Posted by: Yogi's Warrior | July 22, 2007

Paper Talk

A Sunday where the papers are dominated by talk of Bernie Ecclestone. Whilst others welcome the competition, Roy Collins in the Sunday Telegraph talks sense, commenting that a bid ‘is as likely as David O’Leary returning as manager‘ to succeed. In order to fill the Sports section though, they do fill a couple of articles with it so not all of them at the Telegraph are of the same mind. The Mail On Sunday flies with the ‘Wenger is unsettled’ angle on the takeover talk, observing that the friendship AW had with Dein has been supplanted by a ‘close relationship with Ken Friar and Danny Fiszman, whose private jet he uses for scouting trips‘. Dein will no doubt be crying into his cornflakes at having been spurned so cheaply. Meanwhile The Independent nearly gives Ecclestone the coverage he deserves by relegating it to two paragraphs, a throw away comment and The Times totally ignored it on their website.

Back to The Telegraph. The paper will send some into apoplexies of rage with the news that Arsenal are second only to Middlesbrough in the number of English players in their Academies. Whereas ‘Boro have eighteen out of nineteen, Arsenal total fourteen out of fifteen. It is not that they are English that will worry people, it’s the lack of experience. The Academy is doomed to fail because they have not got enough top flight games under their belt. Steven Howard in yesterday’s Sun lambasted Arsenal for leading the way in signing foreign players to the detriment of the England team. Apparently, Justin Hoyte is on his way out following on from the signing of Bacary Sagna and Theo Walcott won’t be able to hold down a place because that dastardly Emmanuel Eboue is being moved forward to provide competition for him. Well, far be it for me to disagree with such a venerable commentator as I am but a humble blogger, but that is absolute rubbish on several levels. Firstly and by no means not least, both are regulars for the Under-21’s when fit so it hardly fits with his assertion that we are holding England back.

The most important point that Howard overlooks, because well, it would shoot his view to pieces, is that there are not sufficiently high numbers of reasonably priced Englishmen who are technically gifted enough to fit in with the England side. Rather than having a pop at the Premiership clubs, he would have been better suited turning his ire onto clubs such as West Bromwich Albion who value an uncapped Centre Half with one season of relegation-striven play at £10m. That is not good business sense from a purchasing point of view, Arsene’s value of £6m is nearer the truth given his potential (that damned word). Davies is nowhere near the finished article and would not be able to displace Gallas or Toure, struggling to assert himself ahead of Djourou (who is a full international) and Senderos (shhh, he is too and played at a World Cup). You see for all of those who denounce Arsenal for not fielding Englishmen, look at the coaching they receive and then direct your thoughts there. Within the next decade, you may see the number of Englishmen in the team increase as the Academy bears fruit and then when they are more technically gifted than others, perhaps the paragons of virtue will not be the underachieving English clubs but the ones who coach their players properly. That we have the highest number of former trainees in the League at other clubs ought to be pointing you in that direction. That most of them were unable to compete with more technically gifted ‘foreign’ players is the biggest chastisement of English football that there can ever be.

Anyway onto the transfer rumours. The Telegraph lets itself down by carrying the Palacio hoax still as a rumour. The Screws reckons that Stephen Appiah is on his way to the club for between £6-£8m, which according to a friend Arsenal are aware of ‘and it really won’t be an issue‘. No, it won’t. Because we won’t be paying it just like we haven’t for the last two transfer windows. The same paper reckons Mick McCarthy is after Armand Traore which would allow Arsene to keep all of his right backs and use Sagna or Hoyte on the left. Except he appears to hold Traore in high esteem so it seems a bit of wishful thinking on someone’s part. If the word ‘Loan’ had appeared in there, I would have said ‘Go For It’, get the lad a season of hard work in a promotion battle and see if he steps up a level.

Despite publicly declaring that he will not play for another Premiership club, West Ham are still sending Freddie Ljungberg little lovenotes, and are confident of getting their man. Their Collina lookalike Chairman reckons, ‘He is a player we like and we have been watching for several months. We are confident a deal can be finalised‘. It’s a bizarre thing to say about a player who was until injury struck one of the two top midfielders in the Premiership. Still if they have only been watching him for a couple of months, then they must think he is doing a good job. Personally, I am minded to keep Ljungberg at the club as cover but it comes down to money. If someone offers £5.5m for him, then it is good business sense to let him go. Which means he’ll stay and just be added to the myriad of bad business decisions taken by the Board.

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Responses

  1. great postas usual Yogi, another thought on that Arsenal destroying England theme.

    Players consistently talk of wanting to play regular first team football, apparently English players can’t get that at Arsenal, overlooking the fact that you have to be good enough to warrant a place in the first eleven.

    What you don’t hear footballers saying is that they want to play where the best pay packet is, classic example Mr Sid Sidwell. Here is a guy who wasn’t getting enough opportunities as arsenal, leaving a team where he is guaranteed first team football for a place on the bench albeit a well paid place.
    And I don’t buy that wanting to win trophies nonsense either, how can you say you’re “winning” trophies when you’ve not contributed to winning them.

  2. I think that Traore would be well advised to do a loan deal, if one were to come up. I think that we have more than enough cover for now. I don’t see Hoyte going anywhere when he just signed a new deal. That makes little sense.

    I also don’t see Freddie going anywhere. I know that there is more than a month remaining in the transfer window, but I can’t really see Freddy disappearing now. But you never know. I do think that he can still offer something being able to play across the midfield, that is if he stays injury free. He still knows where the goal is….

  3. Good Post Yogi

    It saves me clicking all the links on Newsnow

    The whole ‘Reyes to Spain’ situation seems to have quitened down, I can’t see him going to Lyon, that would surely be a step back. I wonder when the decision will be made to bring him back into Pre-Season.

    I know the Spanish Clubs are back in Pre-Season so where is he?

  4. Pat

    I’m not sure Lyon should be considered a step-back as they are pretty much guaranteed CL football each season and seem to be reasonably adept at getting the QF’s each time. That said, it is a step down in terms of stature obviously given Madrid’s heritage and that of Arsenal as well.

    Given that the Robben transfer seems to have been conducted through the media rather than with Chelsea, it may well be that the Reyes gig goes through sooner rather than later.

    As to his whereabouts, I presume he’s in Spain as there is no mention of him being in Austria with Real; he must be looking for a Club though he must be reaching the point where he has to return to Arsenal in order to get fit for the new season. If he leaves it too long, the window will be closed and he’ll be nowhere near a new Club, unfit and back in London. Real maybe waiting for that moment to come in order to pressurise Arsenal but I sincerely hope that the Club don’t blink first in this game of ‘Transfer Chicken’.

    YW

  5. That’s exactly it! Get the cheeky git back here, pretty sure what my boss would say to me job-hunting while he was paying my wages; No way, Jose! Message: if no one really wants you Reyes, you’re staying put, unless of course you’ve got ten million quid to shred you’re own contract. Get over it. Good comments from Edelman today, for the i want a takeover brigade. It may be the latest fashion but that doesn’t mean it’s good for the club. Don’t need foreign owners or big name signings, just a masterplan!

  6. You are right, they are gauranteed CL Football but its the overall stature of the French League that I refer to.

    I would say that within Europe they are probably 5th after England, Spain, Italy and Germany. So the only benefit is the Weather

    I think you share my concerns with Reyes, I hope Arsenal stands firm and if Real dont match the valuation then he comes back, he would quickly become a 1st team again and his valuation on current crazy prices will go back up.

    I would hope that we have given them a deadline to buy too as if this goes into the last week of the Transfer Window (Do Spain start later than us again) we will not have time to source an adequate replacement and players already on Wengers list may have moved on.

  7. Pat

    Yes, the Spanish start later than us although I think it is only a week or so later, the 26th August or thereabouts.

    The problem I have with Reyes going is two-fold. Firstly, I think he is a very good player and secondly, he fills a hole in this squad, a naturally left sided player.

    If he came back now, I also think he would find his previous problems with a certain squad member gone and he would in fact, be a big fish in the Arsenal pond.

    The Spanish are however a proud and stubborn race – if my experiences are anything to go by – and it would be a huge climbdown for him to come back and make a go of it, something I am convinced he is not prepared to do.

    YW

  8. i do see freddy going to west ham,and why wouldnt he?, they obviously want him out of arsenal . theres alot of talk to contradict this, but in all honesty, he must be feeling the IM NOT WANTED VIBE , so to me its only a matter of time .

    Armand Traore looks a very good future left back , i would be very supprised if arsene lets him go . mind you i was shocked when henry left also , so i s’pose anything is possible . But he looked the goods against the turkey side , and i dont think he is too far away from a 1st team birth.

    Stephen Appiah is a great winger, big and strong , a great eye for a pass, and can defend too .. he would be a great purchase ! 26 and HEAPS of experience at the top level .
    infact he would be the best buy so far .. we needed 3 or 4 players of his calibre this season , then i wouldnt be complaining . but again theres the issue of ANC.
    this also means that they probably wont sign him .sanga is
    a good buy also . if only we got some striker who is QUALITY , i also wouldnt complain !

  9. Ethan

    Surely Appiah is not a winger? Whenever I’ve seen him play, it’s been in central midfield.

    I wouldn’t get too excited about signing him as he’s been linked with us, United, West Ham, Celtic amongst others in recent seasons.

    YW

  10. Appiah is a Central Midfielder, and with Fabregas, Gilberto, Denilson, Flamini, and Diaby I think we are covered there. I think it is just and example of a player and agent trying to instigate a move.

    I dont think we need 4 new faces, I think it is more like two, a Proven Striker and a Goalscoring winger. Anelka and Wright-Phillips would do for me but for his own reasons Wenger does not want either which is a shame as they both score goals and they both have Premiership experience and with Arsenal and a regular start Wright-Phillips would get back in the running for England

  11. But if Ljungberg does go to West Ham (And they are one club that will match his wages and pay us a good fee) then ok we will need 3 new faces,

  12. Appiah and his agents have been trying to engeneer a move to Arsenal every summer for the last three years. He play in central midfield and as already mengtionned, he is not needed or wanted.
    Traore at 17 years old does not have yet the stamina to last a full 90 minutes of premiership play. After 70 minutes he tend to suffer from cramp. To force him to play at this stage of his physical development is to risk a long term injury. Newcastle enquired about him last year, but were told No for exactly that reason.

    The problem with Freddit is that Wenger is not still not sure that the physical problems that plagued him last year will not come back. Also Freddie wants a pay off to be discarded. West Ham would be the best fit in financial and in the lack if life change, however for a competitor like Freddie there would be no football challenge. After experiencing so high, some player cannot handle the mundane life of mid table: Ian Wright, Martin Keown, … .

    Justin Hoyte is likely to be sold next year rather than now. Kerrea Gilbert looks like a better understudy than him. With Eboue at the ANC in January, Arsenal needs a backup for the role of right back. Also January is Carling Cup and 3rd/4th round of the FA Cup.

    The Bernie Ecclestone story comes from the same school of investigative journalism than the report of Arsenal buying Palacio and Angel Di Maria. Bernie Ecclestone is a Chelsea casual supporter whose daughter is dating David Dein’s son. Why would the board ask him to play the role of the white knight ? Except that he is English and filthy rich, he has no connection with Arsenal. He is the kind that would buy Arsenal and resell it for a quick buck without any regard to the fans and the club.
    That does not make sense. in armour does

  13. Valentin:
    “Kerrea Gilbert looks like a better understudy than him. ”
    Are you serious? How many games has he played that you have seen? He could not comand a regular spot at cardiff.

  14. That sounds like inside information Valentine.

    Good luck to Freddie whatever he decides, I am sure he would get a good reception if he came back in another PL club’s colours. If he stays & is able to keep fit he could yet play a significant role for us. I fancy he has an Indian summer in him.

    Troare, like a lot of others, is an outstanding prospect who will not be ready for regular 1st team football for a couple of seasons. I doubt he will be sent on loan yet for that reason and because he could play occasionally certainly as a sub.

    I would forget about Reyes coming back, Arsene has as good as said he won’t. There is still quite a few years on his contract, I believe, so if RM are up to their tricks he could be sent on loan somewhere else. It is a shame because the lad has talent & fulfills a role that would be v useful for us.

    AW has said he will not be buying another forward so it appears unlikely there will be any more than 1 more significant purchase, if that.

    If that is the case so be it because we, in fact, probably have too big a squad as it is.

    There is no point blocking the progress of the current players unless a genuine talent becomes available at the right price & is significantly better than what we have.

    At last Keith Edelman has come out & confirmed what a lot of us have been saying. There is a horses mouth interview in the Sunday Times Business Section today. Good on him.

  15. didnt he play on the wing for parma ?
    well in any case im sure it wont happen . hes another ANC candiate , and for that very reason id give it up as pure speculation.

    However another bit of speculation is sam is after baptista.
    i didnt want to be proved wrong that he cant cut it in the EPL
    ,i always thought in the back of my mind that we didnt really
    give him a run at the start of last season , and when he was
    given time to prove himself it was cold and miserable and under too much pressure to produce . he looked good in the copa america cup. i couldnt even believe he was the same player.. if he did goto newcastle ,and then produced im sure there would be some eyes raised at arsenal .

    hey pat remember reyes , thats why i said 4 . to be honest we dont really have 1 left winger at the moment. yet alone a back up . it is a shame reyes doesnt reconsider . as i think
    a french club is interested in him .And that would be a step backwards. But im sure hell will freeze over before you see him in an arsenal shirt again . One thing is for sure we need to finalize that dealing quickly . Also it did strike me as strainge baptista is quotedly worth 6 mil , like RM offered us for reyes, it could all be another twisted gooner stirring the pot, to me i think baptista would be more settled in spain .
    and for me pat benni mcarthy and gamst on the wing.

    but again im sure arsene wouldnt pool from the epl .
    he needs too , but he wont…

    also why would newcastle need baptista , when they have owen and martins???

    weird !

  16. Kerrea Gilbert did command a regular place at Cardiff, until he was injured and then for personal family reason he was omitted from the line up.
    I have seen him play and the difference between Justin Hoyte and Kerrea Gilbert is that Gilbert seems to have more confidence in him. Hoyte crossing is atrocious and also he does not seems to have good awareness of his teamate when going forward.
    Justin Hoyte is a decent right back, I just do not think that he has the talent to step up and make the right back slot his own. If he was that talented, Arsene Wenger would not have bought Bacary Sgna who was voted best right back in France. As mentionned by Arsene Wenger in his interview (read L’equipe the French Spot daily newspaper in French http://www.lequipe.fr), Sagna has been purchased to play as right back especially with Eboue at the ACN, but he could cover the left back role if Clichy is injured. So Hoyte is destined to be his understudy.
    Justin Hoyte has still not play for Arsenal in the pre season friendly. At Barnet, Gilbert played right back. In Austra Sgna was replaced at half time by Eboue. Gilberto who was at the South America Cup is the only one with a dispensation.

    IMHO, his younger brother Gavin who play at centre half as a more reasonable chance to be a regular at Arsenal in a couple of years.
    By the way

  17. Looking at the price Real is ready to sell Baptista (6 millions) to Newcastle, them offering 7 millions for reyes may not be so bad.
    Lyon are interest in Reyes if they cannot get Rothen from PSG. I do not think that it is such a step back. If Real does not buy him, in Spain none of the clubs involved in the champion league want him. At Lyon he would play for a club regularly involved up to the quarter of final of the champion’s league.
    Lyon may not have the glamour or media exposure of Real, but in term of success, they have been more succesfully than Real for the last three years in both domestically and in Europe.

  18. Flint

    absolutly no chance of reyes going out on another loan ,
    that stint has already affected his value , and im sure sitting
    onthe bench at another club for another year will devalue him further . its a chance arsene wouldnt risk . Well i wouldnt

    also the way i see it arsene still can spend around 10- 12 mil mark so i would say we might still see 2 new players . 1 left winger obviously . and if freddy did leave a right winger definately too. the 2nd player would be a frindge youth player
    in a babel style mould probably gourcuff .

    but walcott is the one im pinning my hopes on , he was excellent on the right wing the other night and i hope he makes that position his . and dont worry he can still score
    his lions share of goals in that position .

    also song played as a central defender against that turkey side didnt he ? or are my eyes failing ???

  19. to be honest , i wouldnt be supprised if you see eboue sold.
    i mean sanga is 1st choice RB – hoyte or gilbert the understudy,walcott will make the right wing his position . arsene would be mad to not throw it over to him ..( plus we still have hleb) . so where does that leave eboue???
    somewhere between 2nd choice for RB , and possibly 3rd choice on the wing ….

    any thoughts?

  20. Walcott will play on the right wing, but will moved later to a striker role. Also in view of Walcott age he is unlikely to play all the games. I can see Hleb, Walcott and Eboue alternating on the right midfield.
    In view of the number of games than Arsenal will play, I believe that Eboue and Sagna will also share responsibility as right back.
    When played as midfield player, Eboue bring more directness to the team. Something different from Hleb and Walcott. His whipping crosses will really add something to Arsenal especially now than Wenger has decided that we need to score more headed goals.
    In two years time, Wenger will have to make a decision with regard to Eboue, Sagna and Gilbert/Hoyte. In the mean time, he will keep them.
    The long term contracts is just a way to get the upper hand in the negotiation. Eboue and Hoyte signed 4 and 5 years contracts when Fabregas signed a 7 years contract.

  21. what is good news for us and more importantly reyes is below

    —————————————————————————-
    Jose Mourinho has reiterated that Arjen Robben is not about to leave Chelsea, despite the winger sitting out Saturday’s friendly with Los Angeles Galaxy.
    but Mourinho says the 23-year-old is staying in London.

    “Robben is injured,” said Mourinho.

    “He’s here and he’s flying home with us, and not to Madrid.”
    —————————————————————————–

    RM might be knocking on the door again next week ..
    lets hope !

  22. Valentin

    do you think eboue will be satisfied then with not playing every week , like last season ???

  23. “Roy Collins in the Sunday Telegraph talks sense, commenting that a bid ‘is as likely as David O’Leary returning as manager‘. ”

    You’ve missed his point. Collins actually intimated that ‘Arsenal being happier to take Ecclestone than Kroenke just because he is English’ is as likely as O’Leary’s return. Ecclestone has bizarrely stated that if he fails to keep Wenger then he will install DO’L.

  24. And Arsenal aren’t second on the Englishmen in academies, they’re third.

  25. £2m for Ljungberg would be good business to be honest. We can’t have him holding us back. Sell him for whatever we can get and bring in a top winger. Ricardo Quaresma is still ideal at around £17m.

  26. Last season, Eboue had a niggling injuries on his ankles. He was more or less forced to play by Arsene Wenger. To play with an injection but still not have the full movement range is not something that player do lightly.
    Remember when at Liverpool he was injured and everybody thought that he was play acting. The result was he did not play for 3 weeks.
    The same thing after the league Man united game at the Emirates, after making the cross for the second goal he could not finish the game. Everybody assumed that he was play acting, the problem was that he was not. Once again he disappeared for a couple of weeks before actively replaying for us.
    I am pretty sure that knowing that Eboue will play at the ACN, he is welcoming somebody able to replace him rather than being forced to play when not fully fit.
    The issue is when they are everybody is fit and Arsenal has very few games, but as far as I know that nearly never happen. Unless Arsenal is eliminated early at the Carling Cup, the FA Cup, the champion’s league and the race to the title. In that case, the issue is not too many player wanting to play, but to motivate them to play when they would rather be in vacation.

  27. Bison

    Your interpretation of Collins comments is the same as mine. The bid from Ecclestone is not going to succeed.

    £2m for Ljungberg is bad business. £3.5m is the sound of a barrel being scraped. £17m for Quaresma is about £5 – £7m too much. Foreign clubs have seen the numbers being bandied about and think that money is growing on trees over here.

    YW

  28. I am not sure that £3.5m is bad business.
    in view of the Freddie huge wages, the number of club willing and able to pay such wage is limited: Man United, Chelsea, Liverpool, Newcastle, West Ham in England, Juventus, Milan, Inter, Roma in Italy, Real, Barcelona, Valencia in Spain.
    Outside of those club, nobody is going to fund a 6 millions bid and a high salary. It is either a high wage and low bid or low wage and high bid.
    Freddie has already stated that he expect to receive the same money than he would at Arsenal, so Low bid it is.
    We have been trying to flog him for a year without any taker.
    Only West Ham have shown a willing to go further than the polite enquiry.

    As a general manager, Arsene Wenger is given an overall envelopped per year that cover the purchase amount and the salaries. It is then up to him how it is spend.
    Bolton decided to pay no fee, but big salary. That’s why they were able to attract Okocha, Djorkaeff, Campo and other big players.
    Arsene rather spend on a certain number of young players that he will nurture for a couple of years before they can be actively involved in the first team.
    By releasing Freddie, he is freeing some money for a purchase and/or a salary. That cannot be a bad thing.

  29. I would prefer 3.5 but I would take 2m for Freddie, remember he is on a huge wage and maybe that saving should be taken into consideration for the eventual fee.

    Agreed that is too much for Quaresma, and I think we could get SWP for 10-12 or Di Maria for 4-5m

  30. SWP has had his chance and he blew it. We need a left sided midfield player, but we need somebody taller, otherwise we will have the shortest team in the league.
    Clichy, Sagna, Rosick, Hleb, Fabregas, Flamini, Denilson are less than 6ft.
    Quaresma is not really a left sided winger which is what Arsenal needs.
    From the U20 Argentinian team we should go for Morales rather than Di Maria. Yes Di Maria is easy on the eye, but Morales is efficient and his pass are really great quality.

  31. I dont know about that, We were after him but were put out of the running by a ridiculous bid from Chelsea when his real value was 10-12m (not 21) so we were never an option for him.

    I know he is RM but I think he would be a great addition

    I have a gut feeling someone will come in this week, It is the Emirates cup next weekend and Ticket Sales have not been the best, imagine what a new signing and one that would genuinly excite the fans would do to ticket and merchandise sales going into the weekend not to mention morale (This is the most optimistic Arsenal Blogs I have found, but overall I would estimate Arsenal Fans being 50/50 on the glass half full or empty front on prospects next season) . I know we stay away from the big names but just for example imagine what a Quaresma, Etoo, or Robinho would do not just on the field but also off it, sometimes these big names pay for themselves in shirt sales and merchandising. It will be interesting to see how many Eduardo shirts I see next Saturday. I was in Liverpool last week and there were Torres shirts everywhere!!

  32. I agree with Valentine that 1 of our problems is a lack of height & physique. Frankly if SWP is not good enough to play regularly for Chelsea then he is not good enough for us.

    If Reyes went on loan to say Sevilla why would he be a bench warmer? He could recover his form & consequently his value.

    I wouldn’t expect that to happen however & he will probably end up at RM at a compromise price.

    The challenge from Sagna could concentrate Eboue’s mind so that he can fill his enormous potential as a RB. He certainly has exceptional skill but at the moment that is flawed by his temperament.

  33. dont forget eboue was injured last season and needed time to get back to his best!! remember the cl cup run,he was exceptional! he is still one of the best right backs in the league!

  34. Pathegooner – according to Arsenal.com Sunday is sold out but there are tickets available for Saturday.

    Buying a big name to sell shirts and hold back the progress of the younger players is just not the Arsenal way. I’ll trust Wenger to do what is best for the team

  35. Sometimes a Player just doesn’t fit into a Managers plans and I think SWP fits into that, if anything it will mean that we can get him a bit cheaper. He is better than Hleb so surely he should be classed good enough.

    Also do you put Reyes in the same boat as he has spent a season on the bench at Real Madrid, yet we would be happy for him to come back into the fold. We definately should not comprimise, I have said before they devalued him not us.

    If Reyes continually goes on loan, could this open up the buy yourself out of the contract situation, I think that is based on weekly wage and means we could lose him for around 6 anyway. I am not sure if this is true given his age, any ideas?

    I dont think Sagna has been brought in as the number 1 RB, I think he has been brought in to add depth and to allow rotation, remember he can play all the way acoss the back four and in midfield.

  36. Apologies Passenal,

    I was given duff info and knowledge was a week old, I should have researched b4 posting, I was told they were about half full. a sell out is good news, hopefully the remaining tickets for Saturday will go this week

    I wont go into the buy class argument again. on this blog it seems just me and Ethan are in the mindset that we lack class and experience in the squad and maybe we should draw the line cause we have the same debate every day, and no doubt either we will have the displeasure of rubbing your nose in it after a 4th or worse finish or you will have the pleasure of wearing Arsene Knows T-shirts, hey even I will buy one if we come 2nd or above.

    I try to be optimistic but the last two seasons are draining me because I know with a couple more players things could have been so different.

  37. I am not sure on whether there is any reliable source behind this but it makes interesting reading

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premiership/arsenal/article2120567.ece

  38. [...] Paper Talk A Sunday where the papers are dominated by talk of Bernie Ecclestone. Whilst others welcome the competition, Roy […] [...]

  39. Hey Yogi, What’s the story with Ljungberg these days?
    Do you think Wenger letting him go is purely because he has been blighted with injuries or is there an element of falling down the pecking order? I don’t remember seeing much of him at all for ages. I can’t decide if he did come to West Ham for 3.5 million whether it would be a bargain or not (given the crazy prices these days..). On the one hand, I really liked the way he was playing a few seasons back but can West Ham get a lot out of him these days? Just wondered what you (or anyone else on here) thought.

  40. SWP will be the best for RW, better than Quaresman in my opinion ‘cos of long experience in the EPL but Chelsea will never sell to us so forget it. He blew his chance; we wanted him to come over but chose to go to Chelsea so let him rot there.

  41. Interesting what Valentin says regarding Traore’s fitness – 70 minutes doesn’t really cut it as a left back.

    Wolves are definitely mooted to be after Traore ON LOAN – I don’t think anyone harbours any illusions he’d come here permanently. We couldn’t guarantee Mancienne from Chelsea first team football, so he went to QPR, and Wolves are light in left backs.

    Personally, I think it would benefit all concerned, though I’m sure plenty of other Championship teams are thinking that – especially after Brum’s success with Bendtner and Muamba last year…


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