| Arsenal | 3 | Rosicky 7, | Fabregas 82, | Eduardo 89 | ||
| Sparta Prague | 0 |
| Agg: 5 – 0 |
A comfortable cruise into the Group Phase. It was not the best performance you will witness but it did not need to be after seven minutes. Once Tomas Rosicky’s opener went in, there was no need to play at ‘full pelt’ and the team duly obliged on that score, containing Sparta, almost treating the match as a practice session. Or as Arsene put it afterwards,
We kept good focus, there’s not a lot more to say. You felt always that if needed we could put our foot on the gas and score
It is a difficult match to comment on; the team could perhaps have pushed themselves more but that begs the question as to why there was a need to do so? Surely it is better not to expend the energy when you do not need to? There will no doubt be the usual criticism of Senderos but it is largely without foundation given the paucity of decent opposition on show. I can see the comments now about how he should have been concentrating all night and not allowed some minor errors to creep in, a decent side would have punished such laxness.
However, you have to counter your arguments before they are made and consider that he was firstly, not the only one in the back four to fall asleep during the game, others made worse mistakes – Clichy let Rezek in for a chance that should have been buried, Hoyte put Almunia under pressure early on with an underhit back pass – and in the end, the Sparta forwards caused little or no trouble in the first place. Alas Senderos is one of those players in whom some do not have confidence so the circumstances of the match will make no difference to their opinions.
The minimal level of effort required contained several bright spots. All three of the goals came through neat and tidy interchanges from wide positions. RvP and Hoyte combined well to set Walcott free on the right, his low, hard and precise cross buried by Rosicky. The finish was crisp and Walcott’s general play on the right was for me, a huge plus. Sure, he had a couple of wasteful balls but name a winger that does not replicate that. His running off the ball was generally well-timed, both wide and centrally.
Eduardo was another positive, playing thoughtfully and diligently. His work for Cesc’s goal was excellent, killing a firm pass and then taking out the Right Back with consumate ease but having enough composure to tee up Fabregas for a powerful drive through several players. Huge credit goes to Adebayor and Denilson for the build up to Eduardo’s own finish. They worked well together on the right hand side of the Sparta box, Denilson then picking out a decent cross for Eduardo to deftly volley into the net, getting a good angle on the ball despite being so close to the goal and the Sparta Custodian.
In midfield, there were no poor performances. Walcott as mentioned before was good, Rosicky scored a well-taken goal and did well whilst on the pitch. If he can replicate the finish on a regular basis, perhaps the criticism of playing him on the left will abate. Gilberto on his return seemed happy and hopefully that will quell the ongoing rumours of an impending transfer. It was probably an ideal game for him to get back into the swing of midfield things having played centre back on Saturday. It was a good performance too, from Diaby in what I think all of us consider to be his natural position, central midfield. I won’t say who it reminded me of, for it will have been the same for you. The key thing for him now is to stay fit and then start pushing for regular inclusion. Using this a base, I cannot see any reason to consider anyone ahead of him in the queue for Central Midfield in the long term.
All in all, job done with a good aggregate win. Another victory under the teams belt for the season, breeding more confidence and for the defence a clean sheet. And more importantly, inclusion in the draw for the Group Stage of the Champions League.
The win though has not stopped speculation about Jens’ future, possibly added to it with Almunia playing two and yet to concede. This morning’s Daily Mail regurgitates yesterday’s Times and Star reports that he ’stormed’ away from the training ground. This time the paper says it ‘understands’ that the events occurred which loosely translates as ‘we read it in a rival paper and despite the comments made by the manager, we’re going to run with it because we don’t want to miss out on this one even though we could end up with egg on our faces come one minute past midnight on Saturday morning‘.
’til Tomorrow.























anyone got link to highlights of goals from last night??
By: ok on August 30, 2007
at 7:25 am
It was good to see Eduardo get his first goal. I thought Big Phil had a good game, he one the majority of tackles and especially headers against that giant bastard. However he makes one slip up and the bloke behind me was “I told you we should have got rid of him” Arrrggghhh it drives me insane. Still a good if not sparkling performance from the boys.
I have been saying all along Diaby and Cesc could be the best midfield pairing in the world for the next ten years if we can keep them and keep them fit!
By: drew10 on August 30, 2007
at 7:25 am
Good start, tedious middle, good end.
The tie was effectively ended with the early goal & we lost our urgency.
The big plus was Eduardo, who really looks a very polished footballer. He is a big find.
Diaby was a disappointment. He started well but faded badly, which you might expect from his 1st game of the season. He can beat a man in no space but still struggles for that final ball. What worries me is his lack of concentration, which at the moment would make him an unsuitable replacement for Gilberto. You could only play him with Cesc in a 5 man midfield.
He still has plenty of time though & is certain to be a big player for us in the future.
By: Flint McCullough on August 30, 2007
at 7:36 am
ok, you can head over to arsenalist.com.
By: sarah on August 30, 2007
at 7:39 am
Diaby didn’t make the most of his chance to impress but the game will have done him some good. He just lacked that little extra sharpness than comes with a few games under your belt. Through much of the game the midfield didn’t get the most out of Eduardo who brightened considerably with Cesc and Denilson on the pitch. It was good for him to get a full 90 minutes too. He will benefit greatly from playing with players like Cesc and Hleb looking to feed him.
By: Amos on August 30, 2007
at 7:48 am
Diaby has plenty of potential, but is clearly not the finished article, and seemed to lack match sharpness and concentration at times.
Some of his passing was sloppy, giving the ball away a number of times and he was in danger of being caught in possession on more than one occasion too.
He also seems to like to dribble with the ball in areas that he doesn’t need to, i.e. near our own penalty area…that should be saved for much further upfield, where a loss of possession is likely to be less costly.
Diaby also needs to make better judgements about when to stay on his feet and jockey an opposition player, and when to try & win the ball back by making a legitimate tackle.
I haven’t seen the full range of his passing, nor his vision, so don’t know yet whether he is capable of playing those killer, defence splitting passes that Cesc seems able to produce at will.
I have big hopes for Diaby and really hope he makes the necessary improvements over time.
By: Magneto on August 30, 2007
at 8:09 am
Afraid I have to disagree about Diaby. He makes strong runs, tackles solidly etc. but his passing is awful. Obviously we shouldn’t judge him too harshly on one performance but it’s not the first time his final ball has looked fairly ordinary. Agree with the dude above who said the only position he can play in at the moment is in a five man midfield with cesc and gilberto as he can’t really perform either of their roles.
Also I thought Adebayor looked very decent when he came on. As talented as he is, Van Persie can anonymous at times and him and eduardo don’t look to be much of a partnership. Eduardo looked a lot livelier when Ade came on.
By: Pascal cygan on August 30, 2007
at 8:18 am
Big phill will only get better. large, slow defenders (like goalkeepers) improve with age and are almost unbeatable at their peak.He (phil)is important to the us cause he is the only defender of his type in the club.
) before fab4 came in we were ineffective through the middle.Personally, i dont think RVP–Eduardo will work both will like a target man to feed off. ED9 attempt to latch unto Adebayors header is a case in point. Adebayor may have a “poor first touch”,lack “finishing”,but he will give others chances they wouldn’t get otherwise.He also holds up play to get midfielders into the game and is hard to disposess. i think he is ahead of bendtner because he creates chances for others, and bendtner’s goal average in the championship is no better than Adebayor’s, BUT i believe bendtner has more leeway for improvemnt.
Funny how all 3 goals came from the wings isn’t it ?.We moved the ball to the wings quite a bit more than normal and had more long range shots and crosses.To be frank,(not fat frank
Denilson,where do we play this kid? bar fabregas and toure i dont of another player in the arsenal shirt with as much ability to hold on to the ball AND distribute with such vision.Hleb and rosciky come close but they lack either one or the other or are simply not consistent.I feel alot calmer (defense wise) when both play but i also know the two playing in the middle wont work. Sigh, i guess they will be most effective away from home in cagey games against top opponents like Man-utd and Chelsea or in europe in a 4-5-1 formation. i really rate him, uncompromising player,hard to disposes,tracks back,good vision (not yet up to fabregas though).oh well,the futures bright and its red and white.
By: radioactive_gooner on August 30, 2007
at 8:20 am
Diaby was playing his first game back after missing much of pre-season. The commentators were right, as at times he tried too hard rather than giving the simple ball. Let’s be be sure to respect that lack of pre-season mind and at early on he displayed some indications of a powerful box to box midfielder.
Overall, I felt we played well. The fact we did not pour forward in constant waves of attacks was more to do with the state of the game and not any inefficiency in our play. Our passing can be crisper in the final third and maybe as Wenger said we could have looked a little more to create chances for our forwards, but as Yogi has said….why?
My main point would be that I am pleased with this start, we look determined and consider the players not in the starting line up last night and we still looked to have a good balance.
There have been many determined ranters requesting players be signed all over the place….they are in fairness steadily revising their loud opinions from needing 4 or 5 bodies to 1 or 2 new faces.
Pat,
You keep saying we need a striker. Look at last night, the Ade haters can say what they want, but the lad came on and displayed good skill, good combinations, strength in the air, speed and let’s not mention his undoubted willingness to work.
Eduardo looks a talent and for me just shaded Theo for man of the match. One chance, goal. His work was excellent, yes he beat a tired right back for Fab’s strike, but to open his body in mid-air in the ninetieth minute said plenty about his athleticsm. In time, the team and the creative players can form a bond and understanding with this predator and it will be very dangerous for opposition defences.
So not mentioning the other forwards, because it is old ground, these guys deserve a chance. Questioning Wenger in the transfer market can only be the work of the foolish.
By: danny on August 30, 2007
at 8:32 am
RvP demonstrated that there is so much more to his game than just scoring goals in his performance last night. Passing, movement, crossing, supporting the full-backs, running off the ball, control, bringing others into the game. Shots on goal. Sublime. He is growing into a fantastic player.
By: Frank on August 30, 2007
at 8:49 am
Walcott is fast but I would like to see him holding on to the ball more and getting his crosses a bit more accurate…but otherwise the operation and rest seems to have done him good.
I want to see Rosicky score couple of goals from outside the box like he did in the World Cup…I think he is the only one who is capable of doing it in the current Arsenal side…but Eduardo is the second best signing this yr after Sagna, no doubt abt that.
By: freekicker on August 30, 2007
at 9:00 am
Also nice to see we are not conceeding much for a change.Hell, if not for the lehman’s blunder we would be 9 points with a game in hand.Goodgrief…if not for his blunders we wouldn’t have conceeded this season,both league and UCL.
By: radioactive_gooner on August 30, 2007
at 9:16 am
Eduardo has just started with his first goal and he is going to score more especially in partnership with Adebayor , Cesc or Denilson. Good work from Rosicky and we expect more goals from him. I see Fabregas winning their trio bet before the start of the season i.e. 1.Fabregas 2. Rosicky and 3. Hleb.
LETS LOOK FORWARD TO THE PORTSMOUTH GAME AT EMIRATES.
ARSENAL 3 PORTSMOUTH 0(1)
By: ArsenalKenya on August 30, 2007
at 9:24 am
Frank I think RVP didnt have a good game and was not much of a partner with Eduardo, Ade came on and combined much better with Eduardo and Cesc, we still need to find the right forward partnership for RVP. Walcott faeded in second half and Bentdner should have been given a chance
By: solgooner on August 30, 2007
at 9:38 am
I agree that Senderos had a good game,as he did at Blackburn,i think hes going to be a big player 4 us but i was disappointed with the people around me who started complaining about him after he slipped…was very annoying
By: Jel on August 30, 2007
at 9:42 am
its clear that sagna and eds have both been very good signings. we just have to keep them fit.
thought denilson did very well as right winger . far far better than diaby can play on the wing.
diaby did well in the middle for an hour then looked tired. his range of passing will only improve if he plays, training is not the same.
almunia looked solid again and got a song!
between cesc and ade they put 100% more energy into a game that was dying out.
for me EDS was the star. I loved the way he took his goal – that ‘Just get it in the net’ attitude is what the team lacks and he scored that from left wing.
By: gazzap on August 30, 2007
at 9:44 am
I don’t know what to say Solgooner. We obviously see football through very different eyes. What did you think of his passes? What did you think of his crosses and freekicks into the box? What did you think of his movement on and off the ball? What did you think of his ability to jockey their wingers? What did you think of the fact that he did not stop running? What did you think of his clearances for defensive corners? What did you think of his timing? What did you think of his ability to reach the far-post? Did you see the raking diagonal pass through defenders to the right wing? Perfect weight..a real artist and playing superbly in a team context nowadays.
By: Frank on August 30, 2007
at 9:46 am
I think you are a bit over the top. his freekicks were very good, his paasing was OK not spectacular, how many defensive clearances did he make? What I am saying is he didnt seem to cobine well with Eduardo, and we do need a good combination up front. Lets seee RVP score a couple of gpals and blend with ADE against Portsmouth, and Eduardo play off them on the left.
By: solgooner on August 30, 2007
at 10:59 am
I think you might be onto something there Sol
We do need a LW and we aint going to buy one and he did look good out wide, I guess he could actually be more like a replacement for Reyes (Not that he is a replacement for Henry or Aliadiere)
By: Patthegooner on August 30, 2007
at 11:04 am
AW pointed out last night how well EDS did on the left, and its something thats a posibility No onercan replace Henry but so far in Barcelona appearances he has not set the world alight, if he starts this weekend we can see what we msiied, I personally think hes not going to be like he was 2 or 3 years ago.
By: solgooner on August 30, 2007
at 11:08 am
Champions League
Bloody hell the competition looks tough this year, there does not look like many bankers, but looking at it
Dream Draw
Arsenal
AEK Athens
Steaua Bucharest
Rosenborg
Nightmare Draw
Arsenal
Valencia
Lazio
Dynamo Kiev (We dont travel well out there)
By: Patthegooner on August 30, 2007
at 11:11 am
Solgooner, totally disagree on the passing. As I said we obviously watch football through very different eyes.
On the partnership front…i think there will be different combinations between the four strikers depending upon the game, opposition, circumstances. Obviously those combinations will improve as the season goes on, but it will be as much about combinations with mid-field, overlapping full-backs etc, etc as with each other. So much of our game is about precision that it will take us time to get into a rhythm. I am pleased with all of our forwards but the one that gives me most concern is Adebayor (but only a minor one). He has strength and speed and occasionally skill, but his first touch and movement is erratic. Hopefully he can remedy that as the season moves on.
As for left winger…I could not agree less, we vary our play, sometimes down the wing, sometimes cutting inside, sometimes down the middle…and we have the players to do all three. I don’t think we need a specialist winger or dedicated wing position.
By: Frank on August 30, 2007
at 11:20 am
I think the draw will determine how far we go ine CL, A really hard grouping could hurt us but we could still finish second in the group
By: solgooner on August 30, 2007
at 11:34 am
http://arseblog.com/columns/2007/08/30/is-david-dein-having-a-press-conference-this-afternoon/
By: DeiseGooner on August 30, 2007
at 12:08 pm
Have a read of that little snippit – Dein to sell shares ?
By: DeiseGooner on August 30, 2007
at 12:09 pm
I think there is another Hoax being started over on Arseblog,
I think it is a Hoax as I can find no other Reference and he does not mention his sources.
Basically he has heard some rumours that David Dein has called a Press Conference this afternoon and whilst they do not know the reason, Boris Berezovsky is also mentioned to be part of it.
I will hold off any comment until it is either proved a hoax (as I expect) or it happens. To be honest if true I am sure Sky Sports and the BBC would be all over it.
By: Patthegooner on August 30, 2007
at 12:12 pm
The funny part was that DD was looking to buy Orange.
By: Frank on August 30, 2007
at 12:45 pm
I know what Solgooner means about RVP. he is an excellent player but who is his best partner. I happen to think in time the answer to that question is Bendtner but he is too young and inexperienced this season to really get many games. Ade makes things happen with energy and I think he does have a good touch and skill for a big man, but his decision making is actually not good at all. I am not sure that is ever something that will improve. maybe it will, he is 22 I think so he has time, but I like ade. as I say he makes things happen for us but he is a blunt instrument and wont score more than about 10 in a season.
The perfect answer is EDS on the left with Ade and RVP up front. EDS will score goals from the left. then where do you put Hleb or Rosicky? I think Hleb on the right is totally pointless, unless he is on fire (which he happens to be right now), and Cesc and Gilberto have the middle sewn up.
But for certain in the premiership you cannot play 4 slight midfielders plus RVP and EDS up front, we’d get outmuscled in too many games especially away from home, thats where Ade comes into his own.
By: gazzap on August 30, 2007
at 1:25 pm
I think we will see different combinations up front depending on circumstances. I suspect that several different combinatons will work in time, and now we have the luxury of changing the formation to suit each game. Injuries willing of course. I think the team is gradually building form so we will need to see several more games before the best comes out. For me though all the ingredients are there, it just needs shaping through match fitness and playing together in real games.
Great to see the goals beginning to come from midfield.
By: Frank on August 30, 2007
at 1:40 pm
by the way, no-one has mentioned that dinamo zagreb lost yesterday and so Modric may now be on the move before the window shuts. wenger has 33 hours.
By: gazzap on August 30, 2007
at 1:41 pm
gazzap,
no point mentioning, even less likely to happen than that press conference today!!!!
By: dan on August 30, 2007
at 2:27 pm
Gazzap I think Sunday we should try the EDS RVP Ade combination , and bring Bentdner off the bench after 60 minutes, especially if we are winning, the problem is with most players fit theres no room on the bench for walcott , flamini, Denilson, just Hoyte, Bentdner, Diably, Rosicky or Hleb, I prfer Rosicky to come off the bench as Hlab and Rosicky dont jell. If Ebuoe is fit theres no room for him either, so what would we do with Modic?
By: solgooner on August 30, 2007
at 2:48 pm
radioactive_gooner
I’ll disagree with you on Ade and Bendtner please.
Did we buy Ade to score for us or hold the ball? He needs to take his chances and score for us not holding ball; this is the job of our midfielders and we have chunk of them. Talking about Bendtner, he’s not been given a chance so you can’t say Ade is better, right? Ade had the whole season and managed only 12 goals in all competetions, missing tons of chances in every game he played. So that comparism with Bendtner’s in the championship is weak. Besides, we’re paying Ade more than Bendner so he should be seen to be scoring goals but I’m not seeing it and doubt if he can be successful goal-scoring-wise with us. Doubt if he can make even 12 premiership goals a season. Let’s try Bendtner too. We just need goals from our strikers if we want to succeed this season.
By: Howard on August 30, 2007
at 2:49 pm
WELL WE WERE ALL WRONG DD HAS SOLD HIS SHARES TO ALESHIR USMANOV TO FORM A NEW COMPANY CALLED RED AND WHITE HOLDINGS WHICH WILL HELP TO IMROVE AFC FIANCES, BUT ITS NOW A TAKEOVER BATTLE WITH DD LEADING IT, USMANOV IS NOT LIKE ABRAMOVITCH HES WORTH 2 BILLION, BUT UNITED WITH KROENKE THEY ARE A FORMIDABLE FORCE
By: solgooner on August 30, 2007
at 3:57 pm
Well Well
What do you think guys?
I am sort of pleased that if it is going to happen I would rather it be Dein led rather than purely Foreign, hopefully that will keep the values within the Club.
A quick Google Search shows that he is worth 2.6 Billion, not sure about the Moshiri fella.
I am sort of not pleased though that as a club we are turning a corner after a sumer of discontent and rumours and this just re-lights the fire.
I guess it will now confirm Wenger’s Signature.
I think this will be it until next Summer though, and then Chaos
By: Patthegooner on August 30, 2007
at 4:27 pm
Dein said: “Thursday’s announcement marks a significant step towards realising the vision I share with thousands of fans at home and abroad of making Arsenal the world’s number one football club.
“I have not lost my passion for the club; indeed, it is greater than ever. My ambition remains to play an active role in Arsenal again. My immediate intention is to work with others to provide the financial resources necessary to turn the vision of Arsenal as the world’s number one club into reality
I WANTED DD BACK AND IT LOOKS PROMISING
By: solgooner on August 30, 2007
at 4:49 pm
ARSENAL
Sevilla / AEK Athens
Steaua Bucherest
Slavia Prague
I am well happy with that
By: Patthegooner on August 30, 2007
at 4:58 pm
This is a group thing DD says he welcomes Kroenke, but if they pool resources, and DD is running it they wil have ample capital to make AFC great
By: solgooner on August 30, 2007
at 4:59 pm
Okay, I am sure everyone will have there own opinions on the draw but it could have been much worse indeed. I am sure we all agree that it is Sevilla that’ll be through and they are without doubt the toughest part of the draw. On the plus side they are a free flowing attacking team which may play in to our strengths and thus I sit here quite optimistic about qualification for the 2nd round… so my friends your thoughts please?
By: Toronto Gunner on August 30, 2007
at 5:00 pm
where’s the Dein commentary coming from?
By: Toronto Gunner on August 30, 2007
at 5:01 pm
dein may have sold his shares but he is still very much pulling the strings of the potential take over that looms over the club. I dont think we need foreign ownership as he states. Arsenal dont need anybody. we have money but just wont spend it.
I like the draw. should be some good football played. seville and bucarest will just play open attacking football and I guess prague will do as well. they are all highly technical sides and we have no trips to ukraine or russia. very happy with that.
By: gazzap on August 30, 2007
at 5:13 pm
great draw, as for DD the ironic thing is that he and wenger are singing from different sheets, wenger is not interested in lots of money, he wants develop what he has and thinks all these huge amounts are the anti pure football he loves. , he doesn’t spend the money he has let alone if he was thrown another 50m.
By: dan on August 30, 2007
at 5:22 pm
AW has said hes not interested in lots of money BUT if he had all the resources, I am sure we could have got several super players, and with DD as chairman working with hi they could achieve number one status. It will be intresting to see PHW comments as this is DD first words since he left the board
By: solgooner on August 30, 2007
at 5:31 pm
Gaz, it may be that you are right about the money but we’ll not really know for sure.
What I do agree with is that the foreign investment angle is little more than a short term “wow” factor designed to suck people in to the hype and not the reality. Let’s face it these guys aren’t in it for the love of the club or the tradition that exists, they want increased value through brand marketing and increased merchandising. The bottom line is that they want a return and that return is not attractive football but hard cash. To many people out there that follow the club, any investment will be seen as heaven sent and they won’t care about the future if it means we spend 100 million this season. Hell if that doesn’t work we can spend a 100 million more the next right? after all, apparently money is as easily available as walking to the end of the garden and picketing the flapping notes from the tree.
I was always a supporter of Dein but I have to say that my trust of the man has slowly begun to shift as it becomes more obvious (at least to me) that his comments are less to do with Arsenal and more to do with Dein the man. It is time to put ego’s aside and realise and praise the work of those members of the board that have been stead fast in their support and money at the club for years. I haven’t heard a word of mismanagement or dissension other than Dein demanding that foreign investment is the future. In time he may be proved right, then again it may be in 5 years we are all celebrating the fact that the board fought hard to retain a sense of identity where so many did others did not. We are privileged to be able to watch the type of football that engenders Arsenal, we all want growth and acclaim with wins and trophies but we also want a sound club.
Just my view from a desk here in Toronto.
By: Toronto Gunner on August 30, 2007
at 5:33 pm
sol,
he has money now to spend and he is not spending it.
By: dan on August 30, 2007
at 5:41 pm
Well, I can now see why the board couldn’t live with DD. Clearly he’s not one to take “no” for an answer or go along with other people’s views when he’s in the minority.
Can’t see this having any effect other than leading to a period of serious uncertainty.
It’s one thing to have a friendly takeover, maybe that would have been good. But quite another to try to force people who’ve already shown they’re not willing.
Sometimes DD when you love something, you gotta let it go.
Shame all this comes up now.
By: Torchwolf on August 30, 2007
at 6:20 pm
Some of the posters above are correct in pointing out that when it comes to transfer spending, Arsene is singing a different tune than that being hummed by David Dein.
Arsene has transfer funds available right now; indeed, he has even made a profit from his dealings this summer without even touching any of the monies made available by the board.
But Arsene refuses to spend money for the sake of it, particularly on players who are overpriced, don’t represent value for money and aren’t any better than any of the existing players at the club.
David Dein, however, seems to believe that by giving Arsene a blank cheque, Arsene will go out and buy the world’s best players.
This is inexplicable, as Dein, of all people, should know Arsene’s philosophy when it comes to transfers, and how Arsene works.
I just can’t see Dein, in the event of him leading a successful takeover at Arsenal, forcing Arsene to buy players at prices that Arsene simply doesn’t believe represents value for money, even if he has a blank cheque to literally buy who he wants.
Arsene simply doesn’t work that way.
This suggests that if Dein does return one day, and Arsene is still in post, there will be a conflict over this very issue at some point down the line.
By: Magneto on August 30, 2007
at 6:27 pm
sparta is a strong team but they have to buy some good defenders
By: smsfreaks on August 30, 2007
at 6:30 pm
This company that Dein has sold his shares to is a Russian one. So now there’ll be two Russian-run clubs in the PL.
By: marcus on August 30, 2007
at 7:13 pm
i suppose now kroenke will sell to the russians as they are aren’t both going to try and buy us and share us. all very ugly really.
By: dan on August 30, 2007
at 7:51 pm
if DD takes over I am sure he would work with Wenger as before, Be realistic Fitzman will sell next year this deal values his shares at around 130 million. Stop being parnoid about DD
By: solgooner on August 30, 2007
at 8:21 pm
I would think kranky is a bit miffed about the whole situation. DD encouraged him in on a promise that he could pick up the club and now he has serious competition from DD’s new mob. DD seems to have moved on from kranky.
But as other people say DD and wenger are poles apart in their philosophy so I can only assume that when they go for dinner they discuss the wine and culture and not football!
I can see why the board sacked DD. He is very pro foreign takeover while the rest of them are happy to see the club stay as it is. clearly they could find no middle ground. I am with the board 100%, but if and when the board want to sell then there seem to be buyers there for the club.
I hava always said wait til about 2012 and then see where Liverpool and Man U are. If anyone has read the Gooner this month you can see that Man U have a serious chance of doing a Leeds united and that is not an exaggeration. They are sailing close to the wire. I am surprised at their level of spending this summer. all is well and good if they are winning titles but they have to do that every year, and as we all know, football is not like that.
By: gazzap on August 30, 2007
at 8:30 pm
Gazzap
DD may not succeed ‘cos the hatred he’s generated with the current Board is so much so that even if they want to sell their controlling shares of 52% (comprising theirs and others who lean to them) it won’t be to anybody with DD behind, right? Mark my words. I heard Edelman, MD of Arsenal speak on Sky at the CL draw and he said it doesn’t change anything. If the Board are not prepared to sell, forget it nobody can force them. I also see that with Arsenal generating so much money now, they won’t. It’s not going to happen unless Fizsman decide to sell and he hates DD so much.
By: Howard on August 30, 2007
at 8:42 pm
I dont see any reason why money men like fizsman cant start to take reasonable dividends in the future. do they really need to sell at all? do they need money? prob not.
By: gazzap on August 30, 2007
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you are talking about huge amounts of money fizman is no abramovich 130m is a boat load of money.
By: dan on August 30, 2007
at 9:03 pm
Also, who is to say that Red and White and Kroenke dont join forces to get the initial 30%.
I think what is definate now is when it happens and for how long will it will be a shadow hanging over the club.
We certainly are not in possession of all the facts, if the ruskies do come in. My questions are
1) Will they also pay off the Stadium debt
2) How much free cash they have, I know he is worth 2b but that is not all accessible
I am happier with this route rather than the unknown Bernie and Krankie ones, I guess it is wait and see, at least it is giving the blog something else to speak about for a few hours
By: Patthegooner on August 30, 2007
at 9:29 pm
The board have 45% hedge funds have 8%, and the rest is small shareholders. DD made all the money for Fitzman, and he worked with Arsene to have Beveren as afeeder club that produced Toure, and Ebuoe, he also worked on all the tranfers that were bargains. RVP etc. A dividend of 8 millionfor Fitzman is not feasible Gazzap, he will sell his shares once he has non resident status. If the Platini rules comes in in October then we have to finish third and then we will need .to strengthen the squad. DD and AW are the ones to lead us. The current board are clueless. Edelman is a bean counter. PHW is a snob. DD said he would work with Kroenke.
By: solgooner on August 30, 2007
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Kroenke and DD can work together but not join forces as that would trigger an automatic takeover bid. Deins group can buy up 13% on the market and from hedge funds and then with Kroenke have 42% and be in a very powerful position, theres no way the board can avoid meeting with DD. The satdium debt is being paid off over 25 years and is not an issue, especially as it will be reduced by 80 mllion when the development is finished. A joint consortium would have enough finance for a real transfer reserve fund if needed.
By: solgooner on August 30, 2007
at 9:35 pm
who da f*** does the ratings for the dream team? surely da silva gets more then a 6 for last nights game?
By: duke goonem on August 30, 2007
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and the jury is still out on diaby!!!!!
By: duke goonem on August 30, 2007
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Solgooner
You don’t know what you’re talking about. Share disposal is not by force, you need a buyer and a seller. Nobody can force a shareholder to sell and Fizsman has said it plainly that he’s not selling his shares in the forseable future. Besides if Fizsman wants to sell he won’t sell to DD or his affiliates he hates him. I don’t understand DD, all this is destabilising enough for the Arsenal, just ‘cos he wants to be Chairman he’s doing everything fair foul and damn the Arsenal. Why? After all the summer hulabaloo, things have are now cool and then this, does he love Arsenal? Well, they can get all the other shares and if the Board and friends are still not selling they can’t take over the club. You talk about money, has Arsene told you that he’s wanted money and he’s been denied? The man himself said money is no problem but that he’s not buying anyone. The Board has built the most efficiently run club in the country by ensuring that Arsenal don’t need a billionaire to survive. Check Chelsea in four years time and see if they can continue as they make huge losses every year. They spend 75% of their income on wages alone. Look Terry 130K, Shevchenko 120k, Ballack120k, Drogba 90k, Essien 90, Lampard 100k, Cashley 85k, Cole 80 k and on and on, can they continue, its crazy. At Arsenal, apart from Gallas on 80, nobody is taking more than 40 now. Having loaded off TH14 and Freddie, we are free from the higher wages bracket, that’s efficient we manage ouir resources. This Board is the best we can have. MANU and Liverpool will all be in heavy debt if they don’t win the title in two years succession.
By: Howard on August 31, 2007
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