Posted by: Yogi's Warrior | December 8, 2007

Meltdown? It is not Arsenal or Arsene’s problem

I wonder how much the PFA paid for their report, the Press Release of which is filling all of the back pages. Whatever it cost, they were tucked up like a kipper. Their findings are nothing new, entirely tedious and the solution so laughable that it begs the question as to whether or not their members’ best interests are being served by it.

The Daily Telegraph
carried an outline of the report’s focus on Arsenal’s Academy. In seeking to highlight their points, the PFA appear to make some interesting interpretations of the facts. They claim only five players can be considered full graduates of the Academy system: Kerrea Gilbert, Ben Gill, Fabrice Muamba, Dominic Shimmin and Anthony Stokes. Interestingly, they have sought to erase other players who spent their entire ‘pre-professional’ careers at the club, namely Steve Sidwell, James Harper and Graham Stack. Why? They did not spend all of their time at the Academy because they were in the youth system already. This is disingenuous at best.

Clarification needs to be given as to why the PFA have chosen this route, particularly as the report spends some time comparing the Premier League statistics from 1992 onwards. However in their benefit is that the Report in full is not yet widely available; their website pointed to a story about Raymond Domenech from the link about how foreign players are ruining the English game. Sometimes the unintentional ironies are the best.

Gordon Taylor though does make it clear that Arsenal is not the focus of the Report.

Arsene Wenger is a manager you cannot help but admire and it is not his job to look after the interests of the England team. We have no issue with him bringing in young players from abroad such as Cesc Fabregas – at least in the Arsenal academy there is a level playing field for the young English players

This leads to the interesting contradiction in their findings. They want to improve the England team but by insisting that three homegrown players irrespective of their nationality are on the pitch at any one time. I have thought about that long and hard; how this helps England is beyond me so what is the point in the Report?

Arsene meanwhile found an ally in his views in Gianluca Vialli who summed up the problem with buying English players succinctly,

Shaun Wright-Philips is worth £20million because he’s English. If he were, say, Portuguese, he’d cost a quarter of that

Wright-Phillips is nowhere near the quality that you would expect when players cost that much so why should Arsene overpay because he is English. He has done so in the past and got his fingers badly burned with Francis Jeffers.

In the midst of the self-righteous indignation of the tabloids, Arsene cut to the chase,

You can close your eyes and not want any competition or you can open your eyes and say ‘we have the best players in the world here’ let us produce players of that quality

Therein lies the rub; the players are not good enough and irrespective of what people might say, Arsene only has a duty to Arsenal Football Club. Were they to accept that, solutions can be found but not through the half-witted use of quotas.

Theo Walcott is the subject of a piece in by Henry Winter. He recalls speaking to Arsene recently – It was daunting going up to him; a bit like going to the headmaster’s study – about why he what he had to do to get into the first team,

He said I needed to be more aggressive, not kicking people, but running at players, getting behind players, doing the stuff he bought me for. He put me in against Slavia Prague and the two goals helped. If I had played poorly, maybe I would be in his bad books. I put myself about that game

Walcott is undeniably talented but needs more consistency of performance to push for a regular starting line-up. He has youth on his side and would do well to consider Arsene’s words about quotas,

I prefer to tell a boy, ‘Listen my friend, you are not good enough. We are in a job that’s down to quality and I do not want to give you a job of just sitting on the bench because somebody in an office has decided that you need to be in the squad.’ It’s ridiculous and it’s unfair. It is better for that player to play in the second division, where he is one of the stronger players, than sitting on the bench at Arsenal and feeling he’s not good enough and with no respect from people around him

Arsene continues to include Walcott in squad’s and line-ups on a regular basis show a degree of faith in the player. He has time on his side and need not be in a rush to break through. That he is shows his desire to make it to the top. A bit more application and he will do so.

‘til Tomorrow.


Responses

  1. It frightens me that the kind of drivel you refer to covers the back pages of mass circulation media whilst calm voices of sanity like your own appear only in specialist places like this excellent blog.

    KOKO Yogi

  2. Thank you for a very interesting piece there YW. You always manage to get our teeth into something.

    The headlines of the PFA report are pathetic, is the whole less futile? I doubt it.

    It sounds like a report commissioned to agree with pre set results.

    We all look at this issue with self interest. In the main Arsenal supporters, me certainly, don’t care where a player comes from. We just want to see a side with great players capable of taking on anybody.

    I am sure, deep down, that would be the same with any supporter anywhere in the English game. The difference is that Arsenal have, because of its resources (know how & financial), been able to assemble a team from around the world. Most other clubs don’t have that ability in that respect.

    We could say that it is ok at our level but why are there so many foreign players in the lower leagues too?

    That wouldn’t be right, though because those clubs also have a right to do the best for themselves & their supporters. If a foreign player is better value, so be it.

    The question the PFA should be asking is, why are foreign players giving more value & what can be done to rectify the situation. Protectionism will be totally counter productive.

    The answer lies in a better system of producing English players together with the willingness of the youngsters to learn & progress in the correct manner.

    It seems to me that there needs to be another level of substantial competition for the elite young players, approaching 1st team level.

    One option would be feeder clubs but that it unlikely to be popular, with fans of that club, & would it be the right type of football?

    We talked about this last year YW, but I still feel a proper Reserve Premier League, would be both attractive & provide a stimulating competition to progress a player for 2/3 years. It could be aimed at under 23s with say 3/5 over age players to provide some guile to learn from.

    Theo is 18, should not be in the spotlight that he is in. He is an outstanding prospect, who should be seen as no more than that.

    I hope he has the mental strength, I think he has.

  3. I actually challenge the validity of this ‘report’. How are the PFA qualified to write such a report? On what basis are their figures relevant?

    Arsene Wenger has a masters degree in Economics. I have an undergraduate degree in the same subject. I think we both have an understanding of the subject of markets, quotas, etc. far better than a bunch of ex players and whoever else the PFA might be.

    The argument is extremely complex. In the short term, there is no doubt that quotas would harm the game and create ridiculous distortions of the prices of english players. The quality and the popularity of the PL would fall in comparison to other leagues, the revenue generated would fall, and it woud have implications economy-wide. And it would not help the national team.

    In the long run, there may be benefits for english football. Its complex, and depends on other factors. Protectionism has helped develop the economies of the USA and Britain when they were developing. However, an argument based entirely on quotas is ridiculous. Its clear that the foundations are not there in the english game. That would be the ideal place to start. In today’s world, quotas, in any market, do more harm than good.

    And yet the PFA is to be treated as if they have some authority or knowledge on the topic. Shameful.

  4. Flint, I think that’s a good point. If we had a properly competitive reserve league, the likes of Theo and Bendtner could be playing regularly and honing their skills away from the harsh light of the premiership.

    They also need to do something about the over pricing that goes on within the English market. The most expensive player in the Arsenal squad is an 18 year old Englishman with potential. He is not currently the most valuable player in the squad.

  5. If part of the problem is that an English player costs far more than a foreigner, then there is something obviously wrong with the transfer system. Perhaps if the fee was structured in a way that allowed English players to move between clubs for a realistic fee maybe that would give them a better opportunity to prove themselves.

    Secondly, how would a quota system improve an English players technique or ability? One of the biggest problems in this country is the way boys are coached and by that I mean by the so called professional coaches who instill in their students the necessity to win above the need to be able to control a ball. In the England set up I would say there are only a few who have the required technique to compare with their foreign counterparts.

    Parents should be banned from attending their childrens matches or at least be instructed not to pass out their unqualified coaching tips. There is nothing more frustrating than listening to an over competitive parent bellowing out orders such as “Boot it out”, “Clear it” and my favourite which is telling a 9 year to “shooooot” from 30 yards out.

    Instead of the PFA spending a small fortune in compiling a dossier to show the increase in foreigners and the effect it has had on English players they should be begging foreign coaches on how to improve the coaching system.

    Finally, if this report was put together by the BNP to report the effect “foreigners” are having on the English workforce, many people would be up in arms about the nationalist/fascist content but because its about football it all seems pretty acceptable. If I were a foreign professional in this country I would insist Gordon Taylor be removed as the chairman, he is paid to represent all his members not just the English. I don’t hear him complaining when his union get their cut of all transfer deals, so perhaps this just another opportunity to speak out against Arsene Wenger, he always seems to blame him for everything.

  6. Can anybody think of a single instance where the PFA have contributed something significant to football?

    As others above have said, it takes web sites like this to provide the intelligent debate.

    The conclusion “It’s not our fault! Blame the bloody foreigners!” is so facile and superficial that I am alarmed that anybody gives it space in the media. Fortunately, I have started to see more cogent analysis appearing in the media lately and I think that people like Trevor Brooking now has a better understanding of the difference between cause and effect.

    Well done, for your piece above, YW.

  7. There are some good points made above about the PFA report concerning it’s credibility & accuracy, & the issues it touches on.

    For some reason, I was naively & perhaps ignorantly under the impression that the Professional Footballers Association represented the interests of all it’s members, including those so called foreign players who are living & working in the country.

    After all, the PFA is a trade union for professional football players, and I presumed that players automatically became members unless they specifically decided to opt out, or join a similar, alternative organisation that I may not be aware of.

    So I was surprised to see that the PFA had commissioned a report in which the apparent terms of reference, brief & findings were, inevitably, going to be hostile to a substantial minority – the “foreign contigent” – of it’s members.

    Perhaps there should now be two PFAs’…one representing “home grown” players and one representing “foreign players”.

    Certainly some organisation or body is needed that seriously and genuinely seeks to stand up for and represent the interests of foreign players in this country (both privately and publicly), as they are coming under attack like never before, almost weekly.

    I guess I shouldn’t have been surprised by this PFA report – I have been observing Gordon Taylor long enough to know that every time he opens his mouth, he reminds me of one of those trade union leaders that you used to see on TV at TUC & Labour Party conferences back in the ’70’s,
    fighting tooth & nail against change of any sort.

    I find this whole debate – if that’s what it is – about the impact of foreign players & managers on English Football and the need to find scapegoats for the consistent failure of the national football team at international level, deeply distasteful, dishonest, backward looking and xenophobic, to put it mildly.

    To my mind, Liam Brady hit the nail right on the head when, in a recent article in “The Guardian”, he made the connection between the UK’s long standing obssession with immigration, & it’s current focus on foreign footballers and how both are conveniently blamed for all the ills of the UK & the English national game respectively.

    The fact of the matter is that the overwhelming majority of so called foreign players operating in the UK are from other countries within the European Union, and, as such, they have as much right to live, work and die in this country as the Queen, the Duke of Westminster or any other symbol of the English/British establishment that you care to name.

    These rights were granted in 1957 by the Treaty of Rome and have been built on and developed considerably since then by subsequent legislation.

    They reflect the fact that the process of globalisation – in all spheres of life & work – has started, developed and is going to progress exponentially for the foreseeable future.

    There is simply no turning back the clock…globalisation is here, and it’s not going anywhere anytime soon.

    This is why, in my view, the attitudes & visions of Gordon Taylor & the PFA, amongst others, are simply well past their use by date, and I believe it is what Arsene was referring to when he talked about some people “closing their eyes and not wanting any competition”.

    The football industry in this country has collectively failed to plan and prepare past & current generations of players, managers, boardroom directors and others (earning a living within the game) for the onset of globalisation and what it means to operate in a global football economy in the 21st Century.

    It looks as if they still haven’t grasped what time it is, if their continued scape goating of foreign players & managers and calls for quotas and harking back to a golden period that nobody can find any evidence of, is anything to go by.

  8. I wanted to add the following to my comments on globalisation above.

    In football terms, globalisation means that home grown players, managers, boardroom directors & others have to raise their game, and improve the quality & standard of what they’re offering the global football economy, as well as offering it at a competitive market price.

    There needs to be a general realisation that nobody can be assured of a job within the game simply because of their nationality, their colour, the old (football) boys’ network, or because this country once used to have & run an empire.

    If the quality & standard of what home grown players, managers etc have to offer is not good enough and does not provide value for money when compared with their counterparts from any part of the global football economy…then they either need to raise their game, and improve, or set their sights & expectations lower (i.e. try to earn a living at a level of football commensurate with what they have to offer) or simply retrain & get a job in a completely different field altogether, as many people who didn’t make it within the game (for one reason or another, including deep seated racism) have had to do.

    Home grown players, managers etc also have rights under the 1957 Treaty of Rome (as amended) to live, work & die in other European Union countries too – that is, if they are good enough & there is a demand for their services.

    Home grown players, managers etc need, as they say, “to get with the programme”, and stop thinking that simply because they are English/British & this country invented the game of football that they have divine & inalienable rights to jobs within the game, including at the top levels.

    They have no such rights, and need to realise that in the 21st Century, they have to compete fairly & squarely with their domestic & foreign counterparts for jobs, resources and glory.

    In addition, any success obtained has to be consistently earned, week in, week out, month after month, season after season. No one should expect success to be handed to them on a home grown plate.

    The English sports media, as well as fans, players, & managers, need to realise that since football was invented in this country, it has been reinvented (and then some) many times over by other countries around the world.

    This has meant, amongst other things, that the largely rigid, physical, win at all costs one dimensional game coached & played over here can no longer cut it at international level, if indeed it ever did.

    Technique, technique and more technique is where it’s at today, and rightly so.

  9. Hear, hear Magneto! But it’s so much easier to blame the foreigner.

  10. Good stuff! Here’s my tuppence worth. Protectionism tends to “work” only when you have a significant advantage (economic and/or technical) over a competitor, but it only ever buys time against the increasing development of external competition operating in a lively vibrant open market. In circumstances where external competitors are closing the gap it often pays to open your own protected market and thereby promote innovation and increased competitiveness. The secret to success is in the timing of opening that market and finding your niche (eg quality). However, when you have an inferior product to start with I cannot think of circumstances where protectionism does anything other than stultify and ultimately lead to irrevocable decline. The collective skills of English football are clearly inferior right now in terms of technique, quality and marketability, and therefore protection through quotas will not help in any significant way. All you will create and promote is an inferior insular “English” brand of football that will be irrelevant and inferior to the rest of the world.

  11. Wow, what a brilliant illustration there Magneto.

    I don’t know if membership of the PFA is obligatory for all players, playing in England.

    That may be an important issue in the way the PFA is acting with this report.

    It does excellent work for players, who at any age, fall on hard times, & it provides all kinds of support for its members, past & present.

    In order for it to be funded, it needs income, reliant on the economy of the game. Income derived from a %age of the current players’ salaries.

    We know that the PL is fantastically successful, mainly because of the huge amount of talent on view in every game. Reducing that talent dilutes the quality, then the desirability & eventually the income.

    Bubble
    It is not just a matter of the transfer fee. The problem lies with the lack of a quantity of quality players available to purchase.

    The lower league clubs used to provide a good grounding for developing players. They no longer seem able to so.

    Why is that?

    Probably because of lack of funding, but these clubs have always struggled financially.

    There has been talk of the pyramid with the England team at the top of it.

    They are looking at it the wrong way round. The foundations have to be right & those are at the ‘grass roots level’ in my opinion.

    It is the FA’s responsibility to get that right as a priority.

  12. Guys, all good points and well argued there!

    I was also curious who exactly PFA represents and how. Here it is:
    http://www.givemefootball.com/pfasection/pfaintro.html

    It apparently represents all professional players. And how they’re doing more harm than good by publishing this ill-advised report is scary, to say the least.

  13. I think this whole subject is missing one very important reason for the failures of English football. We always talk about the players but what about the English Managers? Can you tell me how many real world class English Managers there are in the Premiere League?

    The problem of English football is that the real English world class players of 1966 who all mostly retired anything to do with football. Look at all world class coaches/managers in any other country….Italy the last world cup winner, the majority of managers were mostly successful Italian players. If I start listing their names it will take sometime. How many English Manager abroad? None that I know.

    Arsene is right, only a real world class English manager will get England to win titles….the question is who…no English manger in the field right now qualify. I have no doubt that if England was managed by a Fabio Cabello with the current English players, the results would have been different.

    Leave the foreigners alone, in %99 of the time…these are the people who really work hard to earn their money.

    Good Luck Gunners,
    G4E

  14. If Arsene was run over by a bus, is there an English manager who could succeed him. No!

    African Mputu for a modest fee based on Arsene’s track record or Englishman Bent for 16 million. Mputu please.

    Watched Sky Sports News with Stelling and his mates. They spoke some sense talking about the problems of England, poor technique etc. Then went on to talk about how good Newcastle were on Weds. I think they deserved a draw but, footballistically, they were shit. There’s your problem. The football, fans like to watch in this country is shit. If Newcastle tried to keep possession and build patiently, the fans would be on their back. You get what you deserve, shit! All the arguments about foreign players are red herrings. To avoid the truth. England and English players are shit. Have quotas and teams will be made up of first rate shit English players with second rate shit players on the bench.

    I’m English, could not give a toss about England nor whether an Englishman ever plays for Arsenal again whilst the majority play shit. Have I made my point clearly enough


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