Posted by: Yogi's Warrior | July 17, 2007

Here’s The Good News

An interesting assessment of what last season brought to the table from Le Boss. It did not contain anything (I think) that he has not said before but for those complaining about how he sees nothing but positives, it was a reasonable reflection on 2006-07. Realistic, but definitely positive. Will it be enough to draw people away from the Wishing Well, wearing our rosette’s with pride? I am not sure, for whilst those of us who are upbeat about it all take positive breath from the assessment, in equal measure those not so sure may view this as proving that squad will crumble like clay once the season starts, the weaknesses he highlights unaddressed by new personnel.

AW’s comments are about as open as he will ever publicly be. His famously myopic eyesight (© every hack on the planet) is evidently cured; the assessment is every bit as revealing in what was not said as to what is committed to print; ‘we became more efficient in closing our opponents down‘ reads as a chastisement with consideration of the goals we conceded whilst highlighting the improvement as the season went on. Closing down is not just about denial of space in free-play, it includes set pieces. That he is not saying precisely that should not be taken as denial in action, just some things are better left unsaid, publicly at least.

The piece though highlights the advantages that Wenger has a manager, that which makes players want to work for him. With Mourinho, you get open pomposity; Ferguson always gives the feeling of there is an ‘edge’ to what he saying, always seeking to give himself a psychological boost. The cerebral element belies Wenger’s passion which manifests itself pitch side but pervades his words outside the playing area, making his thoughts worth listening to. He is not without his faults at times, as we all are and equally adept at choosing his words to suit his opponent, able to rile and be riled in equal measure. For those who want the buffoonery and bluster that has been evident in English football for decades from managers, he is their nemesis.

What the players love though is his loyalty to them. There is genuine belief in them and knowing that gives them the psychological boost they need, even when the words contain criticism. You know that the harshest words remain private yet he will not put them on the pedestal that the press will. The underlying message is that ‘you were getting there but you need that extra 20% mentally that will make you Champions‘. It is unusual amongst his peers for that to be hinted at or even said. The message is clear, shape up or ship out. But delivered in a fair manner, amongst eight hundred and sixty one positive words.

And it is the mental strength that he is asking for which is going to be difficult to deliver. He and his team can utilise all of the psychology that they want and it will sink in in the Training Complex but the combination of Adrenaline and Nerves will test the strength of those messages. Which is where the senior players come into the foreground. You know that Gilberto has the respect of the others, quietly assured on the pitch in midfield. Toure has commitment beyond doubt as his ATVO interview shows. Gallas has Leadership responsibilities that he has to show more positively than he did last season, burying his own personal frustrations for the betterment of the squad. He acknowledged this himself recently, contemplating stepping up to the Oche. But this needs to be transmitted, to give the younger players confidence. You can argue that this need not be the case, being at the peak of their profession ought to be enough yet it is required to bring out the consistency of display in others that makes the difference between Champions and Also-Ran’s. Just when you’re thinking things over, Arsene comes in with the positive aspect again, the ability to redeem a seemingly lost situation by clawing back a deficit, to bring us out of the hole in which we were buried up to our hips. A positive encouragement with the requirement for the one step beyond the norm needed to take that one step further.

In highlighting shortcomings though, AW highlights some areas of weakness that still need addressing. The width of the pitch still cries out for genuine wide midfielder’s / attackers. Some of this may be addressed with tactical shifts such as the inclusion of Walcott or Eboue on the right, Eduardo perhaps on the left. To do so though means playing individuals outside of what their comfort zones, their natural positions. Additionally it means sacrificing the skill sets of others such as Rosicky and Hleb who are capable of weaving patterns, eyeing the pass to create for others but drift inside. A natural winger may solve one problem but create others. It is Arsene’s job to solve such conundrums.

An upbeat piece following on from a Summer of negative press. Which way they present it, I frankly don’t care. ’til Tomorrow.

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I agree Yogi but i dont see that natural goalscoring winger we crave being bought. My gut feel is that Arsene is going to give Theo that opportunity to step up if not with every game but to at least give him the chance. I have doubts about Eboue being a wide man i cant remember him being able to cross that well although im sure the stats will prove me wrong! It goes without saying we need a good start for confidence to soar but i agree with the management i am very optimistic we can do very well, how well remains to be seen, we wont have to wait long to find out.

Best article for a short while Yogi. Understood the boss perfectly, interpreting the said as well as the unsaid. Wenger could bare our key areas of weakness but tactically this would be a useless and somewhat dangerous exercise. Our boss always more likely to eulogise on our individual strengths and set burning young confidence. The best of Wenger is angling on the mental side of our game and our collective ruthlessness. He has been here before pre-invincibles and is tuning the team psyche once more!

Yes - upbeat and positive as it must be but sufficiently analytical to feel that we have a grip on the principal failings.

There are so many variables in a season which are outside our control to such a large extent that predicting success is as much an act of faith as anything else. Refereeing decisions, the draw in cup competitions, injuries, form and the simple run of the ball all play too big a part to take anything for granted.

Early last season AW said that ‘very good teams can look average when confidence goes’. ManU got off to a good start last season. A good start for us will have a similar galvanising effect on our confidence.

Ricardo Quaresma will be having a medical at Arsenal on Monday. Just confirmed from his sister

Well written analysis. Personally, I agree with Wenger entirely. Some try to over-analyse what he’s saying, saying he’s trying to put a positive-spin on things, giving the players confidence. I just think Wenger believes he’s got a super-talented team, and it needs minor adjustments.

Wenger says out of the top four, we came top, we did, that’s not positive-spin, that’s fact. All the doubters need to look at that fact, and deal with it. Stop telling us why we need all these players, start telling us how we managed to defeat these teams that are supposedly so far ahead of us.

The facts of the matter are that we’re a fantastic team, probably the best team in this country, but have not applied our skill-set appropriately to beating the poorer teams.

But beating the poorer teams is an easier problem to resolve, than not being able to beat the top teams. Personally, I want to see completely different personnel applied against different opponents. Against teams that want to play football, Hleb and Rosicky will out-football anyone, away to the likes of Sheffield United, on a farm for a pitch, their skills are wasted, and should be replaced with brute force. I hope Wenger improves his ability to field the right team for the right occasion, and then I think we can become a consistent force.

Paulo, are you serious about this one or this is another palacio saga in the brew?

Nice piece. You describe an important part of the balance of particular skills which Le Boss uniquely possesses when compared with his peers. It is a necessary way to develop young players - don’t publicly flog them, as other coaches might get away with more confident players. Imagine AW ever throwing a boot at his captain?

Arsene’s Arsenal is as much about team culture as it is about technical ability & structure. He thrives on mutual trust between player and manager and between players. On this basis it will be interesting to see how that culture develops in the post-Henry era. I think in that department we will be stronger as the year moves on as such a dominant piece of the team’s culture is removed (provided Willy keeps himself in check). Cite Henry’s dances with Ade on the field when he is not even in the team & his cuddle sessions with Theo. I am not criticising Henry particularly. It is inevitable with such a great player on a team that things revolve around him & I am sure the young players felt much stronger having such an equisite game breaker on the field, but as a team i believe across the board we will lift now. Add up a 10% lift from every player and it makes a big difference.

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He played Henry “outside of his comfort zone”, “his natural position” when he arrived at Arsenal - Look what happened….

I cannot believe the tripe about sister claiming Quaresma is having a medical tomoro is already over on Mania.For God sake can gunners not luagh at this and not start posting them on forums? This is sheer desperation.I cannot believe this.Get a life folks and stop spreading any bit of joke about.We shall soon become a laughing stock for other fans.Its not rocket science to see Paulo is having a luagh.

Pascal Cygan is having a medical at Chelski, apparently to replace Terry, who is leaving for ManUre to replace Ferdinand, who is leaving to replace Cygan at Villareal.

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totally agree with hboys comments above. Hleb and Rosicky can outplay the top teams but put them against a shitty bottom of the table team on a dodgy pitch and 10 men behind the ball and they struggle like hell to produce anything productive. A player like Eboue on the wing in those games might be just the ticket.

Gooni - laugh - I cried. Perhaps Luzhny is part of the trade also?

I heard that Mourinho said Essien has now become an ever present in the chelsea midfield and wont be asked to play defence again. I think Lampard is also conisidered ever present and he also said he hoped to play a more attacking formation with wingers. Therefore Mourinho can either play with Makelele and use 4-5-1 (dropping sheva). or drop makelele and go 4-4-2, assuming Cole and Malouda as wingers and Drogba with Sheva up front. Either way it looks a formidable team. hate to say it but I cant see anyone beating them to the title this season.

gazzap

That is exactly what everyone thought last year about them and looked what happened. On paper they have the strongest squad but fitting everyone in is his problem; if Lampard is everpresent that means Ballack won’t play if it is a flat 4-4-2. Shevchenko may fire this season but it would not surprise me if he is not there come August although Drogba is now getting the ‘Henry’ treatment from the media so perhaps he’ll be off.

The centre of their defence looks to have sufficient depth but they lack quality cover at fullback and on the flanks, especially if Robben goes.

They will be a hard team to beat but nowhere near invincible. Let’s not forget we were within spitting distance of beating them twice last season.

YW

they weren’t that far away from man u in the end and that with cech and terry injured. the Terry injury probably cost them the title due to lack of cover since losing Gallas. I think they have Alex there now so wont be left short again. That coupled with Malouda, who I think will be the best signing of the summer, might be enough to do it for them. If they get Alves then their full backs are pretty strong, Bridge is a decent player and Cole, though an Arsehole, is not bad too. I think without Sheva and playing 4-5-1 they look a lot more likely to win than with 4-4-2. Is Mourinho brave enough to really go out and attack? I dont think so.

Until we buy a winger I cant even begin to think about us in terms of winning the title. we have 98% of what we need personnel wise, but the final missing piece is crucial.

Forget Chelsea and Man Utds undenailbely great squads if we start beating the poo teams we’ll be up there come the seconf season.

Having Martin Keown as a defensive coach will help us from conceding those crappy set piece goals and am optimistic about the new season.

PaulO not funny.

Yogi, great piece again. And spot on, Hboy and Adam. I agree:

- What Arsene said was an honest and fair assessment of the position we’re in. Not so much of a spin. Don’t think we’re in that “crisis” the media are talking about that warrants a deliberate spin anyway.

- The wide player we’ve been hoping for may only come in after we offload Reyes at a decent price. (And save the Quaresma crap please. Media/we looked silly enough in the Palacio thing. Not that it’s a bad idea though. But let’s stop dreaming too much.)

- Chelsea are absolutely nowhere near invincible. ManU actually seem to be the strongest on paper as it stands. And I’m not worried about Liverpool despite the big signings. I have a sneaky feeling that Torres (sadly) probably wouldn’t fly as they hope. I like the player but he’s not worth the price tag(s) we’re seeing on the papers. Btw, another sneaky feeling I have is that Spurs will continue to suffer no matter what signings they have. Not to mention that Bent’s, again, not worth as much as they paid.

- Winning a title is a function of so many factors, quite a few of which we can’t control. I’m reasonably happy with the squad we have now (and honestly agree with Fergie for once that we’ll be better off withut Thierry). If we could complete the jigsaw puzzle with a winger, it’d be fantastic and we can challenge again. Otherwise I still feel we can achieve 3rd of even 2nd place, with the quality we have as well as the lessons we learned from last season. Let’s also hope the injuries won’t haunt us as much as they did last season.

Fingers and toes and everything crossed. :)

There if a chance maybe that we move away from our traditional 4-4-2 and adopt a flexible 4-3-3:

Adebayor/Bendtner
VanPersie/EDS Walcott/Ebuoe/Hleb

Rosicky Cesc
Gilberto
Clichy Gallas Toure Sagna/Hoyte

BTW Yogi i really enjoy reading your blog keep up the good work

Oh no…….
Skysports claim we are gonna loan Merida out to some spanish team i would love him to break into the arsenal 1st team. He is now 17, cesc broke into the arsenal 1st team at 17 and i believe he is more talented than cesc.

but at the moment it seems if we go 4-4-2 its more like chelsea (sorry to keep mentioning them) of the recent past where they played 4 or 5 central midfielders across midfield with no winger. Last season it was often Ballack, Lampard, Makalele and Essien. so we are doing much the same thing but with better ball players whereas they have more brute force in their midfield. But effectively its the same tactics. We should remember that chelsea dont score that many goals for a team who challenge for the title every season. their team is based on conceding hardly any goals. I just feel this narrow midfield wont work for us. we will score a similar amount to chelsea, maybe even a few more, but because we lack that physical presence throughout the team, I dont see us getting anywhere near their goals against total.

For me Man U have become a bit of an unknown quantity with the new players. Nani and Anderson could flop. Giggs and Scholes are getting old and despite what the press will have you think were at least as important as Ronaldo for Man u last season. I think with key personnel changes at OT, they wont win the title this season.

First of all william gallas is a arsehole.

I cant wait for the new season so i can get to here rafa and jol’s exscuse’s for there team’s shit play against us.

Chelsea and man utd are both rubbish and man utd will be in the same position we have been in next year when they loose schole’s and gigg’s.

We have a great team that play’s superb football and we would not have finished fourth last season if we were consistant but given all the injury’s we had we didnt do to badly at all we finished 10 point’s clear in fourth and level on point’s with liverpool.

We traditionally do not spend above our station and i for one am glad we dont go after the like’s of eto ronaldinho and other player’s in there catagorys we can put all those million’s to better use.

I can garantee you all that the one thing wenger will be working on in preseason is the mentallity of the team and CONSISTANCY if he get’s both right then we will be up there slugging it out that i am positive about.

We made chelsea man utd liverpool and tottingham look stupid last season and apart from chelsea we demolished them with excellent football.

Man utd and liverpool have spent through there teeth putting both there club’s under alot greater pressure than arsenal is under and if next season goes the way i am certain it will then man utd and liverpool will have to prepare some pretty damn good exscuses.

Arsenal will win the league.The lad’s last season proved that they have what it take’s it is just a matter of learning how to finish team’s off and gaining exsperience and they got alot of it last season witch will be excellent for them.

Bottom line is if we are consistant and get a bit of luck with injury’s than the league is our’s.

Okay i think most arsenal supporters agree that consistency is what we must strive to achieve. With this we can challenge but i feel we shouldn’t be afraid to change formations against the so called smaller teams that set their stall out to defend and hit us on the counter attack and 4-3-3 suggested above seems a way to exploit this.

Is it time to force Reyes to return? Without the signing of a dribbling wide player, it’s time to start talking up Reyes’ value to the squad. Hence applying more leverage to the bidding teams, by extending his value to us. A potential problem would be an admission that this is an imbalance in the squad if we do go ahead and sell him. It may also disappoint some team members if we talk up his value then sell him, having already lost the mercurial one. However, as this wide player who has the ability to get on the scoresheet has not been signed, it must be time to drag Reyes back untill this position has been filled. If he does not like it, tough! What difference does it make, we already know he wants to leave! Unless of course there is an iron in the fire somewhere!

Silver

If you are looking to pressurise the opponents in the circumstances you describe, 3-4-3 is a better option. The line up would be something like

Lehmann; Toure, Djourou, Gallas; Eboue, Fabregas, Gilberto, Rosicky; RvP, Adebayor, da Silva

3-5-2 (or 3-4-1-2) works better for an attacking team although in that scenario, you would bring in Hleb and rotate the strike force. Push Rosicky further forward with Hleb in on the left (he will drift inside so may as well do that on his stronger foot) to accommodate this.

When under pressure, Eboue drops into RB, Gallas LB, Hleb RM, Rosicky LM leaving 4-4-2, still enough to hit them on the break as well as cope with their attack.

YW

Danny

Reyes is going no doubt about it. Madrid are just messing around, trying to play hard ball. Ultimately he will be off for about €10 - €12m and I would not be surprised if it is in the next week with both teams in Austria for training camps.

YW

I dont think reyes leaving or staying will change anything for Arsene. I think the one who might affect his plans is freddie. if he stays then we dont bring in a winger, if he goes then we do.
Freddie now wants a £6m pay off from Arsenal. this was very predictable. Why did we sign him to a 4 year contract when he was clearly losing pace and getting injured more often? So Fiorentina might stump up £6m but then every penny of it goes straight to Freddie’s back pocket. The only benefit to Arsenal is the saving on his wages as well as the obvious space in the squad his departure creates. If freddie insists on being paid £6m to leave I will have lost a lot of respect for the man.
mind you we have lost a lot of good older players for free in recent years so another one wont make a lot of difference.

gazzap

Freddie is entitled to the money because it is the Club looking to offload him not the other way around. I don’t see that he is doing anything wrong if this is actually the case. It is no different from you or I being laid off and having another job lined-up in the meantime. You would want all that you were entitled to so why should he not get it?

YW

Yogi

The point i’m making is that Real are playing a half interested game. As in they’re not in love with the player but they’ll take him. It is time to determine the transfer fee by dragging him back to our camp and making the message quite clear that we have options as far as reyes is concerned. As time ticks by without an affirmative course of action, the transfer fee continues to dwindle. Other clubs, that may potentially have shown an interest take up different options ie maybe Athletico commit their budget to Quaresma or Seville fill their open postions. By continuing this slow course of action, by slowly negotiating with Real we play right into their hands. It does not take a rocket scientist to see in all likelihood he will be moving but we are currently allowing Real to dictate the market for this player. When we own this player, gentle negotiations may not be required when A) with have a similar void to fill B) We require top dollar for what is one of our major signings. At this moment in time we appear to be working hard in the interests of the player, I do not believe Reyes service to ourselves comes close to justifying this.

well if he wanted his wages made up to 70k then fair do’s but it sounds like he wants his 2 years worth of 70k from us PLUS his wages from Fiorentina, which at a guess would be lower and might be around 25k per week. If Arsenal effectively made up the difference ie 45k per week then I guess it’s fair enough.

I am still staggered that he was ever put on this sort of wage. its not like we had other clubs clambering after him every summer - he was never a ’star’ player even in his prime. This smells of Dein to me. I understand freddie and DD were friends and its probably jobs for the boys.

I’d be very tempted now to keep Freddie and put him in the stiffs to rot. its his choice. he should either be fair to Arsenal and leave to play regularly elsewhere or rot in reserves at the age of 29. personally I think he knows his best days are behind him and now he’s after as a big a pay day as he can muster and I dont even think he’d care about being in our reserves for 2 years. can I blame him? no not really, it was a bad deal made by someone at Arsenal.

I agree with you Yogi, Freddie deserves his testimonial and at the new stadium that has to be worth quite a bit. not asking to leave and being off loaded is worth 15 - 20 % of the transfer as well so he should be getting £2-3million, payoff not heard where he is asking for £6 million though Gazzap?

yogi-san,

i’m usually in your corner but i can’t buy your logic on the freddie-is-getting-laid-off scenario. if “you or i” were getting laid off, 6 million quid would not be the entitlement. (of course, i don’t know what you do for a living, so maybe you would get that sort of pay out (which begs the question, what does yogi’s warrior do for a living - que faites vous dans la vie?))

having said that, neither do I buy into gazzap’s claptrap about losing respect for freddie “the man”. what, I wonder, do we know about freddie ljungberg the man? i heard his family spend three weeks each year living with polar bears in the north of sweden and that’s where he gets his love of referees from. for partisan football addicts, it’s certainly possible to glean something (perhaps even a lot) about the character of the footballers you watch week in and week out for years on end.
but remember that what we know of them as men is limited, and it’s quite a severe limitation, to what we imagine having watched them play football.

they say senderos reads derrida in his spare time, and does performances of tristan tzara poetry after training. nobody bothers to listen to him except for gary lewin and steve bould, and that’s only because they think he’s teaching them french.

Yogi interesting thoughts however playing the at the back may leave us exposed to long diagonal balls that the poo teams often try. No I still believe a true 4-3-3 similar to the one Barca adopt, not the fake chelski 4-5-1 will suit us in breaking down these stuburn teams.

On the Freddie issue if what i have read in the paper is true I believe he is being greedy, unfortunately an all too common trait with the modern day footballer. Yogi I don’t agree with your comparison with being laid off as he isn’t being laid off or released but transferring to another football team a deal which will probably land him a substantial signing on fee.

On Reyes I say if Real Madrid wont pay what he is worth then bring him back to England and let him rott until someone stumps up what we all know he is worth £10m+

If you have a fixed term contract in an office job but later on the company realises it no longer needs you and you are laid off, does the company have to pay you all or a percentage of the wages you were due until the end of the contract?
And what if your current company found you work at another company on slightly lower wages? would that affect the pay-off?
this is an honest question that I dont know the answer to but its very relevent to the freddie situation.

I am sure Reyes will go. wenger has said as much. I suspect we have a low offer on the table from a spanish club that if the worst comes to the worst wenger will accept.

gazzap

Generally speaking, yes you get your contract paid up. Ordinarily that would be specified as a clause. It is unlikely that they would be able to lower the payout based on future earnings.

Footballers are slightly different because most contracts specify that, for example, signing on fees are paid over the course of the contract. If the player requests a move, they waive their entitlement to them but if the Club sells then he is entitled to the bonus. In Freddie’s case, if he is on £70k per week over four years, his signing on fee for this contract is likely to be in the region of £3m (20% of the Contract value) less what has already been paid but even so that is well on the way towards half of the reputed £6m. The rest may be other bonuses and wages.

YW

Truth is that we paid 750k for Freddie. Even if we had to pay him 6mil to leave he still would have been good business. He’ll be truly missed when he goes. I know he’s past it now but he’s contributed more then most to the cause for us.

I see, thanks for clearing that up

http://www.goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=356273

here is the report about freddie. question is, is it better to keep freddie, pay him his wages totalling £6m over 2 years, hardly play him in the first team and let him leave on a free in 2009 OR sell him to Fiorentina for £5-£6m, give freddie all that cash, but save £6m in wages. The equation is simple, is it worth paying out £6m for a bit part player, albeit a very experienced player?

Its just my opinion but I dont think it is. If we can buy a new young player for £4m and pay him £20k per week (thus overall costing us £6m over 2 years), I’d rather that than keep Freddie for his handful of appearances.

to be fair to wenger, he did bring him into the team last season every time he was fit. its just that he barely lasted 2 games before breaking down each time.

Agreed Dublgun proper excellent player in his prime……..

I think it’s a bit hard on Freddie to be honest. OK so he has not hit the performance level of previous seasons but the past couple of years have been hard for him with injuries.

It seems more than a little harsh of us as supporters to criticise him for wanting to be paid off. He has not asked for a move, indeed wants to honour his contract. It was not that long ago when there were complaints about Henry going and not honouring his contract. You cannot have your cake and eat it.

He has made it clear by that he is willing to stay and fight for his place. AW would like him to stay so he obviously thinks he can do a job. Surely he deserves our respect for having a professional attitude?

Dublgun
we paid 3 million for freddie !

louisa
And I’m not worried about Liverpool despite the big signings. I have a sneaky feeling that Torres (sadly) probably wouldn’t fly as they hope.

FERNANDO TORRES IS RATED BEST YOUNG PLAYER IN EUROPE
91 GOALS IN 200 ODD GAMES .. PRETTY BOLD STATEMENT
HAVE YOU SEEN HIM PLAY? I THOUGHT NOT !

gazzup
Last season it was often Ballack, Lampard, Makalele and Essien. so we are doing much the same thing but with better ball players

COUGH ! i just swallowed my marbles .
who do we own who is better rated than the above??
hleb? rosicky? and dont say fabs , he goes missing against
the chevs !
i would state you are a little off the mark with your assumptions . chevs defence has been lacking last season they have a small problem,but in every other area on paper they are superior in there midfeild recruitment especially. but hopefully robbin will be gone soon ..
this is what i mean about the rose tinted veiw here ..
remember for most of chevs good players it was there first season playing also . dont count out ballack or cheva .
and lamps got more acolades than our whole midfeild
when joined together ! European Footballer of the Year RU
,2005 FIFA World Player of the Year RU,He was also named FWA Footballer of the Year in 2005. RU= runner up to ronaldinho both times..

we finished 4th last season and 21 points off the mark !!

before we start patting ourselves on the back (for some unknown reason) lets just watch the start of the season with fingers crossed ! i know all you tinted wearers feel
a bit of a rush from arsene giving us a pep talk . but remember the truth is again for a 2nd season we are basically relying on the same squad without henry,
and the addition of a 24 year old striker . and also i seem to remember wenger offering us all sorts of promises for the past 2 seasons prior ! call me negative , but i dont think so .

too boast how GREAT WE ARE after having a horrid season last year , and nothing much altered in the squad whilst other teams are pulling in top class european players is a
little bit too optamistic this early in the season.

we need to address some serious issues !
and as the team has been back only a week do you really think weve iron out the below !
1.defending set pieces
2.taking our chances
3.playing with more width
4. consistency against a ‘weaker’ side
5.improving concentration

Oh dear oh dear oh dear

YW
for once we see eye too eye .
i think freddie needed some adjusting to our new team , since our youngsters have been added freddy MUST play differently , like chevchenko and ballack , and i suppose baptista .(they need time and they are 100% professionals ). but
freddy still has alot to offer and hopefully soon our youngsters will gain some experience which can only help freddies game come back to the way of olde !

BAPTISTA
offically today we announced he’s gone ..
so i would expect the reyes issue to be resolved very, very shortly .

frank your an idiot ..
say something constructive ..
i know the truth hurts ..
but this is a forum , of peoples veiws .
and i know you love to read my blogs ..
’cause you all need to hear the truth even if it is only subconsiously. tell me what is off the mark you purple hue lover ( i dont feel like saying rose tinted today ! )

:)

Doublgun do you smoke crack by any chance. ?

Ballack lampard robben are completely shit player’s compared to what arsenal have.

Essien is the only player i rate for chelsea the rest of them are just makeing up the number’s.

We might not have the name’s but as far as quality goes we have chelsea under our thumb.

All the doom and gloom murchent’s out there will be eating there word’s next season.

I think we should have sighned babel to be honest he would be a hell of a player for arsenal but i don’t think he will be a good for the pool.

I think trorres will be a good player for liverpool he will need time to adapt t the premiership but i rate him.

I have heard that royston drenthe is a left winger maybe he could be a good sighning ? But we would have compitition from barca for him.

Re No 44

> YW
> for once we see eye too eye

Oh God, I think I need to lie down.

Ethan,

Its unfortunate that YW doesn’t moderate comments on his blog.
You are ********** and you demonstrate this each time attempt to contribute.
I say “attempt”because each time you comment its nothing but a list of ill-thought nonsense.
Judging by the level of understanding you demonstrate, I doubt that have ever played the game at any level or that you actually watch real football on a pitch (which is where its played by the way; not on TV).
Do us all a favour and find another site; or better still another club

I do edit comments if I catch them in time. Which is why yours was edited.

Simply because we disagree with someone does not mean their views are invalid. Name-calling certainly does, in my opinion, invalidate comments.

If you disagree with Ethan - and a lot people, including myself do - argue with him in an adult manner, and he can do that, otherwise ignore him. But do not deny anyone the right to air their views.

According to the BBC, Robben has agreed Personal terms with Real Madrid.

I wonder where this leaves Reyes as they both play on the Wing.

Also how can they offer a measily 6m when they are prepared to pay 15m for Robben, there is not that much difference between them.

And again we agreed a fee prior to the start of last season, it is not Arsenal’s fault that they benched him all year and de-appreciated him. If he had been in the UK and given our injuries he would have played a key role for us last season and given his talent would now be up for 20m.

I know Football is Business at the end of the day, but I have absolutely no respect left for either Barca or Real Madrid.

As for us, i think Wenger is waiting for the Reyes situation to be sorted out prior to bringing in the Super Class player. Currently he has no choice but to count Reyes as an Arsenal Player and is eventual transfer fee will probably contribute to how super a player he can get

I agree to shy away from the big names, I think Wright-Phillips would be immense for Arsenal and would bring in the much needed goals from Midfield. If not him then Robinho or Di Maria (maybe a bit young though)

Ian-

Whilst it is obvious to most of us than Ethan writes the most outrageous drivel 95% of the time, he seems to believe it himself.

He is absolutely entitled to make his comments as there is normally some nugget that gets us on the keyboard.

Today’s little gem:”dont say fabs , he goes missing against
the chevs !”.

No need to elaborate on that.

It would be easy for him to join the Sunshine Boys on East Lower but we should salute him for gracing us with his presence here.

On second thoughts, is he indeed YW in disguise, as an agent provocateur?

hey call me the grim reaper

But honestly until i see the goods on the pitch , we are still as only as good as our last game,
or season .. seeing is believing ,we can blow the wind up our behinds all day long. but the facts of the matter are ‘we have lost a major major major player TH14′ . and who really knows what the fallout will be ?, we can speculate all off season(which is what we are doing) and id like to thank you all for putting up with the negativity as i know the yogi’s gang is usually looking on the brighter side of life, even if it doesnt exist :) , i appresiate there opinions , so ian middle fingers up son .. with a smile :)

YW
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I think it’s a bit hard on Freddie to be honest. OK so he has not hit the performance level of previous seasons but the past couple of years have been hard for him with injuries.

I AGREE WITH YOU !, ( are you still on your back? :) )

flint
least 5 % is better than nothing :)

i think my shining achievements incude

- predicting henry would leave 4 weeks before he did
(boy i got a bollocking for that)
-predicting arsene needed to sign sooner than later
(to avoid major drama in the camp)YW still avoids that topic
-stating the palaico was some irrate gooner trying to
get under the skin of barca !

that must be the 5 % . :)

I think Real knows we need to offload Reyes somewhere along the way, so they are willing to wait it out till the point Arsenal are willing to let him go on the cheap. Real have no urgent need of him in my opinion especially if they bring Robben in.

I really wish he would just have a change of heart and add some width to our play but I think we’ve gone beyond the point of return.

and for my latest debate..

doesnt anyone think is striange that one minute fabs is talking to real madrid , so much so, that theres numbers like 20 million
flying around , and then straight after that, he states he aint going anywhere , and then states he wants to be captain ?

polar opposite , the full 360 , are statements that ring to mind.
can we honestly trust this kids intentions ?

one thing for sure he loves the media tool to get his point across.

also why are RM paying 24 mil for robbin , yet wont even give us 8-10 mil for reyes ? its starting to look like reyes will be going to the reduced shelf of the supermarket ..

OK, YW. That is it. Thanks for allowing me to contribute. This is an insult. I am off.

Frank, I hope that doesn’t mean you’re not contributing anymore? Your sensible comments would be a loss.

Just sulking, Passenal. I have seen other blogsites descend into moronic soup as a result of ‘anything goes’. Invoking ‘freedom of speech’ is a pretty grand gesture to justify such tripe.

Let me put this in perspective. So far 55k comments have not made it through. Of that 52k have been automatically caught for a variety of reasons and to be honest, I don’t look at it to see why. I have stopped the remaining 3k, including some of Ethan’s for, how can I put, over-exuberant language. I could quite easily have deleted others including Ian’s above which was held for moderation because of the language used.

For those who want active comment moderation. Forget it. I do not have the time to act like a dictator on here; it is supposed to a bit of fun, somewhere to share a view or two. The minute I feel I have to watch it every second of every day, it ceases to be enjoyable.

YW

Yogi I have said it before and i’ll say it again you run an excellent blog. Even tho Ethan thoughts maybe misguided at times he does often make sound points.

I find it refreshing to find inteligent and passionate discussion on topics surrounding Arsenal and football in general.

Keep up the good work

:)

No we don’t want “moronic soup” as Frank quite rightly says.

If someone has something to say that makes sense to them & is not abusive to others or crude, why should they be stopped.

YW seems to have avoided what has happened to Gunnerblog, so far. Long may that continue.

YW, your site, your choice.

As long as people can’t start imitating other posters - I’ll read most but after a while if they are just flogging the same dead horse with nothing new or interesting to add I use my own censorship and skip their posts altogether.

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