Lets face it, Ferguson has used the resources available to him, ie cash, and he has been hit and miss when it comes to spending big. However, since the EPL inception, he has consistently delivered trophies.
Whilst you may not like the man, his record should not be belittled or decried. Had he taken the Arsenal job in the mid-80’s when it was offered, who knows where the club would be now.
YW
By: Yogi's Warrior on February 6, 2008
at 11:02 am
Arsene’s achievements speaks for themselves, not cheap talk by the many hucksters and flim-flam men we are forced to endure in football and throughout our daily lives. He is loved worldwide because of his commitment to winning by playing beautiful football. Even more significant for us Arsenal fans in the African diaspora is Wenger’s commitment to choosing players on merit and not on the basis of their passport. Long may it continue!
By: shotta gunnah on February 6, 2008
at 11:07 am
I am too young to remember H.C. but the voice of my father rings in my ears today about the exploits of the Arsenal team of the 30’s. I too believe that it is very difficult to judge managers of the quality spoken about against each other in your article. Busby will always spring to mind remembering the magnificent Busby Babes, and the shame that players of the quality of Duncan Edwards were lost to the game. Even a a devout Arsenal fan the last game between Man Utd and Arsenal will linger in my mind forever. Bertie brought joy to me as an Arsenal fan starved of success, George likewise but The Boss takes the cake the finest manager so far to date in my life time. But finally as gazzap said the love of the club remains supreme, and long may it do so.
By: Old Timer on February 6, 2008
at 11:44 am
He is Arsenals greatest manager but there is one trophy he needs to win to put him amongst the all-time greats and that is the Champions League.And to say no one outside England knows who Busby and Paisley are is not true.Paisley is the most succesful manager of all time.Its like saying fans in England did not know who Capello was till this year
By: don the gooner on February 6, 2008
at 12:53 pm
The guys has laid the gauntlet for other managers. He has set the standard. With so many billionaires trying to buy Premiership clubs it will only be a matter of time before business-minded owners start demanding that managers be more like Arsene: able to do the business of football and able to do the science and art of football; Perfectly!
It will be able to find better records in the modern top flight; A manager that has transformed a club as much as Arsene has.
We are now truly one of the world’s biggest clubs, with one of the most valuable brands, and one of the clearest upsides in terms of business value.
We can now match Real, Barcelona, AC Milan and Man U, buck for buck, and sooner or later we’ll dominate Europe.
I’m an Arsene Wenger disciple. Long Live King Arsene!!!
By: Ole Gunner on February 6, 2008
at 1:18 pm
I wouldn’t have thought anyone would deny that Billy Nicholson,Bill Shankly & even Don Revie were all time greats, but none of them won the EC.
In the same category would be Stan Cullis (3 League Championships at Wolves) & Alf Ramsey, who’s biggest achievement was taking little Ipswich Town through the divisions to the League title itself. That is consistency over a long period rather than winning what is essentially a cup competition, a huge one but nevertheless just that.
You just cannot compare, you just have to appreciate what each of these great men have done for the history of the game.
By: Flint McCullough on February 6, 2008
at 1:42 pm
Yogi, you have done something dangerous–given me the opportunity to talk about why I admire AW. I apologize for the inevitably very long post but I cannot miss the opportunity.
I started watching Arsenal under Graham only because at the time I was periodically visiting England (for school and work purposes) and hanging out with friends who happened to be gooners. I’m a Brazilian and I can’t say I admired the football on offer but over time, due to the influence of my gooner friends, and becoming acquainted with the players and the “feel” of the club (something I can’t really express well), I started to develop a fondness and interest in the team. And I realized that even tho I didn’t always like the football, I’d found myself supporting it.
Then AW arrived and like so many I was fascinated and intrigued by this very different kind of manager, so unlike your typical English manager in so many ways — just his physical appearance and bearing was different.
Then to see the way he handled the British media after those filthy smears came out about him (invented by the spuds — it is the principle reason why I will always have a deep, burning hatred for them) was to witness a spectacle in pure class. The boorish, vulgar British media were flummoxed and silenced. The fact that he has borne this filth for 11 years is a testament to the man’s character.
I don’t know how to measure AW in comparison to his peers. All I know is that he is by far the most unique football manager I’ve ever known. I spent most of my life following South American football, I was never terribly interested in European football, tho I always knew something about the top clubs there. It’s only in the last 15 years that I’ve become more informed about European managers, and I know quite a lot about South American managers (club and country).
There are many whom I respect but for me none of them are as unique as AW. I don’t think you can fit AW into a neat category of manager. He’s a bundle of unique and contradictory qualities. He’s a pragmatist with an economics degree yet has a passionate, dedicated belief in entertaining, artistic football. He’s got the head of an economist and the heart of an artist.
I am always fascinated to see how he holds himself together during games because I know (as he himself as both demonstrated and said) that he has a very passionate, emotional side to him and that if he doesn’t control himself he’d be far more demonstrative on the touchline (he calls it his “dark side”). He said in an interview that if he doesn’t control himself he’s afraid of what will come out.
I am reminded of that story about how early on in his career at Arsenal, after one of his first losses, he locked himself in his office and would not come out for a long time, no matter how much Dein and others knocked on the door begging him to open the door.
I recently saw an interview with him on the half-hour show PREMIERE LEAGUE WORLD shown on the Fox Soccer Channel here in the US. I had to record it. The thing about AW is that he is almost never boring to listen to. I love how he makes reporters laugh during his press conferences. Only when–right after a game–he repeats the same stuff about the team having “mental strength, belief” etc. does he get predictable. (And how unpredictable can you get when asked to describe your team’s performance every week)?
TO BE CONTINUED
By: marcus on February 6, 2008
at 2:21 pm
What struck me about the interview was one of the principle reasons why I strongly identify with him and his life experience, and his world view. After talking about his origins in France, he discussed his experience in Japan and what it taught him. He said that living in Japan taught him patience and tolerance because he felt often alone and apart, observing a dramatically different culture than the one he was raised in.
He talked about his approach when he first arrived at Arsenal, how he deliberately didn’t change very much, that he wanted to keep faith with the traditions of the club, that he wanted to be surrounded by people who had the club in their genes.
The interviewer also asked him about the constant criticisms of him fielding so few English players in his first team. He said that until recently there were not enuf English players with the kind of skills he was looking for and then mentioned how the Arsenal academy has some good English kids coming thru.
The interviewer also asked him if he still felt French and he answered in exactly the way I would — that he still feels French (even tho he doesn’t feel at home in France anymore) but much more than that he feels he is a world citizen. He said that like so many people who’ve traveled and lived in other cultures he never feels truly at home anywhere but not foreign anywhere — and that home is where he lives, wherever it is.
He said that he was raised on the German border in a bi-cultural atmosphere and that it is in his genes to be comfortable with and respect other cultures; that there are things he prefers about French culture and things he prefers about English culture; there are good and bad things about every culture. In other words, he cannot be labelled with any slapdash, simplistic nationalist stereotypes.
Anyone accusing him of being “anti-English” and somehow tribally loyal to France really doesn’t get him. As he said, everyone he’s ever met who’s traveled and lived in other countries feels the same way — while you still harbor an attachment to your home country, you become unmoored from nationalist tribal loyalties. This matches my own experience, having studied and lived in Europe, Latin America and the Middle East.
AW is truly color-blind, blind to ethnic/religious/national identities when it comes to his team. This attitude — as well as his deep love for entertaining, exciting football — informs his indifference to int’l football. He has more of an interest in int’l rugby tournaments than int’l football. He really sees nationalist loyalties as anachronisms.
This is why this team that he has created is so remarkable — a multinational team comprised of players few had ever heard of, growing together from very young ages, learning to play fast, creative, exciting football. How many managers can say they’ve created something so unique almost from scratch?
He was also asked about his famed obsession with football in his private life, and does he ever relax and get away from it. Is it true that he walks his dog, he laughed and said yes — and added that he still thinks about football while walking his dog. He said he watches a lot of football but for him it is not work, it is something he enjoys.
In another fantastic interview on the Arsene’s XI dvd (available on the official website), he’s asked about his favorite music, book, film, etc. I was struck that he said his favorite book is HOW GREEN WAS MY VALLEY, likening the way the people in the book work together in a Welsh mining town with the way a football team should work. Even there he can’t stop thinking about football.
He’s an enormously cultured, worldly, intelligent man with a strong vision and I think that’s why he gets so much stick because people feel threatened by that and imagine that he’s somehow looking down on them. They project their own insecurities onto him. They’re more comfortable with a Sam Allardyce.
If we are to measure the value of a manager by how unique and powerful his imprint has been on a club–how much he’s transformed a club’s entire culture, identity, enriched it financially and elevated its int’l prestige–there’s no contest. He is at least in the game’s top 5 or 10.
By: marcus on February 6, 2008
at 2:32 pm
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By: theo scores on the press « 7am Kickoff on February 6, 2008
at 2:41 pm
What a great contribution, Marcus – you’ve hit the nail on the head!
By: FunGunner on February 6, 2008
at 3:37 pm
marcus….thank you (x3). Your take on AW is priceless & on point!
Truth is the world needs leaders like Arsene Wenger who embody universal principles in their work. Principles borne out of inner honesty, courage, experience & faithful self-confidence. This man gives so much validation to those of us who have opted for the path less travelled
By: Aman on February 6, 2008
at 4:01 pm
Its DB10 that invariably led me to Arsenal and so I have loved Arsenal mainly in the AW years. IF he leaves I am sure I will continue to love the club though since I survived post DB10.
I also believe Arsenal is a unique club n terms of value and class. Long may these last regardless of who is player or coach.
By: Team Spirit on February 6, 2008
at 4:45 pm
Marcus well done. you ABSOLUTELY hit the nail on the head there. What a well written piece.
Glad you didn’t ass up the opportunity to talk of AW
By: Team Spirit on February 6, 2008
at 4:54 pm
flamini had calf injury according to l`equipe.
By: manu-adebayor on February 6, 2008
at 5:17 pm
Appreciate the kind words.
BTW, I cannot see myself abandoning Arsenal when AW leaves. Arsenal is the only club outside the two that my family has traditionally supported in Brazil that I have supported. I don’t take the act of choosing a club to support lightly, to me it means a real commitment. Over the years Arsenal has meant a lot to me other than AW — friendships formed, an attachment to the club’s history, a love of Highbury the few times I attended games there, the entire culture of the club. I know I’ll be a lifelong Arsenal supporter long after AW retires, regardless of the football on offer. I can’t imagine supporting any other club. It simply would not be the same.
By: marcus on February 6, 2008
at 5:28 pm
How come Flamster gets injured every time he goes to the France camp? Whats up?
By: Team Spirit on February 6, 2008
at 5:36 pm
Great blog Yogi and thank you for sharing Marcus. I don’t think I can add anything to that.
So do we know how serious is this calf injury? Flamini has played for France twice and both times he has been injured. It makes you wonder…
By: Passenal on February 6, 2008
at 6:03 pm
Yogi
Your excellent article has opened up a wide discussion of Arsene Wenger’s many admirable qualities, but amid all the praise, I can see little or no reference to what I hope will be his greatest legacy.
I am referring to the fact that he has made Arsenal lovable.
Neutrals and even non-neutrals now acknowledge that Arsenal, when at their best, play the most attractive and exciting football on offer in the Premiership. The slick, fast, one-touch, attacking play exhilarates.
I cannot remember any pre-Wenger team producing anything that remotely resembles what we are now witnessing and I have been watching them for 48 years.
We are winning new fans and friends all the time whereas George Graham’s sides won, at best, only a grudging respect from the neutral.
Bertie Mee’s/Don Howe’s side were entertaining but not at the same level and it all went quickly downhill.
Herbert Chapman was undoubtedly a great innovator and will always be a major figure in Arsenal’s history but wasn’t it during his reign that we acquired the soubriquet ” Lucky Arsenal” with a reputation of winning games by the odd goal on the counter attack?
So I think that Arsene’s greatest achievement to date is the “invention” of “Wengerball”, as one of your other correspondents so astutely christened it.
By: Kelsey Skirton on February 6, 2008
at 6:27 pm
An enlightening piece of some considerable depth Marcus.
Thank you for showing Arsenal & Arsene from a different angle.
Kelsey is right in that the Wenger era has attracted real praise rather than some of the begrudging acknowledgment of success, that previous winning Arsenal teams received.
I will still dispute that the early GG years were not entertaining but he could not shake off the ‘boring’ tag correctly given to Terry Neil’s early 1980s team by, I think Bob Paisley.
What AW has brought us is an unbelievably consistant level of pure quality of performance.
He brings in players that we have hardly heard of who we can just marvel at. That is why it is such a joy to go to the Emirates to see this stuff. It is also why the ground is always sold out.
The man is unique we must treasure what we have because the football itself is more of a triumph than the trophies it will surely bring.
By: Flint McCullough on February 6, 2008
at 7:56 pm
“The man is unique we must treasure what we have because the football itself is more of a triumph than the trophies it will surely bring.”
Spot on Flint!
By: Passenal on February 6, 2008
at 10:07 pm
Marcus & Yogi, thanks for the great read.
I think if the man doesn’t want & will not take credit for all what he has done for us…..We still should give him great credit for a lot of joyful, entertaining hours of football he gave us over the years…and many other things.
I watched football since I was 6 years old with my dad in my own country, and there was a lot of wonderful, enjoyable moments. I can honestly say though, that watching Arsenal play in WengerYears playing The Wengerball….there is absolutely nothing like it, and I can only wonder how is it going to be after Wenger.
It is true, many managers feel threatened by him. I believe any one can replace Fergie & Mourinho(whatever his name is) because they depend solely on buying established players & use their money instead of their brains. As a good example, Grant is wining games for Chelski…but they’re still playing the same crappy football.
I hope Wenger remains as long as we possibly can keep him.
G4E
By: Gunner4Ever on February 6, 2008
at 11:16 pm
Yogi, Marcus, Fliint – hats off.
Two days running I’ve logged on to give my sixpence worth only to discover there’s simply nothing more to add.
Think I’ll note that as well as being spoiled by Arsenal’s quality on the pitch, us Arsenal fans are really spoilt by the quality of the blogs produced by Arsenal fans.
Take care.
By: AmanM on February 6, 2008
at 11:32 pm
Emmanuel Adebayor earn the week`s highest score with an impressive 79 points from the two matches according to ACTIM INDEX.
In all, 5 players from Arsenal are in the team of the week.
G4E
By: G4E on February 6, 2008
at 11:55 pm
I wasn’t very interested in club football before the Wenger years. I am always a bit ashamed to admit that I only support Arsenal since the invincible season. The romanticism in it just woke my interest in Arsenal, and it has become a passion.
I am the older boy of a familly of 5. When I first came back from uni, all my younger brothers had become fanatical about football, and generated heated discussions every night at the dinner table. one supported Manure, another one LIverpool, another one scorned the premiership and supported Barca, the last one suported a french team. usualy they had a team in any major european league. but only one prime team so to speak. finding myself isolated in this discussions, I looked around for a team to support that I could at least identify with as I wasn’t comfortable with choosing those three as it felt craven to choose a team just because they are successful and yet I couldn’t just chose any team as I needed at least the possibility of a rivalry to fan the flame of our future arguments. So I took to the net, and began to look around the premiership teams, Although I found the liga football superior, I don’t speak a word of spanish, and I don’t know the country at all. so I was left with what I consider the second best league. I came upon an article on Wenger, and the man just interested me. I followed links after links, then I came upon another on the invincible season. and the idea just hypnotized me. since then I have wasted countless hours trying to revive that season through different articles and videos. I wished I had been a fan during that time.
By: Edengrave on February 7, 2008
at 12:18 am
Thank you guys so much for the great article and comments. You know there’s something truly valuable (or should I say invaluable) if you get goosebumps just reading something so thought-provoking and moving about football – and watching it!
My own take on it (geez I’m afraid I’ll do another long piece like Marcus did but I can’t put it in any better way) is that talented people are hard enough to find, talented and hard-working people are even harder to find, but then talented, hard-working people with true principles and the convictions to stick with them are bound to succeed. All these qualities rolled into a humble, composed, articulate, fair and conscientious person is one in a million. Some people say Arsene’s a great PR guru. To be honest you can tell he truly believes in what he says most of the time.
Marcus’ mention of his world view is spot on. A lot of times I didn’t get goosebumps when I heard/read his wise words – not ’smart’, my word for him is ‘wise’. Sometimes he makes you think and teaches you a thing or two – football-related or his philosophy/approach to the world in general so it’s beyond the game itself. e.g. When repeatedly questioned why he kept giving chances to foreign players when he’s running ‘an English club’ (which in my humble opinion is a rather narrow view – Arsenal is a global club with global fanbase, sources of revenue and sources of players), he answered (and quite casually, in a very matter-of-fact way, not dramatising his actually grand view): “If a kid is very talented and motivated and deserves to play in the best place, and you deprive him of that opportunity of playing with/against the best players in the world, just because he was born in Zimbabwe, for me that is not justice.”
I actually the ‘typical’ fandom of find many of you very sweet and enviable, i.e. you got taken to Highbury by your dad or grandpa or friends in North London. For me it happened suddenly 2 years ago when we weren’t playing particularly well. While I started to see the differences in the styles of teams, what struck me as truly special about Arsenal was how the club conducts itself. And a big part of that manifestation is through Arsene. I can’t tell you definitively if I would have become an Arsenal fan had it not been him in charge because it’s always been the case in my short period of being a fan. But I can still say for sure that it is only a fitting fate that this unique manager, unique person rather, works at a club well regarded by its fans, neutrals and other members in the football world as ‘doing things the right way.’ It’s also one of the reasons why I didn’t see how Arsene could have just gone away last year, when some of us were worried/upset that he hadn’t extended his contract. I mean, where could he possibly go? It’s hard to separate a genius from his brainchild, especially when his kid is at an exciting stage of healthy growth.
People, especially Spurs fans, say we rely too much on him. Fair enough, that’s quite true. But (a) who would have not, if you have such a genius working for your club? (b) He’s not the kind of person who abuses his power or respect or reputation. You can see the board really gives him a 100% free hand. He’s also acting as our ‘football director’ now that he’s handling transfers with Ken Friarr playing an assisting role. (c) I think the most important thing is that he has built numerous highly valuable assets that will keep taking the club forward when, God forbid for many years still, he leaves one day. e.g. The training methods, diet regime, London Colney ground with state-of-the-art designs for long-term investment in players, scouting system, youth academy, the backroom staff (just go to arsenal.com and check their profiles – so many of them have been at the club for many years, not just ex-players Pat Rice, Liam Brady and Steve Bould! The very fact that he kept Rice as his assistant manager, as opposed to bringing in his own right-hand man, indicates how confident and respectful for the club he is), and now his truly long-term vision taking the form of the Emirates Stadium. These are things that will outlast him, things that will keep generating success for the club regardless of the managers after him.
Trophies you guys talked about already, absolutely no doubt among us. And yes CL is the only big cup that’ll put him next to any other great manager in the football history in the eyes of everyone, not just us. But to be honest and fair, for those reasons you guys and I stated above, I think he has achieved many other things that are arguably even more important and long-lasting than trophies. When Arsene has laid the foundation so well and put the club on the right track running in the right direction, it’s only a matter of time that Arsenal get its recognition in form of more and more trophies.
Maybe I’m naive in saying so, or because I haven’t been around long enough to really compare, but I’d go as far as to ask if there are any managers who have left much more for a legacy? I say Arsene is right up there with any one of them.
Sorry for the terribly long post. Couldn’t help it.
By: Lou on February 7, 2008
at 12:23 am
A very refreshing read. A good article and some good posts about the great man. And to think that before the season started some fans wanted him sacked because he did not spend on transfers.
By: Steve on February 7, 2008
at 12:38 am
Edengarave, no reason to be ashamed. In fact, every reason to feel proud joining a club like Arsenal.
Some of the fans mention their long life support of the club to exert their ranks and knowledge of the club they supported for decades. No one can deny them that ranking or the privilege to brag about it.
I started supporting Arsenal in 1996 when I came to the US, after living in London for 3 years and not being able to find a team that I really love as much as I loved the local team I supported in my childhood in my own country. Now I did, for 10 years I’m enjoying the feeling of making the right decision, and forever I’ll be a Gunner.
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Lou, great post. I’m not sure why you guys are apologizing for the long posts?
I can’t tell you how great it is to read these positive, informative, supportive posts that shows great support for the club we love, or great love for the club we support.
I will take the time to read a good long post that has a meaning, but have no patience for a short, blind, repetitive and negative comments.
**Oh, and I may be on the brink of enjoying yet another 10 years of making the right decision.
G4E
By: Gunner4Ever on February 7, 2008
at 6:53 am