William Gallas has spoken of Kolo Toure’s absence for the next month,
Kolo is very important for the squad because he is very strong. He has good qualities and my relationship with him has been good. We have good players in the squad and someone else will be able to play. If you play for Arsenal you are very good and I hope my relationship with them will be good too. We will miss Kolo but I can only say how much after a few weeks.
Cover is somewhat thinner with Alex Song leaving so the pressure is on Senderos and Djourou to raise their games to make Toure’s absence go relatively unnoticed. However, we will notice for the first few games whilst Gallas and his new partner bed down so it seems likely that there will perhaps be more harum-scarum moments, starting at Burnley as Arsene has said that he is calling the first team into action that day given the proximity of the first leg against Tottenham. Indeed, his choice for that game will give a strong indicator as to who is likely to partner the Frenchman in the coming weeks although given Senderos’ absence from the bench on Tuesday, I would not be surprised if he played both of the matches in the coming seven days. Indeed, it seems likely that he will with Matthew Connolly going to QPR unless Gavin Hoyte is promoted for the Semi Final.
On the subject of Connolly some wild accusations have been made but the player summed it all up when he said that whilst Arsenal is a good club to learn your trade, it is ‘difficult to break into the first team’. Connolly also commented that ‘at my age, I need first team football’ which he patently was not going to get on a regular basis at The Emirates with both Gallas and Toure being first choices. Whether or not he is better than Senderos or Djourou in our opinion matters little. The player has reviewed his situation like any employee and has seen a better career path elsewhere. David Bentley said roughly the same thing when he left. His path was blocked by Bergkamp and he would be competing for a place with Fabregas, Hleb and Rosicky. Is Bentley better than them?
It has nothing to do with their nationality and the tabloid style suggestion that Arsene does not like English players, frankly, is just about the most ludicrous thing said about the boss since he arrived, second only to the scurrilous and nasty rumours that abounded when he joined.
Back to Gallas. He tried to quell transfer talk,
I don’t expect us to sign anyone. Perhaps if one player does leave then we have to buy, but if that is not the case then I think everything is OK as we are
Which is nice that he is confident in the squad but one wonders if he is just toeing the party line? I hope not for the squad have done well so far, coping with various injuries. Some appear to have forgotten that we did not lose in Gallas’ own absence earlier this season so maybe, just maybe, Arsene is right not to go storming in and buy another centre back.
Titbits of speculation have appeared on the transfer front whilst the media and everyone else obsesses about Anelka and Berbatov to Chelsea and Manchester United, without really countenancing the idea that they may actually stay put. According to the Daily Mail, Arsene’s Spanish scout Sergio Cagigao has been looking at Deportivo’s ‘keeper Fabricio who is currently in their ‘B’ team. I take my hat off to the Spanish journalist who first thought that one up as they must be trawling all of the reserves now to link a player with us. Which is kind of confirmed when the same article links us to Kiko Casillas of Espanyol. No, I’m not making it up. Can’t get the Real thing? Buy a misspelt second instead, cheap at a tenth of the price. The same paper is banging on about Juventus coming in for Flamini which is the same Juventus who wanted Gilberto in the summer.
And Carlos Vela has obtained a Work Permit here according to The Daily Telegraph although they use the words, ‘It is reported that’ in front of their quote so whether or not there is any substance remains to be seen on Arsenal.com.
Talking of youngsters, Arsene has told Theo Walcott not to become obsessed with not having scored in the Premier League,
He does need a goal but Eduardo was in the same situation and Cesc Fabregas was a long time in the same situation. It will come when it is not an obsession. It will come the day maybe he doesn’t think it will come. He will score
The first thing he needs to do though is get fully fit. If Walcott does that, then he need only look at the two examples held up by Wenger, along with Hleb, Rosicky and Flamini to see that things will work out in the long run. If memory serves and it may not in this case, two of those three scored in Europe before they did in the Premier League. If Walcott needs his confidence boosting, he need only think back to the Carling Cup Final when he scored against Chelsea with their first choice defence on the pitch. If he can do it then, he will score in the Premier League.
‘til Tomorrow.























I think there is so much pressure heaped on Walcott – far too much in fact. The artificial pressure with being ‘the great white hope’ just because of an accident of nationality. The pressure to succeed at a young age which must have intensified because others, like Cesc, have made the grade at a very young age. The pressure all Arsenal strikers are under because of the long shadow cast by ‘he who went before’. And now the pressure of not having scored in the prem.
Well done Arsene for trying to ease one of these but it does also highlight it. For me he’s another promising youngster who is recovering from a long term injury and trying to find his feet in one of the most technically accomplished squads in the world. Let’s all give him a break!
By: steww on January 3, 2008
at 8:55 am
time for senderos or djouru to make impact in the squad… go gunner.. go…
http://the-gunners-1886.blogspot.com/
thanks and happy new year
By: weirdo` on January 3, 2008
at 9:28 am
When AW says he does not need to buy, he means he does not need to buy. He also means that he has faith that Senderos and Djourou and Gilberto can do the job among them.
Everyone bar AW has been saying we will fold when the ACN comes along. Indeed, since September, everyone bar AW has been saying we would fold when we meet tougher opposition. Look what happened – we are still in the lead. When the ACN is over and if we are still leading the pack, then the real pressure is on the rest esp MU, since everyone expects them to overtake us in this period, afterall they have no African players.
So let’s enjoy the ride! And let AW do his job.
By: KLVon on January 3, 2008
at 10:01 am
yogi
It has nothing to do with their nationality and the tabloid style suggestion that Arsene does not like English players
Well if he does like them where are they?
We haven’t had a ’senior’ English player in the 1st team since sol. I can understand the banter, Especially since every English youth player has been sold before he has a chance to prove his worth .this is the reason for the upheaval !
Senderos,johan,jeremie all sat patiently to get there chances,and still do today.. there is such a thing as a LOAN ! also … why cant the same be done to Connolly ?Arsene would give him his chance when he was ready , so why not adopt the mentality, of the above 3 instead of letting another british player leave !??!
However i do agree with yogi on the topic of anelka and berba, im sure both clubs will desperately TRY to hang on to their respective strikers, but also money is the root of all evil .
Everyone has a price, and i think anelka will go
to chevski , but with Ramos just at the helm i’m sure berba will be forced to give it 6 more months.
Ramos is an excellent manager and wont be swayed by the press or agent !
Not speaking English helps too !
By: ethan_gunn on January 3, 2008
at 10:07 am
What is distressing is hleb is wanted by barca as their no.1 target, theo and denilson has been linked with AC milan , flamini with juve ,cesc with Real ..
All this can only unsettle our players at this important stage of the season ..Id like to see wenger more vocal and out there putting out these fires before they become an inferno.
They all should realize we are top at the moment ,
and WHY would you want to go elsewhere ?
By: ethan_gunn on January 3, 2008
at 10:17 am
Stop feeling sorry for Walcott – its a hard life – he’s just not good enough. Rubbish control, passing crossing, no tricks, positional sense, decision making, gets knocked off the ball too easy. does not protect the ball when necessary.
As far as pace then I think he is now slower than two years ago because he has the Rocastle effect – his legs have bulked up. His pace now is no more than average.
His only hope is a loan elsewhere – stop putting the Arsenal team at risk – he is a weak link – and starting means we are playing with 10 men.
Someone tell Allan Smith the commentator that Walcott is not a great finisher – he is a long way from proving that!
By: TC on January 3, 2008
at 10:18 am
TC your comments are exactly why the kid is getting the unnecessary pressure. He’s 18. We’re spoilt by early developers like Cesc and we can’t be expecting that miracle to happen to every single player.
If he’s 28 and an established player with a good few years’ first-team experience under his belt, criticisms about his ball control, tricks, positional sense, etc. are fair enough. Accusing a kid of “putting the Arsenal team at risk”, while he’s still being nurtured (by the greatest manager in developing young players that is!) as a work in progress, is unfair.
Yes there’s risk in playing youngsters early in our first team. But that’s (well) calculated risk, balanced with experience and all that. If we’re top of the pile and Walcott usually comes on as an impact sub, or starts alongside experienced players, why the hell not? Give the kid a chance!
By: Louisa on January 3, 2008
at 10:38 am
TC, what planet are you from mate? I think just about every single one of your statements above is total bull.
even in his cameo against West Ham, walcott showed plenty of tricks. his pace is still by far and away the best in the squad and his finishing will improve. dont forget the vast majority of his career at Arsenal has been spent on the wing, where he is far more a creator than a goal scorer. he is still 18 years old. he is a boy, not much more advanced than say Randall or Gibbs. when he is on fire he is virtually unstoppable. its his consistency that needs work and that will come in time. I dont want to see him loaned out because I dont think he should be playing every week. He is still too young. If anything I would wait a year at least before a loan but even then I would reluctant to see him being kicked every week at another club. an injury at his age could destroy his career. wenger is managing his development very well and should be left to do so.
I was sad to see Connolly go but if the player has made his mind up about not wanting to wait and wanting to play every week no matter who its for then there is very little Arsenal can do about that. I wish him luck.
I agree with Ethan that I think Anelka will go to the Chavs and Berba might not go anywhere. man u might not have the money – they are not a bottomless pit like Chelsea, despite what impression they give.
so I read today that Toure and Eboue can play against Burnley on Sunday. originally they were told to join up on the 5th Jan so they must either have been given a day or two grace or the Ivory coast changed their plans. Either way, its not a huge issue. Burnley should be beaten comfortably and we have enough players so that no one has to play twice in 3 days.
By: gazzap on January 3, 2008
at 10:39 am
Louisa
i agree with you theo is the best striker the UK has to offer currently . Although Cole is looking a good prospect too .
Not sure how TC can sledge walcott , when he has had limited chances this season . Confidence is everything to a young player , and i for 1 hope he
becomes a 1st team regular for the gunners .
We need some brit players playing in the 1st team just to get some monkeys off arsene’s back ..
By: ethan_gunn on January 3, 2008
at 10:44 am
That’s it Ethan
They are monkeys!
By: Danny on January 3, 2008
at 11:08 am
Which Cole are you talking???
By: Danny on January 3, 2008
at 11:10 am
we dont need Brit players or any other players from a specific nationality for the sake of it
we just need the best around that fit into our side
Walcott will be a good English player, whether he will be a superstar is written in the stars
physically he cannot cope with playing every game .. technically he is improving as seen when he sold a nice dummy to Lucas Neill .. his subsequent decision imaking was very poor .. but then so was Ade’s when he should have played the ball to Eduardo instead of running into a dark corner
Walcott aint no Rooney who was precocious both physically and technically and who is if anything, running slightly out of steam
AW is bringing up Walcott for the long run, but neither he nor anybody can guarantee that he will be the ultimate English striker of the last 10 years
its just not possible to tell at this stage
but I am happy that the childish Theo,Theo chants seem to have stopped for now when he comes on
give the kid a break..he aint no superhero
By: BB on January 3, 2008
at 11:12 am
Hi
You guys mean potential wise about Theo?? Rooney is easily the best of course.And while on the subject of Rooney, exactly where was he at when he was 18? Theo looked equally as promising at 17 but has the progression been similar after as many games?? I personally believe he has the fundamentals and technical ability but his composure in front of goal doesn’t seem to have improved as quickly as other parts of his game.However, I don’t blame him for that.
Exactly what is his role in the team nowdays?? Is he a striker, as he was at Southampton, or is he a midfielder? He looks a natural striker at U21 level when I’ve seen him.He does not come into the conversation when Arsene speaks of the 4 strikers he has available.When we discuss strikers we only think there are 4 at the club don’t we?? I know I do, so where does that leave Theo?
I’m really not sure what Le Boss has in mind for the boy and although he’s only 18 he’s still only a year younger than Bendtner, whose development seems to be coming along a bit quicker this season.I would think Theo would need to make an impact in the latter part of this season or risk being a loan player, which wouldn’t do him any harm.He will step up but he does need to put a couple away shortly for his own good.
By: richard on January 3, 2008
at 11:16 am
Yes danny,
Arsene gets the best personnel and more importantly at the cheapest price from Europe , south america and Africa . I dont understand why teams like bolton dont follow suit ?.. they will have 10 -15 mil from anelka , just buy 4 or 5 top rated under 21’s for 2 mil. like arsene and watch the team develop . But by the same token it would be nice to see theo get into the 1st team . Bolton will squander the money on buying crappy EPL has beens .. They are far better telling anelka they are building the team around him , and try to strive for a better future .
I hate bolton and sam ! it seems both will get whats coming to them soon enough ..
By: ethan_gunn on January 3, 2008
at 11:35 am
I liken Walcott more to shaun wright phillips than Bendtner or Rooney in terms of physical development.
the latter pair are big bulls of men while the smaller two developed much later. they rely on their skill, balance and experience rather than brute force and strength. SWP never really made it at Man City till he was 21/22. walcott is only 18. there is 4 years difference. I still am happy to give walcott at least 2 more years before I will pass judgement on him.
By: gazzap on January 3, 2008
at 11:46 am
I think walcott is more in the mold of lennon .
Not quite sure where wenger is planning him on playing long term . I think that will have the biggest effect on whether he turns into a 1st team regular or not.
1 big thing to factor in next season is vela plays on the wing in Spain so like richard was saying , we are very over loaded on midfielder’s if you throw theo into that category.
And if you havnt noticed everyone one of our top 4 midfielder’s are attracting other clubs interests !
now its time to loose that SELLING club mentality
and hold onto our 1st teamer’s.
By: ethan_gunn on January 3, 2008
at 12:06 pm
i agree that we should be holding on to our midfield players, the likes of Flam, Cesc, Hleb
but I havent read anywhere that we have invited bids in for them, so the usual media reports from Spain that occur in every transfer period are hitting us again
reality is Arsenal players always attract interest for their qualities
what we should do now is go to other clubs and do the same .. we definitely have to alter our perceived image of being a bit of a “selling club”
maybe showing once our predatory instincts will keep a lid on some of the spanish/italian scavenger mentality
By: BB on January 3, 2008
at 12:30 pm
do you think some of that selling club image we have comes from the fact that wenger buys unknown youngsters rather than older more experienced superstarts for millions?
If we were to splash out 35m on Messi in the summer, I think people would stop considering us as a selling club overnight. But that wont happen while wenger is manager because that is totally against his principles. he wants to unearth the next Messi not spend millions bringing an already developed player in.
all Arsene can do is get all his (good) players on long contracts and good wages and then basically tell the likes of Barca and Real to F off. one thing is for sure, wenger rarely makes a mistake in the transfer market. most of the players he ends up letting go, go quickly downhill after they leave. if they are useful to us, he will keep them so dont worry.
By: gazzap on January 3, 2008
at 12:59 pm
Theo seems to be more mature than Bentley, Pennant, and most others who left. He also knows how much Wenger believes in his potential.
I think Theo will have one of those sudden growth spurts footballistically! Flamini became great in one summer, Fabregas went from excellent potential to one of the best in one summer, Adebayor went from gangly striker who misses sitters to our most influential player this season… and so on.
I think he will mature into his role and his final touch will improve, its just a matter of time!
Also, the media focuses on the likes of Bentley, Pennant, and now Connolly, and say that we dont encourage young English players.
They seem to forget about players like Lupoli, Quincy, and Stokes. These were all supposedly future superstars who still left because they wanted 1st team football! It has NOTHING to do with nationality!
By: Q - Arsenal Way on January 3, 2008
at 1:04 pm
Oh – off topic but my missus says can I ask if anyone else thinks EDS looks like Tattoo off Fantasy Island? She shouts “The plane the plane” every time he’s on camera.
It’s getting a little wearing.
By: steww on January 3, 2008
at 1:12 pm
indeed the players that we sold were by and large reaching the twilight of their respective careers
it is unfortunately now the case that the players in question are either at or reaching their prime which makes this a very different ball game and one which AFC must put some attention towards
letting Henry go at 30 is very different from letting Hleb go at 26, etc..
not saying that it will happen , just that we need to be on alert
whilst I agree that there is no easy way round this issue, maybe it would be useful to strike a big deal once and alert other clubs to our “spending” potential.. sometimes you need to change your usual methods in order to achieve the desired outcome
the least we want to become is a club that develops great youngsters and then sells them on to the big money payers .. we should not be a feeder club
winning more trophies would probably also help
By: BB on January 3, 2008
at 1:15 pm
I agree Q,
Players under Wenger often appear to fans to blossom over night. Confidence when it comes, can turn a player with Wenger’s tutelage into a world beater.
Theo will hopefully suddenly forget all the things he is not so good at and expose the talents he does have in abundance at this point he like a young Henry may just grow and grow into a cunning match winner.
Agree also Gazzap,
It is Wenger’s considered transfer policy that may see us labelled a selling club, which is an image that is out of sync with those that understand the man and the club.
Wenger has confidence in his own eye for talent and of course then displays great patience with these players. He is not going to change and we are a richer club for it.
Yes maybe the next manager will be less driven by the challenge to polish raw diamonds and then the selling club some so called pundits consider us to be may be dismissed, with a glamourous tranfer swoop. Then this manager can turn around and thank his great predecessor for making it all possible!
By: Danny on January 3, 2008
at 1:22 pm
They seem to forget about players like Lupoli, Quincy, and Stokes. These were all supposedly future superstars who still left because they wanted 1st team football! It has NOTHING to do with nationality!
Thank you.
Whilst only someone without ambition would be happy to rot in the reserves. Players know if they have it in them to breakthrough to the 1st team.
BB – I don’t think buying big will help. These teams (Barca Real etc) will always come out wanting to buy big players. Chelsea have spending power yet Real came in for Robben.
Even C. Ronaldo’s name is bandied about, That’s just how they do business.
By: Michael on January 3, 2008
at 2:27 pm
Michael – I agree that there is no obvious solution .. Robben wasnt wanted by Chelsea any longer..always injured, but you are right..there is competition in the world for top players and ManU suffer the same way
but let me tell you that if ManU lost Ronaldo, they would be severely affected
they would be thrown back years..imagine us losing TH14 when he was in his prime and Ronaldo is still very young..would be the absolute killer blow to them..plus their profile would take a blow
this time around, AFC has just built a team that can in theory stick together for 3/5 years
it would be very bad to see us losing our main contributors .. this is not any longer a PH4/TH14 situation
By: BB on January 3, 2008
at 2:44 pm
Hi fans there? I’ve a big confession make; eaten a big humble pie since the Chelsea game. I’ve had an opportunity to rewatch the Hammers game and I want to humbly withdraw all negative statements and mistrust that I heaped on Almunia.
Almunia has really developed his game within this short time. We don’t need any GK, he can make it with us fo the next 6/7 years ably supported by Fabianski.
I hope Senderos proves me wrong too now that he’s getting a big chance with Toure away. Its a make or break opportunity for Senderos and Djourou and whoever lose it will be off next season I think.
By: Harlan on January 3, 2008
at 3:29 pm
I’ve also realised that Almunia is moving in the right direction and its time Jens move on. There’s speculation that he’s off to Dortmund in the January window. Its too late for him to be back now.
Hail Almunia.
By: Howard on January 3, 2008
at 3:32 pm
I completely agree about ronaldo. if he left, man u would not challenge for the title I feel 100% sure of that. chelsea probably are more able to cope with the loss of big players, not least because they have so much money and can literally go out an buy the worlds best player in any position with money being no object.
Liverpool are over dependent on Gerrard mostly and partly Torres. But strikers need service so I think if Gerrard goes missing, Liverpool are poor.
but really wenger has led the way in non over reliance in one or two players stakes. I know cesc is a great player but Flam, Denilson and Diaby can cover him as can Hleb or Rosicky (if only wenger had used Ros in midfield at Boro). Ade is good, but bendtner can be equally as good very soon. RVP is good but EDS is equally as deadly in front of goal. I really beleive Arsenal have the greatest strength in depth along with Chelsea.
Man u are where we were in 2004. superb first 11 but scratch a little bit of the surface and a couple of injuries to key players could derail the whole thing.
By: gazzap on January 3, 2008
at 3:34 pm
You’ve got to love Eduardo “”Once a chance comes to you then all there is to do is to be calm and focus on scoring – it sounds simple, but that is all.”
Why didn’t someone tell me this as a youngster??
I wouldn’t be wasting my time working in I.T.!
By: Dublgun on January 3, 2008
at 3:40 pm
BB
i think your wish will come true , ronaldo wants to move to spain and they are going to pay 50 mil . for his services .. Or so rumor has it .. But ronaldo came out and said they were a great club and he will always treasure his Man’ure days …
Sounds like the seed is sewn to me.
Danny
Carlton cole
I think he will be pushing for a English cap,
He could of been good for the chev’s , but there you go … you let them go and you never know .
gazzap
I think there is an easy way to bring up youth
and benifit from them . Some sort of buy back policy within the contract is one. Also joint ownership .
Long term loans ..
There is no excuses.. We could simply loan him out(Connolly) to QPR . over the long term , make it a 18 month loan deal with no return. then assess him at that time .
I think the second they leave arsenal and the trainers , they do themselves a disservice .
This boy is young and the sort of facilities AFC have can only bring a young player along quicker.
He is mad to not give himself more time at arsenal
I hope he lives to regret the move .. Either that or he is so confident in his abilities that he thinks he’s ready for 1st team football NOW?. I cant think of too many 18 year old CB’s in the English premier league full stop . Not sure what he is thinking ..
Also playing in the reserves would be about the same level as the championship , or very little difference in it!
Madness….
By: ethan_gunn on January 3, 2008
at 3:48 pm
Ethan,
Which performance are you basing the talent you see in Carlton Cole.
Sometimes I wonder about you!
Carlton Cole is deceidely average! Ask any Chelsea fans, if thats not possible, ask West Ham fans.
Is it because the lad was not bad against us? He rarely finishes and is technically average and thats being nice.
If these feelings you have about English players are based on players like Carlton Cole….well if anything the lad completely vindicates the policies of Arsene.
By: Danny on January 3, 2008
at 3:58 pm
About Almunia
I agree like the other posters, he has truly come on leaps and bounds over the last few months.
however he still has a nasty habit of wondering away from the Goalmouth when there is absolutely no recourse to. He did it again at the West Ham on at least 3 occasions, we had a West Ham forward making a move near the left side of the penalty area, but each time we had 2 defenders covering him, yet still Almunia went out to close him down to make a 3rd defender, leaving the goalmouth open.
although it didn’t cause any problems in this case i wish he would stop doing that!!
it already cost us a goal against Man U earlier this season and may cost us again- please Manuel – when we have defenders back – stay put!
By: Robin Van Helsing on January 3, 2008
at 4:14 pm
I agree on Cole – talk to the WH guys .. they tell you he cant shoot .. to me, he looks like your typical physical English forward .. another Jason Roberts, etc..
not good enough technique for sure .. something I am sure AW works on with Walcott as we dont want another Owen etc..ie a monolythical forward
Walcott will never be gifted with Brazilian technique, but he can clearly improve .. the trick on Neill against WH was great to see..
By: BB on January 3, 2008
at 4:14 pm
Danny
For you every English player is not good enough. We have a load of foreign players who’re also average playing in top clubs in England including Arsenal. If you don’t give a player a chance over but assess him on a game or two its not fair.
Almunia was not good enough but given a run of games look at how far he’s gone? If you give a player some chances and still a crap then you can then judge that he’s not good.
I observed Carlton Cole and I think if they continue to give him chances he’ll come good at the end, he’s still a work in progress.
Connolly was 20 not 18 and he joined the club at 8. I also think a long loan with QPR could have been good for us instead of offloading him. The fact also remains that he’s not been given opportuties to develop his talent.
I’m not criticising Arsene here but after giving chances to Djourou and Senderos who’re still way backwards in terms of development, why do we sell this guy so quickly when we still lack potentials at the CB position? Tt is my question.
By: Howard on January 3, 2008
at 4:23 pm
what are we talking about here? Djourou was outstanding when he played for us last season .. remember the game against ManU at Old Trafford .. all this talk about English players not getting a chance is baseless
Hoyte is still playing despite definitely not being obvious “Arsenal material”
also how big should Arsenal’s squad be with players on loan?
should we run a team of 50 players dispatched all around the world??
seems to be that would a challenge logistically to keep track of the boys
Connolly was at the club for 12 years .. ample time to get a view on what he is capable of achieving.. also Sidwell since his big buck move to the Russians is hardly setting the world on fire ..
Cole .. if he improves, so be it .. but shall we have 50 potential 1st AFC players running up and down the country still being on our books??
I doubt this would make much sense to anybody, players included
By: BB on January 3, 2008
at 4:32 pm
Never leave the Arsenal:
“I made a mistake coming to Fiorentina,” Lupoli told Radio Kiss Kiss Napoli.
“Quite frankly I was hoping to play regular football and I thought the club would give me greater consideration.”
“I am 20 years old and I really want to play.”
By: gazzap on January 3, 2008
at 5:07 pm
Howard,
It sounds like your telling Danny to do exactly what he has done…in the case above he considered Coles performances for both Chelsea and West Ham, suggesting any doubters ask their supporters opinion. Rather than take his good impression at Coles performance in the game against us on new years day and extrapolate it out into him being a world beater.
Lets be honest, of the best English players how many would get into our best eleven playing on top of their form?
I’d say Ferdinand and maybe Rooney. Joe Cole may get a look in but I think he has been ineffective this year, thats it.
I think that illustrates that Danny maybe has a point.
By: Joseph K on January 3, 2008
at 7:40 pm
Howard,
For the major tournaments the English players are not good enough.
If we’re having English players i’ll have Gerard, Ferdinand, Micah and maybe Joe Cole and Rooney at a push. They’re both good, I just don’t like them.
As for Lita, Sidwell, Carlton Cole, Pennant, Owen, Gary Neville, Wes Brown, Philip Neville, Jagielka, Andy Johnson, Defoe…I think I’ll give it a miss!
Most of us here support England…just like the Arsenal we were born into it!
That means I want English players to do well, but not for one second at the detriment of our great club.
If the cream of English players were available, at a cost that was market value, I’d be all for it. Unfortunately the actual cream of English players represents a number of about 10 at best and they’re not available, certainly not at value.
So Howard, I have no problem with England players just as long as their good enough to play to an Arsenal level. Kid yourself all you like but Carlton Cole and Matthew Connolly are not.
As for Wenger, I’m sure he is on a crusade to single handedly wipe English players off the face of the earth.
Or could it be that he always does what is best for the club!
Showing patience for a player like Djourou who is courted by a host of Premiership clubs, has played in a World Cup and clocked up 30 or so appearances last season is what he believes will bring results. Matthew Connolly is off to Q.P.R, good luck to him.
By: Danny on January 3, 2008
at 7:45 pm
English players suck so bad, they actually stink.
Why do we have to have English players? Because we play in England? Why there aren’t any English players playing for the top Euro clubs?? The reasons are:
1. They’re not good enough.
2. Why would they play abroad when they can play like crap at home and get paid big bucks?
3. They beleive the hype around them in the EPL and then face reality when they play national sides.
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Walcott is good, just needs time to grow up and play with the big boys. He needs to work out and left some weights so he can hold up the challenges better. So lay off the guy. I said before he runs with the ball with no aim, but that’s because he’s using his speed instead of his mind.
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Howard: I’m glad Almunia is on your good side now
I remember you wanted to kick his ass all the way from England to Kuala lumpur.
G4E
By: Gunner4Ever on January 3, 2008
at 8:08 pm
Danny totally agree with your viewpoint and comments. Nothing to add but the following…..
Q made a comment earlier about Theo being more mature than other recently departed English players and I would like to add that it is a reflection of the advice and support these young players are getting, parentally and from the Mr 10%’s.
Sidwell leaves saying he MUST have first team football but when the big cheques are waving the bench is adequete.
Connelly spending 1 year on loan at his Arsenal wages is probally less lucrative then a drop into a smaller pond as a bigger fish for our recently Briatore bought neighbours.
1st team football for such a short career in the ‘richest league in the world’ has become a code for ‘I’m getting a good offer here’ for Arsenal reserves. Good luck to them. Give me the loyalty of Hoyte anyday.
By: Grim on January 3, 2008
at 8:13 pm
Speaking of Senderos and Djourou, for the amount of stick both have been getting, people seem to forget that Senderos is 22 and Djourou is only 20!!
They are young athletes who have done well and will only improve with time. How many world class central defenders (anywhere in Europe) do you have who are below the age of 26??
By: Q - Arsenal Way on January 3, 2008
at 11:00 pm
Danny
As for Wenger, I’m sure he is on a crusade to single handedly wipe English players off the face of the earth.
It actually sounds like you are !
Carlton cole is a good english prospect and when he is wearing a jersey with the english colours on them , we will see who was right and who was wrong.
Yes he’s your typical big bodied player who muscles out the defense , yes you need one of them , like we have Ade .. And if your honest on the day in question Cole played better than ade .
He can at least look comfortable running the lone striker position for 90 minutes
i wonder about you danny ..
your about as patriotic as king john ..
Yes our football does suck so much that we are out of the EURO .. but why? is it our players? or
the coaching staff in the UK ? mc claren??
my guess is the latter . If arsene coached england you would see some sort of changes for the better . Its our quality of coaching that lets players like cole not be as technically gifted as they should. But i watch west ham with my old man a lot , and if you actually watched other games you would see the last 4 or 5 games he has REALLY improved .. It only goes to show me ,
like your ade waffle that you truely know nothing .
By: ethan_gunn on January 3, 2008
at 11:18 pm
thankyou Q ,
a point ive been making the whole time . Hopefully they will listen to you ..
By: ethan_gunn on January 3, 2008
at 11:33 pm
BB
why would you need 50 youth players on loan ?
you only send 4-8 players out a season , and setup some contract tailored to suit all parties needs..
buy back clause- or year loan and assess there progress come the end of the period stipulated!
Our 1st team is already fighting for positions ..
we dont need 50 players !? I think your just looking for a fight .. more so than constructive chat ..
in fact you all are danny – stan your just trouble makers .. and your ignorant knowledge of football is evident !
You predict nothing , offer nothing. and really are just plain rude !
By: ethan_gunn on January 3, 2008
at 11:45 pm
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By: ethan_gunn on January 3, 2008
at 11:50 pm
What’s my Ade waffle???
Do you judge Carlton Cole by the same harsh level you judge Ade? Any self respecting fan knoes Carlton Cole is not in Ade’s league!
For Ade you’re happy to note the minutes he loses possession? Do you and your missus do that with everyone?
Look, Ethan, we can go personal again but it’s pointless. Let’s stick to discussion.
Do you not think Wenger would have liked to develop more English players?
So if not, why? And if yes, what has stopped him?
By: Danny on January 4, 2008
at 12:23 am
Etan is correct about carlton cole being a good English prospect but the problem is he is no where near a good arsenal choice. Now we need to decide who is. And I cannot think of any in a sensible price range. Fat Frank is “top notch” england player but would you want him at the ARSE. Same goes for Owen, Robinson, Neville, Bridge, and any number of english players. As for the X arsenal english players, how many have even made a wank enland team.
Players like pennant and sidwell are not top 4 players and never will be. As for betnley (as was on his shirt) he is OK but is not a good team player, and did not want to wait his chance.
By: Steve on January 4, 2008
at 3:20 am
-Etan +Ethan
By: Steve on January 4, 2008
at 3:22 am
P.S as for all this long term loan nonsense no player would want to stay at colchester on a long term loan if they can join a better side. Also many clubs do not want a player on a long term loan as that is no progress for the club, it just makes them a feeder club.
By: Steve on January 4, 2008
at 3:28 am
Cheers steve
at least someone watches the games objectively .
And see’s as far as British players are conserned
he is a good one for the future !
No i wouldn’t want to see him in the Arsenal line up either , but if we had picked him up 5 years ago to train him up instead of the chevski’s, things might have been different for the lad..Arsenal have finesse players , English players are in carltons mold ! Strong and Blackburn like
say no more ..
What i do notice is all the English players hop it before they are 21 , yet all the internationals arsene brings in are prepared to wait .. My prognosis is PATIENCE . or lack of with the English lads .. Lets face it 3 of the 4 top clubs dont really nurture youth for the future ,They just BUY ! thats left to the lower teams in the EPL and the other leagues below them to nuture youth. No one is getting TOP 1st CLASS TRAINING from top class international coaches ! .. So why the UK isn’t producing players is pretty obvious to me . The top 10 teams in the EPL need to be more responsible .
I think people like TC will be eating there words in 3 years when they see theo , He will be a world beater , every squad member has admired theo as they see it on the training ground .
I will throw in a conspiracy theory of mine why theo hasn’t played much this season , I think it might be due to clauses on this contract when he left Southampton.Number of Appearances – goals whatever.
I remember the contract was for 5 mil that could go up to 15mil or some such based on clauses !
No need for arsene to pay more for him when he has so many other options available midfield.
I mean everyone is worried about theos BURNOUT .i think its a smoke screen.
But Arsene isn’t worried about burning out Cesc .
So i think its more to do with contract status than
Burnout .. Age also , but theo is the same age as cesc when he started ! So that theory is busted too !
By: ethan_gunn on January 4, 2008
at 4:45 am
Long term loans that satisfy all PARTIES ! I stated !
we mainly loan to the likes of Birmingham etc.
Lower EPL and UPPER championship teams ..
Not colchester ! If one of our players wanted to play at colchester , He wouldnt be one of our players to begin with !
SAVVY?
By: ethan_gunn on January 4, 2008
at 5:02 am
I think it’s also quite clear that Cesc developed FAR quicker than Theo. That’s certainly a factor…
By: Non Edible Nacho on January 4, 2008
at 5:09 am
danny dec 28
It seems the Ade doubers cannot be won over, when he banged in that cracker against our North London enemy, there was no rush to hold hands up and declare he has something. When the team was playing well, he was exceptional.
Sure thats your opinion !
your welcome to it ..
By: ethan_gunn on January 4, 2008
at 5:20 am
Nacho
don’t you think thats because of 1st team opportunities open to cesc…
Lets see where theo is in 2 years ..
only then you can compare .
Also remember cesc started when he was 18 .
like theo is NOW .. pretty hard to judge ..
in any logical thought process .
By: ethan_gunn on January 4, 2008
at 5:24 am