Robin van Persie was in a bullish mood yesterday. Not quite dismissing Chelsea but struggling to be anything other than polite about them,
It’s really tough to play against them but if we play our game and put in one hundred per cent effort against Chelsea we can beat them
The latter part is something that we have forgotten how to do in recent seasons, although last time around, it was not through want of trying. In all three games, we led, denied by late equalisers in the League and undone by inexperience in the Carling Cup Final.
The match is occupying minds and one has to say that it looks as if Sky has some sort of influence over the football fixture computer, churning out any number of Grand Slam Sunday or whatever description they want to put on the day, over the past couple of years.
Van Persie spoke of his own return to the side
I’m not one hundred per cent…I can easily make 60-65 minutes but after two months out you cannot make 90 minutes. Maybe next time I can do 75-80 minutes. Or come on as sub. I don’t mind
The latter seems unlikely. Having taken an important stride to prove his fitness on Wednesday evening, it would not be a daft bet to put money on him starting on Sunday, very possibly with Flamini returning in central midfield for company. Alex Hleb may well feature in the squad, a substitute for later in the game seems likely judging by Arsene’s thinking,
I’d be prepared to take a gamble on one or two coming back from injury. But three or four – that’s very risky. I have to assess the situation carefully
RvP though let the cat out of the bag when talking about the quartet,
I have a good feeling they will be back
The experiment at Villa Park of Diarra and Flamini might well resurface on Sunday. It would not necessarily mean that Hleb has to start with RvP filling the link role between midfield and Adebayor.
Martin Keown believes that a win is imperative for Arsenal,
You have to win your home game because you are going to go to Stamford Bridge later in the season. I think it could even come down to goal difference
Doffing my cap to Keown’s more hands-on football experience, I would beg to differ on the point he made about having to win your home game. Avoiding defeat is as important; six draws against your rivals is not a disaster over the course of the season but it does add pressure in some respects knowing that the rest of the meetings between the other top three sides are unlikely to all end in draws. Keown thinks the recent run could have knocked the belief of some of the squad,
When you are a younger player your confidence is still brittle. But what a great game it will be for Arsenal to win to restore that and it will be the goal this weekend…They are a young team but if Arsenal stay in front in terms of points, then psychologically that is big
However, given the side was bereft of its creative influences, I am unconvinced that they will all have been affected. Indeed, let us not forget that there has only been one bad result, the defeat at Middlesbrough. Before the season started, a draw at St James Park would have been acceptable; it has only become the opposite because of the start to the match and the performance.
William Gallas meanwhile has been talking of his role as captain,
I try to show them how they have to play sometimes, sometimes being angry, you know? To be captain you have to be honest and you have to see when something is wrong and to speak with your team. At the moment we speak very well. Outside of the pitch I speak with the young players, which is very important for them
Which is well and good, something that he has achieved quite successfully so far. Gallas has forgotten the bit about leading by example, which he is doing very well at the moment. His habit of popping up with a late goal or two is a good way to show the rest of the team that never accepting defeat until the final whistle is blown is the only way to go on the pitch.
It is apparent that he has gained the respect of his teammates as captain, an achievement that seemed a million miles away last season. Yet is often forgotten how frustrating the 2006-07 campaign must have been for him with injuries disrupting his appearances. Returning to a side that had little or nothing to play for with two months to go would also have been demotivating for him. To his credit he has been positive about his role this season and certainly no one can have any complaints about his performances so far.
‘til Tomorrow.























The Murdoch hype machine is really annoying. And I don’t even live in England.
Three points would be fantastic on sunday, but what do you think about playing after Pool – Mancs? Could it add presure if Manchester wins? Could this pressure be negative or positive?
I draw in that match would be ideal I think. Though I wouldn’t complain if Liverpool wins.
By: Non Edible Nacho on December 14, 2007
at 8:06 am
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By: Non Edible Nacho on December 14, 2007
at 8:06 am
We must play to win. Chelsea is beatable, and if we play like we did against MU, then I think we will do alright. Then again, who’s the ref?
We must not lose hope if we are a goal down. The boys can do it. Any news on Flamini or Hleb or Fabregas?
I hope Liv-MU is a draw.
By: KLVon on December 14, 2007
at 8:24 am
Why would you want Liverpool and Man Utd to draw?
Pool will draw more games this season than Man Utd, who are the masters of playing badly and winning.
If Pool beat Man Utd and we win, our lead at the top is 4 points again.
Ideally you want pool, chelsea and man utd to put pressure on each other every game, which a pool win would achieve.
By: Bob on December 14, 2007
at 8:34 am
I risk the wrath of some but another interesting article, YW. Sadly there is nothing to disagree with there.
Although I am desperate to win this game, it is more important not to lose.
The balance has to be right because, if you set out not to lose, that is very often exactly what happens.
We have to be able to take the initiative but that will depend on who is available.
I hope AW doesn’t take any risks with the doubtful players because they can be a liability at less than 100%. They also risk further injury that can lead to an even longer time out than the original injury caused. TH14 playing against PSV was a season ending disaster.
It would be great to stay top of the league but it is not essential at this time of the season.
What has to happen is a long (8-10 games) winning run in the 2nd half of the season, the later the better. As we have found, to both our advantage and the converse, it is often better to be chasing than be chased.
I am really saying that Sunday is very important but it is not the ‘be all & end all’ of this PL race.
What the Martian said sounds correct but it was our experienced Invincibles, who struggled with that defeat at Man U. We shall have to see how this young team will cope with the dip we have been in since Hleb was kicked off the park at Villa Park.
By: Flint McCullough on December 14, 2007
at 9:15 am
I think wenger agrees with you that a draw on Sunday would be a fine result. He often plays it very cautiously against the top 4 clubs. He didn’t ‘go for it’ against Liverpool or Man U. The fear of losing overrides the will to win in my opinion.
But when you play the away game later in the season, it puts more pressure on your home game. I feel Chelsea will be happier with the fixtures round this way. they know if they lose they still have most of the season to turn it around and the home game against us to even it up. If we lose suddenly we are no longer top of the league and we know we still have to go away to both Old Trafford and Stamford Bridge. Both games you’d take a draw from now for certain. but a win effectively means you can go to SB later in the season with no fear at all, knowing that you already have 3 points in the bag from them this season.
I think at least one of Hleb or Cesc will play. My guess is that Hleb will play and RVP too. Diaby will be on the bench. So my team:
Almunia
Sagna Toure Gallas Clichy
Hleb Flamini Diarra Rosicky
Ade RVP
By: gazzap on December 14, 2007
at 10:26 am
I would love to see Hleb play- both at Newcastle and Boro we lacked that unpredictability that Hleb brings-having Fab would be a big bonus but if Fleb and Flam make it then there is no doubt we can beat the Chavski comfortably.
By: RuneBreaker on December 14, 2007
at 10:55 am
I’m a little mystified by the “draw is a good result” attitude, and not just for this game. It’s as though people never quite adjusted to the W=3pts change. Would any have been happier with D-D-D over the last three in the league? Judging from the tone, it seems some would even though we would have a point less than we currently do.
I understand that against our rivals, it’s also about denying them the points, but in my mind, we are the team that should *never* play for a draw, even if it means losing sometimes.
By: nolaboyd on December 14, 2007
at 11:52 am
Yes, and I think maybe the end of the unbeaten run will help to eliminate the “fear of losing” in the players minds. Three points would mean that what happened in the previous week will be archived and no longer over the team’s shoulders. One point would mean we would still have to face consecutive tough fixtures (two london derbies and tricky away games at Everton and Portsmouth) in a very tight position, with a certain chance of losing the top spot before new year.
By: Non Edible Nacho on December 14, 2007
at 12:56 pm
We do want the win but not at all costs.
Our ability to really go for it will depend on who is truly fully match fit.
These matches are very important but don’t forget we beat Man U home & away last season without affecting them too much.
By: Flint McCullough on December 14, 2007
at 1:07 pm
Some commentators still don’t get it – Arsenal must get Cesc back they say. Laughable. This team needs Hleb. Every team needs Hleb. Our best 45 minutes footballl of the season was the first half at Villa, minus Cesc. Not that Cesc isn’t an amazing player, it’s just Hleb is the man that pulls the strings. Without Hleb, the central midfield pair (whoever they may be) look dull hard-workers, Rosicky looks like the sort of cake icing that tastes cheap and has been scraped off the cake and placed to the side, Adebayor looks isolated. We can survive without Cesc, we can’t without Hleb.
To go for a win or draw, it’s irrelevant, we all know Arsene sends them out with one idea, to enjoy themselves and play good football, nothing more.
If Hleb isn’t available, Diaby is the next best bet because in those tight congested areas (which is what it will be without Hleb pulling the strings), he can beat a man. We must take the field with players brave enough to beat a man.
Arsenal players capable of beating a man: Hleb, Diaby, Eboue, Walcott, Cliche
By: hboy on December 14, 2007
at 1:25 pm
we need to win on sunday .. simple as that .. we havent beaten CFC in a longtime..its about time we put our record straight
also our recent results were not 100%, so we need to get points on board again
especially with the upcoming away fixtures,
this is not a time to slip up
drawing the game on sunday against a weak Chelsea side will make us look vulnerable
if we want to scare the opposition and not only play for the occasional beauty contest, we need to produce results..time to step up to the plate
By: BB on December 14, 2007
at 1:46 pm
I understand your thinking Flint, but tend to think of it as a bit of a defense mechanism.
Of course no one wants to lose, but by believing playing for a win increases the likelihood of enduring a defeat, we are simply dampening our belief that we can acheive a win.
In reality, we know not how to play for a draw and I would not be fooled by our 4-5-1 system in recent big games that this ability has been gained.
We are an attacking side, who have not mastered the Italian art of killing games nor should we aspire to do so.
I think Flint, that you are really talking from a fans point of view, which is fair enough in managing expectations, but as a team, we should get after Chelsea and frighten the life out of them and our other rivals. If we believe our football is superior, let’s be true to that belief.
But I do understand your pragmatism!
By: Danny on December 14, 2007
at 1:53 pm
there is no reason not to go flat out for the win they are missing their best three players carvalho, eissien and drogba, i expect helb and flam to play and see no reason why we can not beat them. obviously a draw would not be a major problem (assuming utd don’t win). we have hard games coming up at everton and portsmouth let alone spuds next week which is always unpredictble and need to get max points where ever possible, i never understand the attitude of trying not to lose. we are a great team with a great home record and lets just go beat these scumbags!!!!
By: dan on December 14, 2007
at 1:55 pm
Chelsea will be weaker but not weak.
You boys are right.
I hate to lose so a bit of a defence mechanism kicks in.
Always optimistic about the big picture but worry about the immediate game, Chelsea or Wigan.
Not going to change now.
Agree with you Hboy about Hleb but not totally. We need both of them for the really big games but only fully fit.
Hleb & Diaby are our players who can beat a player in no space at all whilst Rosicky has different talents. Diaby still needs to improve his vision but I think he could be an effective alternative to Hleb, when he plays behind the lone forward.
By: Flint McCullough on December 14, 2007
at 2:49 pm
the team news looks good, we could have our first 11 playing for the 1st time this year.
By: dan on December 14, 2007
at 2:50 pm
I have to agree with BB & dan. We must go all out to WIN! It’s as good a time as any to beat up Chelsea. I don’t believe AW will opt to not go all out as we normally do against them regardless of the competition (CC, EPL, CL). It’s a derby game so NO playing not to lose especially without Essien & Drogba! I predict 2-0
By: Aman on December 14, 2007
at 2:55 pm
3 0 we are going to do the business.
By: dan on December 14, 2007
at 3:08 pm
http://www.arsenal.com/article.asp?thisNav=News&article=485331
By: Non Edible Nacho on December 14, 2007
at 3:19 pm
If all three play,
I predict a riot!
We should have taken a big scalp already having dominated possession in our big games.
Let’s take a blue one this Sunday!
By: Danny on December 14, 2007
at 3:57 pm
Hboy,
I do agree with you on Hleb, the creativity and everything good he brings to the team….But to say that we don’t need Cesc is the actual laughable joke.
Cesc has much creativity as Hleb if not more, and he also has the ability to control the tempo of the game….just his role has changed this year from last year. I thought we did survive when Hleb was not doing the business in past years….Cesc was doing the business then.
Having said that, I agree if we just get Hleb back for Chelski….that’s more than enough.
By: Gunner4Ever on December 14, 2007
at 4:27 pm
I think the best result for us would be a win over Chelski, and LPool over Man Ure. I think we should go for the when, but a point would be good if LPool draw with Man U as well.
I have a nice feeling about this game though, if we win it will be 2/1 or 1/0.
G4E
By: Gunner4Ever on December 14, 2007
at 4:31 pm
hola jose
By: josegabrielrestrepomartinez on December 14, 2007
at 7:09 pm
I know what you mean about Hleb, hboy, it’s like everyone sees how good Fab is it makes you want to shake them “yes – but can’t you see how important Hleb is??” Of course both do that wonderful thing – link the play. Where we’ve missed them both is the way Fab comes from deep takes the ball from our defence thereby dictating the build up pace and ensuring good possession football. Hleb has a phenomenal percentage of passes completed when he’s in form and also starts many lightning counter attacks from opposition corners. Take those kind of players away and there seems a gulf between defence and attack. Add to that mix a tall lone striker and bingo! long ball game.
By: steww on December 14, 2007
at 8:26 pm
Danny @ 1:53
Spot on the money.
You have to send a signal because ’signals’ are the things that beat other teams before they get on the park.
Look at united: how many teams do we see them play who look beaten before the match kicks off?
We need that too, and when full strength we warrant it.
By: Joseph K on December 14, 2007
at 10:46 pm
for me Hleb is more important to our style of play but perhaps Fab would do more to actually help us win. Cesc would do things like get behind chelsea and cause them panic and yes score goals. he adds to the attack like no other player we have. But as I say, if you are looking at a player that keeps us ticking along in our beautiful style, keeping the tempo in at least 3rd gear then look no further than Hleb. they both bring different things to the side and overall are equally as important.
but I just think Fab is easier to replace on the day than hleb. Flamini can do some of the things that cesc does include grabbing vital goals. I dont think diaby replaces Hleb but I do see the point others are making here. he can keep the ball in tight spaces and keep moves flowing but Hleb is a lot better at it than Diaby.
my worry about Rosicky is that he needs Cesc to function. Would Diaby be more self sufficient on the left than Ros? We shall see.
By: gazzap on December 14, 2007
at 10:56 pm
Ros is way ahead of Diaby on the left. Ros is excellent at moving into space to receive the ball, and very synced with Cesc and especially Hleb. I’m giddy with the idea that we might see Cesc-Hleb-Ros-RvP at the same time again. They’re all better with each other, bc the others are running into the right spaces. With Ade holding and Flam/Diarra winning posession, I can’t see Chelsea holding on.
Am I the only one who’s worried that Flamini might have been playing way over is head this autumn, and might not regain that form?
By: nolaboyd on December 14, 2007
at 11:55 pm
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at 12:01 am
All 3 points are needed , there cannot be any excuses at home ! Whilst i semi agree with flint ,
that a draw wouldn’t be disastrous ,
If man’ure WIN,which there is a VERY VERY good chance they will ,(liverpool having a good game but a mentally exhausting one midweek) I tip Man ‘ure for an away win ! As they are rested …
And our lose would allow man’ure to leap frog us and rob us of confidence ! At home its a must win , and a must return for our injured ! Its gamble like nacho always says but Risking the injured for the big games must HAPPEN !
I also i have the exact same thought process as keown .
When you are a younger player your confidence is still brittle. But what a great game it will be for Arsenal to win to restore that and it will be the goal this weekend…They are a young team but if Arsenal stay in front in terms of points, then psychologically that is big….
So why doesn’t he get in the shite on this board for saying these statements and i do ??????
By: ethan_gun on December 15, 2007
at 12:33 am
Nacho RE: last blog (or 2)
see the flaws in my reasoning?
Well we did spend over 16 million ,so not sure how you figure we spent nothing this last window !,the bulk on sanga and dudu , 2 million on a 16 your old Norway defender and another 2 million on a polish goalie. So no i don’t really see the flaws ,as arsene did get top quality youth THAT WILL fire sometime in the near future . We all expected them to get better . The only question was would it be this season or the next…
And 20 point gap was based at the end of the season, not now ! Plus the likes of chevski and man’ure where the only ones to create such a gap on us , and really its debatable whether they really needed more players for the EPL ,they just got MORE to compete on all fronts more effectively .
A lesson i say we still need to learn !
By: ethan_gun on December 15, 2007
at 1:09 am
and a late 2 million on diarra !
which could of cost us alot more for him ….
By: ethan_gun on December 15, 2007
at 1:45 am
I was talking precisely about spending in what you call “PROVEN players”. Arsène didn’t (only Sagna is a regular from the lot he bought to develop) and the gap still closed. Why? Because the young players matured, got closer, improved from continued years of training together and developing an understanding between them, etc. That’s the way this club works under Arsène. He can buy the odd “star” (or player close to that status), but he prefers to make them paciently, moulding prospects to make them fit in the team.
By: Non Edible Nacho on December 15, 2007
at 2:00 am
I think Arsène will play Cesc from the first minute. Not sure about Hleb and Flamini.
By: Non Edible Nacho on December 15, 2007
at 2:01 am
i agree he has to play cesc in order to get anything from this game..
His vision and creativity has been missing in the past 2 games .
Proven players to me . are anelka – someone of the statue of john terry or Sol , Martins .green in goal ..
Basically EPL rated..A quick self starter who can fit in straight away with the pace of the EPL
My point is we did spend 22 million on players last window,
and probably will spend more in January , So with that said ,Arsenal should avoid a 20 point pounding this season ! I do expect that if we get any defensive players they will probably recruited from Africa or Europe , as i cant see arsene paying the money for a PROVEN EPL player .But whilst we have the upper hand we need to get recruits in that dont need a TEETHING time in the EPL …If they still need time to adjust i sure arsene would just rather keep buying youth ..
By: ethan_gun on December 15, 2007
at 3:34 am
Flamini will start.. He was ready to start i hear against steaua , but arsene used that game as a glorified friendly .
By: ethan_gun on December 15, 2007
at 3:36 am
I dreamt that we beat them 2-0. For some reason I was flamini in the dream. Cesc scores a brace quite early in the first half.
I’m going with that. Come on you reeeeeeds!
By: Z on December 15, 2007
at 6:21 am
Wenger doesn’t buy what you call “proven players” then, or does it veeery rarely. You should get used to it. We’re not going to buy Terry.
Arsène knows there’s football outside the EPL too. That’s where he found most of the current team: Lehman, Almunia, Fabiansky, Sagna, Eboué, Kolo, Senderos, Clichy, Traoré, Cesc, Flamini, Rosicky, Diaby, Hleb, RVP, Ade, Eduardo. There isn’t a lot of young talent available in the EPL and ON SALE. Nevermind on a reasonable price… That’s why Arsène, who (together with his scouts) watches football from all over the world, will bring players we probably don’t even know, from foreign leagues. And not very od, because he likes developing them. Those are the general guidelines for his transfer policy: avoiding the hype, avoiding inflated prices, avoiding aging/declining players, favouring youth, looking way beyond the EPL and also beyond the G14.
But the policy of lots of fans says: buy stars, buy english, buy from the EPL, buy “proven”, buy even if it’s expensive.
So you’re always going to be in conflict.
And I’ll probably side with Arsène.
By: Non Edible Nacho on December 15, 2007
at 6:30 am
As long as Senderos, Eboue and Ade not playing then Arsenal can win. Line-up:
Almunia
Sagna-Gallas-Toure-Clichy
Rosicky-Eduardo-Helb-Diaby
Bendter-RVP
By: HeadGunners on December 15, 2007
at 6:57 am
Ade will play, Eboué possibly too. And Arsenal can win with them.
By: Non Edible Nacho on December 15, 2007
at 7:27 am
By the way, HeadGunners… I understand certain attacking thirst but… holding midfielders? Hello?
By: Non Edible Nacho on December 15, 2007
at 7:28 am
i know nacho your stating the obvious.
But for every player you’ve said thats made it lets talk about .
Bentley-pennant-larson-stokes-lupoli-sidwell-aliadiere-
muamba and the list really does go on ! ALOT !
They still needed wages and not even to mention the huge coaching task(resources) involved in their development .
Just to give these players away to other clubs.
A hit and miss mentality !
Its far more productive to get 4 or 5 sure bets
like the babels ,torres and nani’s . Who cost a little more , but would NOT loose value irrespective if they were a success or not.
And of course you’ll never see terry in an arsenal shirt, i was just stating players of his caliber ,
(please stop taking my opinions so literal) not unknown Norway youth or another senderos which might take years of development before the club reaps any rewards. We are sitting on top of the EPL table ,we have everything to lose as you can only go down .
Then you have the reyes’s and anelka’s who come to arsenal at a young age (experience wise) plucked from obscurity , then decide they are bigger than the club after a successful season or 2 later. I would rather see sanga style signings (24+years old) not too young and definitely not too old , and can fill the void quickly .
Id like to get your opinion on the goalie situation!
because i bet you will state My proto-type , than your own ! ..
By: ethan_gun on December 15, 2007
at 7:43 am
Nacho
i don’t think ade will play
My guess is arsene will opt for 4-5-1 with RVP alone up front .. I do hate this formation but all previous top 4 meetings he has chosen this approach ..
I really would love!!!!!!!!! to see a 4-4-2 (in that case it would be ade or bentner), but in all honesty i think wenger will use -walcott-rosicky-cesc-flamini-eboue-. And at least rest either hleb or cesc . but have 1 of them on the bench.Goalies ? hmmm my vote is for almunia,but I’m sure 50% will agree with me and the other 50% wont …
By: ethan_gun on December 15, 2007
at 7:58 am
We have 3 decent goalkeepers but if Jens goes (very likely in June) then we need another one, sure. But it can come from the youth ranks, maybe, as a third, if Almunia performs well enough to keep his #1 spot or Wenger thinks Fabiansky is ready. If neither of those happens, Arsène will buy…
Regarding the “flops”, I think it’s quite clear that some youth players won’t make. It’s obvious indeed. Arsène buys and promotes more youngsters than the number that can go into the first team squad. He knows some won’t make it, and when that moment comes or the player wants to go elsewhere, we make money by selling them to keep financing the program and its infrastructure. Some can’t be sold maybe, and it’s another acceptable and well known risk. We don’t lose much money with those anyway, youth players don’t earn that much.
But this approach enables one other thing: the players are brought up playing the kind of football Arsenal play. Have you seen the reserves or youth team players in action? They play just like the first team! Fullbacks overlapping, midfielders moving without the ball to create space, fast passing, interchangable positions, agile centerbacks, adaptability to more than one role, good discipline… this can’t be achieved buying 28 YO ready-made players. Sometimes you can find a couple of players that more or less fit, but it’s not that easy! Very few teams/players play Wenger’s way. And almost none of them are in England, that’s for sure. Then, when you buy someone, even if he’s talented, he won’t adapt as easily to Arsenal’s approach. It’s much harder with prima donnas than with young guys with open minds.
That’s why the “proven player” approach wouldn’t work, and could ruin the current setup and style of football we are enjoying at the club.
By: Non Edible Nacho on December 15, 2007
at 8:06 am
Theo is injured, knock in the knee, won’t play.
By: Non Edible Nacho on December 15, 2007
at 8:07 am
shite theo is out !!
Firstly jens will 99% go in january .(the 1% is if he becomes 1st choice again ) A player his age wouldn’t accept another 6 months out , especially one who is trying to keep a grip on his international career .
Also i never said a 28 year old proven player .(24+)
Sanga age, who have achieved some recognition in there respective fields ,and suit the arsenal style of play .
Anelka is the ONLY one who i would approve of that sort of age 29, and that is only because he was once arsenal , and a one man goal scoring machine.. (but i here the chev’s will get him to replace drogba! )
And a lot of European clubs play a passing game similar to arsenals , Its only our league where its left wanting , we have too many bolton’s and chelsea’s in our league playing psychical and long ball tactics. But when in rome …
I suggest watching some Spanish,french and Italian football. You will see the quality isn’t unlike arsenals style of play. There are plenty of players who would suit our game . Hleb-rosicky-sanga-gallas all didnt come from our youth program you know ! But they were purchased by arsene to do a job (quickly)and they have delivered .
SAVVY?
By: ethan_gun on December 15, 2007
at 8:42 am
Also i think you avoided the goalie question !
WHO ? what age ? where from ? our youth academy?
and its obvious he will buy .. But who ?
By: ethan_gun on December 15, 2007
at 8:43 am
and before you say they didn’t deliver THEY DID !, at that time our youth was holding us back .. which made the team look average ..
By: ethan_gun on December 15, 2007
at 8:46 am
and some were being played out of position gallas- left back , and hleb on the wing . and rosicky is STILL being played out of position , but he is classy enough to still look good. and sanga is a revelation !
By: ethan_gun on December 15, 2007
at 9:04 am
the ethan is back when the gun is down and expect it to go away as soon as we go up!
By: kaka on December 15, 2007
at 6:21 pm