Posted by: Yogi's Warrior | January 17, 2007

15% – The Root Of All Football’s Evils

Think about it. If it is not an Agent (Mr 15%) agitating for a move or offering a bung, then something like winning 15% of your games gets you relegated. Having more than 15% of your squad injured at anyone time causes inconsistent performances; drawing 15% of your home games seriously shags up a title challenge. And failing to give your opponents their 15% ticket allocation leads to an unseemly squabble rather akin to watching two six year olds fight in a school playground.

Arsenal have been drawn into an unedifying spat over ticket allocations for the Carling Cup Semi – Finals. The club are refusing to give Tottenham more than 5,000 tickets under advisement from the Football Licencing Authority. The competition rules state that each club must hand over 15% of the Grounds capacity to their opponents supporters so Tottenham are being short-changed by 4,000 tickets. Instead of maintaining the moral high ground, Tottenham jumped into the row both feet first and are fighting fire with fire. At the moment, Arsenal are only being given an initial allocation of 3,000 tickets for the match at White Hart Lane to maintain parity on percentage terms. This means that tickets for the first leg cannot be completely allocated until six days before the match and the reality is on sale probably five days beforehand.

And I have to say that on the face of it, Arsenal are in the wrong. They have known that there is a possibility of meeting Tottenham since the draw was made a few weeks ago and should have already resolved this issue with the FLA in order to find a solution to give Tottenham their full allocation.

This whole situation is totally wrong. The competition rules are known to the clubs, the Police and the FLA before it starts and surely one of the conditions of participation is that you adhere to the rules? All of us can probably remember when we have been to games in the past as away fans where you have struggled to get a ticket because of horrendously low allocations? Arsenal claim that segregating the fans safely is not possible in The Emirates. If that is the case, then surely they will be suing the Architects for around £100m on the basis that the end product is not fit for purpose. Certainly, heads must roll, the Project Manager being the prime candidate and the Managing Director would do the honourable thing and follow suit. If, of course, that is the real reason. Doubt has to be cast upon this for the club have given Bolton Wanderers their full allocation for the forthcoming FA Cup Fourth Round tie. And yes, you have guessed correctly, they have been given 9,000 tickets or 15% of the Stadium’s capacity.

The club claim to have a whole raft of paperwork from the FLA supporting their argument; sadly it just came across as the Directors looking for something to hide behind. And I am not sure why they have chosen to follow this course of action. I fully appreciate the difficulties in segregation and no-one is under the illusion that this is there for anything other than a damned good reason. A showcase game, local derby, deciding match in a Semi Final; it is little wonder that keeping the supporters apart is high on the list of priorities. After all, football has worked hard with other bodies to clean up its image and the last thing it wants is it to be tarnished. Again. Or for reasons other than corruption. However, every other ground and Police Force are capable of separating supporters and managing a game successfully. Are Arsenal and the Metropolitan Police that incompetent that they cannot do so? Or has the fundamental flaw in The Emirates design come to the surface? The answer to both is no. More truth can probably be found in the anger felt within the former Marble Halls about the damage caused after the Premiership game between the two; Arsenal may have made Tottenham cough up for the repair work but they want a quiet life. The Met, despite charging their handsome fees, want the same. The easiest solution is to limit the number of visiting fans. Or so they thought. Instead they have both made a right Royal cock-up of it all.

The Football League Board meet tomorrow to decide the outcome although it is difficult to see how they can fail to back Arsenal. If the FLA / Met Police want there to be only 5,000 Tottenham Fans at the game, then that is all there will be for both have the ability to postpone the match. I doubt that they would because it will lead to all sorts of political problems but to overrule them could create future issues for the FL. However, I hope they do “side” with Tottenham for one other aspect of this comes to mind; the atmosphere should be good although as it is The Emirates then nothing can be taken for granted. Surely though, in part, that is created by the inclusion of away support in the ground? Whilst they are not solely responsible for it, a bit of ribaldry and spirited banter between the two sets of fans makes for a better occasion?

Did I say Tottenham could claim the moral high ground? Ah, I did. I was wrong because they let Daniel Levy open his mouth which instead of allowing all of the oppobrium be heaped upon Arsenal, he decided to dictate to Arsenal what their ticket pricing policy should be, allowing an equal amount of flak or whatever you want to call it, to be thrown in his clubs direction. His motivation is clear; if Arsenal follow their usual pricing policy, Tottenham lose out financially. At the root cause of all problems, money is there poking its head above the surface, shouting, “Only Me!”. It is fairly apparent that Tottenham are out to maximise Revenues, as is their perogative as a listed Company and not a Charity. However, Levy has overstepped the mark when he believes that the visiting club are able to dictate to the home club what their ticket prices should be. Would he be criticising Wycombe for their pricing policy had they been the opponents? Did he criticise Cardiff for their pricing policy in the FA Cup Third Round? Both games where incidentally his coffers would be considerably emptier than a visit to The Emirates. No, he has seen that he could be getting over £1m from the away leg and now the club have realised that it could be diminished by up to £250k depending on how much the average ticket price drops to. Pure greed on Tottenham’s part with no thought whatsoever about the fans pockets. What he has conveniently forgotten to mention is that when they are given their full allocation, 9000 Tottenham fans benefit from the drop in prices.

However, his choice of words allows Arsenal a polite way to tell him where to take a running jump to on this issue. He asked that they follow their “usual pricing policy”. So let them do so; reduce the prices for the Carling Cup as they have done for a number of seasons. It is a credit to Arsenal that they want to continue pursuing this reduced pricing policy. There are a lot of clubs, I suspect, who would have taken the attitude that they will charge Business As Usual prices for the tickets simply because it is a semi-final. Arsenal have resisted this, rewarding those who have attended previously. Provided of course they can get hold of a ticket.

Anyway, that’s all for today unless some blockbusting news story hits the stands in which case I may pop back.

Below is a reminder of happier times and more cordial relations between the clubs; you know when Tottenham insisted on letting us win 2 – 1 at “The Lane”; David Rocastle’s winning goal the last time these two sides met in the League Cup Semi – Finals.


Responses

  1. Hi YW, you have obviously done the research and put a lot of thought into this. One point though..I read that the FLA and Met Police would not let Arsenal use the full allocation of 9000 away seats for the first time in a high risk situation, and that the Tottenham game fitted that description. So after we have shown that the ’system’ works in less volatile circumstances – then it will be possible to host 9000 Tottenham fans in the future.

    I might add that this argument between the two clubs is a sure way of putting the game into the ‘high risk’ category.

    Not part of the argument because I know that rules must be obeyed no matter how fatuous… but in terms of parity if the 15% rule was applied that would mean less than 5000 Arsenal supporters will go to White Hart Lane and 9000 Spurs supporters would come to the Emirates. It also means that 4000 less Arsenal fans get to see the home game (at reduced prices).

    I know your comment was ‘tongue in cheek’ but I think that the Project Management of the new build was exemplary.

    Not sure what Arsenal have done wrong here.

  2. Spot on in my eyes CLF. Of course as Frank says there may be conditions of which we are unaware, but neither club comes out of this spat looking good. Keep up the good work.

  3. Frank

    There has to be a problem with the stadium if they cannot safely allow a 9k away following. I know the Met have a lot of influence over the situation but if this is not a new competition rule; it is one that has been in place for donkey’s years. Surely one of the criteria for the design must have been, “where do we put away fans for cup games when we have to give x% of the total support?”. Logically once you decide that, you then build into the equation the segregation issue?

    Its a flaw in design if it cannot be accommodated safely. However, the biggest issue is why there has been no resolution before now; the draw was made weeks ago so surely they could have sat down (with the FL / FLA / Met) and got it worked out and pinned the blame at someone else’s door. As it stands, the club look to have behaved appallingly.

    I’m not sure I agree about limiting allocations to a like for like number; surely that penalises the opposing fans because Arsenal have a spiffing new ground with the second largest capacity in the country?

    You are right about 4k home fans missing out. They will probably miss out anyway because I can’t see that the Met will allow Tottenham to occupy seats below or above home fans – it is as you say a ‘high risk’ game so I suspect that the capacity may well be 56k if Tottenham get 5k tickets rather than 60k.

  4. I don’t know that AFC have necessarily behaved badly here.

    The penalities for flouting the rules viz police consultation etc are huge, and in a new facility the Arsenal Management team are treading on egg-shells, desparately trying to ensure that they don’t transgress and yet also desperate for the facility to generate revenue. Levy knows this in spades and will not miss an opportunity to create mayhem and most importantly to smear AFC.(motive, opportunity, means etc). As Arsenal fans surely we have to try not to do his dirty work for him, most of the press and media will do that. Actually watching the press and media reaction to this could be quite revealing.

  5. Levy should have kept quiet and just played the rules. As I say in the piece, he had the moral high ground until they decided to behave like kids and limit tickets; once that happened he opened his mouth and wanted to crap over all supporters by trying to pressurise Arsenal into charging higher prices, his true colours of the bottom line showed straight through.

    Just out of curiousity, this must have formed part of the Licence Approval with the FLA. So why is it an issue?

    Arsenal have let themselves down by allowing this to be an issue. It is a spiffing new stadium, the move to which they managed reasonably painlessly. However, I still think that this must have been addressed during the design process so why is it an issue now, two weeks before the game.

  6. If Spurs fans caused damage to the stadium during their last visit I think the club are within their rights to question giving 9,000 seats to Spurs fans keen to cause damage and who cannot be adequately stewarded indeed there is a case for banning them for future games until they respect other peoples property.

    I have no time for Levy ever since he accused Arsenal of poisoning his football team and corruption by influencing the premiership for not allowing them a replay. He has never apologised or withdrawn his accusations. He has created the poison around this fixture.

  7. Just thought I’d point out that whatever the ticket allocation given to Tottenham is for the second leg, Arsenal seriously need to reconsider how the supporters near the away end leave the stadium.

    I was at the Arsenal v Tottenham league game and was appalled at what I witnessed. I was sitting in Block 117 above the away fans. Come the final whistle, we all headed out, only to be ushered out across the Clock End bridge with all the Tottenham supporters. We weren’t allowed to go left towards the North Bank bridge or right towards the Armoury shop around the stadium, we had to go over the bridge with them. There was police at the end of the bridge but i just feel that on a night game when people may well have been able to consume more alcohol and a game when only one team goes through, this could be a receipe for disaster.

  8. Hi YW,

    I know you are upset about this one and I don’t necessarily disagree with your points.

    The problem with this situation is that the police and FLA etc, etc demand that conditions are tested thoroughly. For this reason numbers were restricted for the first two or three matches. In terms of segregation of fans, the ‘normal’ arrangements i.e. 5000 away fans have been tested and passed with flying colours. However there has not been previously been an opportunity to test the arrangements for 9000 fans. Unfortunately the first opportunity to do this is against the other lot i.e. the riskiest situation of all. Not surprisingly the authorities are concerned and have passed on their concerns to AFC.

    Of course the stadium and match day arrangements put in place by AFC will be fine, but how are they supposed to ‘test’ this except in a real live situation. If this had been Everton or Aston Villa or even Bolton or any number of ‘low risk’ teams I am sure there would have been no problem.

    On the relative numbers rather than percentage of away fans, I think it is a shame that Arsenal fans are building the new stadium by buying tickets, shirts etc and are then denied entrance because the opposition who have had nothing whatsoever to do with financing the facility are allowed to bring along 4000 more fans (at reduced prices) than are allowed at their place in the equivalent match.

  9. Frank – Agree with you but if they are concerned about getting the away fans in and out of the Stadium then surely they have to have them totally segregated from the home fans. I think there will be considerable disgruntlement if there are 4000 empty seats above the Tottenham fans. Yours truly will be totally hacked off because the day I am having probably means I’d be one of the 4000!

    I am interested in how this will be tested two or three times before being accepted. Cup Draws are supposedly free and fair, aside from seedings. Looking at this dispassionately, i.e. taking Tottenham out of the equation, there are few teams that would sell out an allocation of 9000 seats at The Emirates in a season. Of those that could, all of the London teams, Manchester United and Liverpool probably fall into the high risk category. Therefore they have to be excluded from the test scenario.

    That being the case, we are reliant on the Cup Draws to be able to test it, provided that the opposition are not classified as high risk. Which, in theory, could several years before the testing is done given that the likelihood is that the high risk teams will progress the furthest.

  10. Hi YW,

    Have you got a drink in your hand yet? Sounds like you need one. The point is AFC are not alowed to make the decision, it is up to the ‘authorities’. For an increased allocation for away fans, they probably only need to demonstrate that it works once…Bolton would have done.(the two or three times was for the first few matches in the stadium leading up to full capacity). The problem with Tottenham being the first is that they have a vested interest in it not working…and of course making a big issue out of it all. To add fuel to the ‘authorities’ case ,the Tottenham fans have behaved abominably in recent encounters and this time there would be a lot more of em.

    Give AFC a break, YW, this is not down to them, it is just about the red tape associated with opening a new stadium. I wouldn’t mind betting that Wembley will not be allowed to operate at full capacity for the first few games.

    A million good lucks in getting a ticket for the game.

  11. Frank

    Just the old Socialist in me coming out – equal opportunities for all, etc. I think you may have guessed I am not impressed by this – its just a cock-up at a senior level to allow it to get this close to the game and not be a problem. They are not the only party at fault here but it is a simple thing to have resolved. Let Tottenham take the flak; perhaps a shake-up in the PR team would help – “We’re in this position because of x. We explained it to Tottenham and they said y. By the way, did you know that they want us to charge full price…”. Problem not solved but PR won.

    With Wembley, I read somewhere that they are having two or three rehearsals before the stadium even stages an event – football or otherwise – to ensure that this problem is not an issue. And lets face it, that has been a monumental cock-up from start to finish.

    I think I’d better change tomorrow’s blog because if you think I had a downer on them today, God Alone knows what you would think of tomorrows…

  12. Tomorrow’s sounds interesting, maybe you should keep it. On a positive note I see that Seb and Fabrice are beating Newcastle 5-1 at St James Park. Seb’s going but Fabrice is making the right noises about fighting for an Arsenal place. btw did you know that 17th Jan is officially the most miserable day of the year…it can only get better from now on.


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