Posted by: Yogi's Warrior | September 8, 2007

Arsene And England

The signing of a new contract by Arsene Wenger settles the dust, committing him to virtually four more seasons at the Club from today. It is good news in many respects, not least because it keeps the man best qualified for the job in situ. The length of the deal provides a settling aspect to the playing staff. Most, if not all, of the players have given him various pledges of loyalty over the summer, commenting on how he was one of the main reasons that they signed for the Club; how he has developed them or will do so in the future. That led to some accusations that Wenger was bigger than the Club but in some respects misses the point. When you go for any job interview, if you do not like the person who will be your direct manager or disagree with their viewpoint on how objectives should be achieved, you do not take the offer, if it is made. Footballers are no different; the managers personality is stamped on the team, beliefs reflected on how the game should be played. If a prospective signing does not like it, they will not sign for the Club.

His achievements are undeniable; singularly the most successful manager in the Clubs history, he has enabled the Club to take commercial advantage of the success. If we had not had the stability of manager, it is questionable if the Board would be able to resist financial overtures. In the same way that Herbert Chapman’s legacy is being exploited, there is little doubt that when Wenger eventually succumbs to retirement, there will be a whole of host of objets d’art available to purchase from the Club shop.

The most important thing to me though, is the rebuilding cycle that we are coming out of. It is not just the first team that will have matured in the natural length of the contract, it is the next generation coming through. This team is his first successful ‘youth promotion’ exercise en masse. In three years time, the reserves and youths at the Club will be on the verge of, if not in, the first team squad, a new generation filling their void at the younger levels. That will be his legacy to the Club because I will be surprised if he does sign another deal as Manager, given his public pronouncements on age and longevity. When he does step down, his successor will find a structure in place with very able coaching staff and facilities, matured through seasons in place and there are few Clubs that can actually say that. In a world of short term objectives, the Board have done well to resist outside pressures to enable the manager to set up and hopefully deliver in the longer term.

International Weekend and time for a brief look at the time when this level of football matters. England are being pumped up with the usual rhetoric from the media; a must win game (and for once it genuinely is) with the team being set up for the fall before a ball is kicked. Jingoism and Patriotic Pride are easily interchangeable with the ‘Skipper’ leading the charge. It is a match which could quite easily go as planned, a three goal home win should be achievable. To think that all the players have to do is turn up is to ignore the facts in front of you; the Israelis have a good record over the past four years in Qualifying matches. With Croatia and Russia looking set to take three points today, England need to match their results to stay in touch and, hopefully, take advantage with another win on Wednesday night.

For the rest of the Arsenal squad dotted around the Globe, my fingers are crossed for you. Not to win although that would be nice for you personally, just to come back in one piece ready for the Tottenham game.

With the kids all healed up, it definitely is ’til Tomorrow.


Responses

  1. There was never really a doubt he would sign a new contract. Arsene Wenger is about as intelligent as they come in the game. There were varying shouts from Ethan and the likes that he should have signed earlier. That he has destabilised the club.

    In reality it is the press who have attempted to destabilise the club and those that have fallen for that facade will blame the boss. This is a man who has similarly negitiated every contract renewal. The reasons are two fold- number one he is an intelligent man with a degree in economics, he get’s the best deals for the club and it is only fair he should get the best deal for himself. In fact, he could have probably got more. Number two and key to the doubters is he has always claimed himself to be a man of integrity, a man who honours his contracts, he has backed this claim with his actions.

    So he genuinely intends to stay till that contracts ends, no matter who comes calling and he has resisted the many glamorous suitors in the past.

    I read an interesting point on another blog, which asked how our rivals would react to him leaving. It is quite clear, living in Manchester I know they would be gleefully rubbing their hands together loving every second.

    To be fair Yogi is quite right, when he does leave, it may not be so bad, simply because of all the good he has done. For now I look forward to more of the Wenger magic.

  2. glad to hear your kids are fine, YW.

    there is an open thread at the guardian about what’s next for arsenal now that wenger has signed his contract. funny how two years without a trophy is considered quite tragic; funnier that the first commenter who pointed that out is a chelsea supporter.

    so many euro qualifiers with arsenal players; i kind of don’t know which one i should focus on. i echo your thoughts and hope all our boys come through without injuries.

  3. Glad your kids have recovered Yogi, and compliments on a nice post.
    The European title, with a team staffed predominantly with homegrown talent will be a fitting legacy for Wenger’s time at the Arsenal.
    I hope this team goes the length.
    More pertinently, I join you in keeping fingers crossed for an injury free international outing for the lads.

  4. Why do you keep writing ‘club’ with a capital c?

  5. Ryan

    Whilst it is a common noun, the use of the word “club” specifically refers to Arsenal, not the generic use applied to football clubs.

    HTH

    YW

  6. Is that a bit like referring to The Arsenal? I like it.
    I was a bit surprised to hear AW has backed the new CL format under platini. I think its true though that if the FA winner is in the top 3 then the other spot goes to the 4th team in the league. can anyone confirm this?

  7. Gazzap

    I think you are right. It wouldn’t make much difference to English teams though as, I believe, that there have only been two occasions in the last decade when the Cup Winners have not finished in the Top Four.

    YW

  8. Did you guys read the news about DD saying AW “wasn’t sure” about signing on earlier this year? THis guy’s starting to sound shamelessly desperate in his attempt to take credit from “persuading” AW to stay. Pathetic.

    I mean AW himself just said on Friday that he always wanted to stay to win things with this team but wanted to see how much hunger/desire the guys had before committing.

    ARRRGGGHHH >_<

  9. Louisa, you read my mind! I came here to vent because I cannot believe how low Dein would sink. It makes Arsene appear to be a liar when he said he always intended to extend his contract and never considered leaving. DD has lost so much credibility in my eyes. I no longer trust anything he says.

  10. Dein destabilising the club again, saying today that Arsenal had wanted to leave when he left, creating the impression that he convinced Arsene to stay. DD should just leave Arsenal in peace and concentrate on how to make use of his windfall of 75 million. He sold Arsenal down the Tashkent river to Russian mafiosi. The information in the City is that Red and White are buying up small holders’ shares but don’t think they can get the AST shares of 12% and the Board’s of 45%, so they will remain just as investors but nothing more. I know for the general good of Arsenal, the Board will continue to resist the Russian vultures waiting to pounce on the club.

  11. Much as I’m firmly with the supporters on the side of anti-takeover etc., I think the anti-Dein stuff has gone a little too far now. David’s done quite a few things I’ve disagreed with, and his stance against us building a new stadium has proved foolish, but to say he hasn’t been instrumental in our success, or genuinely had Arsenal’s best-interests at heart, is rather disrespectful.

    There is no question that David Dein is an Arsenal fan, and I think to see the fans turn against him in this way is rather cruel.

    I’m Arsene Wenger’s biggest fan, I hope all Arsenal fans would consider themselves that, and I respect Arsene’s intelligence and judgement of character completely. Arsene Wenger enjoyed his working relationship with Dein, and continues to enjoy a personal relationship – to paint Dein as some anti-Arsenal, nasty piece-of-work doesn’t add up. Arsene Wenger above all would have seen through that.

    Arsene is a man of honour and would have felt very uncomfortable with Dein (his friend and the man that put him in his position) being removed from his position. Without Dein’s personal encouragement to stay on, Arsene may have felt duty-bound to leave at the end of his contract. To dismiss Dein’s claims to that effect seems naive.

    In dismissal, Dein has kept his mouth shut and maintained the honour and secrecy of the club, where perhaps a non-Arsenal man would have kicked up a media-storm. Could you have seen Ken Bates behaving in the same way as Dein? With this russian investment, Dein has gone out of his way not to destabilise the club and has today claimed there won’t be a takeover, personally, I think all this business has been concluded with as little fuss as we could have hoped for. All parties seem to be pulling in the right directionand at this moment in time, I don’t have any concerns regards the continued sensible running of the club.

    My only wish now would be that Dein and the board, as well as Kronke, find common ground and unite behind the club. Let the club and it’s business go from strength to strength, let these business men come and go, buying and selling their shares as they see fit, with a stable-core of Arsenal-people remaining at the heart of the club.

  12. “but to say he hasn’t been instrumental in our success, or genuinely had Arsenal’s best-interests at heart, is rather disrespectful.”

    hboy, everyone is entitled to their own opinion but I don’t see where anyone has said that. I am not happy with DD’s latest statement and I’ve expressed that. That is all.

  13. Hboy

    Nobody has said Dein hasn’t contributed to the success of the club. Nobody has said so. Equally so many has contributed, Edelman, Fiszman, Ken Friar all the diligent working guys including Pat Rice have all contributed; some of you talk as if Arsenal will fail without Dein. Arsenal existed before Dein and will continue to do so after Dein. Dein wanted to sell the club at the back of the Board, was found and thrown out. He’s now sold his shares to the Russians for so much money. He has no shares in Arsenal anymore so he should move on and make use of his money, and collect his JUDAS salaries from RED and WHYTE. He’s all about self and nothing else. The Dein family can’t be trusted; Darren Dein also was instrumental in selling Henry to BARCA apparently as advised by his father. They are a bunch of money grabbing, egoistic people who can’t be trusted. He’s now embarrassing Arsene. In fact, fans trust Arsene more than Dein when he said there was no way he would’ve left the club so Dein is LYING BIG. THE GUY CAN’T BE TRUSTED. WATCH YOUR BACK IF HE IS BEHIND YOU.

  14. sometimes methinks DD hires trolls to go to the blogs for his PR machine. It makes absolutely no sense to back someone who left the club so unceremoniously and then sold his shares to someone with such a shady background. absolutely no sense.

  15. for me DD as an influence in the Arsenal business model should no longer be taken seriously. yes he is a fan and yes he has done good things for the Club in the past but as in so many things in life, all good things come to an end and his involvement at board level should be over. I dont know any Arsenal fans that trust him anymore with regards the future of our Club.

  16. Great looking blog. Maybe I missed it if someone mentioned it – but even as a supporter of a ‘Big 4′ rival, I would be sorry to see Arsene leave English football, for the sole reason that his teams have played the best football over the last 10 years. It keeps the pressure up on the rest of us, not just to win, but win in style.

  17. hboy, just my 2 cents:

    1. Like Passenal and Howard pointed out, nobody ever said Dein wasn’t instrumental in the success of the club. But (a) as Howard also said it’s a team effort, as much as anyone’s. (b) The club has also paid him back BIG TIME. Not just the 75m he grabbed from the sale of his shares, but also the high profile and power he enjoyed as Arsenal’s public face in the FA and Europe.

    2. As to the potential takeover, if he’s an honest person with integrity, why did he:
    (a) try to sell the club behind the board’s backs?
    (b) abort his plans with Kroenke (or Kroenke realised he’s not trustworthy and pulled out? He’s possibly talking to PHW and KE more than DD now btw)?
    (c) think it’s better to have a sugar-daddy-type investor than do business the usual way, while the stadium has become our cash cow?
    (d) bring in some criminal like Usmanov who’s certainly dangerous and embarrassing?

    3. Best interest – does he have the best interest of Arsenal or of himself at heart? It’s getting more and more obvious. If like he said he just wants to take the club to the top of the world, he could have tried to reconcile with the board instead of selling out. Even if he truly thinks takeover is the best way to achieve success, like I said, he doesn’t have to choose someone so questionable (if not dishonourable) like Usmanov, of all billionaires in this world.

    4. Of course we respect AW’s judgement of character. But people do change. Maybe, just maybe, the combination of 75m, the possibility of coming back to Arsenal as the new chairman, the ambition to get back to power in the FA as well as Europe and everywhere through Arsenal and the potential of reaping success in view of the healthy financial outlook might just swing it and make him hungry enough to do this. Also, if you look at how Arsene responded to (sorry I’m repeating myself again) the question of DD’s role in “persuading” him to stay, he almost looked embarrassed to have to explain that’s not the case… Arsene does know. He’s just too classy to badmouth his friend.

    5. Yes DD did stay silent when he’s thrown out. But whether that’s because he’s too graceful to say things to hurt the club, or he’s simply plotting and thought better of bitching about his departure, we don’t know.

    If like you said we were naive to dismiss DD’s claim of his role in keeping AW, it’s equally if not more naive to say DD has a clear conscience on this.

    Sorry for the long post but I just felt compelled to say what’s on my mind as I was surprised at the defence of DD.

  18. I’ve just come across a fair and good piece about DD, covering some of our arguments. Click on my name on the left to get to Vital Arsenal if you please. I’m glad the majority of Arsenal fans seem to be sensible, albeit a bit angry in this case.


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