Posted by: Yogi's Warrior | June 16, 2007

It’s All A State Of Mind

The weekend has commenced with a new signing. Inevitably, there have been a large number of underwhelmed responses to it, typically wanting the big signings not caring whether the squad is strengthened for the future. Havard Nordveit has signed for a deal that could reach £2m. Not having seen anything of the lad in action, I will take the view of those who have as being a good guide and nobody has made any negative comments about his ability that I have seen.

There seems to be a clamour for a big name to come, reaching a crescendo. We need to bear in mind the timing of everything before you get your boxers into a twist over the supposed inactivity. Firstly, Arsene has just returned from holiday and for him to have signed, sealed and delivered a ‘big’ name in his first week would have been some going. Secondly, a large number of players are on holiday - look at Aliadiere’s move to Middlesbrough; the deal between the Clubs is done, the deal with the player is done but it cannot be finalised until he returns from his break. Thirdly, the Spanish season is still to finish; this isn’t the only market but lets be honest, outside of The Premiership, La Liga and Serie A are the two main stomping grounds for the majority of the big names that you desire us to sign. So, given that half of the Primera Division has something to play for this weekend, it is hardly surprising that nothing of substance has happened there. Lastly, we know Arsene will sign a younger player and with the Under-21 Championship ongoing, there is no way that anything is going to happen with either Babel or Drenthe or anyone else for that matter until their national teams are eliminated or the tournament is over. So it goes back to the point I made the other day, with the window open until the end of August, why the panic?

Well, I can answer my own question to a degree. With Manchester United having completed the majority of their activity before the end of May, it has put a lopsided spin on the Summer. From the media point of view, a major avenue for speculation is closed. United may sign one more player but let’s be honest, their activity was a major shock. I don’t recall a side pulling off all of their deals so soon after a season’s end and I cannot ever remember Arsenal doing so, which is one in the eye for those who believe the reason for all of the speculation and not signing one is because of David Dein’s departure. Even when he was there, we were quiet on the transfer front until either a deal went publicly wrong or someone was signed. It isn’t the Arsenal way.

Despite being frustrated with the Board’s inability to get some positive news out there, and more importantly to control the negative words of some of the players, they have not done anything wrong (yet) to my mind. In any case, lambasting them for no signings misses the point. Arsene is the man in charge of targeting the players but he can contact one hundred clubs about different players yet if those clubs do not want to sell, or sell for the right price, there is no deal to be had. On paper, I am not unhappy that Ribery has gone to Bayern because £17m for him seems an awful lot of money and the same for Malouda. Yes, the Club should be able to spend big but not fritter the transfer fund by being held to ransom. On that front it is worth bearing in mind that there is a limited number of Clubs that the top players want to sign for; Manchester United are now effectively out of the running on a lot of players, Chelsea likewise having signed two good squad players on free transfers. Overseas Chairman now see Arsenal and Liverpool as their main moneyspinners and that is not lost on the media either.

My other suspicion is that Arsene is occupied with shearing what he sees as ‘dead skin’ from the squad, namely Jose Antonio Reyes and I have a feeling, Freddie Ljungberg. The former has made it clear that he is not coming back to the Club but from Monday he is back on the payroll. He needs to (a) reduce the monthly bill and (b) know that he actually has a vacancy to fill. If Reyes cannot find a new home, he has to buy himself out of his contract to be free to move to Spain, which goes back to an earlier point concerning their season’s end. Ljungberg meanwhile, is an expensive squad player who has been unable to regain his previous form levels through injury, primarily. I guess Arsene will not be unhappy to retain him but I believe, and I have no inside knowledge, that if Freddie received a suitable offer, Arsene would not stand in his way.

So now you know why I’m not panicking over the lack of activity. If it makes sense to others and they ‘chill’ a bit more, good. If it doesn’t help, then I suggest a quick trip to the Quack’s to get yourself some Prozac because it is going to be a long Summer for you otherwise.

’til Tomorrow.

Responses

just for the record, arsenal have stated that their willing to let freddie (Ljungburg) go on a free transfer

Anthony

Have they said that officially or is it the paper talk?

YW

I really think making a move for Drenthe would be a good idea. Yes he is young but at the U21 champs he is playing fantastically well on the left wing. But the real kicker is that he is a left back for his club and thus would solve the problem we had last season when Clichy was injured. I know you should never judge purely on a major tournament but i’m going to do exactly that.

Jimmy

It’s funny but I’d not seen anything of the lad before the tournament but thought he looked useful. I’m trying to think of the last player Arsene signed based on an International Tournament but at this early hour, I know he has and I can’t think who.

The one who sprang immediately to mind is Karel Poborsky who scored a cracker at Euro 96 and a season later was widely labelled as a ‘pony’

YW

The trouble is YW, those with the intelligence to take a step back and think things through know this. The knee-jerkers just cannot see sense no matter what. They demand instant gratification, which will never be satisfied.

Personally I’m very glad to have such an honourable man as our manager. Whether he stays or goes at the end of next season he is still continuing to build for the future of our club by picking up promising young talent when he has the opportunity. I trust him to also do what’s right for the present after he has solved the ‘Reyes situation’.

As things stand there is only one spot to fill at Arsenal and that’s left midfield. That can’t be solved until Reyes destiny is sealed. He still has 4 years left on his contract and if I understand it correctly he is not able to buy himself out for another year having completed 3 years of his 6 year agreement. It must be very unlikely but not impossible that Reyes will come back for another season, rebuild his reputation and win a transfer to a decent Spanish side. While that slim possibility still exists Wenger cannot and will not commit himself to another left midfielder. Wenger did say that he is looking to appoint a ‘director of football’ after 1st July once any transfers had been completed. The expectation should be that Reyes will be sold by the end of the month and my betting is his replacement has already been agreed ‘in principle’ and that the two transactions will be announced simultaneously. After that we will have only the Henry saga to spend the rest of the summer on.

As far as I’m aware, the last adult (as opposed to youth) player that Arsene may have signed on the strength of a tournament performance was Gilberto Silva, following the 2002 World Cup…although he may have known all about him
beforehand.

That makes sense Amos, he has apparently already met with Atletico and if he did meet with Barcelona it could have been about someone coming here.

I dont get why people think we should sign Drenthe instead of Babel. there’s no way that Drenthe is better than Babel. a signing can not be based on just 2 games. and keep in mind, the last dutch winger to perform brinliantly on a youth tournament stage in Holland was Quincy! and we all know how he ended up. I’m not saying that Drenthe is not a good player, but certainly Babel is better. and babel is fotballwise more matured than Drenthe. I live in Amsterdam and I would like to see Babel an Arsenal shirt. because it is always a plesure to watch him play.

No he will never sign Drenthe on the back of a tournament i agree. He will only come if he is a player Arsene had been watching already. Hleb for example was scouted for about 2 years before we signed him. I suppose i am swayed by the positional versatility he offers. There has been a lot of musical chairs at left back in the last couple of seasons and i don’t think it’s helped us not to have any natural cover. Personally i would very much like to see Babel in an Arsenal shirt.

Amor: Would you classify Babel as more of a natural centre forward of a natural wide midfield player? You’ve undoubtedly seen more of him than me. In the U21 tournament he is playing as a lone front man so i was just wondering.

Weird, Anthony, because I remember Arsenal/Arsene saying that they wanted to keep Freddy because he’s a ‘winner’. That’s the only official word out of the club that I’ve heard in the past few months.

Good piece by the way

Nothing to disagree with there YW.

Good comments too, specially from Passenal & Amos.

I think Quincy was at a under 17 tounament not u21s. There is quite a difference.

AW has said he always knows about the players well before a tournament. Pires chose to come to Highbury during the Europeans of 2000 but that must have been set up beforehand.

There is a lot we commoners don’t know about the workings of a transfer. I would imagine the MU signings had been set up for many months & could be announced now because of the market they were purchasing from.

A name that has been thrown up as available would interest me - Eidur Gudjonsen (spelling?). Could play the DB10 roll - not as well but then who could.

Another would be Bouazza of Watford. I was impressed with his strength, tenanacity with no mean skill.

For what I have seen of them Malouda & Ribery are just not £17m players. Decent players but it is absurd to spend that on the unexeptional talents.

Finally, a really good sensible post!

Everywhere I go in blogland is crowded with hysterical muppets panicing over the fall of Arsenal.

Good to see opinions are considered and thoughfull put down.

In my opinion Wenger is considering moving Henry on this Sumemer. And I believe that if he can get Eto in the deal he knows that it will greatly soften the blow of loosing our King.

He admited making a mistake when PV left without replacing him with an experienced international. He cannot afford to do this again.

Personally I am confused about one thing, where does AW see RVP playing the majority of his games this year? AS striker or left wing?
I know he played left wing in a 5 man mid field in Europe with rosicky/ Fab in the middle and helb on the right and Da Silva the anchor man.
But in the league at times he played up front with Henry and other times on the wing.

The Sun: Shaun Wright Phillips can leave Chelsea for 10 mill pounds.
Now, granted this is the Sun, but if the player indeed was available, would he be a good buy for The Arsenal?
Good post Yogi. Man Utd have certainly lit a fire under a lot of seats with their buying spree. Skittish fans need to hold their horses till the window closes.
Fan as I’m of Freddie, I do think that on balance his wages are currently a drag on our books.
As fellow posters have pointed out, the Norveidt signing speaks for where Arsene’s commitment to the club. I can’t help think sometimes that some of our fellow supporters don’t fully appreciate how good we’ve had it with, and under, Wenger. Sure, we may not agree with everything he’s done or will do, but on balance we have enjoyed the services of a top manager over the last decade. It is time for the fans to cultivate some perspective.

just a point about van persie. He may be left footed but he is never a left winger. when he plays up front he always drifts to the right because he then likes to cut inside and hit his left footed curling shots. That right corner of the penalty area is by far his favourite place to gravitate to. When he drops too deep he is never as effective and tends to get frustrated. He’s a quality forward but an average winger. If anywhere he can play on the right-hand side of a front 3 like he does for Holland.

Agree Jimmy, RVP could do a Pires on the right.

He is not a natural winger but he could do a Hleb but have the shot to go with it. That ,I believe is the role he plays for Holland.

A freeish role, like Pires, would suit him. He is not really an out & out CF.

It would also free Hleb to play a role which might suit his playmaking skills better.

Don’t know about SWP but I would have thought there is better about for £10m, or even less.

“but on balance we have enjoyed the services of a top manager over the last decade”

There is no balance to consider, Karthic, Arsene has been absolutely fantastic for the club.

Long may his vision, which unfortunately too many spoilt individuals cannot appreciate, continue to benefit AFC.

i see Van persie on the right side of a three man attack.. to have in on the right wing of a four man midfield would give him too much defensive responsibility. I do agree about Hleb, it is so obvious where he wants to be as he is always drifting inside. The only problem with having him in the centre is that he doesn’t carry enough of a goal threat so i’m not quite sure how he could be accomodated. Centrally behind a two man attack? I think that would leave us very narrow.

Does anyone think that, it would be good to sign a player who, for all intents and purposes, was an out and out striker/poacher? Someone who can finish off the numerous mo0ves made by the team? Someone who would not necessarily need to be ‘Arsenal Class’ by that I mean, technically gifted, but someone who is hungry, determined, single minded in their quest to stick the ball in the nert, with what ever part of their body they seem fit; feet, knee, head, arse, elbow (without the ref seeing).

Somone like Wrighty.

Plus, I think we would be wasting RvP’s immense talents by sticking him anywhere other than up front (unless we were full of injuries), with the above mentioned poacher.

We’ve been looking for that player for a long time. It’s the reason we signed Jeffers and Wenger declared he wanted a “fox in the box”. He was burned a bit by Jeffers and i really can’t see us signing that kind of player again, unless he is also a world class all round player.

I think Hleb could offer a goal threat and be even more effective if deployed on the left where he has licence to cut in and shoot on his right foot…at Portsmouth he played there and always looked dangerous…RVP could then be played on the right, while Rosicky could play in his natural central attacking role…At the start of the season we played this formation except RVP was played on the left and never looked comfortable…It will interesting to see Wenger revert back to this 4-3-3 with the slight changes I have mentioned…This would ofcourse lessen the need for any major signings and displays the strength we already have in our squad.

Flint,
Re: SWPhillips: I agree with your assesment. But I’m afraid we’re in an environment where even a jackass will cost good money to buy.
Re: Wenger, Yes, there is no balance to consider. I was adopting too accomodating a tone perhaps. For the quality of football we deliver, for the way the sporting side of the club has been remodelled, and for the financial prudence Arsene has always exercised, he’s peerless. Yes, I share your wish that he be with us for a long time to come, and not necessarily only as a manager.
As I’ve said before I’d like Arsenal to win the European cup under his ward.
We’ll see.

cheeky blooming spammer

bloody spam

Jimmy

They are indeed spammers. But they get caught in the end.

Enjoy your evening

YW

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Every day that goes by, I’m more and more excited about the new season. Whether TH14 goes or stays doesn’t matter, really. If we keep him and he’s fit, we have one of the top five players in the world… and if he goes, doubtless it will only happen with Eto’o coming in the other direction. In which case we’d still have one of the top five players in the world. We’ll also have RVP fit and ready to skewer opposing goalies with his magic left foot. I’m convinced RVP will compete for the scoring title in the EPL this year: it will be truly his breakout season. Denilson and Diaby have shown flashes of absolute brilliance and can only be better. Same for Theo (with the new and improved bionic shoulder!). Gallas will have had a year to settle… Clichy who was absolutely brilliant last year will take the step up and earn the title of World’s Best Left Back this year. No World Cup hangover this year either… This season is going to be amazing, Gooners! The only thing that scares me, really, is injury. I just hope we can get through the campaign without too many lost games by our players.

good points yogi , but as too your statement that so far the board hasnt done anything wrong? i have 2 words for you .. DAVID DEIN. this is how all this crap started .

arsenes not commited now, and then henry starts to rethink his steps..
and then that little spaniard comes out and says he plays for arsene football club . Also there is a rumour surfacing that THE BOARD has OK’ed arsene selling henry !
id say that was a bit of a black spot on your statement, also another rumour is arsenes pee’ved with the board over lack of funds issued to him ..

And you know how big name signings work ( look at hardgraves, ballack, sheva etc.. ) they romance eachother
for weeks , months prior .. fergie says this , hardgraves says that, then bayern give in etc..

Arsene hasnt commented on any player .and other than babel weve heard sod all !
. and if there were any player who is crazy enough to join us when weve had so many setbacks .. (senior players leave at a steady flow over 2 years,
henry leaving rumours , fabs statements, and arsene refusing to commit his future to arsenal) I WONDER WHY !!!

i think the real reason we havnt signed anyone is we havnt got any funds to spend until we sell henry and re-coupe cash for reyes .. thats why nothings happened yet. thats why reyes quoted im just consentrating on my games left at REAL . probly cause we probed him on what is he doing ?! and he does like talking to the papers to get his message heard !

But i definately agree that alot of top clubs are still IN SEASON . and we wont hear much until monday onwards..

but we havnt romanced ANY big names either, usually most managers will plant seeds for the player to consider ..

when arsene does finally get some funds from reyes and Aliadiere and probly henry it will be interesting to see who he does target !

magic hat ? why on EARTH would ETO leave barcalona !?!?
you are truely talking crap ! the difference is henry if he goes
will go because he wants to leave and we are left with no other choice but to take 20 mil.. in compensation

Why on gods sweet earth have you got it in your mind that eto wants to leave barca, you will find there coach will probly leave before there top players do ! and RVP is a striker . he is a point and shoot striker plain and simple , id like to see him on runs beating defenders but its not part of his game, well at least not yet . I do agree hes definately the best support striker we have .. but you might as well leave freddie on the right wing .. cause RVP on the right isnt an option ! theo is the main hope i have , and hleb .

and marcelo is the best future left back he is the new roberto carlos

There are other ways of doing it Steve without it having to be splashed all over the media.

We just have to be patient , forget these totally unsubstantiated rumours & see what happens.

I think you are seeing things a tad too black.

nar man im just being realistic .. i dont wear these rose tinted glasses thinking all is rosey , because loosing the best striker in the world is pretty hard to take .and even when we had him we finished something like 20 + points away from the title race
last season . and id say its almost certain that henry is going .. you will see it come to fruition this week ..
like yogi said we havnt signed anyone beacause la liga is still
cranking . but it has the reverse affect also , nothing about the henry saga will also happen until this week comming either! its a double edged sword ..

Im sorry if you think that finishing 4th for the past to seasons is acceptable ! but i want more for my team !!!

also wenger said after 4th spot the year before that our
youngsters will turn it around .. next season , your eating the same garbage that he told us last year ..

WE NEED MORE PLAYERS OF EXPERIENCE !
DIDNT YOU LISTEN TO HENRY AND GALLAS
THEY ARE ON THE PITCH !
I THINK THEY KNOW BETTER THAN YOU OR I !

one thing of interest .. a headline stated fat sam is preparing for life without micheal owen !? he cant be going to liverpoo?
and chelsea + man U im sure arnt interested either!!?

it cant be us can it ?? spurs??
so much for nothing transfer wise happens :)

I suppose we all think we are realists !!

One thing that really worries me is a major international tournament. I am very wary of people watching something like an under 21 tournament, and declaring exactly who we should buy based upon two matches, which some people do. Wenger has a habit of tracking players for at least a year, which comforts me.

Remember players such as Diouf and Poborsky looked world beaters on the big stage, but actually they just played particularly well in those few matches.

This is why I tend to dismiss much of the Drenthe talk. I’m sure some people know more about him, but I get the impression many are suggesting we sign him having seen him play for a maximum of 180 minutes.

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