Posted by: Yogi's Warrior | April 13, 2007

Signing ‘Big’ Is Not The Answer

In the midst of a poor run, everyone’s mind turns to what would improve the squad and where its all gone wrong. It seems that Arsene’s view that he would quite happily turn up for next season with the same squad is not universally popular. Most people want to see a couple of new faces in the Summer, to bring experience and to increase competition for places where it is perceived none, or very little, exists.

To fund the extensive wishlists would make even Abramovich blanche. To fund some of them would make the Arsenal Board tighten their sphincters just a little. Yet why do we expect Arsene to buy ‘big’ in the Summer? He has rarely done so in the past and those who have cost more than Rosicky have rarely fared well in any of his squads. For every success such as Henry, there have been numerous ‘average’ or ‘bad’ buys. Even Henry was not a big name when he arrived; expensive but not a big name. Jeffers was a complete flop. You can use your own judgement on players such as Wiltord and Reyes.
Arsene has recently been quoted as saying that there will not be any ‘big’ signings in the Summer, something to try to quell a clamour that he is probably aware that of. It begs the question as to why?  Is it because he is happy with the squad. Yes, to a degree but more likely he knows that he has enough trouble rotating the squad with the existing personnel rather than the suggestion that he cannot ‘handle’ the egos that come as baggage with spending money. It is easier on him to keep ‘younger’ players happy in a rotation programme, resting them as he sees fit, not pandering to them as he would need had they more games under their belts.

The other issue is that he is trying to build a youth policy to allow them to progress. One of the complaints of players such as Sidwell and Pennant is that they could not break into the Arsenal side, displacing Vieira and Ljungberg in their prime was only going to happen if an exceptional talent came through, neither of those two were that. This time though, whilst the younger players are not ‘homegrown’ they are for the most part, from within the ranks. And it is that element that I believe Arsene does not want to destroy.

At the end of this season, Fabregas will have completed two full seasons in the first team squad. He is being held up as an example for the others to follow, a path that is available if someone is good enough. Does it mean though that Arsene should spurn the opportunity to sign an experienced player? It seems so in his public persona and I suspect that there is an element of that in his thinking. He comes across as an ‘all or nothing’ kind of manager. He either fervently believes in a path or else it is not worth pursuing. Such single-mindedness is about the only common trait across all of the top coaches. They achieve results through different methods but they are ‘blinkered’ when it comes to getting to their end result.

Personally, I would say we need more experience. More leadership than is currently available. For the most part, this team is probably easy to captain. However, at the moment there is no-one individual with the force of personality or seemingly tactical nous to make changes on the pitch. A great captain needs one or both of those traits. This is not about anything other than character, not nationality, only the individual. Gilberto does not exude that nor does Henry. Toure could be able to do this but is not able to at the moment for whatever reason whilst making Lehmann captain is not a path I would follow, nothing against the Mad Monk more that a Goalkeeper cannot influence anything more than the midfield when the ball is in play. To do so means that the message comes through another player, losing the impact of the ‘Captain speaking’ directly to individual(s).

With Arsenal’s policies of (a) leaving Arsene to get on with the job and (b) not publicly discussing transfers before a deal is done, it is hard to assess the relationship that the Board have with the manager, other than knowing that they trust him. But should one of them step up to the plate and tell him that in their collective opinion more experience would help him. More to the point though, would he listen? You cannot force a manager to buy a player. Lesser interference than that has forced some peers to re-consider their position. If Arsene does not want to buy then he will not. If he believes that he can replenish the squad without spending ‘big’ then so be it. Much depends on the definition of ‘big’ that you use. Certainly when you see the prices quoted for players such as Villa and Eto’o, then Arsene would never be able to fund a bid for either of those without removing several players from the current squad; several established first teamers, such as Gallas, Toure, Fabregas. Would it be worth it? Not in my opinion.

Should he buy experience in the Summer. Well, yes I think he should but no more than two, perhaps three. There are deficiencies in the Squad yet the injuries have been severe this time around, hampered by the two key forwards at the Club being out for a sustained period of time. Can Arsene afford to ignore this spell, be almost complacent that it will not happen so badly next time round? I do not think so. RvP should heal his foot if the Club are sensible with his rehabilitation without further recurrenceof the injury. Henry is another kettle of fish. His injuries are wear and tear, the sort that should clear up but the nagging doubt in my mind is that they will not fully do so, likely to flare up again in the future. If one of them is struck down next season, we could find ourselves in the same rut all over again and can the Club afford to suffer this particular ‘Groundhog Day’?

Responses

Good article, but I do think we need some transfer activities in the summer.

1. Get rid of players that we don’t need. There are way too many CENTRAL midfielders in the teams right now, and they are getting into each other’s way. Playing Diaby on the wing is just outrageous, and to a lesser extent, Hleb and Rosicky. All need to stay in the middle to excel.

2. We need wingers that can score and cross. Walcott/Traore on left and Eboue on right? I’d fancy that, for now.

3. The verdict on Baptista is still out there, in my opinion. Reyes is more skillful, but you can’t get a guy that hate London to play for us. As much as I like Freddie and Aliadiere, they need to leave, for the sake of them and the club.

I don’t think Arsene and Arsenal can look back at what have happened this season and say we don’t need new blood into the squad. I don’t need big signings, but someone that can have a positive impact on the squads future.

He bought 11 players before 1997-98 season. He saw that the squad wasn’t up for it, and did some very important purchases. I think he has lost some of that part of his insight into the game. Buying can lift the others so that they perform better than they did this year.

We need someone like Petit or Edu in the squad again. Players that are pure class and at the same time not so egocentric that they need to play every game, but can see that Fab and Gil are a good team. The essensiell thing is that they need competition as well as a breather once and a while.

I didn’t like to see Song go out on loan in the transfer window. He could have been pushing for a place after a good run in the League Cup. Why Wenger wants to loan out our young players so that our squad is so slim that we can’t replace any injured players, i don’t know.

I think that squad depth has something to do with squad quality. We need to have a squad that can handle the loss og TH14 and RvP, as well as Fab for that matter. At the moment we haven’t got a squad that can replace players like Hleb and Ljungberg in their crap form that they’re showing. That is a big problem.

Let’s hope we keep up the good youth policy as well as buy one or two players that can bolster this squad.

We dont really need to sign ” Big” but maybe sign practical . at the moment , and for a while now we have become tooooo predictable ie flowing football with no end product and no importance placed on corners , throw ins , or fee kicks .
I think we may need a couple of ” Bruisers ” we can call on if plan A is not working . ie big man in the box we can aim for when the chips are down .

disagree
he does need to spend

fred, slow and goalless
gilberto, increasingly unnoticable
aliadiare, one goal in 9 years
baptista-do me a favour
adebayor, show him where the barn door is, he wont hit it on his own
walcott- lightweight
hleb, no end product of any sort
eboue, cant defend

we JUST made CL last eyar due to spurs bug, we struggle again. last year exucse was youngsters and injuries, this IS groundhogday

we have no bite, no leader no strikers, no pace on the wings

are we going to wait for AW ego to drag us down to 7th before he comes of his pedastal for some fans

It is obvious to me that Arsene’s coments, that he will not buy big, have been made as a smoke screen for two reasons: first it lowers the expectations of future selling clubs of asking for too much when the time comes and secondly it sends the message to the existing players that they are trusted . After all Arsenal is fighting for 4th place now. He needs the players to respond

we play great football but can’t score, we’ve lost our 2 best forwards and they are both prone to injury so it will happen again.

Re-sign Anelka, he loves Arsenal, made a mistake but also made us £22.5 million, so bury your pride Arsene.

Buy Akinfeev or Craig whatshisname from Hearts and swap Reyes with Danni Alves from Seville.

Julio I think will come good, but not for the money it would cost us, Adebayor I like but he’s hardly prolific.

Get rid of Freddie, Song, Flamini, Lehman and Hleb. Freddie has been a great servant but he has had his day.

Gilberto must stay, he has heart and he’s Arsenal through and through, keep Gallas too.

So we don’t need much and what we do need won’t cost us much, but it won’t happen so I don’t know why I bothered to write this!

OK lets be honest we all know the players in our squad that are below par. If we look at the players we could clear out we would have enough room, wages and money to get the areas strengthened we need.

Here are the players I would clear out.
1. Lehman - is already gone I think.
2. Almunia - No 2 at best and personally I prefer Poom.
3. Eboue - possibly a better right winger but mainly a liability and embarrassment.
4. Freddie - Love the guy but deserves not to be sitting on the bench every week.
5. Aliadiere - Never taken his loads of chances.
6. Baptista - Money could be better spent elsewhere.
7. Muamba - Good player but not sure he will ever get into the squad.
8. Bendtner - Fed up with hearing he could be the next best thing, especially from the lad himself. Bad attitude will ask for a transfer in 1-2 years anyway.
9. Song - not good enough for our midfield.
10. Gallas - If reports are to be believed has handed in a transfer request already, good riddance moany chelsea git.

Look at all those players, we have cover for all their positions and with the money we would make from the sales we could buy the following.

1. Goalkeeper - Scott Carson.
2. Center back. - Woodgate
3. Decent right full back. - Any ideas?
4. A combative midfielder. - Veiria wants to come home!
5. A goalscorer. - Alfonso Alves is tearing up the league in Holland check him out but may be too expensive, Personally I would buy Anelka cheap and still great and if we get 1-2 seasons out of him we will still have made money on him!!

5 new players that would bolster the squad. But we have to buy sensibly.

Does anyone know if Carlos Vela is coming to actually join us this season?

As I have advocated strongly during this season Arsene should consider buying Anelka. I am glad that there are others out there who think likewise.
Anelka has all the footballing ingredients that we need. His difficult amd moody character only Wenger knows how to handle

My concern is that if he doesnt get the balance right with Experience and Youth next year, and we again come away with no real challenge, where will that leave the likes of Fabregas. Barca and Real will be knocking again and everyone has their limit when loyalty fades to get the success elsewhere.

I would like one major signing, I believe that we should send Baptista back, he is not worth anywhere near the 10+m quoted. We are short of money so that coupled with the funds in for Reyes (if its not Madrid he will go back to Sevilla) we could possible secure someone like Etoo or Klose. I would actually accept Tevez, he now has that year of Premiership experience, and if we could get two of those in with Baptista and Ali out it would be superb with Bendtner as the 5th Striker.

as for the wingers, I like Hleb but he seems to get dizzy about 20 yards out, but why not revive the interest in Wright-Phillips, he is very quick very attacking and scores goals. And Maybe Van der Vaart for the middle, again he scores goals and could be the addition to or back up for Fabregas

To be honest I am happy at the back, we are not shipping loads of goals (Liverpool aside), and if Gallas shuts up and develops his partnership with Toure all the better. Right back Eboue (Sort out your discipline) and Clichy finish off quite a strong back four

I was pretty down after Wengers comments yesterday, I understand the need not to inflate the market and deflate the players, but he needs to remember that we are the 12th man and sometimes he has a habbit of deflating us, maybe he should choose his words better

Just a quick thought does anyone know if Bolton are staying at the Marriott hotel on Friday night??

haha….#10 DREW… Good job (poisoning tottenham) for what you did last season for Arsenal! Need your help again this season!

Good article.. However, I do disagree on a couple of points. Everyone seems to think that there is no experience in this side. It certainly is a young side, but we have guys like Gallas and Toure at the back, we have Gilberto and Freddie in midfield and we have Henry up front. Compared to a lot of teams this is not much, but what would you prefer? 8 or 10 experienced players pushing 30, sprinkled with a couple of youngsters?
There is no doubt that this season has been a massive disapointment, but we shouldn’t be painting all black pictures just yet. I think this team is very close to realising its full potential, and next season we will win at least one trophy, of that I am certain.

Spending money on Baptista would probably be the worst thing Wenger could do, given what he has shown so far. His first touch is that of a three-year-old, his shooting is worse than Freddies, and don’t even get me starting on decision-making…
I think it is about time AW realises that Aliadiere never became the player he had hoped for. He has tried in quite a few clubs now, but can’t get regular first team football anywhere else, so why should he at Arsenal?
I would love it if AW decided to play Robin wide left, and buy another striker eg. Huntelaar. It would make sense,as our wide players have been vaccinated from scoring goals (and so has our strikers bar TH14 and RVP).
Ribery has been mentioned a few times, but to be honest I think it is much more likely that AW buys the NEXT Ribery, and we will have to live with Hleb another season. And I don’t mind, I actually enjoy watching Hleb play. He has had a few bad games now, but in form, he is sensational!

Don’t know if any of this makes any sense, just rambling on here, but.. Let’s hope and pray that Arsenal will have an open position next year for someone skilled in polishing silverware!!!!!

I think one of the reasons why many fans are calling for Arsena to spend big is because you can’t replace the Pires + Freddie (2001-2005) on the cheap. Although Rosi’s a very good player in his own right and an infinitely superior player to the inept Hleb, he’s no Pires or Freddie in the goalscoring stakes.

With the lack of goals from midfield a crucial factor in our season ending in March, Wenger needs to address this immediately or we’ll face a 3rd ‘transitional’ season.

If you spend big, it generally means you are buying a finished article. A finished article or two this summer can really help push us on. There isn’t a great deal of difference between us and the rest of the Big 4 but we’ve seen our weaknesses cruelly exposed this season.

Woogy, geoff & Drew - you boys need to step away from Football Manager and Youtube.

Jeez, everyone’s a world class scout and coach these days aren’t they?

Veggis - Re Baptista. Wenger’s seen him week in and week out for the past 7 months. If he decides to buy Baptista then who are you to question Le Boss?

No-one saw what Wenger saw in Song but by all accounts, Song has performed very well for Charlton. It’s not saying much to say he’s the best central midfielder at the relegation threatened club but it shows that Wenger knows what he’s looking for.

Also, Drew - 1. Check out what Bruce said about Muamba after the Burnley game. 2. Bendtner talks himself up because he knows he’s good. He hasn’t quite been the same player since his injury but if you watched/followed The Championship then you’d know why he’s highly rated.

Goon - World Class? no, coach? yes. Sorry but I really am and I haven’t played football manager since the c64!!! Anyway whats wrong with discussing who we may like at the club?

Drew - It’s unrealistic. You’re an Arsenal fan and I’m sure you’ve been a Gooner for years; as such, you know Wenger’s MO. On this basis, can you see Wenger ripping his squad apart and a summer turnover of 15 players?

Of course not.

That sort of thing only happens on Football Manager.

There’s not a great deal wrong with discussing things but let’s keep it within the realms of reality otherwise it’s pointless.

Realistically, the only signings AW will make this summer are to replace anyone who leaves where there is not existing cover already in the squad, i.e. Lehmann & Ljungberg.

He may well be looking at Alex Song as cover for Flamini. The only issue then will be if he decides to sign a wide player for either of the flanks; personally, I think for next season he will use Walcott there if Hleb is not available or out of form for the right hand side so he then needs to decide if he wants someone for the left, an area where we are lacking width.

I very much doubt that he will sign another forward unless he decides not to pursue his option of signing Baptista on a permanent basis.

Guys, lets face it last season we saw , Pires, Campbell, Bergkamp, Quincy, Reyes, Stokes, Lauren, Larrson, Ryan Smith, Stack, Cygan and Micheal Jordan leave the club and 6 of those were strong first team squad members. So the precedent is there for us to have a large clearout of players.

Admittedly a few of those wanted to go Campbell, Cole and Reyes. But so do some of our current squad Gallas for one is reported to have handed in a transfer request!

So why not? Its not just in the realms of video games that things like this happen. Also it will be hardly decimating the squad getting rid of the players on loan this season.

Some good comments here and mainly realistic.

I think that it is unlikely that anyone will come in without some going out. Not just for money reasons but AW has said the squad is perhaps too large.

It is hard to believe that Baptista & Aliadiere will be here next year simply because they were not played at Newcastle,where we needed fresh strikers. If AW cannot trust them in our current situation what would be the point of keeping them?

So with presumably Bentner to come back there may be room for a new striker.

There may be a biggish signing or two to freshen things up but who knows?

Its going to be a long long summer?

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