Well, that is Jens Lehmann’s post football career sorted out, a Teutonic Norman Wisdom impersonator. God alone knows what was going through his mind as he miscontrolled the ball; I am too polite to tell you what was going through mine.
It seemed to be an afternoon heading in the same direction as so many others; game plan out of the window following on from a sloppy goal being conceded with chances spurned. Had not a winner been found, there would no doubt have been a deluge of comments that post-Henry Arsenal were simply not good enough, no chance of any European football, let alone a top four berth. As it is, three points is two more than were garnered from the opening game last season and with a Premiership free week for the Club, that is the most important thing. This season we will be chasing the pack having played one less game but it is only going to be a maximum of three points behind, unlike last season where the deficit was five upon the return from Zagreb.
The team looked rusty, rustier than they did in Amsterdam in fact. Little things were out of kilter still; occasional passes going astray in the opening forty five minutes. Fulham deserve credit for their performance. They had a game plan and helped by the opening goal, stuck to it. It was not pretty but they were never going to come to The Emirates and play open, attacking football, knowing that if they did, the likelihood would be a drubbing. Instead they played a higher than normal defensive line and compressed the Arsenal midfield and attack into a tight area. The way to beat it was shown often enough, a ball over the top giving a ‘runner’ the chance to sprint in on goal. Only then did the usual opposing Goalkeeping performance come into play. Warner was nothing short of superb yesterday. And when he was beaten, or likely to be, the feet, head and other areas of the Fulham defenders bodies got in the way.
The problem with such a policy is that you spend a lot of the afternoon chasing the ball and conceding possession. Even when your opponents are clearly below par, players such as Fabregas will eventually get passes right, which he did to great effect for the winner. Hleb again played well in the advanced midfield role, hopefully a sign of improved confidence in the player is that he took the shot on rather than laying the ball off to Bendtner, as I suspect he would have done last season.
There were a few positive performances, the defenders did reasonably well, although caught out of position on occasion, but it is hard to judge when meaningful opposition raids are few and far between. The next two games, both away, will give a better standard by which to judge them. In midfield, Rosicky improved as the game went on, being unfairly criticised for his failure to take chances. Yes, he did not score but only one of the chances went woefully wide, the others were saved or deflected to safety. Eboue on the right, in tandem with Sagna, gave an indication of being a more solid proposition defensively than Hleb but Walcott was more penetrative, possibly due to the tiredness of the opposition at that stage of the game.
Up front, RvP played well, perhaps should have scored before the penalty but indications are that he will at least be on track to improve on last season’s goals tally. Bendtner offered the alternative when needed, still young, predictably nervy with his touch on his debut in the Premiership, eager to retrieve the situation. The potential is there and no doubt he will settle down once he scores.
And what of Sanchez’s claims of ’simulation’. The way he spoke of it made it sound so grubby, as if players were running round in dirty, old macs. And he had no clue as to what he was talking about. Sean Davis was apparently blatantly tripped as he was about to the pull the trigger, in much the same way Hleb was hacked when he was to do likewise. But in The Crazy World Of Lawrie, one was clearly a penalty, the other was a significant item of evidence of those cheating ‘big boys’. That both should have been given is neither here nor there; they weren’t and Sanchez will need to think of some answers to give at Soho Square when he explains why five of his team got yellow cards. It took Arsene at least a season to become the butt of myopia jokes. Sanchez has achieved that in one Press Conference, as well as the tag of ‘fool’. Each club has monitors to see incidents on replays, the savvy managers look at them before opening their mouths. Lawrie has a way to go.
The most ridiculous of the lot was in the melee after the penalty. Bocanegra started it all with a cynical block, failing to ensure he was outside of the area when he made contact with Toure. What followed afterwards was a pointless exercise. Yes, Arsenal wanted to get on with the game but the Clock had stopped, restarting only on kick-off. The bookings for Warner, Diop and Flamini being cheap, no reason for the melee to have ensued.
Three points is three points. It does not mask the deficiencies of the performance but with two matches in four days, by next Sunday’s visit to Ewood Park, the rustiness should have been eradicated.























Hrlb a penalty replays show beyond doubt. Davis no penalty replays show beyond doubt Ref got it right. Time wasting book em no other course of action. if this is allowed to carry on it will ruin the game. Dont mind if they take the ball in the corner keep control but blatant time wasting book em. Finally I love this Arsenal you boys were great in my book never gave up. Will have to watch it because i may not be around much longer if they keep waiting till the final moment to win. Go you mighty gunners.
ps Lawrie are you a cousin of Maureen?
By: Old Timer on August 13, 2007
at 7:53 am
Very nice post as always. Thanks for the daily quality on the blog, YW.
By: Non Edible Nacho on August 13, 2007
at 7:54 am
I’m happy overall that a game which we may have lost last year or dropped two points in, we came out tops. We need a run of four or so games with wins and you will see the doubts go away. We will begin to play more freely and with less pressure. I think Bendtner can be massive for us. He really bothers defenders and he always seems to get a decent shot away even if the initial touch is not the best. And he is aggressive. In fact, Gallas singled him out in an interview as being a trump card for us. I agree with him.
By: LB on August 13, 2007
at 7:55 am
I always enjoy reading your posts mate. One of the few around that is actually written by a supporter of the club.
By: stormid on August 13, 2007
at 8:10 am
Good review except that as the first post points out there was no contact between Davis and Cesc so therefore no penalty whereas Hleb had two good claims denied in the first half. I think the ‘rustiness’ was an edginess or nervousness brought about by the early goal. The players had promised themselves that this season would be different and here they were playing catch up within seconds of the season starting. In the end it was different as Hleb became our joint top scorer. On the evidence of his performance that statement doesn’t sound as incongruous as it might have done before. Fulham are a poor side but this victory probably has more value for the games in front of us than the 3 or 4-0 romp that it might have been.
By: Amos on August 13, 2007
at 8:22 am
I was at the game too and your post pretty much concurs with my view of things. The team were definitely rusty and we missed Ade. I thought his presence from the start would have made a big difference. I was glad to see Nicklas Bendtner add some of that mix up front when he came on.
By: Passenal on August 13, 2007
at 8:24 am
My biggest fear this season is for Jens to play just 1 more game in an Arsenal shirt. It is not unfair to claim that he has already, singlehandedly cost us a Champions League trophy. The man is at best, psychologicaly unbalanced, maybe disturbed. He will cost us dearly! Every time i watch any other team on the telly, their keeper looks amazing. Why? Because Jens looks so bloody dodgy!!! How can anyone relax in front of him. Every corner we concede is frightening as we wonder who’s throat he’ll grab after nearly standing on his toes. We even had our own defender’s trying to shield him from the opposition last season. Arsene, it’s not one mistake!!!! How can you say that? We need our own defenders defending, not worrying about our keeper! If we change our keeper, we really do have a chance this season.
By: nucks on August 13, 2007
at 8:28 am
Good review.
\\keep up the good work
I too am glad we won a game like this that we may have lost last season or at best drawn.
AW is right that it can only help build up confidence.
By: TeamSpirit on August 13, 2007
at 8:37 am
It is not unfair to say Lehmann put us in that CL final too, then.
And I also thought their penalty shout was nothing. Cesc wasn’t even close to their player (don’t remmeber who it was) when he tripped wis his own leg.
By: Non Edible Nacho on August 13, 2007
at 8:38 am
i think everyone is being a bit unfair on Jens. Yes he made a boo-boo, but Clichy should never have passed the ball back to him from that position, with Healy breathing down his neck. He had the chance to clear the ball to touch and made a bad decision. I think Lehmann was shocked to receive the backpass in that position. Let’s give the guy a break. He has been an absolute legend for us and i am sick and tried of gooners whining about every little mistake our players make. this is the season to get behind the team be positive. these boys have a real chance to do something amazing… come on you gooners!!!
By: andy on August 13, 2007
at 8:44 am
i agree that Jens is mad but for us conceding corners i think the problem is our defence they cant deal with corners count how many corners we had against Fulham and nearly all of them were defenders by their defender where as on our side our keeper has to deal with corners. I think for us to be comfortable we need a new defender not a winger
By: Clay on August 13, 2007
at 8:54 am
I have heard others blame Clichy for his backpass but what he did was absolutely right and as he was instucted to do by his skipper Gallas. There was only one person to blame for this error and that was Lehmann. He had a much simpler ball to Sagna to his right. For the time being he is still our best keeper but this is his last season.
By: Amos on August 13, 2007
at 9:05 am
Could not be happier for Hleb. Skillful player who has kept his head up in spite of seemingly endless hate and vitriol from his own team’s supporters.
And Kolo charging in like the soul of Arsenal. You beauty.
By: hkm on August 13, 2007
at 9:06 am
What is this?
http://www.football365.com/story/0,17033,8652_2658562,00.html
By: Ken on August 13, 2007
at 9:28 am
Been following the site for a while – great to see another well thoughtout view.
Thought Bendtner changed the game a bit…stretching the Fulham defense more than before…and that did the trick.
Very rusty overall…and decline from the Inter game or Amsterdam for sure. Hope the boys get their flow back soon…important game mid-week, where I hope Eduardo can provide some input!
By: Nturtle on August 13, 2007
at 9:29 am
Good post Yogi.
The most heartening thing for me yesterday was the account Hleb, Sagna, and Bendtner gave of themselves.
As for Jens, well, it should never happen again.
Very encouraging also, to see the spirit that kept the team going right to the finish despite the embarrassing and discouraging start to the game.
The defense still doesn’t look settled, and I hope they’re working hard at the job in training. Sagna and Eboue looked a good pairing on the right, Clichy, excellent individually, and Rosicky perhaps have some way to go before we become truly ambidextrous.
It’s early days still; We’ll see.
By: Karthic on August 13, 2007
at 9:48 am
I too am happy to see Hleb getting some plaudits as I think he has been unfairly criticised at times. I thought Rosicky was very good also. Interesting though that Fabregas only really came into the game after Walcott came on for Eboue and Rosicky left the field, freeing up some central space for him. And I agree that Bendtner caused some discomfort after coming on.
As for Jens, while he is no doubt past his best he has given good service and it is unfair to say he cost the Champions League. His performances were important getting us there. I think it will be his last season, although I think Seaman stayed on well past his used by date.
By: Adam on August 13, 2007
at 10:08 am
Matt?? You here today?? Care to comment on Hleb again?
By: Farrukh on August 13, 2007
at 10:12 am
Come on it was a freak goal and we all know the old stager is a better keeper than that.
Hleb has started well as he tends too, but a bigger test for him is how he performs at Ewood next week. Was there last season and he started brightly before dramatically fading and eventually becoming more of a hinderance.
Was so pleased he showed no inclination to pass, he had an impressive run out but must still expect to play on the flanks in the interests of team shape. Great players can adapt to playing wide while still effecting games, this is his task and he can only manage it with a high level of desire. When out wide, he will have to show the drive to still make runs into the box, he is talented but when it is not going his way his head can drop.
Hopefully, being in the middle of our celebratory scrum will do his confidence some good. Hleb’s dribbling skills mean if he can make it into the box, when play is stretched defenders ( especially tired ones ) are going to have all sorts of problems dealing with him. He’s been on these shores a couple of years now, it’s hunger and drive that make players here and he should be now coming to terms with this.
By: danny on August 13, 2007
at 10:34 am
Hear, hear! It is indeed a very good read. Hard to emulate. Thanks YW.
I have hoped that Lehmann’s last season with us would be a memorable one – I mean winning the Premiership or the ECL or both, but not like last match. For most of the match, I was a nervous wreck. Not cos I did not have faith in our boys, but what I saw was deja vu, groundhog day whatever you wish to call it. Same pattern with last season. We concede the first goal, and then we start chasing. Definitely not our game plan. Our game plan is to score the first goal, and then the opposition will have to chase the game, and bang! we score again. Game over.
I hope with Eduardo, we can be different. More direct. Minimise playing pinball outside opposition’s penalty area. More Bergkamp-ish through balls from Cesc or Hleb to Eduardo will do me fine. The more opponents play like Fulham in compressing the midfield the better for Bergkamp-ish through balls.
We MUST improve our quality of freekicks and corners. Against Fulham, once again like last season, we could not get it pass their first man. Let Eboue take corners. At least you know he can cross the ball.
Chelsea shipping two goals at home and MU dropping two points at home give hope that this year’s title can indeed be won. So, Mr. Lehmann, no more mistakes !!!
By: KLV on August 13, 2007
at 10:38 am
I dread to think what Jens will do against Sparta and Spurs, hes just too temperental and the other teams now know it.
The Gallas Toure combination is stil shaky, and when Douru comes back maybe he will apir with Gallas and Toure will play nidfield.
Real have bought Snyder today and will eventually have Robben so they have spent close to 50 million on the three dutch players, the prices now are ridiculous, we should have bought Malouda when we had the chance.
Whilst Bentdner showed great potential Im afraid Walcott did the reverse he just still thinks his speed can do it all. He needs a make or break season. He should have passed to Bentner at the end whenBentnder was in an open goal position
Rosicky cannot shoot does anyone know his percentageof shots on target.
By: solgooner on August 13, 2007
at 10:38 am
Sol he only had one off target!
By: danny on August 13, 2007
at 10:59 am
as dirty sanchez said, they targeted lehmann because they think he is a weak link. Other teams will also target lehmann especially at set pieces. whether or not lehmann now puts in great performances we simply cannot afford for our keep to put under additional pressure because of his reputation, which I have to say is very much deserved. He must be on his last chance now. If we drop moer points due to keeper errors in the next couple of weeks then I would have Almunia or Fabi in quick as a shot and Lehmann will then have to earn his place once again.
rosicky had 5 chances but I am not going to get on his back about that. I think only 1 of them could have been much better and they other 4 he was under pressure to take the shot quickly by a defender. I can forgive him one poor shot in a game.
anyone else concerned again by the way our squad is picking up lots of pulls and strains in training? eduardo had ankle and now they say knee. Denilson and Diaby both were injured and Ade still has the groin problem picked up in training in Austria. I am starting to think there is something up with the training methods. is it too intense?
By: gazzap on August 13, 2007
at 11:04 am
Did anyone else think eboue spent way too much time in centre of midfield blocking fabregas? I thought the reason he had been moved up there was because of his ability to provide width and direct runs along the line but most of his runs all came back through the centre, strange. Sagna and Clichy both had very convincing games. Glad to hear Billy saying more positives today, we have that something special back apparently. Let’s not get carried away, it was the first match but there was a lot of promise and encouraging signs in the team’s hunger, go on you gooners!
By: TheBigGunn on August 13, 2007
at 11:13 am
I agree Theo is not good..highly overrated cause he is english..but Rosicky was good..he has the skill nd am sure the goals are coming from him..just wait..Malopuda looks good…but we need Martins..he has great flair speed and conversion which we lacked yesterday..Martins would have made those runs and scored atleast a couple..
So this is formation we will play
Dudu..RVP
Hleb
Rosicky..Cesc
Gilberto
Clichy…….Sagna
Toure….Gallas
Lehmann
looks good to me..but we need cover..martins..left winger and solid left back like sagna..MANU lost points..Chealsea and Liverpoor werent that good either..Scums lost the game with all the spending..but i have always rates Newcastle under Sam as challengers..they were the most impressive..
By: adc on August 13, 2007
at 11:14 am
We’re all missing players Gazzup, United and Chelsea have got plenty of injuries. I understand where you are coming from with Lehmann but it would still be harsh to not give him another game to get over the freak goal. At his best he is a nerveless winner, who has played and done well in plenty of big games. The Champions League final criticisms of Jen are again harsh, it was chaotic and he made a slight mistake, either way the defending meant we were about to concede. For me it is Almunia I cannot forgive, his two average pieces of shot stopping prevented us becoming European Champions. A big game keeper would have saved at least one of those. Then we have Fabianski and untill I see him play i cannot really call for him to start.
By: danny on August 13, 2007
at 11:19 am
Wesley Sneijder just went to Real Madrid for 18.3 Million
I know he his predominately a Attacking Midfielder but he is not bad on the Wing. He wouldn’t be an option for us as he is too similar to Hleb and Rosicky, and I dont think we have shown any interest,
But it might mean that should Robben still go to Real then Arsene might see sense and buy Robinho. The reason I like Robinho is that he can play up front too so could solve both issues when Ade goes to the ANC.
By: Patthegooner on August 13, 2007
at 12:19 pm
if wenger is 2 carry on playing 4-5-1 he needs to play fab were hleb is playing and let him be the fulcrum of the team. Rosicky needs to play as the cm that fab was playing so he can be the runner. When you play 4-5-1 you need someone who can make strong quick breaks to join the striker fab cant do that but rosicky can.
By: gooner1 on August 13, 2007
at 12:44 pm
In his new position as a forward hleb will get in the box for passes from midfield and especially Cesc’s passes. Cesc will never get on the end of passes since he is the one making the passes from midfield. you need at least 2 passers and 3 goal-scorers in every team. cesc cannot replace Hleb but Hleb could replace cesc but I would not recommend it unless we got a lot of injuries.
By: gazzap on August 13, 2007
at 12:49 pm
People are making a lot of Hleb playing in a central position as key to his goal yesterday. But he was actually playing on the left when he got that last minute goal. Rosicky had gone off and Bendtner was playing up front with RVP. He could be equally effective out on the left.
Those of you slating Theo, please remember he is 18 and it was his first premiership start. He seemed a little over-eager to make an impact but he’s still in an unfamiliar area on the wing and learning his trade.
P.S. it was great to hear Song get a round of applause for his brief appearance on Sunday!
By: Passenal on August 13, 2007
at 1:35 pm
LOL – I’m here Farrukh!
I did say i would be the first to say well done if Hleb played well – and he did take his goal well…
BUT….
He should of already scored twice previous to that – and still gave the ball away on too many occasions.
But, maybe i am nit picking – he certainly played a lot better than he has in the past, so lets hope he keeps it up.
The main concern for me was that the defence (and by that include the cover from midfield) was still a little at sea – we did not close down players enough.
I think that sometimes we blame our defence for giving away goals – when sometimes it is in fact that our midfield has allowed the opposition the time to play a ball in to our box.
So we need to improve there – lets hope Gilberto comes back soon…
Although Flamini did play well yesterday, he lacks the power needed in the middle.
All in all though – the ability to play below optimum and win is nice – it makes a change to playing well and losing or drawing!
Oh, and did anyone see Anelka’s goal on Sat – how i wish that it was back in red and white…..
By: Matt on August 13, 2007
at 1:46 pm
Yogi, been reading for a year or so, good stuff.
My uneducated take:
Agreed, sloppy play overall;
Sagna was quite good;
Rosicky was aggressive – shots like that will start to go in and he’ll score 10 this season;
Bendter in the air finally gives us some hope on corners;
Jury still out in my mind as the whether or not we need to buy another proven goal scorer.
By: Johnny Ballgame on August 13, 2007
at 3:03 pm
Yesterday just proved what we knew already, Lehman is a liability, Gallas & Toure are not good enough together. We are not strong enough in the centre of midfield, flamini (who for him had a decent game) is not and will never be good enough to be a first team player (where was diaby and Denilson, some people have said they are injured but nothing has been said officially by the club either before or after the game) , walcott is still a deer in headlights and is not ready, eboue is not a right midfielder, helb (and rosicky are playing out of postion) and that we do not have enough forwards. To have to play helb in a 4 5 1, at home for Fulham!!! just shows the lack of strength in the squad. yes they were missing two forwards but injuries let alone the african nations cup going to happen all season long.
on the plus side Helb was very good where he played and again shows how he has been out of position all this time. Bendtner did very well, (shame he won’t start him) and sagna looked very solid and looks to be the new right back.
the best news of the weekend was that spurs looked so poor and we will hopefully be good enough to finish fourth again.
there are solutions are out there, the money is there, shame wenger does not seem to want to do anything about it.
By: dan on August 13, 2007
at 3:20 pm
I have already said – ANELKA!
would surely only be £10M plus!!!
By: Matt on August 13, 2007
at 3:30 pm
anelka would be great, and less than that, he went to bolton for about 8m and is now a few years older. he also wants to leave there. never going to happen unfortunatley or would hae been done already.
By: dan on August 13, 2007
at 3:32 pm
I know – its a real shame, with Anelka back up front with RVP we would be in business….
And Appiah in the middle for a bit of the power we lack…..
I am dreaming i know…..
By: Matt on August 13, 2007
at 3:42 pm
i do not think he is buying anyone. in my opinion he is taking a huge gamble (bordering on complete incompetence), but i am not the manager so what do i know.
By: dan on August 13, 2007
at 3:47 pm
We need to play Bendtner with Hleb on the left, the position he was when he scored the goal. Song? Where was Diaby and Denilson? Why Arsene allowed Song in and let Muamba leave sometimes baffles me? Another mistake? Theo will come good, you just be patient. If Bendtner plays regularly, he can deliver 15 goals this season for us ‘cos Cesc will be there to give him the passes. Tomas just shoot without proper targeting in my opinion, he should have delivered at least a goal yesterday but he wasted all those chances. This year a lot of teams have improved and the players should put profligacy behind them. Players like Ade who’re so wasteful must be up and doing otherwise they’ll be losing their positions in the perking order.
By: Cecilia on August 13, 2007
at 4:18 pm
Bordering on imcompetence!
Dan Dan Dan…this is the best manager in Arsenal history you’re referring too!
The manager that is prepared to put his faith in the youngsters, that he has put untold man-hours into first scouting and then coaching. I can just about accept the premise he could be gambling, although as i have previously stated gambling would be spending a fortune on players that we are no more sure can cut the mustard. Imcompetent would surely not be a fitting way to describe a manager with doubles and invincible season under his belt. Such disrespect is not becoming of a Gooner! Even if you are the type who likes to see a constant stream of cash splashed, you must be able to grasp a man working to a different philosiphy.
By: danny on August 13, 2007
at 4:19 pm
Dan
Agreed about the gamble but given Hlebs position at the weekend, I wonder if this is actually Wenger’s new style of play thus only needing 4 Strikers.
That is the only reason I can see for not signing a winger, and another Striker.
There is still a few weeks left of the Transfer window though and I wonder if he is waiting for all the big boys to spend spend spend, then he can maybe pick up someone at a cheaper price. If he does not buy anyone though then yes it is a Huge Gamble, I am wary to say incompetent and I am sure things are happening behind the Arsenal Firewall, I just hope that the win yesterday does not blinker him cause that was bloody close to the worst possible start.
Again I will say, Surely signing Anelka, Huntelaar or Martins as a Striker and Robinho, Quaresma or Pedersen as the Left Winger will not only improve us but also fit as the last two pieces of the puzzle to moving from 4th placed wannabes into being genuine challengers.
By: Patthegooner on August 13, 2007
at 4:20 pm
he will not start with bendtner for the forseeable future, he has ad so already.
By: dan on August 13, 2007
at 4:21 pm
I will stick up for Rosicky as much as Farrukh sticks up for Hleb..
Tomas is an excellent player – one of our best i believe – and if he can stay clear of injury he will score for us on a regular basis.
To sat his shooting is erratic is a little unfair – he worked the goalkeeper with every shot bar one yesterday.
In fact – he is one of the best strikers of the ball from distance we have.
By: Matt on August 13, 2007
at 4:33 pm
most of us assumed that Eboue with Walcott as back up was good enough to be our right hand side but that rosicky and hleb weren’t good enough to be our left hand side. I think possibly after recent evidence we may have it the wrong way around.
Barring another stupid injury crisis I beleive we have enough strikers.
Over the summer Poom was replaced (fabi), Aliadiere was replaced (Bendtner) Henry was replaced (dudu), Freddie was replaced (by Eboue) but Baptista/Reyes has never been replaced. we are short of an attacking player.
By: gazzap on August 13, 2007
at 4:41 pm
danny,
you should stop discussing doubles and unbeatables. that is over, done with. that is not the arsenal of today. yes wenger deserves time based on past records, but you and others need to draw a line in the sand and say what do we have today and what are we going to do in the future. if we are looking in to the past lets at least look into the recent history and that is two 4th placed finishes in the past two years and having no impact what so ever in the championship race. i ask a very simple question if you have the money to spend and there are a basic needs to be fulfilled and you seem to completely ignore those needs and merrily going on ignoring them isn’t that a problem? you know as well as all of us do that we are short of wingers etc etc. there is not one person that wouldn’t jump for joy for a few signings. his philosophy may workor may not. the last two years have not been encouraging. at what point do you say i think you have been wrong, if we scrape 4th or worse will you then question him, or will you like so many others just blindly say whatever he does must be right. i stand by my opinion that going in to the season, with the current squad he has and most importantly saying we can win the league when he does have cash to spend on improving the squad is very poor management indeed. i hope to be proved wrong.
By: dan on August 13, 2007
at 4:44 pm
It would be crazy to drop Jens after his boo boo, he will now really show what he is about as when he was dropped a while ago and show what a class keeper he is. I just hope his kicking will now be ok because other teams are going to chase him down hard every time a back pass is made to him, will my heart take the pressure? On to the positive things about the game and yes spirit and belief were very evident even though a number were having ordinary games namely Cesc who is not quite to the pace at the moment. Sagna is going to be special and Gael i predict will end up at the end of the season as the best left back in the prem and thats including our old mate now playing in blue. Gallas and Toure again im not convinced is going to work, we will get a better indication at Blackburn. I feel Cesc and Flamini didnt work, Rosicky improved as the match went on Hleb although playing better still needs to sort out his final decision whether to shoot or pass. Eboue is not going to score many goals but hopefully is going to assist a few with his crosses. RVP tried hard but had those huge defenders shunting him from behind all the time. Bendtner is going to give us a big option when things are not going too well as he is very strong both physically and in the air and will be called upon a number of times i feel this season even if it is from the bench. Theo i felt looked a little headless chicken when he came on but he has been injured and im sure he will be fine with some more games. All in all the result was the most important when last year we would have probably lost. Im still optimistic
By: veteran on August 13, 2007
at 4:45 pm
patthegooner, those transfers are simply not going to happen.
By: dan on August 13, 2007
at 4:45 pm
Rosicky is a good player and agreed he can strike a ball well, but like Hleb he has been played out of position.
If we go for this 4411 formation, I think we should be bringing in a Winger and then Hleb and Rosicky should be battling for that advanced midfield role.
What I noticed from Pre-season on Saturday is that there is excellent link up play on the Right with Sagna and Eboue working well and it usually ends up with a cross shot or a driven ball towards Hleb and VP11.
You dont get that on the left and Rosicky tends to drift inwards towards his comfort position, the only time it came from the left was when Hleb drifted out there.
I like both Hleb and Rosicky but room for both in the same line-up….not sure but then say for example we buy Quaresma and he starts on the left, suddenly we have a class option on the bench in Rosicky.
also would like to apologise about Bendtner I still think it is too early for the lad, and following watching the game on the internet I made comment that I did not actually see him do anything, well maybe it was the fact that I was pacing up and down the room whilst praying to any god like figure that came into mind and missed it but seeing the highlights he did indeed add a new option b.
By: Patthegooner on August 13, 2007
at 4:46 pm
Pat,
To say Bendtner didnt do anything is very harsh – he was extremely useful holding the ball up and winning headers to keep the ball in and arounf Fulhams penalty area.
He will certainly offer us something a little different – especially when Ade is away at the ANC.
I still think we need a couple of players – but it is clear that Wenger wont be buying anyone – at least not until Jan.
By: Matt on August 13, 2007
at 5:39 pm
Dan -
You can learn a lot from history.
What it tells you is that you have to build a team & it takes a few years. Look at Man U.
Arsene has his own way. He has done it twice & is well on the way to his 3rd great team.
Now do you want AW to buy the players he wants or any old sod that happens to be available?
He says in his programme notes “my spending…..has not necessarily ended…….there is no desperate need to buy anyone”.
Transfers are often interdependent so for all we know the Robben to Real Madrid business could be affected our activity.
It is a pity you “know better than Wenger” types don’t base your opinions on fact rather than assumptions, quick fixes & writing off players in an instant.
By: Flint McCullough on August 13, 2007
at 5:58 pm
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By: Gooner Chris on August 13, 2007
at 6:03 pm
Well said, Flint
By: Frank on August 13, 2007
at 6:13 pm
I agree Matt – before Bendtner came on I was saying the game was crying out for Ade. His size and his work rate would have given Fulham something else to think about and RVP would not have become so isolated up front. Ade would have created space for RVP with his running even if he doesn’t yet score as many as we would like.
Those calling for another ‘proven’ striker need to remember that we had 2 strikers out injured on Sunday. Wenger is trying to get the rest of the team on the scoresheet so we are less dependent on just 1 or 2 players. A proven striker would expect to play every game and where does that leave our up and coming strikers? Strikers need to play regularly in order to keep sharp. Getting the midfield to contribute more is the key for us as it also keeps the opposition guessing as to where the next goal is coming from.
As for transfers, I’m sure Wenger has his targets but they are either not coming onto the market (Robinho) or overpriced (Quaresma). If there’s any truth in the rumor that we’re interested in MGP, that’s got to be plan ‘B’ because he’s good, but not “super super class” and he’s definitely not worth Flamini, Bendtner and cash. And people wonder why Arsene doesn’t generally buy from within the premiership!
By: Passenal on August 13, 2007
at 6:31 pm
flint,
Firstly, I never said i knew better, just stating my opinion, which was prefaced by “i am not the manager so what do i know”.
secondly to say he is on the way to building the 3rd great team is up for debate as we are currently no where near great and have a team of a few great youngsters and a lot of average players who would never had got any where near our previous two “great teams”.
thirdly, i am aware some transfers are based on others, however at some point surely you just need to go out try and buy the players you want and do what it takes, our rivals all seem to have most of their transfers done in good tme for the new season. if we are still waiting (and again as i have said in the past wenger keeps saying he doesn’t need anyone and does not lie when it comes to his transfers) so i am not sure he is waiting, then why are we waiting, we have a huge game on wednesday night and i would have thought that with no world cups etc he has had plenty of time to get fully prepared and have everyone in place.
By: dan on August 13, 2007
at 6:36 pm
Matt
That was what I was apologising for, in my panicking yesterday afternoon I missed his contribution.
I picked it up when soberness had kicked back in on the highlights, he looked like a handy option B
He still isnt going to score more than 5 goals this year though. Would still like Anelka
By: Patthegooner on August 13, 2007
at 6:38 pm
Watched the game on TV…. here’s my few cents worth of thoughts:
Sagna: I thought he was wonderful. Solid in the defence and did very well as a link between the midfield and attack. Fantastic player who amazingly fitted right into the Arsenal team on his first season.
Fabregas: I thought he was class throughout the game. His penetrative passes are amazing.
Bentner: Finally a physical presence in the attack! He offers something different form the usual type of Arsenal forwards, and he is definitely stronger in the air than Abe.
Hleb & Rosicky: Typical performances from them. Despite what some others may say about them. I think they’re 2 fantastic players. Good in dribbling and quick.
Walcott: I think he is not there yet. Yes, he may be fast, but his crossing isn’t very good and dribbling wise he is not as good as Hleb nor Rosicky. He still need time to grow.
Lehmann: Omg he has been so volatile every game leaves me wondering whether it’s going to be the Jerkyll or Hyde who shows up. Please just let Alumnia be the 1st choice keeper. He is less prone to spectacular mistakes and his recent performances have been pretty impressive.
Basically I think Arsenal was playing in their typical style. A lot of penetrations into the opponents’ have. We always have no problems creating chances. Stupid Lehmann made a horrible mistake in the 1st minute of the game and that really made us throw any sort of game plans out of the window as Fulham became very defensive. But credit to our players they still manage to create chances but were unfortunate to finish them due to the fantastic form of Warner. All in all I’m very optimistic of the season ahead. I think we’re going to give a much better challenge to Manu and Chelski this season
By: gackt13 on August 13, 2007
at 6:52 pm
Dan,
You say we have to look beyond history and you advise me to forget the invincibles and the doubles. I understand the sentiment but in these discussions we have to look at history, for if you choose to replace Wenger, I am pretty certain you will be looking at candidates’ resumes. I’m sure we’ll want to know their acheivements and trophies.
You call me and the rest blind for backing our boss, yet you fail to see or accept that you cannot be first every year. That we do have competitors. That those competitors spend lots of money seems to implore you to believe that we should follow suit. We can all spend £50 million but still only one club can come first.
You ask at what point, we will dismiss this man as a has-been, I can only say it is certainly not this point. I have never been able to say that Wenger spends cash readily so I see not how we can depart his side for not doing so now.
My faith in Wenger has been based on his ability to find players, raw gems that are highly undervalued and turn them into rare beauties. I accept my judgement sits poorly next to his own. When Kolo first wore an Arsenal shirt I am honest enough to say I could not see the potential. I need not mention the rest, but would point to Fabregas, Clichy, Eboue in the current side.
I agree I would have chosen a left winger to come to the club, nothing else I add, but if one does not I am not going to throw the toys out of the pram. Wenger has surpried me in the past, I believe I am intelligent enough not to assume this will not happen again. On first inspection I had no inkling that Pires could really replace Overmars on our left side.
You write-off the greatest manager in the clubs history with such wreckless abandon as to mark yourself down as a fool. I accept you can have an opinion, but you speak dimly of a man that brought the greatest brand of football to these shores. I know you hope to be proved wrong, I believe you to be a Gooner but what about faith? What about seeing what this Eduardo can add? What about giving these young Gooners a chance to form? What about not turning coat and writing off the invincibles and the doubles, the Henrys and the Vieiras? the Fabs and the Van Persies? It’s all about Wenger, all this and how quick you betrayed all that! You belong to the quick buck generations, the Cashleys and Chavs. No loyalty, No class, No flair!
By: danny on August 13, 2007
at 7:01 pm
“is very poor management”
“completely ignore those needs and merrily going on ignoring them isn’t that a problem?”
“bordering on complete incompetence”
Just a few of your sayings today.
Looks to me like you think you know a lot more than the manager.
I will stick with AW in my ignorant bliss thank you.
By: Flint McCullough on August 13, 2007
at 7:15 pm
danny,
i do not expect us to win the league every year. i expect us to compete for the championship. we have not done in the past two years.
also spending reasonable amounts of money is not a bad thing and should not be seen as being a chelsea. good players sometimes cost a lot of money. wenger has spent money in the past so lets not pretend he doesn’t ever spend any. reyes cost 17m (when he was bought) walcott 12m, helb 10m, these are not small amouts of money and the kind of purchases we can expect.
he has found lots of gems, mind you i wouldn’t include eboue in that list, however these gems should be supplemented by some experianced players to help them develop and become less relied upon, as toure, clichy, RVP and Fab all were (and are incidentally our best players). look at the huge responibility on Fab and RVP for 20 and 24 year olds.
i hope eduardo will do the business and time will tell. it is still hard to see where the goals are going to come from.
overall, i am not writing wenger off, just asking questions legitimate questions about the club i love and not blindly following that everything wenger ever does is great and always will be, nothing good comes in life from blind following.
By: dan on August 13, 2007
at 7:17 pm
flint,
again just giving my opinion, after what we saw last year and it’s continuation on sunday, i feel frustrated and disappointed at where we are especially as we have money to improve. if we didn’t have the money i would not complain as he is the best with no cash, but there are players out there, some who we lost the opportunity to buy already that would improve us tremendously and i just can not get my head around why we have started the season with walcott (too young), eboue, (simply not a winger) helb and rosicky (both centre midfielders for their previous clubs and countries of which they are their best players) in our wide positions, please tell me you are satisfied with that? if not then why complain at someone stating the same opinion (in admittedly a more emotional manner).
By: dan on August 13, 2007
at 7:32 pm
Danny- Great stuff.
Dan-
I think you confuse “blind faith” with realistic expectation, which you certainly don’t have.
A complete team has had to be replaced, it was simply not possible for us to directly purchase replacements for the likes of PV4, DB10, Le Bob etc. Perhaps you could put forward some names & values?
We therefore have had to go down the route we have of acquiring hugely talented young players, giving them early
experience, whilst adding some prudent purchases of not particularly well known players.
What you can’t grasp is the achievement of actually staying in the top 4, whilst also getting to the CL Final.
Top 4 for 10 years, top 2 for most of those. Unprecedented in our history. That is why we have faith in the man & get irritated by the ridiculous pundit driven twaddle that some of you come out with.
Just get real & learn from experience.
By: Flint McCullough on August 13, 2007
at 7:43 pm
flint,
i won’t even ask if you are satisfied with that clown in goal, or the fact that gallas is now club captain, or that we now have only three centre backs at the club, or that flamini is currently our third choice centre midfielder. these and other issues i find very disturbing and believe a lot of fans are asking the same questions.
By: dan on August 13, 2007
at 7:47 pm
Thats it Dan, keep calling it blind! I’ve said what it’s based on! Just because you look know further than the latest hype. I am not saying he is perfect without mistakes but that does not mean i can mindlessly forget all he has given us. Blind is you Dan. And in some drunken moment when we have won our next title, i know you will promise to never doubt him again. Of course you wont be believed because your type are always the same. How in 20 years will you explain to the grandkids that you doubted him so!
By: Danny on August 13, 2007
at 7:50 pm
Jens-
made a huge bollox of his 1st touch of the season, full stop. All goalkeepers make a rickett every so often. The 1s that make the fewest are the best. Jens throws very few in over a season, certainly compared to most including Van de Sar.
Many ‘keepers would have lost their nerve after such a spectacular mistake but Jens was pretty efficient for the rest of the game.
Having said that Almunia has been improving to the extent that his time may coming before too long.
I understand that Diaby & Denilson were both injured. Whether 1 of them would of played who knows? Flamini is a very intelligent, if unexciting footballer, who for long periods, in my opinion, carried Cesc, who didn’t look up to pace.
Flamini is like Fletcher for Man U. Not a star but a very competent player, who is very handy to have around.
By: Flint McCullough on August 13, 2007
at 8:15 pm
Agree re Flamini Flint. You can’t have a team full of superstars you have to have grafters as well. He serves a useful purpose in the squad and even pops up with the odd goal from time to time.
By: Passenal on August 13, 2007
at 8:26 pm
I agree with some of Dan’s Comments
I personally like Flamini, he reminds me of Grimandi and he is a grifter.
I Think we should have bought a direct replacement for Vieira and maybe in Edu we already had one, unfortunately they both went in the same Summer and Arsene has admittied that was a mistake. In Fact Vieira probably should not have left in the first place.
You mention Pires, but in my opinion we have never replaced him whether it be Established superstar or youth prodigy and it concerns me. remember at one stage we had Reyes and Pires now we have Rosicky who whilst talented is not a winger by trade.
I still hold out for that winger and I keep telling myself that things are happening and I do believe that maybe the Robben deal is holding that up with a hope that Robinho wings his way to us. If Wenger does not sign a winger by deadline day then sure we go with what we got but I have seen Malouda (13m) Ribery (17m) Babel (10m) move this summer and they all talked highly about coming to us so yes I do think Wenger is gambling and potentially making a huge mistake if one is not found.
Flint you mention our amazing ability to stay in 4th whilst going through transition but in both years we were closer to 5th than 2nd yet we had the funds to not be in the situation in the first place. I am not sure what the difference in revenue is between UEFA Cup and Champions league but I bet it could buy Robinho and Anelka. why gamble with a clubs future in that way?
By: Patthegooner on August 13, 2007
at 8:41 pm
i do not mind flamini, but only when we are desperate, he should not be the number three, flint says diaby and denilson were injured but i have not seen that confirmed anywhere and i will bet any one that flamini will be playing on wednesday night again. i can not see robinho coming to us from real madrid, it is hard to see the attraction for him. the difference in revenue is huge they said that teams that went out at the group stage earned twice what spurs earned who got to the semi final. anyway buying anelka, martins, malouda, ribery or babel would not exactly be putting the clubs future in doubt, hillwood today again said we have plenty of money as he has been doing for the past year.
By: dan on August 13, 2007
at 9:02 pm
bottom line is he is not buying anyone because he thinks he doesn’t need them and has nothing to do with money. and therein is the 64 thousand dollar question, are our current players good enough to win the league or not (we shuld at least be aiming ti win the league) . he thinks they are and we will all hope that he is right.
By: dan on August 13, 2007
at 9:08 pm
That’s it Dan. We hope he is. And in the year after someone other than ourselves has won the title, it is always harder to believe. In fact, from a supporter’s perspective it takes a little faith. Good luck with that. When we get close, for god’s sake don’t change. Still be full of doubts and give the boss no credit, it will be more fun for the loyal ones.
By: danny on August 13, 2007
at 10:18 pm
sorry Dan I meant blind ones!
By: danny on August 13, 2007
at 10:27 pm
“I Think we should have bought a direct replacement for Vieira and maybe in Edu we already had one”
Who ? Name the direct replacement for Paddy in his prime & the cost.
Then DB10, Le Bob etc, etc
That is what I can’t get through to you. Great players like that don’t grow on trees & ready made everyone knows about them so the biggest pockets get them.
Great player though he was/is Edu was made of glass & was hardly ever fit, that’s why they let him go.
We have been building for a long term sustained future, it is nearly there. I am sure that if the right player/s for AW becomes available we will get him/them.
But just be patient.
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at 12:48 am
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Exactly. The fact that we have money doesn’t mean that we can spend whatever it is in world beaters. Arsène didn’t say he has the perfect squad, he said the squad was good enough to challenge for the premiership. He said he could buy some one if he found him available, that is when he talked about his “super class signings” he MIGHT add to the squad. “One or two players” if he found them “for the right prize”. We have money, but it is not wise to spend it like spurs have (or like manchester these summer, or like chelsea every year except this one). We have been building a team from inside and we play exciting football and have challenged for trophies every single year with Wenger in charge. We have a new state of the art stadium that makes the club better. New and better training facilities. A great youth squad. A lot of trophies. All in 10 years with Wenger. What is there to complain?? So we haven’t won the league for THREE WHOLE YEARS. What a disaster, eh? yes constructive criticism is perfectly reasonable and we can all do it. But complaining of this and asking for radical changes is like divorcing a beautiful, loving, inteligent, etc. wife because she has caught flu.
By: Non Edible Nacho on August 14, 2007
at 3:00 am
We shud get martins..
By: adc on August 14, 2007
at 7:03 am
Flint you completely missed my point too
WE SHOULD NOT HAVE LET PV4 go and when we did Wenger should have had the ideal replacement lined up and did not buy anyone whether it be ready made or kid
Yet at the time Dacourt could have filled the gap and Carrick and Yaya Toure were available amongst others
Again same went for Pires and now Reyes, he just wasnt replaced, and players then how about Ribery Malouda etc, it was only a year ago
but he hasnt replaced them then or now that is my point
IF you dont agree dont come back with great players dont grow on trees cause your missing my point And actually they do but they cost Market Value.
You tell me in our current squad (1st and Reserves) who are our players that have replaced Bob and Reyes?
By: Patthegooner on August 14, 2007
at 7:13 am
I think Rosicky was bought quite specifically to play in Pires’ place, albeit with some different characteristics. One came when the other one left.
By: Non Edible Nacho on August 14, 2007
at 7:32 am
Pat, Paddy’s legs were beginning to fade and his overall game was far less effective, thus he was sold. Your replacements at the time Paddy left were not up to scratch. Possibly not even now! Carrick? Behave! Let’s face it football teams are not jigsaw puzzles, you cannot simply replace the pieces. Teams evolve and adapt. That is the process we have experienced, that’s football Pat!
By: Danny on August 14, 2007
at 8:08 am
Why can’t you understand that Paddy was only 75% of his former self & becoming injury prone. He has looked positively pedestrian whenever I have seen him, since he left.
You would rather prohibit Cesc witrh a clogger like Dacourt & Carrick was at Spurs. Yaya Toure changes clubs every year & is about Zokora class. None of them approach Paddy in his prime or indeed Cesc, throughout this period.
Paddy was absolutely world class in his prime. The only 1 approaching him has been Essien, who Chelsea were always going to get.
Ribery has had more clubs than birthdays & maybe just maybe Rosicky is better than Malouda.
By: Flint McCullough on August 14, 2007
at 8:45 am
Rosicky was bought specifically to replace Pires – Wenger was quoted at the time as saying ‘He is the closest player in the world to Pires’.
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