Posted by: Yogi's Warrior | July 29, 2007

Paper Round And PSG

It bugged me yesterday about the Makita International tournament and I’d forgotten how many of them there were in the late eighties and early nineties. Hardly surprising given the opposition that any can barely be remembered but for those who were interested, the 1988 Tournament I referred to yesterday contained 4 - 0 and 3 - 0 victories over Tottenham and Bayern.

So to this morning’s papers and I feel that I ought to warn everyone that there is optimism in the following paragraphs.

CAUGHT!” screams the News of the Screws backpage. Arsene had dinner with DD on Thursday so must be up to something. Apparently, they spoke about Arsenal (Shock! Horror!); Thierry Henry was mentioned (Gasp!). And that’s it. Oh well aside from being the first time that they had met since he left (Doubtful!). Inside, there is an interview with Cesc - the boy must be after writing a column in there, he’s featured so often - which talks very positively about the coming season. The tagline of ‘Ljungberg and Henry have it wrong‘ gives you the angle. Talking about his future and how he wants to be remembered - ‘like Henry, Vieira and Bergkamp…The fact is Henry is now part of Arsenal’s past, just like Vieira‘. Speaking of what he has learnt in his time in the first team,

At the start of my Arsenal days, we enjoyed a lot of success but not last season. That is quite important to me because a player should approach the game understanding the harsh realities of what can happen. Overall my aim is for the team and not personal success

Looking ahead he commented on money spent by others - ‘these cannot guarantee success‘ - and how he believes that ‘this year we are set to spring many a surprise‘. He’s ‘nearly convinced‘ Arsene will sign another deal and that his own future was decided for him when AW told him ‘how necessary I am to the team‘. He finished with,

I would love to captain Arsenal. It is a mater of enormous prie to me because the fans are always with me and that support is very valuable. I know how the fans suffer when we lose

He ought to pop over here because there are those who suffer when we win.

A small snippet in the same paper reveals that Denilson won’t return to Brazil to play football because he can achieve everything he wants to at Arsenal. The same paper regurgitates the signing of Luka Modric for £11m which surfaced a few weeks back although then he was a January signing.

The Mail informs us that Glenn Roeder is being considered for the DoF job which could be true. The considered bit. Maybe it is as likely as Gerrard Houllier who was apparently at The Emirates yesterday. Maybe it will be neither as apparently Arsene feels it unfair to bring someone in with Kroenke in the background.

The Sunday Mirror reports that Lassanna Diarra is going to sign this week for £2m which is a drop of £2m since the story first broke; maybe that’s the way to judge the rumours in the press. If the price goes up, it’s happening; down, it isn’t. Although God Knows what anyone makes of Jose Antonio Reyes who Marca proclaimed would be a Real player on Monday or Tuesday. The same paper now says the same days will see him as an Atletico player with the fee being €12m, a third higher than it had been eight hours earlier. Fair play to them though, they are trying to find a club for Reyes because he isn’t going to Lyon as neither he and his fiancee speak French (Really???) and she will have a child to look after this year. I presume she is expecting although they could have been referring to Reyes, I suppose.

So to yesterday. It proved that there are some players who are further from fitness than others. Clichy looked as if he is ready and raring to go; Senderos the same, barely putting a foot wrong in the game. Toure has some way to go, possibly his poorest forty five minutes in an Arsenal shirt. Elsewhere, the second half combination of Eboue and Hoyte in the second half did well, Hleb looked far more comfortable in the centre of a 4-5-1 than he does on the right. Indeed that change of formation, enforced through absences, was another poke in the eye with a sharp stick for those who believe AW never has a Plan B. Hell, there was even a Plan C with long balls going into Bendtner. A nervy performance, understandably, from him in the first half improved in the second. His lay-off to Flamini showed good positional sense and awareness of others and his first touch improved as the game went on. His goal was welcome for the manner it was scored in more than anything else, I cannot remember the last one where we fed off the scraps of a header won at a corner. The good thing is to have come through with no injuries and knowing more about the fitness levels, PSG were comfortably ahead in that stake which is understandable given their season starts next week. A final mention should be for Manuel Almunia who I thought had a generally outstanding game, a display that possibly means that the replacement for Jens is not quite so clear cut. For those who want a detailed match report, read a paper although Amy Lawrence has a good piece in today’s Observer about the performance and this season coming.

’til Tomorrow.

Responses

Sunday morning to yer Yogi. Good to know there is a tad more football to take in today. Although it does still make for some ugly parallel universe where our beautiful passing football is replaced with constant media sniping. So roll on Fulham and the real stuff. But all of sudden, i am hit with a doubting wave, maybe a pre season stich. Are we ready? The little niggles, the Da Silva delay and Wenger hinting at further movement. Cant help feeling we are a week behind schedule, maybe today will let us know

i was pleased with the performance. Bendtner was winning headers all day long and i thought Clichy and Eboue on the wings really provided a threat. It was interesting to see how much more dangerous Hlebs trickery is when employed in the centre. On the wings it’s a bit wasted.

Just read the recommended observer article. She outlines the two camps well. Some of us believe these new characters, hopefully winners will emerge this season.

Danny

The only bit I disagreed with was when she spoke about the personalities and their ability to pass on ‘experience’. Being a loud character is not the only route; indeed, someone who talks too much may find that their points get lost in the mists of everything else. Quieter men such as Bobby Moore for example, were more than a match at passing things onto others.

YW

Tend to agree with you on that one Yogi. Cant accept Bert does not pass on his knowledge and experience. But she does seem to grasp the levity of change we have seen. And i can guage her take on the charismatic presence on the pitch that may need to be found again. She also highlights legitimate contenders to take up that mantle. Boring question i know, but what is your take on signings from here in. Can you see any incoming? And is it a bit late?

I think Big Phil and Gallas were fairly solid at the bank and seemed to fit together better than Gallas/Toure. Clearly we also need at least a wide left player with true skill. Besides that I’m ok with the squad even if they may be another season away from really challenging.

Signings is tough to call now; midfield left needs someone but he is preparing for life without one. Defence is OK, work needs to be done on the combinations. I think it was Cecilia who commented about the various combo’s yesterday.

AW teased the media; their continual questioning about Anelka got the contemptuous response it deserved. I cannot see him signing Anelka unless da Silva’s Work Permit goes South.

If he is going to sign anyone, the start of the season is such that I don’t think it is going to be too late if someone joins in mid to late August. I cannot see more than one coming in though, and it will probably be a midfielder, one who is equally happy wide or centrally though more emphasis on the wide would be nice. Eboue could make it on the right and Walcott on the left.

Most likely scenario? One in now, two more in January plus cover if any serious injuries occur in the meantime.

Since the end of last season it has been evident that anyone else coming in was dependent on replacing those going out. Fabianski replaced Poom and Eduardo replaced Henry and Sagna replaced Ljungberg by virtue of Eboue stepping into midfield. The next move can only be to replace Reyes as and when he goes.

With TH gone the so called ’shrinking violets’ will come forward, as in any walk of life people will take up the challenge when a gap appears, Ade always says his peace and Nik B certainly ain’t shy, and Clichy is always quick to speak up for the team and seems to have AFC running through him like a stick of rock.
More of the same please in the second half with Eboue starting to show the wide right may suit him and his play with Hoyte and Hleb showed better promise at times. Since seeing Eboue playing in front of Hoyte last season I think their play shows some promise especially as Hoyte is quick in mind as well as in body.
Nice to see Diaby and Bendtner mixing the physical bit with play, if I can feed my Jack Russell on the same Diet as Gael Clichy I,ll be running him at Brighton dogs.
Confidence will be better than any more additions, today will be a better test.

I have to say Hoyte really impressed me yesterday. He looked like he has grown 2 years in confidence & could yet make it with us in spite of the Sanga signing.

His combination with Eboue could be very promising as both have pace to burn.

would agree that hoyte looked better than Sagna but its early days for the frenchman.
It was the first time I have been excited by the left hand side since Pires left. I like rosicky but he cuts in and is a central player playing on the left, but clichy was lightning quick and likes the touchline. I would like to see more of that. If traore is not ready then just put flam at left back and move clichy forward. then use Hleb and Ros where they look more comfortable.

I thought that Sagna got caught out a few times because Flamini isn’t a winger and didn’t give him an outlet. I remember one time that Flamini gave him the ball and promptly ran away. 2 PSG players promptly closed in on Sagna. It was pretty funny and oh so sad.

We definitely need a winger and from the Boss’s comments yesterday, he sees Eduardo playing on the flanks as well and he can cross the ball well, so perhaps he really is going in for Anelka. If he got Anelka, I think that people would be rejoicing.

I did like the 4-5-1 as well. Once the team got used to it, they were fantastic. Hleb seemed to revel in it, although he was getting kicked to pieces. Bendtner was a mixed bag but reflected the team as a whole. Was poor in the 1st half and was superb in the 2nd…

and Yogi, Houllier was indeed in attendance.

i dont know why AW brought sagna!! i know that he is a quality player but i feel we had enough in that department already.eboue is not gonna be a great RM, he will be good but good aint good enough!! he is a great RB he was just unlucky with injuries last year..hoyte is more then capable to fill in.its center back where he should of spent his £7m. senderos is so annoying because he can be great for 4 or 5 games , then bang he has a mare or two. to win the league your team needs to be good on paper aswell,and we are missing two players,i think diarra would be a good signing but them communists down the bridge wont sell to us will they , i cant see it.
they said we were inexperienced last year so with the loss of 2 experienced players now what will they say!!

Im set to miss the game today, but does anybody know if it is possible to watch is somewhere online, AFTER the game has finished. I will be back online around 7.

More importantly - I was at the game yesterday, what has happened to the Arse Burger ? Is this now phased out ?

I think that anybody who watched the game is now convinced that:

+ Van Persie can be this great season striker.

+ Hleb is great player. His dribbling ability and link play are more valuable centre of the park.

+ Eboue can play right midfield. He is much more aware when playing on the right of the midfield. Since yesterday, he had been clear that Sagna has been told that Arsenal despite playing in a 4-5-1 the defense system is the U back four and not the wide back four. In a U back four, the full back stay pretty slightly ahead but close to the centre half. In a wide back 4 often used when the mdifield is a narrow 3 and the opponent has a midfielder whipping crosses, the full back stay very close to the touch to stop the crosses. One of the midfield stay with any wide midfielder running.

+ Kieran Gibbs is a much better prospect than Mark Randall, who is willing but does not have the technical ability and vision to play for Arsenal.

+ Bentdner needs to be part of the team rather than try to prove to the rest how good he is. During the game Hleb had a go at him. At the end of the game, you could see that they were having an heated argument.

valentin

i didnt see the game, so do you think eboue can play RM in the prem and be succesfull there?

I was pretty happy with how it went other than the centre backs. one chance one goal, Gallas not tall enough to defend a basic cross. Get either of the other two in there and we have a team.
Hleb is good in the Bergkamp role but the trouble is with that is we only have one striker on the pitch then. Hleb is a good player but a problem , he did ok on the left, I think he is better on the left than right to be honest. Eboue looks like he might improve on the wing. he needs more games to improve though.

it was very similar to a lot of games last season. play good possession then let one in then batter the door down for an equaliser and eventually the winner late on. Got to stop letting easy goals in.

Eboue was very good. I believe that he would be very effective in the premiership. Also he combined very well with Sagna. His directness were drawing a lot of fouls from Inter (3 yellow cards) and causing a lot of troubles to our opponents.
He also can shoot from outside the penalty box, which is something that Hleb never did last year.

Gallas was poor. Yes he is quick, but he is not very dominant on set pieces (free kicks, corners) and crosses.
On Saturday he let Pegguy luyundula scored by being incorrectly positionned.
On sunday he let Inter scored from their first attempt.

In fact the pair Toure/Senderos were looking a much better proposition.

Hleb play centrally today and yesterday. The only bad thing that he did today was not staying more up front.

Fabregas was shockingly bad today and yesterday. You could see that physically he is already drained. Hopefully it was due to the pre-season training schedule. Also him and Flamini cannot play together when faced with bigger/taller centre midfield. The combination Diaby/Denilson looks better against the bully boy of the new Northern Ireland Fulham, Blackburn Bolton that we will have to face without Gilberto.

Fabregas is probably not yet match fit, as opposed to being drained.

Encouraging performance today, admittedly difficult to draw too many conclusions against opposition at a completely different stage of conditioning. The young guns will still be heartened and accepting confidence will play a vital part in this young teams start to the season performing well in the next tin cup could have a significant bearing. With so many players unavailable, we still managed to reach good levels. To counter previous complaints, Sagna was excellent and looks the number one option.

I agree with the above on Sagna. He is a very good header of the ball, a problem I felt we had with Eboue and Hoyte at times last year with diagonal balls into the box. We still have to look out for those with Clichy, but if the center-halves can shade to just the one side it should help.

Just who those center-halves should be really concerns me at the moment. I feel that the pairing of Toure and Gallas, while probably the best pairing in the world against sides like ourselves that pass on the floor, is too small and lightweight against more direct types of teams. Toure for me is an automatic first-choice, and replacing Gallas with Senderos or Djourou would ruffle his sensitive feathers. I could see him playing at LB and pushing Clichy up the wing, but does anyone have any ideas how to solve this riddle?

Dan, Gallas needs to be a team player (which seems to be the Arsenal mantra at the moment) or on his bike. Arsene seems to want to play horses for courses next season so you either get with the programme or you get lost. There should be no room for egos in the new Arsenal.

[...] Paper Round And PSG It bugged me yesterday about the Makita International tournament and I’d forgotten how many of them there were in […] [...]

the way i see it, any other combination other than Toure/Gallas works well.

Guys

Has Alexander Hleb been reading Blogs, he was excellent over the weekend, and when his initial well placed shot was saved, by the time I had thought what has the poor bloke got to do to score, he banged in the rebound in probably the only place he could have scored.

Eboue also did well, and although I still dont like the idea of him on the wing full time and whilst it should not be an excuse to not buy one it is certainly an option in emergencies

Now the weekend was my first opportunity to get to the new stadium, and what a stadium, it is awesome and the atmosphere generated was better than I thought, especially during the Mexican Wave on Saturday.

All I would say is probably a repeat of what a lot of you have already said, they have got to improve the Refreshments, We queued for 45 mins and were still 10 people away. I gave up as we were just taking the field. I was on the lower tier but apparently it is lot quicker upstairs.

All in all my pre-season gloom has lifted based on Sundays performance and just by seeing them in person. I still maintain we are two players short though but from the Program it seems they are addressing this.

Oh and what the fuck is going on with Eduardo and work permit, that could be really embarrasing.

When do Croatia join the EU?

Leave a response

Your response:

Categories